From unknown Sat Jun 14 14:29:49 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#45088: 28.0.50; gnu-elpa package better not to nag users repeatedly Resent-From: Jean Louis Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2020 22:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 45088 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 45088@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.160729542630139 (code B ref -1); Sun, 06 Dec 2020 22:58:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2020 22:57:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51677 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1km2xm-0007q3-AY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 17:57:06 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39672) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1km2xk-0007pw-Ka for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 17:57:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1km2xi-0001Q1-Ui for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 17:57:04 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:33683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1km2xg-0002t5-HW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 17:57:02 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.57]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0007.000000005FCD61B9.00003A68; Sun, 06 Dec 2020 22:56:57 +0000 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 01:56:54 +0300 From: Jean Louis MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=support1@rcdrun.com; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 17 X-Spam_score: 1.7 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 2.4 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > I think that gnu-elpa package that asks users to install some > complimentary packages should not do that by default. Let users decide > to activate such nagging or warn them. > > I said already no, [...] Content analysis details: (2.4 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [197.157.0.57 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] 0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom; id=support1%40rcdrun.com; ip=209.51.188.17; r=debbugs.gnu.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > I think that gnu-elpa package that asks users to install some > complimentary packages should not do that by default. Let users decide > to activate such nagging or warn them. > > I said already no, [...] Content analysis details: (1.4 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [197.157.0.57 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.9 SPF_FAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=mfrom;id=support1%40rcdrun.com;ip=209.51.188.17;r=debbugs.gnu.org] -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record 0.2 HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS From and EnvelopeFrom 2nd level mail domains are different -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders > I think that gnu-elpa package that asks users to install some > complimentary packages should not do that by default. Let users decide > to activate such nagging or warn them. > > I said already no, then even in Org file it asks me to install > sql-indent. I do not need SQL indent and never needed it. This gives > you user experience for your further design of the package. I just > found it is this package asking me. You're right, it should try and remember which packages the user has already "rejected". Could you make a bug report for it, so we don't forget? Stefan In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.14.8, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2020-11-25 built on protected.rcdrun.com Repository revision: 30c437752df0a3a9410f1249fa0f237110811af2 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11907000 System Description: Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/package/text/emacs --with-modules --with-x-toolkit=lucid' Configured features: XAW3D XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS LUCID X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=exwm-xim locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: hpath:find-file-urls-mode: t timeclock-mode-line-display: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t save-place-mode: t immortal-scratch-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t display-time-mode: t display-battery-mode: t helm-ff-cache-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t async-bytecomp-package-mode: t persistent-scratch-autosave-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Thanks, Jean Louis ⎔ λ 🄯 𝍄 𝌡 𝌚