From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 04:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Lars Ingebrigtsen X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.160844001714407 (code B ref -1); Sun, 20 Dec 2020 04:54:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2020 04:53:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqiv-0003kJ-Ej for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:37 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqis-0003kA-Kh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqis-0004CX-BK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:34 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:37507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqiq-0004F0-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1608440000; bh=lBbsSglXBm423eaCPUYj9ydX7lCKXosZ3VPw5D1ialE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date; b=srPB4kDJzGKP/oLOiYKcD2b/Vw8tS+FjANI6kpD965HMBXGBfg1SZe0M86IHJetOj +WRybIqy4oYEp0A3R2XIcOvlaumsL/1XJgSodvkMNMLV8hCtJqSVcLVqq1KsPSlbXk brzTXuNpcRG6+U0HlNftGDrLYRHMvwMoMGpGuBIA= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.99.46]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MVXnr-1ka1TM3S8t-00Z1nn; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 05:53:19 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 05:53:18 +0100 Message-ID: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:u3p7L7aOtBR9hycYr6nOz3tH87L8H2i1sAUOmlqp9CboNtnGi/j JiFNjhLzeOFeNrxp3WKXP5qTN2h5hG+Kfd1oj8lUsA0LXgGdkNArQVQ+DLqbJ7H8qNe3fO9 nA+tTm415sQKQNcE72pEyoogfCPhblza8w0InpFrlo+18lHuGZNq54+gsL0DOjD+deorheM xOn26axKJ2iCwhlpY3F6g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:AHrDjZ4XljA=:LjA0nu/MDMXvGd96pcNVeb CBIKA4rf6n5sOMVdzmcusByeOO+dNXiwc+/WPaWBNiqRY/OXi+eI5AFzxWElo1IV378tbSLXt gPeTfZrwOG+fuswJWJGWCh2XxBXoRVZPe7vj8SzvFRwCeV3i/7gq0r14eTG4ZwjHEGBCQLb5x 0Rnp+TWAcUSfOzU0G2KQj1rX0cbo5LiPIHGchAM+ehbBfRiH3UwUuwHDXozJQ2j2wr9sgluBj oSCOx4tOtF3/GQZTn6TtwjMCyFfwBAjp3L2HyFKRnOj/v8GKyMBJuaPAVYM6zQ5odoHSxq0g3 I3X3XK3dnwqlPtrM4SIrbjPreIBbAWILsJdrwiFTe1fk8YSFH++nXLTJI7XJKeOOFb0u+gplW YdnVOvVgPKBs9+FWhnnt1+J4ojNdJFiMcB4X26MgzwjuvFWdoAEVySwElcKCelLUXPnXuzoVO 2IbSkM1CyPvCtogyzv5A/qLN0AHZt3+IAc6Atw2aVjnAuXO0tv0UA7kCnGwhHddbKZ5jpdIw3 KsoTNfb/UTXXLGJA6J0Gh556/hIUETkgbWupttuMcuzeHF8eHEp4piFU1pYJbbE0EQbhS5Fse FZyRgyPODYNzw8yVEF/81t9vIu6rFZsO/Z60DQ+3dMdjrniEa7/wupDux9Zjosyr736hFf11m pAOfvqOh1JSCVixQG//mbb5NbzXKl+k11+DKQOYx16JaDZIX3a71TACz4IjFNPQA+qddiMl6r 9rIREiKnsfItz1P/I6VlJc5HziSWLUjm85O/ee1DTULDaEjC6WxSQt41r59L3711lhlxoXtoE kTDQQwUcQAGMdkeFjN7HZM8exRS6D4wpC4A+S5z4vIkzqrnYntp/QLje/g4Sku658p8k4CGE7 jaGq7bzIjAlvFjARbgeUNB8vexLOlBifV8eVtIdDA= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.3; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi, sorry if I had already reported this and a fix is on the way. Or had it been fixed and has reappeared, or even my fault this time? I'm doing something like (debbugs-gnu-search "debbugs" '((subject . "debbugs")) nil nil nil) and when I hit RET over a bug's line I get this error: | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p nil) | gnus-summary-goto-subject(0) | gnus-summary-last-subject() | gnus-summary-highlight-line() | gnus-summary-insert-line([0 "" "" "05 Apr 2001 23:33:09 +0400" "" "" 0 0 "" nil] 0 nil t 90 t nil "" nil 1) | gnus-update-summary-mark-positions() | gnus-summary-read-group-1("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" t t nil nil nil) | gnus-summary-read-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" t t nil nil nil nil) | gnus-group-read-group(t t "nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" nil) | gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" (nndoc "/tmp/gnus-temp-group-lGIifE" (nndoc-article-type mbox)) nil (# . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-bug-group((36903) "https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=%s;m..." (# . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group((36903) (# . #)) | debbugs-gnu-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus(36903 ((cache_time . 1608439370.59222) (last_modified . 1573129444) (done . "Eric Abrahamsen ") (summary) (forwarded) (source . "unknown") (log_modified . 1573129444) (blockedby) (found_versions "27.0.50") (fixed_versions) (subject . "27.0.50; gnus registry vs. debbugs") (archived . t) (affects) (package "emacs") (location . "archive") (originator . "Michael Heerdegen ") (date . 1564816382) (severity . "normal") (owner) (keywords) (fixed) (found (item (key . "27.0.50") (value))) (bug_num . 36903) (fixed_date) (id . 36903) (tags) (unarchived) (msgid . "<87pnlmen9q.fsf@web.de>") (pending . "done") (blocks) (found_date) (mergedwith)) nil) | debbugs-gnu-select-report() | funcall-interactively(debbugs-gnu-select-report) | call-interactively(debbugs-gnu-select-report nil nil) | command-execute(debbugs-gnu-select-report) Annoying. When I had started Gnus before, this doesn't happen. TIA, Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.16085265864660 (code B ref 45330); Mon, 21 Dec 2020 04:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2020 04:56:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45956 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krDFC-0001D6-Dt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 23:56:26 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37076) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krDFA-0001Cu-Tw for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 23:56:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=P5YBq6ieutUgPNFaintBl9/aGWrEsLZd6oFFiv+uipQ=; b=W3Is5EGMwtQKkegHIR1YgP8mWq MJSflofttZrt64IY75QywopGgpjQJeC/FBCc1xoWlLkEoQBacXZ2WSvxrgG/Y/CMrYJxOfrY67RzS 3QB+U1IRP49BSvQxbZGzMSqa08vrRwRTBik7UIPufkQJdRAn0AGukYuikUAHsRjaccdc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1krDF2-0001E3-D1; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:56:18 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> X-Now-Playing: Steven Brown's _Music for Film & Theatre (2)_: "The Flight" Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:56:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 20 Dec 2020 05:53:18 +0100") Message-ID: <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: > sorry if I had already reported this and a fix is on the way. Or had it > been fixed and has reappeared, or even my fault this time? > > I'm doing something like > > (debbugs-gnu-search "debbugs" '( [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: > sorry if I had already reported this and a fix is on the way. Or had it > been fixed and has reappeared, or even my fault this time? > > I'm doing something like > > (debbugs-gnu-search "debbugs" '((subject . "debbugs")) nil nil nil) > > and when I hit RET over a bug's line I get this error: > > | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p nil) > | gnus-summary-goto-subject(0) > | gnus-summary-last-subject() > | gnus-summary-highlight-line() > | gnus-summary-insert-line([0 "" "" "05 Apr 2001 23:33:09 +0400" "" > | "" 0 0 "" nil] 0 nil t 90 t nil "" nil 1) > | gnus-update-summary-mark-positions() I think this should be fixed on the trunk now -- can you check? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 07:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.160853464826902 (code B ref 45330); Mon, 21 Dec 2020 07:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2020 07:10:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46053 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krFLE-0006zp-1a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 02:10:48 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:59437) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krFLB-0006zR-NT for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 02:10:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1608534629; bh=8ZRxbX6P7tkyMWuDVk6tduq46EGkH3XUHDi23yIwkj0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=IH9E4eqYMzD6x+5hjE/a28hnaexTfCM3OTDRmxdSX8/QGyioMXNyKHu1uA1gzFx/3 dU5oeybuzr/UmVOUMNJnA9Wfmne+orvCepsUc19GW70DLmEAJL93+1I3SJn/sQlf2N aFBmmlrSj/ZX8NTWja5HhK2aYQwr+0mjd4W1AUPg= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.99.46]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N45xt-1js1tk0s09-00zmCa; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:10:29 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:10:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 21 Dec 2020 05:56:15 +0100") Message-ID: <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Pl0PU4D2L7K8rx+SAxB3C6Nba7TZeLRLQqxxM9rO9XzCti5kYJh e5Ia2OdrNSqr5mJg0A+neTQEm12eoHcErrj/vuv4hflkRRvzG8n4xjhcgxSxZRHxNWw6s2I /6sp1idSOcYSVoUjfoFvkq96FUrTGa51Or4Hv0qVgjdgGBCGBdqtXxPgNsrRFWcoqif2QfL yUKNmHGcMLco99ey2b60g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:BzQd1rcCZ4o=:jnJL7zHUPWpCwBeEQr8ItX WbVacsSkA+pNiU8rlv0+zN7ZjWE7LI1GMkgU+nTVSEDGrjOuhipCKqBrMEqfmHC0S14VG9wcL TqafE9o94wcKfzlhsLZl8cNImoyEl7X5p7cztnhY0cdcb9R5kDftbpwufDkHsrC0BWnQfkWwt 0gVP/g97j4JVeaDqcr2S/WUY67K1gkxI07gxnNagr74v0r/DtTg3q9rxX+Vn9e2HF6TClLf66 yL7ZMBGcxF4PWQ8tH+MOYd+C+wA1yB17hCfR4rZeqfc+JTg0L83kPirwY8sfX7b2Pw+Thlom4 IqvM0xU2uYp2hiysh3bHNFMAgwjRdNMghow7DxRnVQuOaQfeRl/U1MiQ8dIA+XeJQliQhDzF8 eou+hE8XliVC0yij+3O+t5ModhjjDFBxH0Tf3fempEFJRKctleyzSOcOxbmZje377Elu54m/K Ok0VDzFnxT+/r00GE6LaRrXipWQZpxLymXk+KERDG25CcxMX2Ovj1Su83VSy33XGVkKXWoX52 GkD+VfIIUZf7t5KgCLoje3BEpQyKdC9XT0sCPafUBizxc5fMyOqIkvIFMpwf4Dl1khnkyxcFu tHHZrk8ymz4ZscfsTMQYy4tLz745N7GfEZoM/r2I4KoQ2ah8fMMRGnqRuJH6zOEQgzzSfOpGw DfTsImJLChh16zxCwd2VQ77KOnPjmCOnco/NelX1I0OaVCf6fkZt8zMmkmyOjjfKwHUczmz4h IPK72pZrL3UZyUgdsDaJrar2pJ6ohHm4pv9JDBsb4pEjTCEEiEVyl2hOhQry10f+I8LjfQtHC xMnQviARVdy7TURosI/li/qM7YELD520pQHuF3Hmr+B6nAAlROwzjCTreXrLuSpWOgb6xFOY8 dniN51Pn+pIT3BdE4UECvx/ygV5K136BC/HjwubkE= X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I think this should be fixed on the trunk now -- can you check? Ok, thanks. Yes, good, though, now I get (deja vu again): | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (cl-no-applicable-method registry-lookup ni= l ("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>")) | signal(cl-no-applicable-method (registry-lookup nil ("<84k479sz16.fsf@a= ol.com>"))) | cl-no-applicable-method(#s(cl--generic registry-lookup ((1 #s(cl--gener= ic-generalizer cl--generic-t-generalizer 0 #[385 "\300\207" [nil] 3 "\n\n(f= n NAME &rest _)"] #[385 "\300\207" [(t)] 3 "\n\n(fn TAG &rest _)"])) (0 #s(= cl--generic-generalizer eieio--generic-generalizer 50 cl--generic-struct-ta= g #[385 "\1\301N\302\1!\10>\205\21\0\303\304\305\3!\"\207" [cl-struct-eieio= --class-tags cl--class type-of mapcar eieio--class-name eieio--class-preced= ence-list] 7 "\n\n(fn TAG &rest _)"]) #s(cl--generic-generalizer cl--generi= c-t-generalizer 0 #[385 "\300\207" [nil] 3 "\n\n(fn NAME &rest _)"] #[385 "= \300\207" [(t)] 3 "\n\n(fn TAG &rest _)"]))) (#s(cl--generic-method (regist= ry-db t) nil nil #[(db keys) "\303\10\301\"\31\304\305\306\307\n\"\")\207" = [db data keys eieio-oref delq nil mapcar #[(k) "\302\10\11\"\205\15\0\10\30= 2\10\11\"D\207" [k data gethash] 4]] 5 "Search for KEYS in the registry-db = DB.\nReturns an alist of the key followed by the entry in a list, not a con= s cell."])) nil) nil ("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>")) | apply(cl-no-applicable-method #s(cl--generic registry-lookup ((1 #s(cl-= -generic-generalizer cl--generic-t-generalizer 0 #[385 "\300\207" [nil] 3 "= \n\n(fn NAME &rest _)"] #[385 "\300\207" [(t)] 3 "\n\n(fn TAG &rest _)"])) = (0 #s(cl--generic-generalizer eieio--generic-generalizer 50 cl--generic-str= uct-tag #[385 "\1\301N\302\1!\10>\205\21\0\303\304\305\3!\"\207" [cl-struct= -eieio--class-tags cl--class type-of mapcar eieio--class-name eieio--class-= precedence-list] 7 "\n\n(fn TAG &rest _)"]) #s(cl--generic-generalizer cl--= generic-t-generalizer 0 #[385 "\300\207" [nil] 3 "\n\n(fn NAME &rest _)"] #= [385 "\300\207" [(t)] 3 "\n\n(fn TAG &rest _)"]))) (#s(cl--generic-method (= registry-db t) nil nil #[(db keys) "\303\10\301\"\31\304\305\306\307\n\"\")= \207" [db data keys eieio-oref delq nil mapcar #[(k) "\302\10\11\"\205\15\0= \10\302\10\11\"D\207" [k data gethash] 4]] 5 "Search for KEYS in the regist= ry-db DB.\nReturns an alist of the key followed by the entry in a list, not= a cons cell."])) nil) (nil ("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>"))) | #f(compiled-function (&rest args) #)(nil ("= <84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>")) | apply(#f(compiled-function (&rest args) #) = nil ("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>")) | registry-lookup(nil ("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>")) | gnus-registry-get-or-make-entry("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>" nil) | gnus-registry-get-id-key("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>" mark) | gnus-user-format-function-M([2 "bug#10000: 24.0.91; Gnus gnus-get-funct= ion error" "nyc4bos@aol.com" #("Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:25:09 -0500" 0 1 (gnus-= time (20154 165))) "<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>" nil -1 119 nil ((To . "10000@= debbugs.gnu.org"))]) | (format "%c%c%s%s%2s%c%9s %s" gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied (gnus-us= er-format-function-S gnus-tmp-header) (gnus-user-format-function-g gnus-tmp= -header) (gnus-user-format-function-M gnus-tmp-header) gnus-tmp-score-char = (gnus-user-date (mail-header-date gnus-tmp-header)) gnus-tmp-indentation) | (insert (format "%c%c%s%s%2s%c%9s %s" gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-replied = (gnus-user-format-function-S gnus-tmp-header) (gnus-user-format-function-g = gnus-tmp-header) (gnus-user-format-function-M gnus-tmp-header) gnus-tmp-sco= re-char (gnus-user-date (mail-header-date gnus-tmp-header)) gnus-tmp-indent= ation)) | (progn (insert (format "%c%c%s%s%2s%c%9s %s" gnus-tmp-unread gnus-tmp-r= eplied (gnus-user-format-function-S gnus-tmp-header) (gnus-user-format-func= tion-g gnus-tmp-header) (gnus-user-format-function-M gnus-tmp-header) gnus-= tmp-score-char (gnus-user-date (mail-header-date gnus-tmp-header)) gnus-tmp= -indentation)) (put-text-property (point) (progn (insert (format "%-23s" (l= et* ((val ...) (need ...)) (if (> need 0) (concat nil val ...) val)))) (poi= nt)) 'mouse-face gnus-mouse-face) (insert " ") (add-text-properties (poin= t) (progn (insert gnus-tmp-subject-or-nil) (point)) (cons 'face (cons (list= 'font-lock-variable-name-face 'default) '(gnus-face t)))) (insert "\n")) | eval((progn (insert (format "%c%c%s%s%2s%c%9s %s" gnus-tmp-unread gnus-= tmp-replied (gnus-user-format-function-S gnus-tmp-header) (gnus-user-format= -function-g gnus-tmp-header) (gnus-user-format-function-M gnus-tmp-header) = gnus-tmp-score-char (gnus-user-date (mail-header-date gnus-tmp-header)) gnu= s-tmp-indentation)) (put-text-property (point) (progn (insert (format "%-23= s" (let* (... ...) (if ... ... val)))) (point)) 'mouse-face gnus-mouse-face= ) (insert " ") (add-text-properties (point) (progn (insert gnus-tmp-subje= ct-or-nil) (point)) (cons 'face (cons (list 'font-lock-variable-name-face '= default) '(gnus-face t)))) (insert "\n"))) | gnus-summary-prepare-threads((([2 "bug#10000: 24.0.91; Gnus gnus-get-fu= nction error" "nyc4bos@aol.com" #("Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:25:09 -0500" 0 1 (gn= us-time (20154 165))) "<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>" nil -1 119 nil ((To . "100= 00@debbugs.gnu.org"))] ([3 "bug#10000: 24.0.91; Gnus gnus-get-function erro= r" "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen " "Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:34:39 +0= 100" "" "<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>" -1 21 n= il ((Cc . "10000@debbugs.gnu.org") (To . "nyc4bos@aol.com"))])) ([4 "contro= l message for bug #10000" "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen " #("Sat= , 07 Jan 2012 00:34:43 +0100" 0 1 (gnus-time (20231 34067))) "" nil -1 6 nil ((To . "control@debbugs.gnu.org, 10000@d= ebbugs.gnu.org"))]) ([1 "Status: 24.0.91; Gnus gnus-get-function error" "bu= g#10000 <10000@debbugs.gnu.org>" #("Mon, 21 Dec 2020 07:03:37 +0000" 0 1 (g= nus-time (24544 18633))) "fake+none+nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000+1" nil -1 9 n= il ((To . "bug#10000 <10000@debbugs.gnu.org>"))]))) | gnus-summary-prepare() | gnus-summary-read-group-1("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" t t nil nil nil) | gnus-summary-read-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" t t nil nil nil nil) | gnus-group-read-group(t t "nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" nil) | gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" (nndoc "/tm= p/gnus-temp-group-hZ7CcZ" (nndoc-article-type mbox)) nil (# = . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-bug-group((10000) "https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugr= eport.cgi?bug=3D%s;m..." (# . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group((10000) (# . #)) | debbugs-gnu-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus(10000 ((cache_time . 1608534206.83= 31993) (msgid . "<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>") (package "emacs" "gnus") (forwa= rded) (owner) (tags "notabug") (found_versions "24.0.91") (fixed_date) (fix= ed_versions) (mergedwith) (last_modified . 1328358242) (done . "Lars Magne = Ingebrigtsen ") (found_date) (affects) (location . "archive= ") (originator . "nyc4bos@aol.com") (found (item (key . "24.0.91") (value))= ) (source . "unknown") (keywords "notabug") (subject . "24.0.91; Gnus gnus-= get-function error") (bug_num . 10000) (pending . "done") (id . 10000) (blo= cks) (summary) (log_modified . 1328358242) (fixed) (severity . "minor") (un= archived) (date . 1320812762) (archived . t) (blockedby)) nil) | debbugs-gnu-select-report() I have #+begin_src emacs-lisp (defalias 'gnus-user-format-function-M 'gnus-registry-article-marks-to-chars) #+end_src and am using it in `gnus-summary-line-format'. Can you reproduce that problem? Thanks, Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.160856716122316 (code B ref 45330); Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2020 16:12:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48096 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krNnd-0005ns-AZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:12:41 -0500 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:60942 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krNnb-0005nd-Oe for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:12:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D2E2BFA0F1; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:12:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1608567153; bh=zJ8SWu/zUHWv9nQlOmhWZIYVUMJrijg2CP97P2PIy1w=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=oSflCnvH5CWK5AIOiTdtv74PYK4sNtfxE5Fq3oTJ0ozSbsoOVy9huNBrX64zTrhzu iEWLtxnOH/3HOyEq0DfkG+waYdC7hbU6kNDQh49eQ/JtsmbcK/gzyDbFXvlSYLpQN5 4GwYYs580u3pB+3gqKPTOasOEBWLoifm8W8KTj6A= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:12:31 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:10:27 +0100") Message-ID: <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> I think this should be fixed on the trunk now -- can you check? > > Ok, thanks. Yes, good, though, now I get (deja vu again): > > | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (cl-no-applicable-method > | registry-lookup nil ("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>")) Yes, we've been here before, in bug 36903, and commit a81223aeaa... From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 16:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.160865540614868 (code B ref 45330); Tue, 22 Dec 2020 16:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2020 16:43:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50828 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krkkv-0003rj-Dp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2020 11:43:26 -0500 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:60806 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krkkt-0003rX-Dq for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Dec 2020 11:43:24 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D7EAEFA0EC; Tue, 22 Dec 2020 16:43:16 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1608655397; bh=On8LagrZT/3TjpThZnb1XQ1PY0zzf/Lo2zcDsfuLbuM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Lf1BuHYBTyWcjyZ004YRhFRfJ+6QiyZfbV4K/wnOvVyEOuPEp5Hu2Ws50XSMQIlRK ZBSXIPpGdE9sIVLLppREeQyFTcP3RGrpKrYWf5rXDqFxiF9+ySzaqLr7gEqguGW8lA 52mlcpFIgySBy3KlhxIdhBehI47uiURVs8akQodQ= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 08:43:15 -0800 In-Reply-To: <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 21 Dec 2020 08:12:31 -0800") Message-ID: <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 12/21/20 08:12 AM, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> >>> I think this should be fixed on the trunk now -- can you check? >> >> Ok, thanks. Yes, good, though, now I get (deja vu again): >> >> | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (cl-no-applicable-method >> | registry-lookup nil ("<84k479sz16.fsf@aol.com>")) > > Yes, we've been here before, in bug 36903, and commit a81223aeaa... Oh hang on, it looks like that took me several tries to get right, in a81223aeaa, 87b7c06958, a34216351f, and then finally ae76ce57cf, in which it looks like I was confident that checking `gnus-registry-enabled' was sufficient to ensure that the registry was actually an object. Give me a second to figure out why that's not true. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 05:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.160870103130935 (code B ref 45330); Wed, 23 Dec 2020 05:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2020 05:23:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51504 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krwco-00082t-O8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 00:23:50 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:47153) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krwci-00082T-Uk for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 00:23:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1608701008; bh=5uf5xD+YcQXHgFhggrCkGoVhnVmi0pFkQpB0eMBvre8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=N+DqItpnocJvuaUsVMGGxLHNwE0aQdAvrt4qC3MzgglSxe1fsBiMMpcQLiEPhRAXX nUCLoSGluU7RHR3Mcm1om8Ix9MvsphTppC7p8t16ZfpmxU9YKKR08liwXVCrB/zYue ech0kWONHA1O1pKjDfboLlRQ3HM4MfOmTgNjF4J8= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.99.46]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M2Mcy-1k22O31BJ6-00s6OQ; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 06:23:27 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 06:23:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Tue, 22 Dec 2020 08:43:15 -0800") Message-ID: <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:YXTNcSrRe1aFj77O5fxWyxbW5uBzuLNXGc8XUpbPMhevOKgPAkd IJmHVyBPZ2AT4rHCGkdTXB23tN/ArCNaS8fgmCf6sP74yIhhHS75viX2sGAoKsVArab4qHV h/T2I7Io/xe4MBe3eMpP1s8eMHCk/EAjIksqYJZScbKWgJmkYa627zWcPka1e0DQoesXrkp aky1d2yOYWQpQicSaiJ6Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:2acChQ1TGJI=:TzeJWkDP+2LQN/5QNZe2Lg oP4IWRA2pMagmPWzX+6skZikT2R7hD/zlpefbRxJXXQQurHobjNAUnZ3kDpgGC29kyH2Pmyom kYKRZ09T7zjEc/ZKFetI75kqiG+kKe2OcxA59ML+WVj0aasq+qIpnvV08EwMmVOo/C5FGAYZs 136X8Arccn+jA14wf11N0AqYSqlfRL8opCmvArE9b4IPiQjJ+UW5JSiOoQL1OB5b51mBEbwP9 jf8g00+DNaAwlyRHn4aY/lolh9fl/NyrcidEsREwHeQvq3QuL1Nn6gZm6K+j7jLetzSDhweBH 63PVemHnhJHf5BFRTNu0KCaWY6ab8c2GaxBdf3AQnUX4mD5kyAPxaPa0gevtI9tyes01/oGj0 C5qjzIPhLgn0M7qYOB0/IvlXGsZG8gBUlr6Ztgc7UlWrmtmCdoUXUpj3gymwnyQ/zeSkcJPOE 1pxhABy+715th6iF0gnnJmNXik0OWrZReI24KcgWQswfaQk5pTN2eHupeWzGi3aInSJdUIUMf Quv9sp8oPmziInR3SUAF1flu0yqQxyas+Sx/2NFzaTB7vqLN6iCmnpbvmSmQmAJaN4Jta+vva 4TlbGzcjNrux7g70LV6mBQY3vyZIQu3TRXud0bSahy1o0bLl37n7jFU/09/nLcYotgaOZX6ih YwD6qB4X57B5ZukCqybWa+rEpp5N6vjI6tZdNY+dJEVF09Zyw9596oEGusQo5FJ7bEM0FdQ43 jstoqp6tAjlLrhYnVtg7QoglKCOvHV+rpfkoRf4dTvBapc+D/SSqWapprdofjgkxHfnQyHguB nCIqSZ0hC+3DCkhU6CBezvIE/PD0iVoWuRz8nY4dzqKGKsyh1goE5B9l4WCgXyPFcOuKmAa1I qbHlT5WEEgRqV9MdB6AW48OZe7d75bJqxl0vbYk2k= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Oh hang on, it looks like that took me several tries to get right, > in a81223aeaa, 87b7c06958, a34216351f, and then finally ae76ce57cf, Wow... > in which it looks like I was confident that checking > `gnus-registry-enabled' was sufficient to ensure that the registry was > actually an object. Give me a second to figure out why that's not > true. Ok, please keep me informed :-) TIA, Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.160874693712900 (code B ref 45330); Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2020 18:08:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54118 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZF-0003M0-D5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:08:57 -0500 Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:36526 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ks8ZD-0003Lm-6o for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:08:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 08408FDF48; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:08:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1608746929; bh=3aWZjs6XwmlTgyZQj1BTr1ASCC10AuzUDEu46VR3ipo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=QEB3EypkDaZwnwJSiVJgX2ZsSK8e89UIUDZX/RpVN4Op0GOOXZ0JkX+kIEYfrxJed T9RvFmR6ABpQdjAmylJRQ1Cn6upT+1iRARr5QBZ4y/4Hc8mhpYUAb0YIpFMfvlX6Ic Ya5V3pZGuKOQOTraQUyrISJu2Aum7Lc1Gr+L7uqw= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:08:47 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Wed, 23 Dec 2020 06:23:25 +0100") Message-ID: <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 12/23/20 06:23 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Oh hang on, it looks like that took me several tries to get right, >> in a81223aeaa, 87b7c06958, a34216351f, and then finally ae76ce57cf, > > Wow... It was embarrassing. >> in which it looks like I was confident that checking >> `gnus-registry-enabled' was sufficient to ensure that the registry was >> actually an object. Give me a second to figure out why that's not >> true. > > Ok, please keep me informed :-) So it's pretty clear: `gnus-registry-initialize' in effect looks like this: (defun gnus-registry-initialize () (gnus-registry-install-hooks) -> (setq gnus-registry-enabled t) (if (gnus-alive-p) (gnus-registry-load) (add-hook 'gnus-read-newsrc-el-hook #'gnus-registry-load))) So in your case `gnus-registry-enabled' is set to t, but then `gnus-registry-load' is never called (because Gnus is neither alive, nor loaded later). I suppose it's still reasonable to set `gnus-registry-enabled' in this way -- the registry is, in fact, "enabled", it simply hasn't gotten loaded (the naming problem again!). Perhaps the formatting functions should go back to the earlier, more explicit check of `eieio-object-p'. Bleagh. Eric From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2021 23:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.163865990417696 (code B ref 45330); Sat, 04 Dec 2021 23:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2021 23:18:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55675 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mteIK-0004b5-3k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 18:18:24 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mteII-0004an-9n for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 18:18:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RrjrgV+0nEsWBdJMC1zkOsqOjQ5bV8uqFHPoknTJ4X8=; b=oFwUmXhou/XKlGkYWFtkCkdU33 702H1ecSpaM39mr//VXfpIvFAQjXZrETmsZ146dZqFqvLiURX3+sxsvDx3xgpcPZ1ClAu72x/D4/b +0TSqH/dxLzC/ufJc46XdCBLUfOOfPtoj+FvlEoo5kTC0t9rABreNHhueK58nbtgM9OU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mteI8-0001Qa-Jz; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:18:07 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Hejira_: "Coyote" Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:18:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:08:47 -0800") Message-ID: <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I suppose it's still reasonable to set `gnus-registry-enabled' in this > way -- the registry is, in fact, "enabled", it simply hasn't gotten > loaded (the naming problem again!). Perhaps the formatt [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I suppose it's still reasonable to set `gnus-registry-enabled' in this > way -- the registry is, in fact, "enabled", it simply hasn't gotten > loaded (the naming problem again!). Perhaps the formatting functions > should go back to the earlier, more explicit check of `eieio-object-p'. 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Content preview: tags 45330 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 45330 + moreinfo quit From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.16386638382592 (code B ref 45330); Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:24:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2021 00:23:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55722 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mtfJu-0000fk-Br for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 19:23:58 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:51087) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mtfJs-0000fU-5i for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2021 19:23:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1638663820; bh=mh5E6PEVDmisfHd+eFNcb0ZdLdxT3RRDjWQUuF7cSPM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=E/VP/smpaGggdkWt5e9IfNR8iuq0uiONpz8V5+UWfPgVhtSkgulX5O/PCJsX07sxB SC8ImDZ9HXv/1J2yXPFbvz8e8fAAVU/HnWuk0GBRYOcrBCiDnLxgt9+m8GmfOVQVJT V86P6vgKDLD9c1r4NUXZeYHKJfxnNN20cq5c5xmM= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.225.87]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MDe2F-1mkcVX2duB-00AyIO; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 01:23:40 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 01:23:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:18:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:8dS491h06P/61lv7Am2elcTX+ZKJHqykSvGs1fC6kUEZ2fUw11r poikWoqyJ/dXCuLl2aWpytPyBCq/jUa+K/CXtDd8XMmopE2Le0Zg5aGAqr/czaRlypjPu5u r8xxkCaNyfariInNS0yfmHUf8yNhpCK1u++uANjKKlAJEvfZxj7oIaG3vFVtb89TOwhZ1IO kTUA6iUpI/qBGsYcORJmw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:62roIOJrBio=:GA6VvfgTPc9u6HrXNGbKnU Q5oSb/ANzBgIoDv5TKFLvqoq+tyi4HpQnORhXVL/e95IoiJylLdSdKlgVDjCUAbbSz0keyloI 7EcB3Wxe3NphNMmaMjbtOEZ2LLDAUubQHXOLSk51H8Ke7Hy8w5brDbn3z96zj49tLOUpKsm8t S3J8TEBpts0OibwM8xye2YWcFfpptfr7s2Y3nI8k+3lOx2uKa6fNZ1f+zJ8b0DhIJDd2M8lJH TI2wDdI5JZyexn9cw6U5jwmKPsoNemi38lYqHxGS2BWznhd2oFSDbUyW8t+KS0Amg7yL7pOmq wkKIY1fdG9mgxEitJMRD9TlN5nxSteKmjQ46Sgmw1n0lNXmDFSWd0KH3dzGrf4BH/E7zuupoQ KMoipE9AcsWvCXOW6KMhcdCWzjrWm4CzWzBk+D/5wziszEHprM44OPBaDj5whbHcVzk71Se5E qYZ8my/WmqPC0H/PeEWUBLJYTOsOszaZYq56oNKSf58SirLDIYkCLtPDq0aFkDHFXU2LhtCMr 529Y+Ne/EjHq1nE7k1bQZ9Ro6SOAp6X57T1NqA0DVzbMhxOzW8rRvQTJIkUbMjNLmBf1/TV10 b9TyqLhCSk0oBNevaDvmwkVuGNX4zjEuZ9h1DzxmCxaiL8XtKneyh1/FYulkMnVjW0WFCdHjq Cp2tYv4BE5MsQIycqrI7PsYkVYiTpYKE3/CxwFjruNboFaUzIFHxxwsDx2XCDICG47UWFqR/5 33cTEBPXnCYdPPOvuFWVs+JTisV6Nvmr8iKwoPO5A0EqoYwIbgBY14cemSECDCSPo0Dedrrh9 tS7EbHmEtI5m88yAajrjxihe1Xb4sn5TxJfiqrtrAiLP/P7/9+Q2MIsLwX9ptRyxtmqwNRxZh COrgydDPUywJQOdgOEOiE40s4plv+iMiN7gEX9F1HYosnLh2Pnk3Ap7pSfoR4hwpPrsaLxDmd NvexANDCKXUuq2QR6EQvyv5tF2+v8Hh6GPpeur6dAGTPxzC6MkqXI4k3sPqwOlsEjvY4ekPAc Z2VnFlZ/dsSrikv+R89tUtrVCeTkS5vLd6RrMAtO9vJ9vOF22Mjd3IS/iCH31qwTrxVupd2TQ +iAkELDpxjxa4Q= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > > > I suppose it's still reasonable to set `gnus-registry-enabled' in this > > way -- the registry is, in fact, "enabled", it simply hasn't gotten > > loaded (the naming problem again!). Perhaps the formatting functions > > should go back to the earlier, more explicit check of `eieio-object-p'. > > This was almost a year ago -- is this still failing? Yes, it still bugs me all the time. Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 19:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.163873373412294 (code B ref 45330); Sun, 05 Dec 2021 19:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2021 19:48:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mtxVG-0003CE-1l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 14:48:54 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55226) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mtxVE-0003C0-Ex for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 14:48:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=a8CPFO3FWS/AYYzFXK+QPZlfNwkLeofNQ6dKs/JU+RE=; b=QkgpZf8MmTfXhrYgsDZbY370yg 4qcipRhLzfV0iVlu092rFL5OP+DfUpkuugMo9/0KTrzLQCc9NaFDekQsSOQ6algiAdioMTgG8O8vD LaXzZsqljBkxAfCJPHpK0R2iJX9DW13lpdpG0gRPwaVQKuufQtZPfpM0/ynxLjz6z0dI=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mtxV5-0002Ic-Sn; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:48:46 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEUmIiSMfHPIwr// ///XfD68AAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+UMBRMvJqYCnRsAAAGPSURBVCjPRdFBa6NAFAfw l1KH6MmCKepJignqp3BDG8KeTFGpPZlFhySfws0hbHMyIUrrKQYDOp9ynTG2c5of/5nHezwAmKtW rRZRAvTMeasWSJTeMPkUiBG2VxuGCq5/IONVC+2GPzXamD0u9cxSpG/4E0Vm1Rjw72GPBuE9/53c rfcvHYwW9X72g8/dlkE2LtHg33HbJxF8XLZ2h6MOX8sDg2QetQHR06RDrklYP9+w0yVs9MjNNX4L HQrRzK0m/tAZNL3YuKsvo0f8Vy7YqKCFTQVyrnRYBCkMXwUG0ePPwD/NJJYEoxOgyW7eYVECsrbP FOPGPwBSpvcUavayhJHnMSjXaZk8ZSZHwV1f63B5eJ9S3JF0gJ6VIqdAxAX/hEhD0S7KsU6P5I2h iVMhfSQVQ3A9ocQnZwreKzMhCQhbKsrLbPbL6yD4ZbEYeBv2R30PC4dbWyxRg2UWcat2DtpbIHoV RDHD2JViByrMno1BenAWFWYFrnD/YCN3lFFkYEsguCKbxwUYiYpjc/Afhu+BQQa9QocAAAAldEVY dGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjEtMTItMDVUMTk6NDc6MzgrMDA6MDCFwShyAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1v ZGlmeQAyMDIxLTEyLTA1VDE5OjQ3OjM4KzAwOjAw9JyQzgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Peter Gabriel's _Peter Gabriel 2_: "Mother Of Violence" Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:48:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 01:23:39 +0100") Message-ID: <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Yes, it still bugs me all the time. Right. Eric, could you have a look at this again? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Yes, it still bugs me all the time. Right. Eric, could you have a look at this again? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 22:19:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.16387427225507 (code B ref 45330); Sun, 05 Dec 2021 22:19:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2021 22:18:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mtzqE-0001Ql-2q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 17:18:42 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:55970) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mtzqC-0001QY-4X for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 17:18:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11A89FA08F; Sun, 5 Dec 2021 22:18:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1638742714; bh=+a2bJCINxTayehy94rMyZhEe7Y/d3zdzlK247PIBkXY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=VaejItqjYUCaiDZoNBQVSNl6ZAS8N8rrQkMjiPbuCHCtYgwI6P3hoFPo43R1gIGC8 AXFRvQqVcXG6Wsb/mdF2PGq9oUaGnsoEV5dazq/vmPgHBLsoai9EsPL434dr6fsfD+ 0QbBgPQN0NDC/sURwsdYLEIr3fgzfPlugUygYDrc= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 14:18:32 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:48:43 +0100") Message-ID: <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 12/05/21 20:48 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Michael Heerdegen writes: > >> Yes, it still bugs me all the time. > > Right. Eric, could you have a look at this again? I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- bear with me here -- making `gnus-summary-line-format' a group parameter? It's something I've been thinking about for a while. It would be really nice to be able to give different groups different summary appearances. And it would allow Michael and everyone else to use a separate format string for groups like debbugs or whatnot, that are often opened without Gnus actually being running. WDYT? From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 01:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.163875328332412 (code B ref 45330); Mon, 06 Dec 2021 01:15:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2021 01:14:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60051 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mu2aZ-0008Qg-B9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:14:43 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:59607) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mu2aX-0008QI-86 for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:14:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1638753263; bh=n8i5uyd5ZL4x8OkmbZiEQMBNEPp/Ka+wz6a25Pv7yFI=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=fY5I5klegI74iyEBWYrGo+W4yt9LnedHZRw+nbA/aPV7XbQYC4vCbDtRChd42UcM+ o9iyCf5uBzi7ciOEK3uwGT5EyXS8lSDDF1h+tGvtsa1SFsTbEYodlCjMqkx2j/MDs6 Ob7DUAzadAg/i4O6yYRLcFv5mLC7FxbI/Ylg/j6o= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.225.87]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb105 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MFs1t-1mmbmy28D9-00HHe1; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 02:14:23 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 02:14:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 14:18:32 -0800") Message-ID: <87a6hesff5.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:G+lcJuf5dGxC7Km8Uk0Y3oD8FqO1ZRoEggkEQfBzpSa+jNXiG2i 5VgBDnQco5PDxWu61NLDib6Ntti8dmGsT4SfzlykkNxJP48mC8n9CtRwY41+K3HVr1RSokd jmjZbw1aU51jdh9r3C7PzVKxQhTtLtTsocF/4I1PtUbbi6viA6DQZ3/eMR5xOmlROualD9U 0tjCa/FO4yCw5qR+9KS+A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JoJaGu4EKzA=:TilsMsnJ8toa35o+JRCDpA 5AaUbvGoS6dbMXCiDOnaUVPoBkS9ESagQu0ZFs8HXxCHKdC/wsdgr/fvIIsO4C0OqIcITdvAg 7RgajP3CvT1C3s2/y2wB250yU/SHs5fYuzgecB2Uzr7EJNAQrFEg57l4mswLcbZvjGUIzRNRM My9IJ3klJkuTOUo74ZUIMNNBMfWv3n1q6mrgmKTx6nkJdWOvXWpcXYs8SzRppIqA7/CVQPSel DOgUjwBnHO/EhIY0NTf/v3kIdfoc/w7s9cO9g3iwkKKZvw+r4HG9nDdajzawWn/eKBuOcbuwh aixSZivC7a8NU7VkITRhRJPRncSpJsEp6BPs9DYYIlVK6N59qzULh25btVbTZv9o555CG/S/M jVFS2oOb3twxuFujr6M6cj7vfYuVsSpmO1GRX3qP0Ay57mROqPZke5DreANY8uqbn6hCnvP6J Tt0D8xRNM/oudsdMFqgNGeAxbA4bhfg9kx3OeoAlPX9eIFI7fASrA7v1Z4CiR8Ho5/IHZJ/SB cm/M0vrIPLKDk6XxDpk3Y5CE48BgpJaOdW4bCSrBW9Y873Nctzm26JyrSki8bUwEsBEbD6ghB dpvzhatklEoL8Vib9PuJ1+vAocgipfJHpJkLH4ezIJhZ9UH3wyyzvivCvElQI5eShwqEM+Zh9 aC5Om5pdviuKJIGRXfC7mezI+icTZVkpWshkGa2p0F3/tXYZNq+NGJwPHG5+6BVZ5hsQeoYtE wuPLMVn7Ct8BUpJXEeG4zrjchKwm8uQ/Yanc78g341jue64b/X5/cp0xINa/ne4cUNBlVxDCo kG29/O9sYFiYY8SIExhaOoDzlGMb16ISlYpQVRQHnJIBtgy4pVERvVitZgHlTP96xubEW+OI/ OrW5V2nGTWJzhrfApro/xyvkwUfqMXQOTmBlI6mXY85mIcxRGDdY8MXBxb4wCdPIfigkXNLLC O+agSwWHiTF2AxkDN6hyebjdo4lSHJdp4bLIdKOdnXBEK29VNeaMPjf5pWo77psX6UuW7BhXp z7DtiLzQKASfjJyqrXSon8OACXvtbDlHpPm9gpo1ITRZULOdO/mRv2lAI8jtCLQ4IOh6VxtsA KagxTXouiaInO0= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- > bear with me here -- making `gnus-summary-line-format' a group > parameter? It's something I've been thinking about for a while. It would > be really nice to be able to give different groups different summary > appearances. And it would allow Michael and everyone else to use a > separate format string for groups like debbugs or whatnot, that are > often opened without Gnus actually being running. > > WDYT? I have no strong opinion, but - why not, could be useful. I don't think this will spare a fix for this issue though. Because, AFAIR this registry -> nil thing has several reincarnations in debbugs. Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus In-Reply-To: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 01:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16387541792274 (code B ref -1); Mon, 06 Dec 2021 01:30:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2021 01:29:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mu2p1-0000ac-FU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:29:39 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39828) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mu2oz-0000aS-K3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:29:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60354) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mu2oz-0004T2-C3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:29:37 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:59620) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mu2ox-0004re-H4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2021 20:29:37 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mu2ou-0004lM-MY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 02:29:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Eric Abrahamsen Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2021 17:29:25 -0800 Message-ID: <87fsr6ldvu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a6hesff5.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8rIRq/eMoehMr4Hv4Mm8YR6tFwE= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- >> bear with me here -- making `gnus-summary-line-format' a group >> parameter? It's something I've been thinking about for a while. It would >> be really nice to be able to give different groups different summary >> appearances. And it would allow Michael and everyone else to use a >> separate format string for groups like debbugs or whatnot, that are >> often opened without Gnus actually being running. >> >> WDYT? > > I have no strong opinion, but - why not, could be useful. I don't think > this will spare a fix for this issue though. Because, AFAIR this > registry -> nil thing has several reincarnations in debbugs. But we could probably provide a default option value for debbugs groups, so that most users wouldn't even realize that they had a different format value for those groups. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 05:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.163876963131316 (code B ref 45330); Mon, 06 Dec 2021 05:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2021 05:47:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mu6qE-00088g-HC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 00:47:10 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60650) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mu6qC-000836-FA for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 00:47:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=m+7U3jhlUWvxkfIKYpKVk9R93iFDm6FOdSantx3g22U=; b=rDdAAUyjqhuGHx5f67N61pI7JL TJrx7CdtagqyY2LCDZRWhoCvHF34ID/MAv3f7WtCr7OQgpANNhTqgdk7+ycuov4g7Qji2h7owT8Iv 5cPHyn24+kQjZ3FyWQnURBCsy9GdN+NdwSozKCkxWRzCYM9HJq8vD4Co8IUDivZH/+9g=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mu6q3-0002WH-Lf; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 06:47:02 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEUrJi11nLmnL0aw Gi////+K8Yg8AAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UMBgUtHrYoNysAAAG1SURBVDjLjZMJbsQg DEVZLoDpBQhcIAP3v1v//yZLpUqtpZk4ed4NIZoVKxFSi4VSzEK1YCEkI4oWD4MARJMSgiWrJVYC 8FLi/g4vAjesCMsQCCqQ7lC1lECbWByYHR4aBXgWxgoRCEKbBlCDqtpSwiNr+XOsFvLR6amvkHNr c/ANIK8tt4nMYn70n2DcOlwyMowHwOnMDqbyTw/FLPydDmDaHHQY9yFQJ5pe/HLG+k5e1+zTmOW0 rxtMjAyPj8Ah0MeuyvSp6r/gv+ULwKKVBB0zfedQlN4d5DUTVbZgd7tcB2MkH9VTioNJb+2o84Xu AOHKTAArTevQPu+hB9Y4CaJAGtf+3gLitbS946sSnLh6TSR4vnGBXaNAS6joS82Wa4mIVbKl9ald 4F504xCP0ad2Ex9AK6QznqDJw6ytt7CB70mdD9SAzHltUDVRdJh5+Hof20Nb+0QBP5cEpqOhWaFz KsM3aOOI3VNsUFUWljDRBRzCBmNohbAbHgmq+kDu9RHgfCYud5RHYy1NgAs9aG7sYKVUHXDAiq/7 piM378sXTdcRt/i9qD8k9dbSbyDy9v8jwDePd3DtvJKNeAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAy MS0xMi0wNlQwNTo0NTozMCswMDowMJymWlcAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTItMDZU MDU6NDU6MzArMDA6MDDt++LrAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Talking Heads's _Remain In Light (vinyl)_: "Born Under Punches (The Heat Goes On)" Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 06:46:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 14:18:32 -0800") Message-ID: <87y24ynv3g.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- > bear with me here -- making `gnus-summary-line-format' a group > parameter? It's something I've been thinking about for a whil [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- > bear with me here -- making `gnus-summary-line-format' a group > parameter? It's something I've been thinking about for a while. It would > be really nice to be able to give different groups different summary > appearances. And it would allow Michael and everyone else to use a > separate format string for groups like debbugs or whatnot, that are > often opened without Gnus actually being running. > > WDYT? Uhm... I think it sounds like a surprising feature. People set that variable from hooks, I think, and I think that's fine without getting group parameters involved. And I'm rather doubtful that this will fix the problems Michael are experiencing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus In-Reply-To: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 18:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16388140108407 (code B ref -1); Mon, 06 Dec 2021 18:07:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2021 18:06:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35357 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muIO2-0002BW-Ja for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:06:50 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muIO1-0002BP-0t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:06:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55654) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muIO0-0008WT-Fr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:06:48 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:43458) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muINy-0001QM-9W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:06:48 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1muINs-0003kM-Jh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 19:06:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Eric Abrahamsen Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 10:06:24 -0800 Message-ID: <871r2pehgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y24ynv3g.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:C4vUBKcFhvYjluQEFA94/DYkod0= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- >> bear with me here -- making `gnus-summary-line-format' a group >> parameter? It's something I've been thinking about for a while. It would >> be really nice to be able to give different groups different summary >> appearances. And it would allow Michael and everyone else to use a >> separate format string for groups like debbugs or whatnot, that are >> often opened without Gnus actually being running. >> >> WDYT? > > Uhm... I think it sounds like a surprising feature. People set that > variable from hooks, I think, and I think that's fine without getting > group parameters involved. Huh, that's odd, and something I hadn't considered. I wonder if the hooks would end up running after the group parameter setting. If so, I don't see why current configurations wouldn't simply continue to work as they have. > And I'm rather doubtful that this will fix the problems Michael are > experiencing. In debbugs groups or what have you, he would use a summary line format that didn't include registry-specific functions, only data that was available by default in the summary buffer. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.16388261974891 (code B ref 45330); Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2021 21:29:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35581 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muLYb-0001Gp-CW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 16:29:57 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:34477) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muLYZ-0001GX-7F for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 16:29:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1638826177; bh=kVUpxJr+8mMhHVw8+hMVPQpspjPgtAZlKwe0ECP53XY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=cdtmEr4DeCECEymlXS+M61MaJ+QbjVPSEM7wrMI5WQZ9GpJiUxfJ4vAvecnwzMQbF EbrvSuj0LsqK2AmPcFerHxZkFQ8vNag12Vjv3L6eaEgWABkqAZsrKgYEammYEtsVYI mDqJmQ0JAbJltHWPADf9f5RyCGzt2wnPcubLiSJg= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.225.87]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MPaII-1nFsod2Y7e-00Mnyh; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 22:29:37 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y24ynv3g.fsf@gnus.org> <871r2pehgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 22:29:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871r2pehgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2021 10:06:24 -0800") Message-ID: <87wnkhbewv.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:cHH+ACrRpPEKLqAMeY1Y/N7XRqN5HIxScnN/JaM6zuvtCRHnNe4 7g93U8d0Dgh+O7iOgXHOFNFxIH9cBZIbpKy0PE2iJywCFbaI04+gFGsEUdD2YywKQMZ5Z2g ucNJuBwMTGicKDi3F77wj3My1p59qAPNte9e3rURhoFg48ARNTzAezgP6JtiSHugO59DHdU vri4tkLnFVtnV6E6K5rtA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:qjb3Nb94wiI=:hR06NI08wWAMpFKJBN3PZ5 tgbp0JyP4db+VlFd8Bd+I0y6PV8slZy1fprwTeinkCv5Gevd+jbZShyn9jbzhELtBzwn8gObg N5fjghZdbtSHx4W7Lk5W3WWgCA2odruCwHkF5MDt23hgKdKH1SNYowzOSsERcLxsIXF64IMmp 9TqnvvbNaPsx0uOF7BmuuGkCiObVFz0We0N3n/E+3RbtW4YZCaPQMb4cj3ae53fcwwGT9dyx4 +Ammv8LFrhsynn9N1B+exZ06Ahc2ldGH6ihuYyBKf7AzyFf5Cl0LO7YzIV4xcMzlPjIa54KDF mZXdPlV6aMfxIKiSkE7sMuTvTvAmXdOiE6l81ZC6tUj1MLuSO6CuNn8vd1bH6geSW4U8jhbJF jpjF2S1VsvnMMOWm6lIH/cm5AacvKFfEeFsRJMcu/PdSdTmgRxVwptkvZkubywZE1y5FjGcpN NLC5yZ1IWc5ZxsGznAiiErVEDPOvoNTXwnYL38KttfW1vKXo7nPhMyW1LD9OLVzl+eowSfiU5 C1K9cSYfbH7UayFP22KobhaXAs67HxIF/JILg+e5m023wBkoSatdLV13YK0/lRBdNyGLU8rFn KtGHdkfkazY1C93B44GPGwh9hGc6McrS4uKozJkg2nnxHMbNP7AOc2AKWO6BfVjuBvB5wZSpO XClAUwowcGasYdOxfEIXtbbx0iqAj0fCTrCTthP6WsFY/7KVH1fk3XybdwMt2NiWX+C0CA+TC GPHq5UlGTz7woiP3nH/aBPF4PpatKAyNZJq1RSY816td0knZsDn3H3Spe49RAYVD9UkDsdqku KE+Df4PcOMaZYAcdTvXXhf23v5TnNjPZ0VeElYuu0LJAuWA0cXrhfhJPesC3ljv2ykyUwrRS1 aAOZy243bVF+I7cBYr/0GVS2huVYuU2qjDbYRgG4CGeB89+4Crj7eUyFG/yZ8cTbN00IqXOPc 8xL1Nj2FBZfldh634myStJkVQl1RrT7dsPdGSSuG+BBdj/pjW7mHEtA1Rtvo8AsRdQBoXWTbh zwMbfFijLb5QD8+ngxjAqTzMghI00s2t43kzU1c9h8VVrpv8DTsMKIhYYuwCfD3zKUqEd2ivX 7nmhj7QNUhHYkU= X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > > And I'm rather doubtful that this will fix the problems Michael are > > experiencing. > > In debbugs groups or what have you, he would use a summary line format > that didn't include registry-specific functions, only data that was > available by default in the summary buffer. This happens to me with the default summary line setting: | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (cl-no-applicable-method registry-lookup ni= l ("fake+none+nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000+1")) | signal(cl-no-applicable-method (registry-lookup nil ("fake+none+nndoc+e= phemeral:bug#10000+1"))) | cl-no-applicable-method(#s(cl--generic :name registry-lookup :dispatche= s ((1 #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generalizer :priority = 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #))) (0 #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name eieio--g= eneric-generalizer :priority 50 :tagcode-function cl--generic-struct-tag :s= pecializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #)) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generalizer :p= riority 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &res= t _) #)))) :method-table (#s(cl--generic-metho= d :specializers (registry-db t) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :function #f(= compiled-function (db keys) "Search for KEYS in the registry-db DB.\nReturn= s an alist of the key followed by the entry in a list, not a cons cell." #<= bytecode 0x182de2023f4e54c4>))) :options nil) nil ("fake+none+nndoc+ephemer= al:bug#10000+1")) | apply(cl-no-applicable-method #s(cl--generic :name registry-lookup :dis= patches ((1 #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generalizer :pri= ority 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest = _) #))) (0 #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name ei= eio--generic-generalizer :priority 50 :tagcode-function cl--generic-struct-= tag :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (tag &rest _) #)) #s(cl--generic-generalizer :name cl--generic-t-generali= zer :priority 0 :tagcode-function #f(compiled-function (name &rest _) #) :specializers-function #f(compiled-function (ta= g &rest _) #)))) :method-table (#s(cl--generic= -method :specializers (registry-db t) :qualifiers nil :uses-cnm nil :functi= on #f(compiled-function (db keys) "Search for KEYS in the registry-db DB.\n= Returns an alist of the key followed by the entry in a list, not a cons cel= l." #))) :options nil) (nil ("fake+none+nndoc+= ephemeral:bug#10000+1"))) | #f(compiled-function (&rest args) #)(nil = ("fake+none+nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000+1")) | apply(#f(compiled-function (&rest args) #= ) nil ("fake+none+nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000+1")) | registry-lookup(nil ("fake+none+nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000+1")) | gnus-registry-get-or-make-entry("fake+none+nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000+1"= nil) | gnus-registry-get-id-key("fake+none+nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000+1" group) | gnus-registry-register-message-ids() | run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-hook) | gnus-run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-hook) | gnus-summary-prepare() | gnus-summary-read-group-1("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" t t nil nil nil) | gnus-summary-read-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" t t nil nil nil nil) | gnus-group-read-group(t t "nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" nil) | gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#10000" (nndoc "/tm= p/gnus-temp-group-QMKNt6" (nndoc-article-type mbox)) nil (# = . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-bug-group((10000) "https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugr= eport.cgi?bug=3D%s;m..." (# . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group((10000) (# . #)) | debbugs-gnu-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus(10000 ((cache_time . 1638825937.36= 08027) (severity . "minor") (tags "notabug") (found_versions "24.0.91") (fo= und_date) (forwarded) (blocks) (affects) (pending . "done") (found (item (k= ey . "24.0.91") (value))) (fixed) (originator . "nyc4bos@aol.com") (date . = 1320812762) (archived . t) (id . 10000) (source . "unknown") (bug_num . 100= 00) (fixed_date) (location . "archive") (owner) (keywords "notabug") (done = . "Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen ") (summary) (subject . "24.0.91= ; Gnus gnus-get-function error") (log_modified . 1328358242) (fixed_version= s) (unarchived) (package "emacs" "gnus") (mergedwith) (msgid . "<84k479sz16= .fsf@aol.com>") (blockedby) (last_modified . 1328358242)) nil) | debbugs-gnu-select-report() | funcall-interactively(debbugs-gnu-select-report) | command-execute(debbugs-gnu-select-report) Ok, still with the rest of my config. But it seems, unfortunately, that it's not that trivial. Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus In-Reply-To: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.16388271306342 (code B ref -1); Mon, 06 Dec 2021 21:46:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2021 21:45:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35586 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muLnd-0001eD-Ua for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 16:45:30 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:57928) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muLnc-0001e6-7Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 16:45:28 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54646) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muLnb-0007X0-4O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 16:45:27 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:48802) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1muLnZ-0005Lr-Er for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 16:45:26 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1muLnW-0002gB-OI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 22:45:22 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Eric Abrahamsen Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:45:14 -0800 Message-ID: <877dchcsr9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y24ynv3g.fsf@gnus.org> <871r2pehgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnkhbewv.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9SNyghjLXx5nMJRZzqJayBWQaMY= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> > And I'm rather doubtful that this will fix the problems Michael are >> > experiencing. >> >> In debbugs groups or what have you, he would use a summary line format >> that didn't include registry-specific functions, only data that was >> available by default in the summary buffer. > > This happens to me with the default summary line setting: Guess I didn't refresh my memory as fully as I thought! I was still remembering this as a summary-line-format issue. I've pushed an additional guard onto `gnus-registry-register-message-ids', I expect this will fix it. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 23:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.163883169322231 (code B ref 45330); Mon, 06 Dec 2021 23:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2021 23:01:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35639 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muMzF-0005mU-9m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 18:01:33 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:41321) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1muMzD-0005mI-Vw for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2021 18:01:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1638831676; bh=wemYMcriVjNNNWs51KuZ3/O2WeJl6po8YiMQD/+HvmA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=mcCu3BCmHdHJHMbeaftZy+qMqcmgpFA7bcOKIXejSPI9iAGHgpPoFwwZznmToyfgP rTLRjFAHyFhD+vanU+4aOjINm/0cxHWpHNsdDZnLXfYDg3O/BY2yKeKCAa13RQEDbX BFbQwBsM8WjLVu6uGRzGAGbMW5z861sTkLVnvlFo= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.225.87]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MQgpA-1nElPW0sdC-00OA55; Tue, 07 Dec 2021 00:01:16 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y24ynv3g.fsf@gnus.org> <871r2pehgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wnkhbewv.fsf@web.de> <877dchcsr9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 00:01:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877dchcsr9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:45:14 -0800") Message-ID: <874k7lpcck.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:WsjoP1TUU91fY6Uww+W/8nbnhpU951WDb3og4bF1y7qu27pJsw/ dreBl9S8tkuMB8q/jwKbDU41pffgNu/ZJylzxPclAN5w9FhmqXKF7SFKRiNAJuADmUD6vaL 5t2ZQzVVWGp7IADlQ53xcQ3PZGTlS9bovAkixc+TnbI4qkbEbeKEEbsoLHEw4GCxLEMk8uG NXK3Evd9iFbM36iINnSLw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:NmahIlqYTCc=:8trzORTNYpFhc6KC4QOE9F ASDJUWNJBkbLiT9Kb/ey37tSM3pr0a8X34wI2gaOiS0oTxBngoKL7hm1hWtCW1TEgALdV6tgj LtKeOFU7pqdLTMEY3f01Nt5O5MWksvI+9Li3UrPr0//sR31hIF6aoNkh10dIWvNy+V28f9vAq JIu7L/FW2EYSyzUpy7GIUa5rd5rjLt68qSp/ixW8MsZ0UrhDuEX0qHaMMfhslEspVkVDPNpzw M7F/SxEx5nHkdpjnWiWTcSs4ir9ju2mAu8fumwJe/3q0O3m3LBF8ltiISvhjcYJc5i+E7xOs1 DGfWbBk6ReTsQGkxUoAkgzQ5LTQYZL0TjjQPzwS4hFA9bKwdk7v99hLenq93kTouYqOwYXbk+ HE/S0WvVoJ3FPQt+u4puicxQyAWDMZIlqWCACH34AGEqNE9e8Sr7t1oT/t58i5qbqWcdyQEmd qqw462yFA0Jy1khfZUXkf/hdufLQURT5SY43z2KbAyQPzxDTLs525JO2YsqoqlJfCYg9elc9G Y3GD/5Twspkm1QZz1TsV0uGu5a2mFhdHztVrvEv2fOow+2BROF6i+jo91b1xMWE1qSP5p0F/t 4onfv8CgUoKE5o30BhfC7FzywEIn1umUsgEQS44bD9LpdMxxEkNDQGnUi0AK1G0YNuJtE1d/N vaqoH4mg0ZEz4xcirgE5/p+pNhnFtCZXBa8gJZKrPUUdMB+kzdZeUXaiNwtsyEVHoWA5Iz4oc cYTvoU27/+0rSeKNogrsXT30iEaZ4J/so5u5xBGgUC9B7k/70UtrsU9Gom3eQN+MSo14DwsO5 auVr8LjCHNTOkm3mlcZ2hHByDq0QB2qNhloykR95nhHAt7oIb0nSFAvuKmijT28xj/fZ6PTz0 w2cSGekEjkT/qH8u+oC84PRCFXt+cdJfe/rXAlESvNsE70ZqSo8ntxUbUs3Ah8odUuLE/njz8 auaXoRUaEjC+H6J6rUN+zYxBKJl+S1pJmFwtg5ZbzSJPI8Jyzyoe4tM4EOYpYNtqLkvDpC16C rTCUPvl/TpD1Ck0MH0eVwFusV1cZIoYlYf3DsSFOukuL4K4/ZfMHpWqL8fWTy9tX7pRNEGVCd KCmOy1SuALp50s= X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Guess I didn't refresh my memory as fully as I thought! I was still > remembering this as a summary-line-format issue. I've pushed an > additional guard onto `gnus-registry-register-message-ids', I expect > this will fix it. Works for me, thanks! Of course the `gnus-registry-article-marks-to-chars' (and the such) problem remains. Wouldn't it make sense to replace the `gnus-registry-enabled' checks with a function call (gnus-registry-enabled-p) that would not only check the variable but also the existence of the database, just like in your installed patch? TIA, Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 02:47:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.16392771796231 (code B ref 45330); Sun, 12 Dec 2021 02:47:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2021 02:46:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwEsV-0001cQ-9n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Dec 2021 21:46:19 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:43001) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mwEsT-0001cE-W6 for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Dec 2021 21:46:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1639277162; bh=Xd9PRdpSeUfWiGRkm/lKq8JvcHmagyyjcIyxFRZWc+w=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=kKvY2CwwWHiUkg/Z7BdHbMmKR2cfYksEN+ktuiz9kN1BGwWvbmtY6oiaPg6Ztzwrk eMFVm2f8RKMkMTN1BVv2exiNKQlXQhI4cYyqlX+zqKYg4x5Mq3P8UTt+AvAgk3GNaB C64xhepn8cuExkzUZUYXTTIOcszQD0J3K2UK8teg= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.208.225.87]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mi537-1mIWTY3zFJ-00dm7y; Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:46:02 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:46:01 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Sun, 05 Dec 2021 14:18:32 -0800") Message-ID: <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:L37/UwFLbUP9y8LqojoBRykhniztQMXWLOi5I7ms9AS84iuHyTY rXMuqwihDHbPDO61BQawQee6lXN0if5JmjAF1fiSjceO0lI5JxiWRLnRrTv/AJvKf1wNnZ5 nPpLxvRESLpYLMhEUIhoGgQHlrs85VC+e+uy/mRzbH4wuPUziLExSAwlr2qbIr2t/EjZ+Fb 5ueUGFx+RkMqxEodNDptw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:ZW8HpqxYaPU=:HRlYgQWExe1AqrxxHT/tUo 7z8ChH1y0LR91sSOp7J9wT44fLZT+9Tp9VXKkzktt2Wtwuh82Z7HJZ1tYrmwgNsNDj824UstC RqZYknMk/vR/OiNTM6XI+opfNSHGHGhkH0y74xImuhw2p/nv0DbadXrrFdEV95umhcSYepuPV rdQezDULmzVGqYvv6f6+tNu1CN64D5xSSFe9oJkTME9QEKdWgrZHYWSONXHnWuUb4jNlIy/XK U2lPTVWtS2Rt2z4VQ3FpPrleaIk9D0UM4DGr5lRJxQFFz36JMheUDX7CukL54yMJARBsSHEV2 ldjzC0OM8p3CwnbwBXr0uzyaKNymVS3fY5tMpyKcNayvSQHvxzYqDpA1n6Dv4+sZh9WPQ1VaY 1JT5qEc7EPs72PDuBxXmJuGdNMnj2BygTFcmhwFG66oPibhC+cTuLm5ASaobjF8bLzGzR91I5 Ldlqqjfr6Huwwf3mRXOqBSDWYWcIZwPSGYKmH3ohayxpKWIpExfnfr1sGJWKjYzvzF6ctG6Ec cqM9AahrsVuCvSnKxh0PQ215Xl9VyeNCT48NHHK2E1OCzZiomw8kAYldks/K/Tf6boCSmP7AN m/rR/5tEFiGHVggQZZI0OGTHaI9UWh3vZ/lpZLy4MjBQTg475B+s0/ScdkNsaGP7iCFzc97Jp KaCeF546u0x10ovK7x/a//Q7xf+E7EvUcGH3rfqRf92krhSULzbkX8geKcqbqFmssaxbp4buI zj6ebvATQFgNBv4g149yNgBhCFLb6AEQWy17kEeK5u0OhOS8OSi3flnExGZ+d3zB+zN7Uv7iL RL7JcEMuQeXNsaifn24kDypQVsxEmKGPbXW0IAxp1KsEocjeZDPg3VYhoYMFEgbhGJFxYV750 iOQi18MrOBU3T4InRd5eTWQeFIN3uDZ1aobJahy4QrrssaQb5FUWLs8H9pE+K4irFptOeJV8S Ls5PxPUnGYT94V0HKMCM8SOqdiM3nVRO2/QTFi8Zf3cKGSxD97es/frulMeNMF8PfCjaa7bTE A7OqFUILNiv0oXRhMdlJ+LklS0r/DFsOHNEYmbqNuDTTynL3n4J/F68iiGNsdspw0LGaRGMe6 AzbthZxPRnmJJE= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- Please let's not forget about this again. What has yet to be done to fix this issue? Regards, Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 22:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.164029933511108 (code B ref 45330); Thu, 23 Dec 2021 22:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2021 22:42:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35137 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n0Wms-0002t6-M5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:42:14 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:47114) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n0Wmr-0002se-6P for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:42:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B1AFFA02D; Thu, 23 Dec 2021 22:42:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1640299326; bh=t8np7GZ/DlPLX4+u7kRJ0pBN8bwx3ia0b+Z5SsMAYXM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=YGwomvCu7PL444Gb9gvVj1kYV7KBPyI7J8yeJ4DVNZpXja2ElogWYeFD79wo6qR6W Z8MA1XQPHr+OOZ40izlygupNefS9Sr9KhMl5laApv3PXkvy3dcHBxLzjJvUmcH5hWn 4EYSEz6BAbtP9QJ++MOjqD9DmLILrzbVSo5NCqzY= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:42:04 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 12 Dec 2021 03:46:01 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 12/12/21 03:46 AM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> I can switch the test to be something more explicit, but how about -- > > Please let's not forget about this again. > > What has yet to be done to fix this issue? Okay, dang it, here we go. Having thought about it, it seems like the solutions might be simpler than I thought. `gnus-registry-initialize' looks like this: (defun gnus-registry-initialize () "Initialize the Gnus registry." (interactive) (gnus-message 5 "Initializing the registry") (gnus-registry-install-hooks) => sets gnus-registry-enabled = t (gnus-registry-install-shortcuts) (if (gnus-alive-p) (gnus-registry-load) (add-hook 'gnus-read-newsrc-el-hook #'gnus-registry-load))) It makes no sense to set `gnus-registry-enabled' to t when we haven't fully loaded the registry. How about we move `gnus-registry-install-hooks' and `gnus-registry-install-shortcuts' into `gnus-registry-load', after the actual loading, a la the attached patch? Does this solve the problems you're seeing? Eric --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=gnusregistryguard.diff diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el index 163d543afd..feb39df925 100644 --- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el +++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-registry.el @@ -356,7 +356,10 @@ gnus-registry-load (interactive) (let ((file gnus-registry-cache-file)) (condition-case nil - (gnus-registry-read file) + (progn + (gnus-registry-read file) + (gnus-registry-install-hooks) + (gnus-registry-install-shortcuts)) (file-error ;; Fix previous mis-naming of the registry file. (let ((old-file-name @@ -1184,8 +1187,6 @@ gnus-registry-initialize "Initialize the Gnus registry." (interactive) (gnus-message 5 "Initializing the registry") - (gnus-registry-install-hooks) - (gnus-registry-install-shortcuts) (if (gnus-alive-p) (gnus-registry-load) (add-hook 'gnus-read-newsrc-el-hook #'gnus-registry-load))) --=-=-=-- From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 18:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.164097697810341 (code B ref 45330); Fri, 31 Dec 2021 18:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2021 18:56:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57461 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3N4b-0002gj-RM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:56:17 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:58883) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3N4a-0002gS-9V for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:56:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1640976959; bh=1uROR4yg0+S44hplI6noiR1kxoA6tWcnJCB8QMUe9E0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Pkl5y7WQMMXC+VaAFV98DL6YR/QT+Vykkww2S5MBfaiMjx3PzzwNeja/k6wJn5loT D63Eg9DnzSNGzxddsmXJZh00tyOvaf19gIC+yFXWLqtlct7P0tkJIF86aJqjaH9Dqm f0wkKm9ON3KSyPDFzhv6gparSeH7yVVTAwq07RZE= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.201.186]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb105 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MbCDq-1mS7VO3MHg-00brTE; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 19:55:58 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 19:55:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:42:04 -0800") Message-ID: <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:PXIL7qGd/kZpf4pojTJ4gQO2WVy139YUabtTQxxlNbSZGbYOA2J B0eMEElK/NOsbN8K3jGHyj4nTHXoAx1XHWMjmbWmnUsjb2bPluAN8dnfwQYsPtosZGEfCCj UaCwEqvOXpev2HsFXNXgtSlxZRE4vk12Cy/kHmNoHZM925pNifYu4Z34Q96UyxpyCM5TZ+6 hPYeUE7FBR4miArAV9WwA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:tbDJPUUWgeA=:fgji0BUPJR5X/5tskqjA5K /5tgjlVYITnphZ+hiGNrPemjeJrRziWUiMZ097M/QDVE0aT4V1q9tObUBNuZBbNZ36K4IiOyV tedMeFjItu+ohiSxyjDIb1Z8uHUJPAkOP/9inX75WLH1wBgChNkCarliWW9kEFTI30qu/hOaX MVDXsx6hakHSCSwAENUy1aSw/xgmdv79dBpBTx30Ccb/VwAMqm7QkdsmjwFChHuHPV2OcQ7md 4x6cR2CNif9Iw9pZU6ZnELGtThc4/ovI1RhqMT1m2fMgkCNxbG5o8MjTT0kVAT9fexQt8QHEQ HJE2R3wav2f1jiIqvwFXrTLxy/IiapT9n6O1TqGLgvpFFTKmIM7yahXWuGumywpuRa0bbTdIK UnD6Yq1EFZs7JSIBqQu5vv5FyqD7TcjOPREowu47RGlwbwv/c0PWA8jepSf8AnGTokbnXai6M eHpZcq91oUojaFwd04g7znrPKZ7VsLjiRZEmWiJVVh3OsfPm589bQzM0TWB5x7kXJ3f38r2Mm CmLTGMTBQ0AnqplDrWzGKrGSXnj+WWmyiFOYKKoIiwUKxN1w8vs1Eaan1FQ0wot/GDeWUtizY LJuLpuFHMZV9SUdZ9+7paiE5akhNtpWxS8x0GL8cc0bZ8Dpx+lc5fh7gNsZFDcFDFS4EMc88e LY29C4Lcm+/t5wfbYsTeAequVb3/ctABSwxL6y15PnyJR43fBCtphSVkYG+6l/XVkbwmzAjqG UloBmzqDNDkproIKa7B94qgkwBPfKYIxqV0p6/1P569FxyRnxu0pVaLDuprNJtPwL8R3glCBv vuwGi5PPzjC4GI9HzIsXUb2DrX/D1v2S5NjYNswWCXhRDtnklahTzV8pq553GhOOmrcMXtwTB 9lFjQs4CUGmEW1+Eil6ciixCfGlHOnf0n83lzReG9Xj4U3fGwf5nPIBu/njiQRBT2DgTNBl/C nsBRDDH+qsOnls0ufIvuTSPcVBPkPALxhRh4IlZJZqj3me9+pZhWWrS55UEk9Jo5yOqEhaSbQ NSqGA1cUSI6g8EfPHm+hidWkVrM50ejk7lVKFukXZxjehFOaP6SpfIwSzYVZqFfTGCU9fJMV6 DPG+FKmWPQowMo= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > How about we move `gnus-registry-install-hooks' and > `gnus-registry-install-shortcuts' into `gnus-registry-load', after the > actual loading, a la the attached patch? Does this solve the problems > you're seeing? I can't tell whether your solution is appropriate but it indeed seems to fix my problem! I'll leave your patch installed and report back should I see any downside. Thanks, Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 20:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.164098339622895 (code B ref 45330); Fri, 31 Dec 2021 20:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2021 20:43:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3Ok7-0005xD-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:43:15 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:46160) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n3Ok5-0005wv-Ig for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 15:43:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A004CFA08D; Fri, 31 Dec 2021 20:43:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1640983386; bh=0Kb0fGPYJLFY4wVU1ZaMXB6ZZMD5uG4g0XrbhC0azZk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=CIB0Au35ryPiLqKsnC5ep3DKnl+2QPKTy7vuwGnO/NZP7D1F5ag/DZdaOz40V5I9e HnDdpt5ygpxaKssZpoF4ALjYk+AMUi/iA8OvaAOJXCuOrZJ9UC9xFP1iCeV7YQUXlu oBQHnsHCttTutcl2D53YKsKBWrv2m1+8OujkrRx8= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2021 12:43:05 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Fri, 31 Dec 2021 19:55:57 +0100") Message-ID: <87v8z4y086.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 12/31/21 19:55 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> How about we move `gnus-registry-install-hooks' and >> `gnus-registry-install-shortcuts' into `gnus-registry-load', after the >> actual loading, a la the attached patch? Does this solve the problems >> you're seeing? > > I can't tell whether your solution is appropriate but it indeed seems to > fix my problem! I'll leave your patch installed and report back should > I see any downside. Great, thanks. I can't imagine any downside, since the code is still guaranteed to run, and the flag is set only if the initialization is completed. Even if you weren't seeing erroneous behavior, I would still think this was an appropriate refactor. But yes, let's let it sit for a bit and see. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: bug#45330: closed (Re: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus) Message-ID: References: <87czkweepk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 45330 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Reply-To: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:07:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1642028821-14128-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1642028821-14128-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gn= us which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 45330@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 45330: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D45330 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1642028821-14128-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 45330-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 23:06:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7mhm-0003fc-Gb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:06:58 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:55932) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7mhj-0003fL-Td for 45330-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:06:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EC4D610117B; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:06:48 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1642028809; bh=zT6uh1GBvo9/J2yZLV0hvD+AddBG+He6QR0++qbgNto=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=E6k3V2iAaKM1kSyMc3pbO2kPyDyT7i9dJ31zy5TBy+T9b8Mx8ICccSOPw+uLomRds +sXvVqsgbfnDq9kvjDyi/z4qSJI8cvZ3nWkyAFWo/CCnLutQcATKcTVSbtQu2+gCMz Ah76n2/bTieyWGzTZ1mAK23Np0ACKtauh839v9Bk= From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: Re: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:06:47 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Fri, 31 Dec 2021 19:55:57 +0100") Message-ID: <87czkweepk.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45330-done Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 12/31/21 19:55 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> How about we move `gnus-registry-install-hooks' and >> `gnus-registry-install-shortcuts' into `gnus-registry-load', after the >> actual loading, a la the attached patch? Does this solve the problems >> you're seeing? > > I can't tell whether your solution is appropriate but it indeed seems to > fix my problem! I'll leave your patch installed and report back should > I see any downside. I looked back over the code and made some more rearrangements, I hope really protecting various state variables behind the successful loading of the registry. Please re-open if I've gotten anything wrong. Thanks, Eric ------------=_1642028821-14128-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2020 04:53:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqiv-0003kJ-Ej for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:37 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqis-0003kA-Kh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqis-0004CX-BK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:34 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:37507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqqiq-0004F0-At for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:53:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1608440000; bh=lBbsSglXBm423eaCPUYj9ydX7lCKXosZ3VPw5D1ialE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date; b=srPB4kDJzGKP/oLOiYKcD2b/Vw8tS+FjANI6kpD965HMBXGBfg1SZe0M86IHJetOj +WRybIqy4oYEp0A3R2XIcOvlaumsL/1XJgSodvkMNMLV8hCtJqSVcLVqq1KsPSlbXk brzTXuNpcRG6+U0HlNftGDrLYRHMvwMoMGpGuBIA= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.67.99.46]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb004 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MVXnr-1ka1TM3S8t-00Z1nn; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 05:53:19 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 05:53:18 +0100 Message-ID: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:u3p7L7aOtBR9hycYr6nOz3tH87L8H2i1sAUOmlqp9CboNtnGi/j JiFNjhLzeOFeNrxp3WKXP5qTN2h5hG+Kfd1oj8lUsA0LXgGdkNArQVQ+DLqbJ7H8qNe3fO9 nA+tTm415sQKQNcE72pEyoogfCPhblza8w0InpFrlo+18lHuGZNq54+gsL0DOjD+deorheM xOn26axKJ2iCwhlpY3F6g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:AHrDjZ4XljA=:LjA0nu/MDMXvGd96pcNVeb CBIKA4rf6n5sOMVdzmcusByeOO+dNXiwc+/WPaWBNiqRY/OXi+eI5AFzxWElo1IV378tbSLXt gPeTfZrwOG+fuswJWJGWCh2XxBXoRVZPe7vj8SzvFRwCeV3i/7gq0r14eTG4ZwjHEGBCQLb5x 0Rnp+TWAcUSfOzU0G2KQj1rX0cbo5LiPIHGchAM+ehbBfRiH3UwUuwHDXozJQ2j2wr9sgluBj oSCOx4tOtF3/GQZTn6TtwjMCyFfwBAjp3L2HyFKRnOj/v8GKyMBJuaPAVYM6zQ5odoHSxq0g3 I3X3XK3dnwqlPtrM4SIrbjPreIBbAWILsJdrwiFTe1fk8YSFH++nXLTJI7XJKeOOFb0u+gplW YdnVOvVgPKBs9+FWhnnt1+J4ojNdJFiMcB4X26MgzwjuvFWdoAEVySwElcKCelLUXPnXuzoVO 2IbSkM1CyPvCtogyzv5A/qLN0AHZt3+IAc6Atw2aVjnAuXO0tv0UA7kCnGwhHddbKZ5jpdIw3 KsoTNfb/UTXXLGJA6J0Gh556/hIUETkgbWupttuMcuzeHF8eHEp4piFU1pYJbbE0EQbhS5Fse FZyRgyPODYNzw8yVEF/81t9vIu6rFZsO/Z60DQ+3dMdjrniEa7/wupDux9Zjosyr736hFf11m pAOfvqOh1JSCVixQG//mbb5NbzXKl+k11+DKQOYx16JaDZIX3a71TACz4IjFNPQA+qddiMl6r 9rIREiKnsfItz1P/I6VlJc5HziSWLUjm85O/ee1DTULDaEjC6WxSQt41r59L3711lhlxoXtoE kTDQQwUcQAGMdkeFjN7HZM8exRS6D4wpC4A+S5z4vIkzqrnYntp/QLje/g4Sku658p8k4CGE7 jaGq7bzIjAlvFjARbgeUNB8vexLOlBifV8eVtIdDA= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.3; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Eric Abrahamsen , Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Hi, sorry if I had already reported this and a fix is on the way. Or had it been fixed and has reappeared, or even my fault this time? I'm doing something like (debbugs-gnu-search "debbugs" '((subject . "debbugs")) nil nil nil) and when I hit RET over a bug's line I get this error: | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p nil) | gnus-summary-goto-subject(0) | gnus-summary-last-subject() | gnus-summary-highlight-line() | gnus-summary-insert-line([0 "" "" "05 Apr 2001 23:33:09 +0400" "" "" 0 0 "" nil] 0 nil t 90 t nil "" nil 1) | gnus-update-summary-mark-positions() | gnus-summary-read-group-1("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" t t nil nil nil) | gnus-summary-read-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" t t nil nil nil nil) | gnus-group-read-group(t t "nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" nil) | gnus-group-read-ephemeral-group("nndoc+ephemeral:bug#36903" (nndoc "/tmp/gnus-temp-group-lGIifE" (nndoc-article-type mbox)) nil (# . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-bug-group((36903) "https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=%s;m..." (# . #)) | gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group((36903) (# . #)) | debbugs-gnu-read-emacs-bug-with-gnus(36903 ((cache_time . 1608439370.59222) (last_modified . 1573129444) (done . "Eric Abrahamsen ") (summary) (forwarded) (source . "unknown") (log_modified . 1573129444) (blockedby) (found_versions "27.0.50") (fixed_versions) (subject . "27.0.50; gnus registry vs. debbugs") (archived . t) (affects) (package "emacs") (location . "archive") (originator . "Michael Heerdegen ") (date . 1564816382) (severity . "normal") (owner) (keywords) (fixed) (found (item (key . "27.0.50") (value))) (bug_num . 36903) (fixed_date) (id . 36903) (tags) (unarchived) (msgid . "<87pnlmen9q.fsf@web.de>") (pending . "done") (blocks) (found_date) (mergedwith)) nil) | debbugs-gnu-select-report() | funcall-interactively(debbugs-gnu-select-report) | call-interactively(debbugs-gnu-select-report nil nil) | command-execute(debbugs-gnu-select-report) Annoying. When I had started Gnus before, this doesn't happen. TIA, Michael. ------------=_1642028821-14128-1-- From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.164202887614256 (code B ref 45330); Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 23:07:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7mih-0003hs-Q1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:07:55 -0500 Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:55972) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7mif-0003ha-Jo for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 18:07:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (c-71-197-232-41.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.197.232.41]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3CBD110117B; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 23:07:47 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1642028867; bh=5y/G2QUx+sRlS3aONk6yYh/moyx/jEnfnlQ7mRIv8nw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=c7R6bnDgzoCY3C+85GGSBtR0wgCFFMizhd3YkrLngxeD8HKlNH549+P9YPlXngree BMNNQPJM1CsVEXPVoozoOtcyBpsLf/3Qll+gTFd0g7M6AEAUoefvCMz2hKMAUXBeq0 P3sfwcKNuvx1izDVTVPPZ4OpKViQRmjBdgp9+gkw= From: Eric Abrahamsen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:07:46 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Fri, 31 Dec 2021 19:55:57 +0100") Message-ID: <878rvkeenx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 12/31/21 19:55 PM, Michael Heerdegen wrote: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> How about we move `gnus-registry-install-hooks' and >> `gnus-registry-install-shortcuts' into `gnus-registry-load', after the >> actual loading, a la the attached patch? Does this solve the problems >> you're seeing? > > I can't tell whether your solution is appropriate but it indeed seems to > fix my problem! I'll leave your patch installed and report back should > I see any downside. In hindsight, there didn't need to be a `gnus-registry-enabled' boolean, we should have just been checking the existence of `gnus-registry-db', but I think it's too late to remove that boolean now. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.164207784622139 (code B ref 45330); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2022 12:44:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60423 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7zSY-0005l1-08 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 07:44:06 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:56623) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7zSV-0005kQ-MP for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 07:44:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1642077826; bh=QhK39YH+2X50dYKTuHJclOgnOv/6rYLlNH4ckT8QB6c=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=RnWduV/DPZ9ByRSTNGJQPWOSaRn3gqMRhjfXNftT0K0rlp2wMIpH54cRWnkEY0M4y FRRHJbevBB/m1n4duem5favGQYI6YuPf60nZXyKJDmT68HKIONZlTyGTCeWYnT9haX FLj1GCkrhXEoTfLKfB2KScWw8ypuGO+C/yYIlwiY= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.201.186]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MnG2Q-1mRGBq2pSW-00j6zk; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:43:46 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> <878rvkeenx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 13:43:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878rvkeenx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:07:46 -0800") Message-ID: <87r19bst4u.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:IUHwvj7DB9rQx6r5P5EAWmkNN1Br9K2CU8ie04e3HpCUHY4Lm1n QWq10dhUyObv4S0SXZBS9iPHJW0UAq+meNg1tGTn38DhXBAu71je9WRbItjBs0V7UZpg+tZ IC+V6gIl2COYOvCOV2rnexV35VoE1DJQc7D9y8bRliscOF1hByxle20bKsYLKtUW7LNskoi dQBO4FZ/0rMux4HDcL0WQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:PU3qT4b8CKY=:mpt+ATVrebw/vQYYbVb1Zp VBE3l4gwJvXFSGAby2KiuCqaE27JvpqNFZIl4ualltFjDwmr/yY6N0D/2R6SlOibFupTY9MrF m5Cem5dBp/ZZIU4fmK6UgPLQ20+V18tfNcVLqN2gYAPpH1twAfAzksCGRbZMQyxHoQHJ2HWl+ VAE3tICVzZIuMkB55s6/g8sZ94H63G10Y9DAPwJQCiaT2sUb/0IDTeAGvvoo3XtCmVIHPd2ZT f5+yw7mSVviHNZ1NHcKjbiHXkcenABZ1fMPQGmNs2htdawDPeoJRleV9Y3bWQNSYZeSnO3FGm mzmU5acmWzjf9C+V2Oja6MhhH36+R4OKeXMLmfhTFexOtoOMxs52lJVh9rfyMeW0ZcGMxHlFJ U8eBwRJYU4+0zoD2/Z0x5c1LQnmF1GKQ5/oCXZVO7w0x3tCPcC2+NhjwKMdIXBCUAZW+kyFKo qRv85sTTj81mqV/bXNYHSi5/9+/x7BrDVKBDaLntWkeAJy3AfTAnMSz9HIB8XgR/LMbtPf8XN WDLX+y59UPsIxWsYlsOX2uyZacthW00kv7vqwpp17IRC8NcOUxcGyNUk158BJ4pUfUyXlwCaF gy0LucnCBuU8XidrMFG+kXVAQ7RwtfwmpBNHLjahwrXQ9FryiEWQ2b73GBdND5SyHElj9iNg5 NaYp6WFejnOMorN5m2sXQkz0AQ5+Nt8e5ofuhOd9WcuCDKn18vZibpyVuveKcH4Z9mGRP7ktf MVHyCwEkgBeQd9cOZRsaajAxWQsFSOtr4Vc6L46QONoXnefAF+a9TZGLzXJgGjMRdWl3Lhyb7 52yuHcJdGRodRpVFQ4ISm11yq+AGzqDvYEuGfvnfV4BoILvnPmMAMoIUMiTIyrVTXMjz9D9q0 4Ql9r0szVSpvHCvI58gmLvCHerv1QtzLWBeYHXGm7xcEGuBXwCt38Ie6PY24UFaOb5gMhTcuF Ky7fDECAr+rcz/6Zc6rCvRnO3jv9eKczhH7S2yO1eIgtKTvMiO/YtB+Ymq7AlJxYbMeWG26yN NobWAvM3WO++RDcfxMRX7EUA90jdvNqgHz/iZm0ksvUgyop0MCzz0FAxSJU0InzzvlEWOwNI4 XIagUrte5IZsCk= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > In hindsight, there didn't need to be a `gnus-registry-enabled' boolean, > we should have just been checking the existence of `gnus-registry-db', > but I think it's too late to remove that boolean now. It's not used so often. And it makes things unnecessarily mixed-up. My gut feeling says you should give it a try. Anyway, thanks for fixing this bug. Michael. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus In-Reply-To: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 19:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.164210295425057 (code B ref -1); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 19:43:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2022 19:42:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n85zW-0006W5-Jj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:42:34 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50752) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n85zS-0006Vu-WC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:42:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n85zS-0004Jb-N2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:42:30 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:40588) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n85zR-0006xj-4T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:42:30 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n85zM-0002EW-3U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:42:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Eric Abrahamsen Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:42:08 -0800 Message-ID: <87zgnz778v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> <878rvkeenx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r19bst4u.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yggao+2s783pzAKMBiYCbIwvyYc= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Michael Heerdegen writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> In hindsight, there didn't need to be a `gnus-registry-enabled' boolean, >> we should have just been checking the existence of `gnus-registry-db', >> but I think it's too late to remove that boolean now. > > It's not used so often. And it makes things unnecessarily mixed-up. My > gut feeling says you should give it a try. Hmm, I suppose an obsolete variable alias wouldn't hurt, I doubt anyone's trying to do anything with `gnus-registry-enabled' besides checking it for truthiness. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:27:31 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45330: 28.0.50; debbugs-gnu: Can't select reports before having started Gnus Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45330 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: 45330@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45330-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45330.164211090316356 (code B ref 45330); Thu, 13 Jan 2022 21:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 45330) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2022 21:55:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n883j-0004Fj-JM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:55:03 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:42041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n883g-0004F6-GQ for 45330@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:55:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1642110884; bh=ralXIn8YrGcYZ2Lz3knzMPu41OLovYoenMb1gmKgvG8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=AGA5ZoR/RtiTQYiAi86aSIPdbNY9K+SSsA73HiUQkrsOJNX1lpga+1E9eOMaKm9I/ QupnUMHXsGVz7IiTKv0wtxmP4qwpwHuTYUOnrane+5SIvt1iIHMlFyphrDU1xqQQyQ wK5d9FkKGBLsk7tjifB+EWtxLYGrvCdkU+zj7Qh4= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.201.186]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mft7j-1mfdnh30B7-00gEUM; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 22:54:44 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen References: <877dpddqo1.fsf@web.de> <8735zzhi4w.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2hrfxcs.fsf@web.de> <877dpb6suo.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tusd3i70.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87sg7xrt82.fsf@web.de> <87tuscz974.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87y250vu1f.fsf@gnus.org> <87czmbj3w4.fsf@web.de> <87o85urfxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtlelmpz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87tufezgk6.fsf@web.de> <87r1a3ymdf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czlcmwn6.fsf@web.de> <878rvkeenx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r19bst4u.fsf@web.de> <87zgnz778v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 22:54:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zgnz778v.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:42:08 -0800") Message-ID: <87fsprmhcs.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:11in3oBs7CxjDIsRhVXNrlHyR5GVgKGZ6U+z8YzAXzFr8dVZDsr 0J2ZC6ocROaPiDRutA/MGg64Rbpwa1Ap4sqNMkqnz4tcucWc6ptAqez4e0AQITdakK8IzVG 9/xUffyWSMIXjUmfnFYUrLBI8ejMiz5+nAglXIwwcRIEOr++0SDbG9iCjPcymv9Qmrj39yP yMHWDbXz6SZ1+Q8LDnYuQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Bh3hHTxb2Q4=:ZdAe2dJkSKa2RaBTWC3zGz Pi1M9cJ9CYx5jSvtlFRCVaBI087bpgQkVLQNEzg8AJsgI/Fe7rebvkPUAS2ZgV8SN5jxHNKzS Ghy8voBBAjQjvJdxFkLIEqceHnNjEgVQKOBU0K6+rzkSF4ELOYYVT+tw7RfzihG+h6+LJ2gTf 3yHbPCytmQhJcP28tpkcuinyzeXwE8KG14scJzPX74MRTqTrmWnHTjLxk54OvW8DyOh3s4FEP yIIfx/e/lE2uttK5Qtvm31elMg+2y6HSLsgzJ2Z48ov4MJ1Cv6riL5DVSUmWjttjg8yhliWLQ BCRtU9vjfBM7J0VGGwXNLkUDjzOdEyy5AhR/jITtUKLRNaKrWabGM/Iw8SflYgyFtQxpMAyrz VeoE4Jtja3Wq6XFRVGr9Mg7lNmZ+bE3eJgrk+VqFjHjE3HYEbhVsx15rNHq1wOrzgPBgvGU40 9JpUUJwczD0laBfvYLjXlEM1Q/JU4imxBQbj4CYtP6LEluLubK+q2SAWrV7wMEbSI7ZeTZE5F E1Cp13H9D1rXD/JqbiCKtHIGwUB3EXRf9Qp7FWgpcsD4BB8FoDnRjqd4D5+Zln1szdSJ5Vx56 AHiY08iXkLwP3fK411guRYb3JUjbStOkZkRnXuqJ9sXxxN7fReYJye29n7/qzkFoRmdCS5vAO C+pORpYpY0e/H73Eb5kJEUTsseeEVwv9Vjy8Xlf66WQpGiiGmM0lHeDL4zjBJHg3QpipF74BC tro0z7JirHSQIYy9eMSRtv0VVFbDwA4NXr6rZYUVSRy6aONmLmxusH3F18ncphi815gyisUo5 LAep42ABcQBhzkg2SDAGPPONg1WZrPbnKZ0nl/7ccJRH5Rbk6ZiDI8FwKlLQBt19nJsujpkkT 8Y9VdWl/uN23H9o9sYHMpOntmgxEicLhfwZFU6sWE5ngC3Vg+rGBqnEX8L8x4AJBAaYtWJdmD +sQcoYYy5JZLheNBensx8ceg1Xp4BeFeKs8wXhHig1DhWove19ImvCuuM+2IsBjq1O4asYqfY 1kHxkjzmYn+fvVKFa1WxNBnnGVT+X3e6a8zSnM7mE/74G0DpkseNCMns+2Np8Vu9KKrbU7itn N4ybNB+9AHTosk= X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Hmm, I suppose an obsolete variable alias wouldn't hurt, I doubt > anyone's trying to do anything with `gnus-registry-enabled' besides > checking it for truthiness. Yes - preferably with a mention of what to use instead (which will anyway be more likely what the user really wants, I guess). Regards, Michael.