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I discovered a code that crashes native-comp feature. elisp code: (setq ) The crash on macOS: https://gist.github.com/catap/2264207f0cc4b2c196221eff688a50d3 My local git root: 6523b8401519a29ca0aefaf44c3dfa36f681f64e In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin20.1.0, NS = appkit-2022.10 Version 11.0.1 (Build 20B50)) of 2020-11-30 built on MacBook-Pro.sa31-cbt.catap.net Repository revision: 949b49cf771e8f38b23adb3fa4f9d7a9a5e290da Repository branch: HEAD Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.2022 System Description: macOS 11.0.1 Configured using: 'configure --prefix=3D/opt/local --disable-silent-rules --without-dbus --without-gconf --without-libotf --without-m17n-flt --with-gmp --with-gnutls --with-json --with-xml2 --with-modules --infodir /opt/local/share/info/emacs --with-ns --with-lcms2 --without-harfbuzz --without-imagemagick --without-xaw3d --with-nativecomp --with-rsvg --with-xwidgets 'CFLAGS=3D-pipe -Os -isysroot/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX11.0.sdk -arch x86_64' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-I/opt/local/include -isysroot/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX11.0.sdk' 'LDFLAGS=3D-L/opt/local/lib -Wl,-headerpad_max_install_names -Wl,-no_pie -Wl,-syslibroot,/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX11.0.sdk -arch x86_64'' Configured features: JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG GLIB NOTIFY KQUEUE ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XIM NS MODULES NATIVE_COMP THREADS XWIDGETS JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8 value of $LC_CTYPE: UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8 Major mode: Elisp Minor modes in effect: straight-use-package-mode: t eros-mode: t highlight-quoted-mode: t rainbow-delimiters-mode: t highlight-numbers-mode: t diff-hl-margin-mode: t whitespace-mode: t flycheck-popup-tip-mode: t flyspell-lazy-mode: t flyspell-mode: t display-fill-column-indicator-mode: t vi-tilde-fringe-mode: t display-line-numbers-mode: t highlight-indent-guides-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t hl-line-mode: t winner-mode: t show-paren-mode: t smartparens-global-mode: t smartparens-mode: t ws-butler-global-mode: t ws-butler-mode: t global-emojify-mode: t emojify-mode: t global-undo-fu-session-mode: t undo-fu-session-mode: t undo-fu-mode: t global-flycheck-mode: t flycheck-mode: t save-place-mode: t global-so-long-mode: t gcmh-mode: t which-key-mode: t better-jumper-mode: t better-jumper-local-mode: t global-company-mode: t company-mode: t ivy-rich-mode: t ivy-mode: t volatile-highlights-mode: t hl-todo-mode: t outline-minor-mode: t global-git-commit-mode: t async-bytecomp-package-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t yas-minor-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t solaire-global-mode: t solaire-mode: t doom-modeline-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t projectile-mode: t ns-auto-titlebar-mode: t +popup-mode: t general-override-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t window-divider-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort emacsbug sendmail image-file image-converter cdlatex texmathp org-element avl-tree ol-eww ol-rmail ol-mhe ol-irc ol-info ol-gnus nnselect gnus-search eieio-opt speedbar ezimage dframe gnus-art mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime smime dig gnus-sum shr kinsoku svg dom gnus-group gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-dbus dbus xml gnus-cloud nnimap nnmail mail-source utf7 netrc nnoo gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-range gnus-win gnus nnheader ol-docview doc-view image-mode exif ol-bibtex bibtex ol-bbdb ol-w3m overseer pkg-info epl core-cli finder-inf use-package-autoloads bind-key-autoloads straight-autoloads straight info autoload radix-tree lisp-mnt flycheck-cask eros highlight-quoted footnote tabify dabbrev company-files rainbow-delimiters highlight-numbers parent-mode company-shell sh-script smie executable osx-trash dired-aux diredfl dired-x amx mail-extr flyspell-correct-ivy flyspell-correct company-ispell company-yasnippet diff-hl-flydiff vc-mtn vc-hg vc-bzr vc-src vc-sccs vc-svn vc-cvs vc-rcs bug-reference diff-hl-margin diff-hl-dired diff-hl vc-dir ewoc vc vc-dispatcher goto-addr hide-mode-line magit-extras magit-gitflow company-dabbrev misearch multi-isearch anzu git-gutter-fringe fringe-helper git-gutter vc-git jka-compr auto-minor-mode disp-table whitespace flycheck-popup-tip popup flyspell-lazy flyspell ispell writegood-mode display-fill-column-indicator vi-tilde-fringe display-line-numbers highlight-indent-guides smartparens-markdown markdown-mode edit-indirect hl-line winner paren smartparens-config smartparens-org smartparens-text smartparens ws-butler mm-archive network-stream url-cache emojify apropos tar-mode arc-mode archive-mode ht undo-fu-session undo-fu flycheck saveplace so-long counsel-projectile cursor-sensor ffap tramp tramp-loaddefs trampver tramp-integration files-x tramp-compat parse-time iso8601 ls-lisp gcmh which-key better-jumper company-capf company etags fileloop generator ivy-xref ivy-avy avy ivy-rich counsel xdg swiper ivy ivy-faces ivy-overlay colir color xref project volatile-highlights magit-todos pcre2el rxt re-builder hl-todo org ob ob-tangle ob-ref ob-lob ob-table ob-exp org-macro org-footnote org-src ob-comint org-pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities noutline outline org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob-core ob-eval org-table ol org-keys org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs find-func cal-menu calendar cal-loaddefs github-review ghub-graphql treepy gsexp ghub url-http url-gw nsm url-auth let-alist gnutls deferred a magit-autoloads magit-submodule magit-obsolete magit-popup magit-blame magit-stash magit-reflog magit-bisect magit-push magit-pull magit-fetch magit-clone magit-remote magit-commit magit-sequence magit-notes magit-worktree magit-tag magit-merge magit-branch magit-reset magit-files magit-refs magit-status magit magit-repos magit-apply magit-wip magit-log which-func imenu magit-diff smerge-mode diff diff-mode magit-core magit-autorevert magit-margin magit-transient magit-process magit-mode lv core-packages package browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util mailcap url-handlers url-parse url-vars git-commit transient format-spec magit-git magit-section magit-utils crm log-edit message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec epa epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs auth-source password-cache json map time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 mm-util ietf-drums mail-prsvr mailabbrev mail-utils gmm-utils mailheader pcvs-util add-log with-editor async-bytecomp async shell pcomplete doom-snippets doom-snippets-lib yasnippet elisp-mode savehist recentf tree-widget wid-edit face-remap server autorevert filenotify persistent-soft list-utils pcache eieio-compat eieio-base eieio eieio-core eieio-loaddefs font-utils unicode-fonts doom-themes-ext-org doom-themes-ext-treemacs solaire-mode doom-one-theme doom-themes doom-themes-base desktop frameset dtrt-indent advice doom-modeline doom-modeline-segments doom-modeline-env doom-modeline-core shrink-path f s all-the-icons all-the-icons-faces data-material data-weathericons data-octicons data-fileicons data-faicons data-alltheicons memoize dash delsel projectile grep compile text-property-search comint ansi-color ring ibuf-ext ibuffer ibuffer-loaddefs thingatpt smartparens-lua ns-auto-titlebar derived core-editor core-projects core-ui edmacro kmacro easy-mmode comp comp-cstr warnings rx core-keybinds pp general cl-extra help-mode easymenu cl-seq use-package-core core-modules cl tex-site core core-lib cl-macs cl-loaddefs cl-lib subr-x chemacs seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/ns-win ns-win ucs-normalize mule-util term/common-win tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice button loaddefs faces cus-face pcase macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads xwidget-internal kqueue cocoa ns lcms2 multi-tty make-network-process nativecomp emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 909897 176803) (symbols 48 51158 1) (strings 32 243753 34131) (string-bytes 1 8560662) (vectors 16 123138) (vector-slots 8 4454125 189790) (floats 8 1491 1811) (intervals 56 11555 5064) (buffers 984 53)) -- wbr, Kirill --Apple-Mail=_9355BFDB-7B66-47CF-A94C-6A03D9C39C6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Good = day!

I discovered a code that crashes = native-comp feature.

elisp code:

(setq )

The crash = on macOS:
https://gist.github.com/catap/2264207f0cc4b2c196221eff688a50d3<= /a>

My local git root: = 6523b8401519a29ca0aefaf44c3dfa36f681f64e

In = GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin20.1.0, NS appkit-2022.10 = Version 11.0.1 (Build 20B50))
of 2020-11-30 built on = MacBook-Pro.sa31-cbt.catap.net
Repository revision: = 949b49cf771e8f38b23adb3fa4f9d7a9a5e290da
Repository = branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version = 10.3.2022
System Description:  macOS 11.0.1

Configured using:
'configure = --prefix=3D/opt/local --disable-silent-rules --without-dbus
= --without-gconf --without-libotf --without-m17n-flt --with-gmp
--with-gnutls --with-json --with-xml2 --with-modules = --infodir
/opt/local/share/info/emacs --with-ns = --with-lcms2 --without-harfbuzz
--without-imagemagick = --without-xaw3d --with-nativecomp --with-rsvg
= --with-xwidgets 'CFLAGS=3D-pipe -Os
= -isysroot/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX11.0.sdk = -arch
x86_64' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-I/opt/local/include
= -isysroot/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX11.0.sdk'
'LDFLAGS=3D-L/opt/local/lib -Wl,-headerpad_max_install_names = -Wl,-no_pie
= -Wl,-syslibroot,/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools/SDKs/MacOSX11.0.sdk -arch x86_64''

Configured = features:
JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG GLIB NOTIFY KQUEUE ACL = GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XIM NS MODULES = NATIVE_COMP THREADS XWIDGETS JSON
PDUMPER LCMS2

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: = en_US.UTF-8
  value of $LC_CTYPE: = UTF-8
  = value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: = utf-8

Major mode: Elisp

Minor modes in effect:
  straight-use-package-mode: = t
  = eros-mode: t
  highlight-quoted-mode: = t
  = rainbow-delimiters-mode: t
  highlight-numbers-mode: = t
  = diff-hl-margin-mode: t
  whitespace-mode: t
  = flycheck-popup-tip-mode: t
  flyspell-lazy-mode: t
  = flyspell-mode: t
  = display-fill-column-indicator-mode: t
  vi-tilde-fringe-mode: t
  = display-line-numbers-mode: t
  = highlight-indent-guides-mode: t
  global-hl-line-mode: t
  = hl-line-mode: t
  winner-mode: t
  = show-paren-mode: t
  smartparens-global-mode: = t
  = smartparens-mode: t
  ws-butler-global-mode: = t
  = ws-butler-mode: t
  global-emojify-mode: t
  = emojify-mode: t
  = global-undo-fu-session-mode: t
  undo-fu-session-mode: t
  = undo-fu-mode: t
  global-flycheck-mode: t
  = flycheck-mode: t
  save-place-mode: t
  = global-so-long-mode: t
  gcmh-mode: t
  = which-key-mode: t
  better-jumper-mode: t
  = better-jumper-local-mode: t
  global-company-mode: t
  = company-mode: t
  ivy-rich-mode: t
  ivy-mode: = t
  = volatile-highlights-mode: t
  hl-todo-mode: t
  = outline-minor-mode: t
  global-git-commit-mode: = t
  = async-bytecomp-package-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  = yas-minor-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  = recentf-mode: t
  solaire-global-mode: t
  = solaire-mode: t
  doom-modeline-mode: t
  = delete-selection-mode: t
  projectile-mode: t
  = ns-auto-titlebar-mode: t
  +popup-mode: t
  = general-override-mode: t
  global-eldoc-mode: t
  = eldoc-mode: t
  electric-indent-mode: t
  = mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: = t
  = global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  = window-divider-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: = t
  = auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: = t
  = size-indication-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  = line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Load-path shadows:
None = found.

Features:
(shadow sort = emacsbug sendmail image-file image-converter cdlatex
texmathp org-element avl-tree ol-eww ol-rmail ol-mhe ol-irc = ol-info
ol-gnus nnselect gnus-search eieio-opt speedbar = ezimage dframe gnus-art
mm-uu mml2015 mm-view mml-smime = smime dig gnus-sum shr kinsoku svg dom
gnus-group = gnus-undo gnus-start gnus-dbus dbus xml gnus-cloud nnimap
nnmail mail-source utf7 netrc nnoo gnus-spec gnus-int = gnus-range
gnus-win gnus nnheader ol-docview doc-view = image-mode exif ol-bibtex
bibtex ol-bbdb ol-w3m overseer = pkg-info epl core-cli finder-inf
use-package-autoloads = bind-key-autoloads straight-autoloads straight
info = autoload radix-tree lisp-mnt flycheck-cask eros highlight-quoted
footnote tabify dabbrev company-files rainbow-delimiters
highlight-numbers parent-mode company-shell sh-script smie = executable
osx-trash dired-aux diredfl dired-x amx = mail-extr flyspell-correct-ivy
flyspell-correct = company-ispell company-yasnippet diff-hl-flydiff vc-mtn
vc-hg vc-bzr vc-src vc-sccs vc-svn vc-cvs vc-rcs = bug-reference
diff-hl-margin diff-hl-dired diff-hl vc-dir = ewoc vc vc-dispatcher
goto-addr hide-mode-line = magit-extras magit-gitflow company-dabbrev
misearch = multi-isearch anzu git-gutter-fringe fringe-helper git-gutter
vc-git jka-compr auto-minor-mode disp-table whitespace
flycheck-popup-tip popup flyspell-lazy flyspell ispell = writegood-mode
display-fill-column-indicator = vi-tilde-fringe display-line-numbers
highlight-indent-guides= smartparens-markdown markdown-mode edit-indirect
hl-line = winner paren smartparens-config smartparens-org smartparens-text
smartparens ws-butler mm-archive network-stream url-cache = emojify
apropos tar-mode arc-mode archive-mode ht = undo-fu-session undo-fu
flycheck saveplace so-long = counsel-projectile cursor-sensor ffap tramp
tramp-loaddefs = trampver tramp-integration files-x tramp-compat
parse-time = iso8601 ls-lisp gcmh which-key better-jumper company-capf
company etags fileloop generator ivy-xref ivy-avy avy = ivy-rich counsel
xdg swiper ivy ivy-faces ivy-overlay = colir color xref project
volatile-highlights magit-todos = pcre2el rxt re-builder hl-todo org ob
ob-tangle ob-ref = ob-lob ob-table ob-exp org-macro org-footnote org-src
ob-comint org-pcomplete org-list org-faces org-entities = noutline outline
org-version ob-emacs-lisp ob-core ob-eval = org-table ol org-keys
org-compat org-macs org-loaddefs = find-func cal-menu calendar
cal-loaddefs github-review = ghub-graphql treepy gsexp ghub url-http
url-gw nsm = url-auth let-alist gnutls deferred a magit-autoloads
magit-submodule magit-obsolete magit-popup magit-blame = magit-stash
magit-reflog magit-bisect magit-push = magit-pull magit-fetch magit-clone
magit-remote = magit-commit magit-sequence magit-notes magit-worktree
magit-tag magit-merge magit-branch magit-reset magit-files = magit-refs
magit-status magit magit-repos magit-apply = magit-wip magit-log
which-func imenu magit-diff = smerge-mode diff diff-mode magit-core
magit-autorevert = magit-margin magit-transient magit-process magit-mode
lv = core-packages package browse-url url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand
url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util = mailcap
url-handlers url-parse url-vars git-commit = transient format-spec
magit-git magit-section magit-utils = crm log-edit message rmc puny dired
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-- 
wbr, Kirill

= --Apple-Mail=_9355BFDB-7B66-47CF-A94C-6A03D9C39C6F-- --Apple-Mail=_1D0E6A16-EF98-4D54-BF74-259902AAAE23 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE3/KLNtcfWfLw7JxqmNjZhndZIm4FAl/HvCsACgkQmNjZhndZ Im4qCQ//VZ6K9flu5B99AoP+BUKiqzPc7PpEUIV5gL/cwCbCJBYRkYa2nS/wlFIK gIsHhApkuzod5cwY25shyLgcNdejrrGkf+fX6DcFgEZTYgwjP8CW+c+zWqTlhHFu 2Ba4flSgV0k16+mOeKUYKFq11TsU3sQi9FKdMmwV1kL9yAEwHtfBPRH6Rqa8OyLe TEqedVpx5+t008NxHNMGHEFXyqIn06Yf+zG3+IbP+5Zb9n/MS0C7gi1BB61S3avu tbwtN0WoBlSm/wzVpzDS1ttpSvXq49xQPLwejEidiBUUEHnlvWtywyweA/ftTBPw E9B6016mrpE/xM6Vzpxh1EpmQjg93CEmDsTVOw8Op9/UsJaOWZNvLuarmwqL6EBd /eBxoPTYCxkJd2dO3JkoTv/jMPC1hvpnjpHrpQkG63UctJR5vvURmTCz5yCh86zw ip9TveGVfRXx5Ohpu1QQ5/ZqjPK1Ka2nbZoQoWSVt+zjVwCcqcewUDvevyoq4m8H zDyx1icEpqDDVsURxgc7ApnlHLZKBzXzu34m0JJmlPRiJINpSpK4fgrbTlhFMb8e ZSTJDOEFQsUne/qDG69MqdkJPxhf/GMGWmcRuu+rKLExBEyJymuRzSQaJbCGS+iv AmHzDkZwsegddw1g6AsgiYpM3HI3g6SVR9BjrI+lJJRHFgtJWzQ= =4bdM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_1D0E6A16-EF98-4D54-BF74-259902AAAE23-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 02 12:29:41 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2020 17:29:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37234 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kkVwj-0004bw-Ln for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 12:29:41 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44976) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kkVwi-0004bp-9P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 12:29:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33722) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkVwg-0008Ik-Eh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 12:29:40 -0500 Received: from mab.sdf.org ([205.166.94.33]:59390 helo=ma.sdf.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkVwa-0000Xa-FI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 12:29:38 -0500 Received: from akrl by ma.sdf.org with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kkVwQ-0006PR-RY; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 17:29:22 +0000 From: Andrea Corallo To: "Kirill A. Korinsky" via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Subject: Re: bug#45010: 28.0.50; feature/native-comp crash References: <886D5582-0A1B-4349-9D93-35D74229FF96@korins.ky> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 17:29:22 +0000 In-Reply-To: <886D5582-0A1B-4349-9D93-35D74229FF96@korins.ky> (Kirill A. Korinsky's message of "Wed, 2 Dec 2020 17:09:15 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.33; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=ma.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: "Kirill A. Korinsky" , 45010@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) "Kirill A. Korinsky" via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > Good day! > > I discovered a code that crashes native-comp feature. > > elisp code: > > (setq ) > > The crash on macOS: > https://gist.github.com/catap/2264207f0cc4b2c196221eff688a50d3 > > My local git root: 6523b8401519a29ca0aefaf44c3dfa36f681f64e Hi Kirill, that's a nice reproducer! :) I can reproduce the crash on 6523b840 but not on the current head (21104e6808). I believe this is a duplicate of bug#44968 and should be what I've fixed yesterday. Wanna have a try with the latest head and confirm? Thanks! 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Korinsky" Subject: Re: bug#45010: 28.0.50; feature/native-comp crash References: <886D5582-0A1B-4349-9D93-35D74229FF96@korins.ky> <7053924E-7F5B-46C7-B66F-AEE22A5CA64B@korins.ky> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 19:11:30 +0000 In-Reply-To: <7053924E-7F5B-46C7-B66F-AEE22A5CA64B@korins.ky> (Kirill A. Korinsky's message of "Wed, 2 Dec 2020 19:44:48 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=205.166.94.33; envelope-from=akrl@sdf.org; helo=ma.sdf.org X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 45010-done@debbugs.gnu.org, "Kirill A. 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Korinsky" via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army > knife of text editors" writes: > >> Good day! >> >> I discovered a code that crashes native-comp feature. >> >> elisp code: >> >> (setq ) >> >> The crash on macOS: >> https://gist.github.com/catap/2264207f0cc4b2c196221eff688a50d3 >> >> My local git root: 6523b8401519a29ca0aefaf44c3dfa36f681f64e > > Hi Kirill, > > that's a nice reproducer! :) > > I can reproduce the crash on 6523b840 but not on the current head > (21104e6808). > > I believe this is a duplicate of bug#44968 and should be what I've fixed > yesterday. > > Wanna have a try with the latest head and confirm? > > Thanks! > > Andrea --Apple-Mail=_DAEE68BD-0B34-41C4-B089-F0442563FB42 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii confirmed!
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