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Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:43:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 17:43:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Harig To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Message-ID: <837896638.1438818.1608140587925@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: 27.1: Cannot display options help text for query-replace MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1438817_1532195259.1608140587923" References: <837896638.1438818.1608140587925.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17278 aolwebmail Mozilla/5.0 (X11; CrOS x86_64 13597.23.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/88.0.4324.37 Safari/537.36 Content-Length: 6583 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.187.32; envelope-from=idirectscm@aim.com; helo=sonic308-9.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Mark Harig Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) ------=_Part_1438817_1532195259.1608140587923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emacs Maintainers, =C2=A0 The following two issues concerning Query Replace were found in GNU Emacs version 27.1, started with 'emacs -Q': 1. It appears that it is not possible to display the options available when using `query-replace' (M-%). According to the Emacs manual at (emacs)Query Replace: ---- =E2=80=98C-h=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98?=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98=E2=80=99 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 to display a message summarizing these options.=C2=A0 Then yo= u must type =C2=A0 =C2=A0 another character to specify what to do with this occurrence. ---- =C2=A0 Yet when any of these three keys are pressed after the "Query replace: " prompt is displayed in the minibuffer, there is no *Help* buffer displayed.=C2=A0 Based on the text in the manual, above, shouldn't we expect to see a help buffer displayed with a summary of the keybindings for `query-replace'? =C2=A0 A cursory look inside replace.el shows that it has the DEFCONST `query-replace-help' defined to provide the information that is described in the Emacs manual, but this function is not being called when one of the keys C-h, [F1], or ? is pressed. 2. The DEFCONST `query-replace-help' describes 'E' (upper-case e) as: ---- E to edit the replacement string. ---- But the Emacs manual at (emacs)Query Replace describes 'e' (lower-case e) as: ---- `e' =C2=A0 =C2=A0 to edit the replacement string in the minibuffer.=C2=A0 When = you exit =C2=A0 =C2=A0 the minibuffer by typing , the minibuffer contents repla= ce the =C2=A0 =C2=A0 current occurrence of the pattern.=C2=A0 They also become the= new =C2=A0 =C2=A0 replacement string for any further occurrences. ---- In replace.el, the DEFVAR `query-replace-map' has both e and E mapped to `edit-replacement'.=C2=A0 So both keys should work, but neither the help text nor the info manual document thatboth keys can be= used. Note: The following search did not find the above issues inthe GNU Bug Trac= ker: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?include=3Dsubject%3Aquery-replace= ;package=3Demacs --=C2=A0 ------=_Part_1438817_1532195259.1608140587923 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Emacs Maintainers,

  The following two issues concerning Query Replace w= ere
found in GNU Emacs version 27.1, started with 'emacs -Q':<= br>

1. It appears that it is not possible to display the optio= ns
available when using `query-replace' (M-%).

According to the Emacs manual at (emacs)Query Replace:

----
=E2=80=98C-h=E2=80=99
=E2=80=98?=E2=80=99
=E2=80=98<F1>=E2=80=99
    to display a message summarizing these optio= ns.  Then you must type
    another character to specify what to do with= this occurrence.
----

  Yet when any of these three keys are pressed after = the
"Query replace: " prompt is displayed in the minibuffer,
there is no *Help* buffer displayed.  Based on the te= xt in
the manual, above, shouldn't we expect to see a help buffe= r
displayed with a summary of the keybindings for
`query-replace'?

  A cursory look inside replace.el shows that it has = the
DEFCONST `query-replace-help' defined to provide the
information that is described in the Emacs manual, but thi= s
function is not being called when one of the keys C-h, [F1= ],
or ? is pressed.


2. The DEFCONST `query-replace-help' describes 'E' (upper-= case
e) as:

----
E to edit the replacement string.
----

But the Emacs manual at (emacs)Query Replace describes 'e'=
(lower-case e) as:

----
`e'
    to edit the replacement string in the minibu= ffer.  When you exit
    the minibuffer by typing <RET>, the mi= nibuffer contents replace the
    current occurrence of the pattern.  The= y also become the new
    replacement string for any further occurrenc= es.
----

In replace.el, the DEFVAR `query-replace-map' has both e a= nd
E mapped to `edit-replacement'.  So both keys should = work,
but neither the help text nor the info manual document tha= t
both keys can be used.

<= /div>

Note: The following search did not find the above issues i= n
the GNU Bug Tracker:

https://debbugs.gnu.= org/cgi/pkgreport.cgi?include=3Dsubject%3Aquery-replace;package=3Demacs

-- 

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Then you must type > another character to specify what to do with this occurrence. This citation is incomplete: you've taken one item from a long list of characters one can type, and that list begins with this text: The characters you can type when you are shown a match for the string or regexp are: So the Help character will work if you type it after you already provided the string to replace and its replacement, and Emacs shows you the first match -- which is when this help is relevant. You don't need this help earlier because none of those characters can be used before the first match is found. > 2. The DEFCONST `query-replace-help' describes 'E' (upper-case > e) as: > > ---- > E to edit the replacement string. > ---- > > But the Emacs manual at (emacs)Query Replace describes 'e' > (lower-case e) as: > > ---- > `e' > to edit the replacement string in the minibuffer. When you exit > the minibuffer by typing , the minibuffer contents replace the > current occurrence of the pattern. They also become the new > replacement string for any further occurrences. I added 'E' to the text in the manual on the emacs-27 branch. With that, I'm closing this bug report. Thanks. 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mark Harig Cc: 45273-done@debbugs.gnu.org Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2020 2:15 pm Subject: Re: bug#45273: 27.1: Cannot display options help text for query-re= place > This citation is incomplete: you've taken one item from a long list of > characters one can type, and that list begins with this text: =C2=A0>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The characters you can type when you are shown a match= for the string =C2=A0>=C2=A0 or regexp are: > So the Help character will work if you type it after you already > provided the string to replace and its replacement, and Emacs shows > you the first match -- which is when this help is relevant.=C2=A0 You don= 't > need this help earlier because none of those characters can be used > before the first match is found. Agreed.=C2=A0 I had mistakenly and too quickly assumed that the behavior=C2= =A0would be the same=C2=A0as it is for C-s (isearch-forward). > I added 'E' to the text in the manual on the emacs-27 branch. > > With that, I'm closing this bug report.=C2=A0 Thanks. Thank you. --=C2=A0 ------=_Part_1496334_960237686.1608148796929 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Mark Harig <idirectscm@aim.com>
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Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2020 2:15 pm
Subject: Re: bug#45273: 27.1: Cannot display options help text for query-replace

> This citation is incomplete: you've taken one item from a long list of
> characters one can type, and that list begins with this text:

 >    The characters you can type when you are shown a match for the string
 >  or regexp are:

> So the Help character will work if you type it after you already
> provided the string to replace and its replacement, and Emacs shows
> you the first match -- which is when this help is relevant.  You don't
> need this help earlier because none of those characters can be used
> before the first match is found.

Agreed.  I had mistakenly and too quickly assumed that the behavior 
would be the same as it is for C-s (isearch-forward).

> I added 'E' to the text in the manual on the emacs-27 branch.
>
> With that, I'm closing this bug report.  Thanks.

Thank you.

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