From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 23:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 45109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 45109@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.160738423922199 (code B ref -1); Mon, 07 Dec 2020 23:38:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2020 23:37:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55879 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ4F-0005lz-Gq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:19 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:51298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ4D-0005lq-11 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ4C-0004rR-Bc for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:16 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:52328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ49-0005mS-08 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:15 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ3w-0003jU-IA; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:00 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:36:10 -0500 Message-ID: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov 2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME. That's a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant. In more detail: To configure the alert sound, I first open GNOME Settings by clicking on the gear icon in the pull-down menu on the right side of GNOME Shell's top bar. From there, I navigate to the "Sound" section and scroll to the bottom of that section, where I'm given a choice of 4 options for the "Alert Sound". For as long as I can remember, and even today, this pane *does* remember my preferred Alert Sound (sonar), and correctly highlights it as my selected choice. However, the default "drip" sound is the one that is actually used by applications, e.g. by GNOME Terminal and Emacs. Note that even before the recent staging merge, periodically (maybe once a week or so), I would log in and find that the dreaded "drip" sound was being used as my alert sound. Each time, I was able to fix it by going back to the Sound section of GNOME Settings, and clicking again on my preferred alert sound (although it was already selected as my configured alert sound). Now, since the recent staging merge, that no longer works. If anyone can suggest a way to successfully change my alert sound, I would be grateful. Mark From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Resent-From: Marius Bakke Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 00:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mark H Weaver , 45109@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45109.160738692126360 (code B ref 45109); Tue, 08 Dec 2020 00:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 45109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 00:22:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55913 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQlV-0006qv-Db for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 19:22:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQlQ-0006qX-PH for 45109@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 19:22:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:39828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQlJ-0004NN-9O; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 19:21:51 -0500 Received: from host-37-191-236-253.lynet.no ([37.191.236.253]:52622 helo=localhost) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQlI-0004ME-83; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 19:21:48 -0500 From: Marius Bakke In-Reply-To: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> References: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 01:21:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Mark H Weaver skriver: > Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov > 2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME. That's > a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant. There were not a lot of GNOME-related changes in that merge. From a quick glance of... git shortlog --format='%h %s' --no-merges -n fe5c9051cc..e827f40479 ...a likely culprit is: 62df18d305 gnu: dconf: Update to 0.36.0. Can you check if reverting it makes a difference? --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQFDBAEBCgAtFiEEu7At3yzq9qgNHeZDoqBt8qM6VPoFAl/OxxkPHG1hcml1c0Bn bnUub3JnAAoJEKKgbfKjOlT62BIH/jDCOrFN35vDpnHW/iWbjpKpKa6jfoBrQ1Wd rA+Rh2G3JrX2IExiIxJbW3mFVQ/BtSIPzl/FMTbDkR6z022oeJVI4/NMDWcNwyEP 8pcw2V+vWKabYWpNpT9iDvwSIJfHMjQ+L5KaxyZEi0oc0XsWFarNj5et7nbw5tZJ mWRsEO8vq6RHzZQWp0nPVZF9ClL40WUxU/Xz6kQlWVWHUrzrRKoIO5kmhVRjMupU /2qvsfowrk0VAq+eaSDsrEhu5M3YR0tSl+Co54GCt9USDKgv15aih69Hbnccp0zK 5VO8Faa2KAatsdJ+ifFtpBTwuVTYdKf4M3k48jeWobILbOp+QA4= =f1E/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Resent-From: Bengt Richter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mark H Weaver Cc: 45109@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Bengt Richter Received: via spool by 45109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45109.160741678817615 (code B ref 45109); Tue, 08 Dec 2020 08:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 45109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 08:39:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56518 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmYXD-0004a2-Nl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 03:39:48 -0500 Received: from imta-37.everyone.net ([216.200.145.37]:40476 helo=imta-38.everyone.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmYXB-0004Zh-9p for 45109@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 03:39:46 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 0B88dXoP015429; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:39:44 -0800 X-Eon-Originating-Account: HoG2G4jfKzL7hCQ6UxR-ec-AAdZ7zRne3ozrgClM5hU X-Eon-Dm: m0117124.ppops.net Received: by m0117124.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 5a81d273) id m0117124.5f8a0284.9f4275; Tue, 8 Dec 2020 00:39:41 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJfzzvN20OIGgIAAAAC,0f7ac81d9eeb7df4b08f54f7aab1b138 X-Eip: OBZaZ-W56Y3kmNFUnd0A2LDVXB3XhhZeVvrtZ8078yY Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 09:39:27 +0100 From: Bengt Richter Message-ID: <20201208083927.GA16114@LionPure> References: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-12-08_03:2020-12-04, 2020-12-08 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1034 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2012080054 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Hi Mark, On +2020-12-07 18:36:10 -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov > 2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME. That's > a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant. > I find it annoying too -- thanks for nudging me to change it ;) It looks like a brute force "fix" -- while waiting for a proper one -- would be to substitute another ogg file for drip.ogg. (or just switch the names on drip.ogg and sonar.ogg, if you don't want to fiddle further). $ find /usr -iname '*drip*' /usr/include/X11/dri/xf86driproto.h /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg /usr/share/pkgconfig/xf86driproto.pc /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/environment/DrippingFaucet.png ]$ file /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/* /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 48000 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0) /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/drip.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0) /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/glass.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0) /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/sonar.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I (1.2.0) > In more detail: > > To configure the alert sound, I first open GNOME Settings by clicking on > the gear icon in the pull-down menu on the right side of GNOME Shell's > top bar. From there, I navigate to the "Sound" section and scroll to > the bottom of that section, where I'm given a choice of 4 options for > the "Alert Sound". > To find where a change of alert sound is stored, a script of mine will touch a file (~/.wha-time) for later use with find, to find files in a directory tree modified (-c option) since ~/.wha-time). So I did "wha -t" to do the touch, chose a new sound in settings, exited, and then "wha -c ~/" resulted in the following (it echoes the find command just before doing it): --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- find /home/bokr/ -cnewer /home/bokr/.wha-time -print0 | xargs -0 ls -ladc --time-style=+%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S drwx------ 2 bokr bokr 4096 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/babl -rw-r--r-- 1 bokr bokr 495 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/babl/babl-fishes drwx------ 2 bokr bokr 4096 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/libgweather -rw-r--r-- 1 bokr bokr 687 2020-12-08 07:52:13 /home/bokr/.cache/libgweather/soup.cache2 drwxr-xr-x 2 bokr bokr 4096 2020-12-08 07:52:15 /home/bokr/.config/dconf -rw-r--r-- 1 bokr bokr 33852 2020-12-08 07:52:15 /home/bokr/.config/dconf/user drwx------ 32 bokr bokr 4096 2020-12-08 07:52:25 /home/bokr/.local/share drwxr-x--- 5 bokr bokr 4096 2020-12-08 07:52:12 /home/bokr/.local/share/epiphany -rw-r--r-- 1 bokr bokr 941 2020-12-08 07:52:12 /home/bokr/.local/share/epiphany/bookmarks.gvdb -rw-r--r-- 1 bokr bokr 32768 2020-12-08 07:52:15 /home/bokr/.local/share/gvfs-metadata/home-776cc71e.log -rw------- 1 bokr bokr 115799 2020-12-08 07:52:25 /home/bokr/.local/share/recently-used.xbel drwx------ 2 bokr bokr 4096 2020-12-08 07:52:39 /home/bokr/.local/share/sounds/__custom lrwxrwxrwx 1 bokr bokr 47 2020-12-08 07:52:39 /home/bokr/.local/share/sounds/__custom/bell-terminal.ogg -> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg lrwxrwxrwx 1 bokr bokr 47 2020-12-08 07:52:39 /home/bokr/.local/share/sounds/__custom/bell-window-system.ogg -> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/bark.ogg --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Apparently my selection of "bark" is stored as links in ~/.local/share/sounds/__custom/ Perhaps this is a change of preference persistence method that all parts of your system have not gotten updated to? > For as long as I can remember, and even today, this pane *does* remember > my preferred Alert Sound (sonar), and correctly highlights it as my > selected choice. However, the default "drip" sound is the one that is > actually used by applications, e.g. by GNOME Terminal and Emacs. > > Note that even before the recent staging merge, periodically (maybe once > a week or so), I would log in and find that the dreaded "drip" sound was > being used as my alert sound. Each time, I was able to fix it by going > back to the Sound section of GNOME Settings, and clicking again on my > preferred alert sound (although it was already selected as my configured > alert sound). Now, since the recent staging merge, that no longer > works. > > If anyone can suggest a way to successfully change my alert sound, I > would be grateful. > > Mark You could just make all 4 files dupes of sonar.ogg ;)) I am afraid that kind of "fix" becomes more and more tempting ;/ I still don't know what the proper fix for your observed prolem is, sorry. But HTH :) -- Regards, Bengt Richter From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Mark H Weaver Subject: bug#45109: closed (Re: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge) Message-ID: References: <87o8j3ygan.fsf@netris.org> <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 45109 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 45109@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 00:29:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1607473742-24433-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1607473742-24433-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 45109@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 45109: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D45109 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1607473742-24433-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 45109-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 00:28:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60277 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmnL5-0006L2-Nf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 19:28:15 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:45580) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmnL3-0006Kp-GL for 45109-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 19:28:14 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmnKx-0004Jk-Px; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 19:28:07 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver To: Marius Bakke , 45109-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge In-Reply-To: <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 19:27:17 -0500 Message-ID: <87o8j3ygan.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 45109-done Cc: Bengt Richter X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Marius and Bengt, Thanks very much for your suggestions. I initially tried Marius's idea to revert the dconf update, which seemed to work, but now I find that I'm unable to reproduce the problem, even with my original post-staging-merge system where I first encountered it. I'm not sure what happened here, but I'm closing this bug. Sorry for the noise. Mark ------------=_1607473742-24433-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2020 23:37:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55879 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ4F-0005lz-Gq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:19 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:51298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ4D-0005lq-11 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50674) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ4C-0004rR-Bc for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:16 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:52328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ49-0005mS-08 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:15 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmQ3w-0003jU-IA; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:37:00 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver To: bug-guix@gnu.org Subject: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 18:36:10 -0500 Message-ID: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov 2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME. That's a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant. In more detail: To configure the alert sound, I first open GNOME Settings by clicking on the gear icon in the pull-down menu on the right side of GNOME Shell's top bar. From there, I navigate to the "Sound" section and scroll to the bottom of that section, where I'm given a choice of 4 options for the "Alert Sound". For as long as I can remember, and even today, this pane *does* remember my preferred Alert Sound (sonar), and correctly highlights it as my selected choice. However, the default "drip" sound is the one that is actually used by applications, e.g. by GNOME Terminal and Emacs. Note that even before the recent staging merge, periodically (maybe once a week or so), I would log in and find that the dreaded "drip" sound was being used as my alert sound. Each time, I was able to fix it by going back to the Sound section of GNOME Settings, and clicking again on my preferred alert sound (although it was already selected as my configured alert sound). Now, since the recent staging merge, that no longer works. If anyone can suggest a way to successfully change my alert sound, I would be grateful. Mark ------------=_1607473742-24433-1-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Marius Bakke , 45109@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Bengt Richter Received: via spool by 45109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45109.16079911697360 (code B ref 45109); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 00:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 45109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 00:12:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54884 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koxxR-0001ue-FB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:12:49 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:35638) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1koxxP-0001uQ-FT for 45109@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:12:47 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1koxxJ-0005RI-FO; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:12:41 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <87o8j3ygan.fsf@netris.org> References: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8j3ygan.fsf@netris.org> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 19:11:51 -0500 Message-ID: <87lfe0nd0d.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) reopen 45109 thanks Earlier, I wrote: > I initially tried Marius's idea to revert the dconf update, which > seemed to work, but now I find that I'm unable to reproduce the > problem, even with my original post-staging-merge system where I first > encountered it. I spoke too soon. Now the problem is happening again, after another system upgrade and reboot. I don't have time right now to investigate further, but I'm reopening the bug. Thanks, Mark From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Resent-From: Bengt Richter Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 14:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mark H Weaver Cc: 45109@debbugs.gnu.org, Marius Bakke Reply-To: Bengt Richter Received: via spool by 45109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45109.160821368211654 (code B ref 45109); Thu, 17 Dec 2020 14:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 45109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2020 14:01:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35103 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kptqM-00031u-34 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:01:22 -0500 Received: from imta-37.everyone.net ([216.200.145.37]:44056 helo=imta-38.everyone.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kptqJ-00031f-Tk for 45109@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 09:01:20 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 0BHDxJxt030689; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:01:17 -0800 X-Eon-Originating-Account: UOtbnJ2DTt1zTJEJ_sWKZ82hh9KKhxjtJxwv-acI2aQ X-Eon-Dm: m0116293.ppops.net Received: by m0116293.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 5a81ddd6) id m0116293.5f8a0270.9acd47; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:01:14 -0800 X-Eon-Sig: AQMHrIJf22SqVNhtIwIAAAAD,7bfb8828fb7b4f6984cfa8255a2dcc32 X-Eip: BOupj4zDsTVk3PUixU08QO-_sQxqxy3UMVkzxAhbkjE Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 15:01:04 +0100 From: Bengt Richter Message-ID: <20201217140104.GA7201@LionPure> References: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8j3ygan.fsf@netris.org> <87lfe0nd0d.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87lfe0nd0d.fsf@netris.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-12-17_09:2020-12-15, 2020-12-17 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 suspectscore=0 impostorscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1034 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2012170099 X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) Hi Mark, and who may be interested, On +2020-12-14 19:11:51 -0500, Mark H Weaver wrote: > reopen 45109 > thanks > > Earlier, I wrote: > > I initially tried Marius's idea to revert the dconf update, which > > seemed to work, but now I find that I'm unable to reproduce the > > problem, even with my original post-staging-merge system where I first > > encountered it. > > I spoke too soon. Now the problem is happening again, after another > system upgrade and reboot. I don't have time right now to investigate > further, but I'm reopening the bug. > > Thanks, > Mark The same happened again to me -- i.e., my alert sound preference got reset. This was after a pureos (debian based) update. uname -a =-> Linux LionPure 4.19.0-13-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.160-2 (2020-11-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux man 7 dconf =-> mentions that gsettings wraps unstable api gconf, so I poked a little, but no time right now. HTH someone else go further :) --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ gsettings list-recursively |egrep 'sound|beep' org.gnome.desktop.sound input-feedback-sounds false org.gnome.desktop.sound theme-name '__custom' org.gnome.desktop.sound allow-volume-above-100-percent false org.gnome.desktop.sound event-sounds true org.gnome.rhythmbox.plugins seen-plugins ['fmradio', 'mpris', 'daap', 'rb', 'artsearch', 'replaygain', 'webremote', 'lyrics', 'dbus-media-server', 'im-status', 'rblirc', 'notification', 'grilo', 'audioscrobbler', 'soundcloud', 'sendto', 'mtpdevice', 'pythonconsole', 'ipod', 'magnatune'] org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard slowkeys-beep-press false org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard bouncekeys-beep-reject false org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard slowkeys-beep-reject false org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard feature-state-change-beep false org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard slowkeys-beep-accept false org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard stickykeys-modifier-beep false --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- As you recall from previously (here I've re-selected sonar.ogg :), --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- $ find ~/ -name '*__custom*' /home/bokr/.local/share/sounds/__custom $ find ~/ -name '*__custom*'|xargs ls -l total 4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 bokr bokr 48 Dec 17 08:52 bell-terminal.ogg -> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/sonar.ogg lrwxrwxrwx 1 bokr bokr 48 Dec 17 08:52 bell-window-system.ogg -> /usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/alerts/sonar.ogg -rw-r--r-- 1 bokr bokr 61 Dec 10 12:11 index.theme --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- BTW, do you or anyone know if there is a CRUD[1]-log that can be enabled, to log *EVERY* CRUD change to any persistent storage during system (debian in this case) updates? That can't be a new idea ;) (Maybe it's hard in the context of something signed that runs privileged to do updates before rebooting to grub? ) Also, is there a standard policy somewhere for preserving/migrating content state when installing a replacement storage box for the content? If it is too much work to write migration code when storage internals or apis change, couldn't it just be policy to mark the old box as box.old_NNN instead of deleting/overwiting it, and emit (and log) a simple hint? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Create,_read,_update_and_delete -- Regards, Bengt Richter From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 00:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Marius Bakke , 45109@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45109.161507652227405 (code B ref 45109); Sun, 07 Mar 2021 00:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 45109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2021 00:22:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38574 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIhBK-00077x-KL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:22:02 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:53182) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIhBJ-00077T-Ar for 45109@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:22:01 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lIhBB-0005wO-Pt; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:21:53 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 19:20:27 -0500 Message-ID: <874khn24rd.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Marius, Marius Bakke writes: > Mark H Weaver skriver: > >> Since the recent merge of the 'staging' branch into 'master' on 28 Nov >> 2020, I'm no longer able to configure the alert sound in GNOME. That's >> a pity, since I find the default "drip" sound extremely unpleasant. > > There were not a lot of GNOME-related changes in that merge. From a > quick glance of... > > git shortlog --format='%h %s' --no-merges -n fe5c9051cc..e827f40479 > > ...a likely culprit is: > > 62df18d305 gnu: dconf: Update to 0.36.0. > > Can you check if reverting it makes a difference? Reverting that update does seem to have fixed the problem. I've been running my Guix system with dconf-0.34 since you made this suggestion last December, and the problem where I'm *unable* to change my GNOME alert sound has never happened since. (It still occasionally resets to the default "drip" alert sound, as I noted in my original report, but at least I can change it back easily). I will soon switch back to dconf-0.36 to see if the problem returns. Thanks, Mark From unknown Sun Jun 22 04:04:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45109: GNOME: unable to change alert "beep" sound since staging merge Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45109 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Marius Bakke , 45109@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 45109-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45109.16154621441383 (code B ref 45109); Thu, 11 Mar 2021 11:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 45109) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2021 11:29:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52691 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKJV2-0000MF-Ia for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 06:29:04 -0500 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:36108) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lKJV1-0000Lk-B6 for 45109@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 06:29:03 -0500 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lKJUv-0007fQ-Jr; Thu, 11 Mar 2021 06:28:57 -0500 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <874khn24rd.fsf@netris.org> References: <87ft4hdw8q.fsf@netris.org> <87k0tt406e.fsf@gnu.org> <874khn24rd.fsf@netris.org> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 06:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <8735x2vsjm.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Earlier, I wrote: > I will soon switch back to dconf-0.36 to see if the problem returns. Shortly after switching back to dconf-0.36, the problem has indeed returned. So, in summary, the problem has *never* happened to me with dconf-0.34, but happens quite frequently with dconf-0.36. Mark