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Small mistake in emacs manual ?

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From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:52:06 +0100

On this web-page

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/PostScript-Variables.html

appears the sentence:

"Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print 
colors on black/white printers."

Shouldn't this be:

"Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print 
black/white on color printers."

Regards,
Thanks for this great editor,
Jon

Message #8 received at 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: jon <at> krom.eu
Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44962: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:53:35 +0200

> From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:52:06 +0100
> 
> On this web-page
> 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/PostScript-Variables.html
> 
> appears the sentence:
> 
> "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print 
> colors on black/white printers."
> 
> Shouldn't this be:
> 
> "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print 
> black/white on color printers."

No, I don't think so.  This setting is supposed to produce a better
looking printout on black/white printers, so it makes no sense to use
it when your printer supports colors.

Message #11 received at 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44962: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:04:28 +0100

OK. Thanks for your feedback.

So, your explanation is clearer than the original.

One small additional comment. You write:

> [...] so it makes no sense to use
> it when your printer supports colors.

"No sense"?  In fact, I quite often print my documents in 
black-and-white only on  my color-printer.

Best regards,
Jon


On 30/11/2020 19.53, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
>> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:52:06 +0100
>>
>> On this web-page
>>
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/PostScript-Variables.html
>>
>> appears the sentence:
>>
>> "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print
>> colors on black/white printers."
>>
>> Shouldn't this be:
>>
>> "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print
>> black/white on color printers."
> 
> No, I don't think so.  This setting is supposed to produce a better
> looking printout on black/white printers, so it makes no sense to use
> it when your printer supports colors.
> 

Message #14 received at 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: jon <at> krom.eu
Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44962: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:35:52 +0200

> Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:04:28 +0100
> 
> One small additional comment. You write:
> 
>  > [...] so it makes no sense to use
>  > it when your printer supports colors.
> 
> "No sense"?  In fact, I quite often print my documents in 
> black-and-white only on  my color-printer.

That corresponds to the value nil, not to the value black-and-white.
IOW, you want ps-print not to use colors at all.

Message #17 received at 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44962: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:43:55 +0100

OK. Clear. Thanks.

Perhaps possible to clarify that in the documentation ?

Thanks, Regards and: Stay Healthy!
Jon


On 30/11/2020 20.35, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
>> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:04:28 +0100
>>
>> One small additional comment. You write:
>>
>>   > [...] so it makes no sense to use
>>   > it when your printer supports colors.
>>
>> "No sense"?  In fact, I quite often print my documents in
>> black-and-white only on  my color-printer.
> 
> That corresponds to the value nil, not to the value black-and-white.
> IOW, you want ps-print not to use colors at all.
> 

Message #20 received at 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jon <at> krom.eu
Subject: Re: bug#44962: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 21:56:40 +0300

* Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> [2020-11-30 21:54]:
> > From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:52:06 +0100
> > 
> > On this web-page
> > 
> > https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/PostScript-Variables.html
> > 
> > appears the sentence:
> > 
> > "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print 
> > colors on black/white printers."
> > 
> > Shouldn't this be:
> > 
> > "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print 
> > black/white on color printers."
> 
> No, I don't think so.  This setting is supposed to produce a better
> looking printout on black/white printers, so it makes no sense to use
> it when your printer supports colors.

Then maybe:

"Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to produce
a better looking printout on black/white printers."

Message #23 received at 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
To: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44962: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:09:48 +0100

On 30/11/2020 19.56, Jean Louis wrote:
> * Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> [2020-11-30 21:54]:
>>> From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
>>> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 13:52:06 +0100
>>>
>>> On this web-page
>>>
>>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/PostScript-Variables.html
>>>
>>> appears the sentence:
>>>
>>> "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print
>>> colors on black/white printers."
>>>
>>> Shouldn't this be:
>>>
>>> "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to print
>>> black/white on color printers."
>>
>> No, I don't think so.  This setting is supposed to produce a better
>> looking printout on black/white printers, so it makes no sense to use
>> it when your printer supports colors.
> 
> Then maybe:
> 
> "Alternatively, you can set ps-print-color-p to black-white to produce
> a better looking printout on black/white printers."


Sounds good to me !

Message #28 received at 44962-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: jon <at> krom.eu
Cc: 44962-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#44962: Small mistake in emacs manual ?
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2020 12:20:39 +0200

> Cc: 44962 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Jon Krom <jon <at> krom.eu>
> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 20:43:55 +0100
> 
> OK. Clear. Thanks.
> 
> Perhaps possible to clarify that in the documentation ?

Done.

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