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Mon, 30 Nov 2020 06:33:53 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:33:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::433; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x433.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) This is under Gnome Shell on Debian 10, which I think uses mutter as a window manager: ./emacs -Q # The frame is near the top-left, I move it to the right bottom = quadrant (pgtk-backend-display-class) =3D> "GdkWaylandDisplay" (frame-position) =3D> (0 . 0) GDK_BACKEND=3Dx11 ./emacs -Q (pgtk-backend-display-class) =3D> "GdkX11Display" (frame-position) =3D> (0 . 0) ./emacs -Q # emacs master branch (frame-position) =3D> (2136 . 549) (also `set-frame-position' doesn=CA=BCt work, even though I see it calling gtk_window_move. I can open a separate report for that) In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.5, ca= iro version 1.16.0) of 2020-11-24 built on rltb Repository revision: d6ef9af82eafef33e117dd61aa3bd51a2464fcc6 Repository branch: feature/pgtk Windowing system distributor 'System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (bust= er) Configured using: 'configure --with-pgtk' Configured features: JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ LIBOTF ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 PGTK XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 01 04:16:04 2020 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2020 09:16:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1lU-0004z9-AH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 04:16:04 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-f44.google.com ([209.85.128.44]:54494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kk1lS-0004sh-V8 for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 04:16:03 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-f44.google.com with SMTP id d3so1700380wmb.4 for <44961@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 01:16:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gMJvcuPE1ddreKq6AcI314r4Mg5QIMU4UM2dOppkHlg=; b=XC2l2adk/8nw2o4C54VQRlwORlDym0haWU7y2GlGV7V04DlgFndEkQIn3Nr+tUPVbc bc4EMzH2CCPn/+kCeRF9uPPrAt8vek8t4sQlLphbZMFrfNd/eE7B1jw+DTOVAreqESfT Tt3hJJpraMullacwAjg4ysKyNiltbx+sH0/Tz2lBNiFFcbR4aahnUiAW43GJm9LeoBQp YJSp/EKdA/OzWUYg+TDC36eeMMBeoP4LVMCNhxzUaLbUGg4WKipNLnVYqQ52LFtOcUK/ FqqMs/7pTJvlDK88fmJckbpUYifS2XJ+ujd4FVZOKXTG1aS71FsH+mgQ6CPpI3BjQ1r0 Rt6A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=gMJvcuPE1ddreKq6AcI314r4Mg5QIMU4UM2dOppkHlg=; b=IQDFnz9sTfnSvnwgJXniqpPO2rHqzHyzbYO5/bPoOoIHFAU5VJ7IWzwRJc2PIYsDnq 3G7uWI0dfUSUPI1g0k7YaNPEcQh4tD25PmpH7oAHS9aBXTsy1T8j9BJ2mGrkZyGEv6CT 2TUdRHQVlA6bEu8Q+IQhgVknxyn1pkV5eNMsOe2R4CHSx8E5wCFKFyyO5yHeChQHGVZT nwwWj1KhCmGk/PcqAU2qRZlH8jcxx4sV8qg3YJKfcyJ5ZsXmS5xgW5rTH6FY3V3oxsQj olY4VPugV7ecaB/GDcbTpD0M+Cj+O2hXqPgrmrc2bPoTca2PjlsceZ5vDbBkIm6tRlGu EUGw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531LWdur8vwp1It7uSfWMEGLWtM8wfc/wZAlyBAHvS8wMDRP/yGn rFfS1dtVewY4xiWLeXRKfhcJCiMLyIw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy/N7XmUEe/nlE0VcP0Ad0fFCNPP8XNQVUiWbVA2AXgXLnMwY2VyXA5/JA11SqGz6EkYBXSRQ== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:2b05:: with SMTP id r5mr1617017wmr.179.1606814156571; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 01:15:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:f85a:6157:64a6:f622]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k11sm1922313wrv.88.2020.12.01.01.15.55 for <44961@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 01 Dec 2020 01:15:55 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 10:15:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:33:53 +0100") Message-ID: <87pn3tkhtg.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > This is under Gnome Shell on Debian 10, which I think uses mutter as a > window manager: > > ./emacs -Q # The frame is near the top-left, I move it to the right botto= m quadrant > (pgtk-backend-display-class) =3D> "GdkWaylandDisplay" > (frame-position) =3D> (0 . 0) > > GDK_BACKEND=3Dx11 ./emacs -Q > (pgtk-backend-display-class) =3D> "GdkX11Display" > (frame-position) =3D> (0 . 0) > > ./emacs -Q # emacs master branch > (frame-position) =3D> (2136 . 549) > > (also `set-frame-position' doesn=CA=BCt work, even though I see it calling > gtk_window_move. I can open a separate report for that) And a side effect of this is that specifying things like 'top or 'left in 'default-frame-alist' don=CA=BCt affect the positioning of frames. 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X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 28.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 13:13:25 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Pgtk emacs doesn't receive events when a window moves, so it can't update the position data. Also, wayland support code in Gtk ignores gtk_window_move for toplevel windows, so pgtk emacs can't move the window. -- Yuuki Harano From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 20 02:46:14 2020 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2020 07:46:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43600 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqtPy-00089o-Fx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:46:14 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:49855) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqtPv-00089a-3Y for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:46:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608450360; bh=Nlkan9d06w7WidRz/ehHNkUt0AG5HsZJiWOU6sz3H+s=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=cjqU7srYbdgYnZ0er7HxUz167DeIKUp9pR7NDBzantB7PaLMiBFwkpO6XF+2uyq2l Hunz96d2FkLG45l5T8pMftz8FfRIWX+Ei2zkwwSqesSMzh3t4C/OsE/srgFw3mm6pr BwFiJcia7z9//668uk9Z3nj+67vgWRqP4xQB4ng4= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.206]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mwwdl-1jsuCR0nXP-00yS6a; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 08:46:00 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information To: Yuuki Harano , 44961@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: <16c07f20-a9f1-50dd-bba6-a74cf93f9d1b@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 08:45:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:/wDIi3vW13sjdyezXP1q+9KJDyCP8f6SwYWAyCdgy/Hfz2DL005 35HyyHsevja2JMstJIDHb6TQq4sYy+uDmcXUimCgH7dWbosdWYnqfShh8FH7GGCRLKkc2Oz V3RkO6Kdm/Y7xDvPlLma4ELyKAQ4MXQr+p51ElwKbfX80rd5chXBQRdwRyVQuW3ZZv408DJ yhfr49UN3wrzOWwKSQpiQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:vJiv8zytYGo=:8KUfxjXWFgQSUQmhC0KfY7 LgvHzEUoE+lvGoMqP8iAr50I99JOyDG41r35NBrihvTHVmpvZ7TAtn1iNCVu7uJNAyyWgl/HX q/HHokqAX3oPzOyEV6UbBdNm8TFnjSbnmz0cFN28Xzjk0QirfVZUgLxcSB0QgSwNme4U9B3Mv XcN94BSOUMkrk9DgQRLvPwbacBzIdgmj4Jt8IfFhOSyH/IRfjWr4zla5PcraPckWo91iS306U BdzjcaQ+06UYIb2c5avuOt7pSxOxsPhUJzqwKNY544kZApRN3kpFhpifGm03Jc7ikqEOZ00jV B4mfIudeYMW80ugC+5Uxcav5V6viZt/67CP1fYV/EGfWhgQTgNyhOsTXPK9CNAixDGlmy8TLJ V2tTIco1DK7Y+SzDpP2/DFGVO03e3GS3rgzpD50zg+7lQRYs6onOOpvD4kKaXVp8CiyiRbudJ AISUD0QAuTIkPuET+Gk7v/7DEg2w+0eGOsxNxQEHMOs0dy4RZTrxGb1PTzRZMbF8+ZvrKIRSN tdbA6AwQR5GxvvZ2XQYZ/BpmJGpuRyzbeWoPfiHFKEuLj76FJCRa93/aZb2IbfNKilp6r3AtS 29PLEa4KuDzsEHnG9z+/hXvzodlR3YU3tjF4DdZ298bY/HjuBp5Z8KCXM0a2K/VF1tBm3kgZc 61qgScgFi9QI+D0PIzg6SlfA9C+yVWuvBraJAOePbrURTSu2LcnuaaJe5HQE/5beEqnhuzSKY PQLaQRUNwgjdLZCAou1PbcR17fEFusxNovCgwePAWDH8JwzICVSxoce4u1QQC19aL9Ve4+RZx rNr2QMBb7umSGD415W3wgT91JVgW58v01R7ikArnX/WPRgSEARa8JPbsv9lVpoLBTK9hi273q /wobUnL13vu9SbK04WRguWkMqF8vZJ0zd1/Z5bXYA= X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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I'm afraid that sooner or later we have to encapsulate all Emacs frames in one and the same session in child windows of one major root window in order to be able to con [...] Content analysis details: (2.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [212.95.5.206 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.15 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rudalics[at]gmx.at) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [212.227.15.15 listed in wl.mailspike.net] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.9 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Also, wayland support code in Gtk ignores gtk_window_move for toplevel > windows, so pgtk emacs can't move the window. Does it work for child windows? I'm afraid that sooner or later we have to encapsulate all Emacs frames in one and the same session in child windows of one major root window in order to be able to con [...] Content analysis details: (1.9 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 3.6 RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus SBL-CSS [212.95.5.206 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [212.227.15.15 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.15 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rudalics[at]gmx.at) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager > Also, wayland support code in Gtk ignores gtk_window_move for toplevel > windows, so pgtk emacs can't move the window. Does it work for child windows? I'm afraid that sooner or later we have to encapsulate all Emacs frames in one and the same session in child windows of one major root window in order to be able to continue our past frame positioning strategies. So my question can eventually become vital for these ... martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 20 05:13:22 2020 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2020 10:13:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqviL-0005Wp-Tf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 05:13:22 -0500 Received: from shiro.masm11.me ([150.95.182.25]:49920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kqviJ-0005Wd-AM for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 05:13:20 -0500 Received: from luna.pink.masm11.me (KD111239252237.au-net.ne.jp [111.239.252.237]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shiro.masm11.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2C663C0169; Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:13:16 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=masm11.me; s=202002; t=1608459196; bh=dnfjBiwCwBoShUP7CsYmWeM5pMV1UWi6N5Kpq/n0Lac=; h=Date:To:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:References; b=Exm+aK/QMZjn1WNrSAQAtkNGJoGqx1ew5dmBZzsRtt4FQN+Ie7K+nS2L/p+c0i8q8 hNqRmaW0a3kLvldOQFS2qBGClpfBRx01kT7jDUBpYwHsDLlNdqkfKPme4swBp8hIW2 /bzNq5da2+od97Bqx06gejIdI/vBi7DESJi/Ja+w= Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:13:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20201220.191311.569928869165823543.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> To: rudalics@gmx.at, 44961@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information From: Yuuki Harano In-Reply-To: <16c07f20-a9f1-50dd-bba6-a74cf93f9d1b@gmx.at> References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <16c07f20-a9f1-50dd-bba6-a74cf93f9d1b@gmx.at> Organization: Ingage Inc. X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 28.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Sun, 20 Dec 2020 08:45:58 +0100, martin rudalics wrote: > Does it work for child windows? It is working for Emacs child frames. (frame-position) returns correct values, and `left` and `top` can be modified by modify-frame-parameters to move the child frame. -- Yuuki Harano From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 21 10:33:23 2020 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2020 15:33:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krNBb-0004YG-Cv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:33:23 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:52995) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1krNBY-0004Xx-8M for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 10:33:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608564789; bh=ct9GmTEqH1eic8Y26iEqM7KTp1BsmYPbOdqYTcJi/tY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Vtvo86LTc9yD1ZQPBvwRT6K7zCTAw2wp7Eg1yIgrALXBprtS644RbV8PDmhlQp2/G 79pH7SPrMeK2A4sc6kWd7oqZOGJBjcvlxxzC/AtvnNPPYDAuhvV/MxecdbWAiROVqE y0U9Oguj6bm7sH2dxa5EwNifgyIgcZCFE/GRhSIk= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.12]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M6Db0-1kxzx71hxg-006dvg; Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:33:09 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information To: Yuuki Harano , 44961@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <16c07f20-a9f1-50dd-bba6-a74cf93f9d1b@gmx.at> <20201220.191311.569928869165823543.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 16:33:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20201220.191311.569928869165823543.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:M5lxNu7QU/mmFZrJVrlv3w4tIV1MY7FOmvqLto/O4ihlMns6+Lv iwYG4GYa+18aIBwlyN/ahS9wdz7/vnXh9Db+2+DbNYlnqlX3Zb6Pc5UkRR+AhbN213Lj5AY Mf5fDKMlZZZNpKoCpmyRmZY4kuNGRDMnNLe2zGmmscid3O2892ogPcda4T/xOJU3TL//jPu QzynUKEJusapOl9Hqgj+A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:uSUnoepMYq4=:RYvg8x43jeRaU1mD09NUHZ Dh2KxoTI5Rkcm9RQPb2zLY+Y/izd9qB+UvbiwVeQ2EheNidPHBJNE/kujx2SWZLrkdsPWGdzG 7mtwFCWBTe9djeIojBNaM/tntwGko1dZ5ZBud+WiQpB2/0cIy6+Vp4RYN/FeW/sTzxlGpj3qa WBjyNOSGKDG13dgSMyfELhG9agBaaQdmRG9Y+6qTR3RL/aEoNr50kg0Bk0IOo47LbGbpHdorP ukopEZcCp8v7GH4FvTR0ZdBDb3gBEvtmyAylEgjUrAAEdA38kFyuC7LvW3cR4+DHzLdZjg6bk y1nDT25NkAZa+8pHifLKQ1sWtCUBCtFSj4EKuMPxkSldUQY7qz30cy2vsrrK7g8AQe0j7W8V+ GywES/gvdaz5+ybuEr03Sj225oK7JGQlnhpgUmPn1Oz5pwFnFU8yzt4dM4rofWfoeG1ESUuBN RU87N+Pi0Y85HiWR7DPr8sHPOY5mIlNx/03NLTBY0pYAfI6hTBJYei223s5rncIRmJmJT4fnm V76G8GaB3RBm1oG5rIzegNFVSjLvXVUM63V9G3J0JoA53ShMOBexE1ciR4HYiJkCKAo+/2YaW HD/vVtR93ZwOTLlkfyRO7AQz2/MqkARmgoe2ClS+QCH7t4ipqhgOupBGjpLGIAW01OdeiQofO GfPO95tLLxrNovYr0oWHC/VfS0DdZesP9LU0Oja1KQQCuz1ZmngWa2eW3+XrOA728xsrBvUWD ICWw+V152rMoNsG/96djdr8uHfbPxI5wgAvakqPKa8Bp+g4+cQnv+mCl3+q1TpD1/w3EUXFVu 4B5r0Xv6tzexg9OQX7oiAXbF6od4yMIwM2loHA+sRjOhbuJIo6PBw0IUeiY+7rvdjWYCv5rrQ SusDvC1Wgok1G3vfDQ3A== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > It is working for Emacs child frames. (frame-position) returns correct > values, and `left` and `top` can be modified by modify-frame-parameters > to move the child frame. OK. Sooner or later we need a full list of functionalities that rely on frame positioning and may not work with pgtk. I suppose we have Emacs' native tooltips there (which we could then base on child frames), the speedbar (no idea for that) and all sorts of position parameters set up in ediff-wind.el. Could you have a cursory look? If some "initial" positioning works for such frames and maybe a repositioning after making a frame temporarily invisible works too, we might have additional means to handle these cases. If anyone else sees a need for repositioning frames on screen, please add it to that list. Thanks, martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 01 03:41:49 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2021 08:41:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55218 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvG0L-0002s4-66 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 03:41:49 -0500 Received: from shiro.masm11.me ([150.95.182.25]:51300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvG0I-0002rs-4B for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 03:41:47 -0500 Received: from luna.pink.masm11.me (KD106180013093.au-net.ne.jp [106.180.13.93]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shiro.masm11.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7612BC010C; Fri, 1 Jan 2021 17:41:42 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=masm11.me; s=202002; t=1609490502; bh=AKPD07oU0Hg2JDbDHMpVIJG1S5VrVWiZWg82H4gxZdQ=; h=Date:To:Subject:From; b=pH89jWBk1Yhmm1eIhhUvYQ/qaO7ck9J00BdCLgCygyibHrb2+5b/i++qjKdHxIibA 6yKcpRX3fKvllmpKwKF9nXAxNP2CQ/Bck0F10QyVOGsdXGdK0Q5/zoZaVvOiczbb1n b3U2Fe5yxaTI89yQJBkqXClJGq7xOAEybcz+NAxk= Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2021 17:41:35 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20210101.174135.1995842598138469398.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> To: rudalics@gmx.at, 44961@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information From: Yuuki Harano Organization: Ingage Inc. X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 28.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Emacs' native tooltips - initial positioning works. - repositioning works. speedbar - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. - repositioning doesn't work. ediff-wind.el - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. - repositioning doesn't work. -- Yuuki Harano From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 01 05:19:19 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2021 10:19:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55366 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvHWh-0005Gl-6s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 05:19:19 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:48713) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvHWe-0005GV-U4 for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 05:19:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1609496346; bh=iP31bkH9jgeFCfIMu9OT5OH4tJG4HyebbJ554fhQIt8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=cv1kxNnoY3Wz38v6zGbNFyBzP43AxLCWBrEVSn8irbal9ZTOhjGh8jKtwnV85Tj2/ 0RE6PoE91GN9dQtYxzHNXMAE5Lcswj1s31b9HecQBv5XIywwSsSJtpTqhIpb9pv+Ul DFbvDH1tPO+dUhz+VaT4CX7VHccWrO0AwtiHWAm0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.37]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N4hzZ-1ju3zx19S3-011lVM; Fri, 01 Jan 2021 11:19:06 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information To: Yuuki Harano , 44961@debbugs.gnu.org References: <20210101.174135.1995842598138469398.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 11:19:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210101.174135.1995842598138469398.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3XHfb5N13lLVBebH/MhNlT9GXd3prTfkSsRvTT2BL4/lH9oEf8S jw8EtnMuyRZmn3jl+sNJh5po4yyPIWnwWGX2X3udm+S1jJGpot+A+L8TlSmmU0fiLsI99oK KX37D1MeHO8J86XeEFRldctk0evqNViQE4unvD7KqbsNrdgalpVAEsWdi/f7An+FIh0NRRc NJ/hJwpOUZK29zXzllV/Q== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:wdSiYcYtra0=:Up1qCMzKC57aEPj/I/7hhI a88zhq//xMqNNLfniL+CURI6A6mhfoLv9vHzv+xbXcWp/CjBjreGomzM03M3PaVP/IKtb8CH9 hUT8mJWmYhu1gCueF+JwWP8boKfOinP+nJZ0A+77WmW99OJRJ8nQk6mWgFAs1ir0+PO0z3kty 4jgZEXd+yyxAIglFrErAG6kzl2+qD/bDuLfNvkK+6a13S97fPqA21GVEzY3MurYxP+Axm09zx 9ASUcla8KODwtnhvXF4Iz7I66V0ApphFrnQNWR3PzlyuAEKl9DaO3PxNr2w4iPHlhNVNKr7X2 Nrha9h3NeiGzi+QHmUQwebuLIY2Sjh22LCA7pWdr9FI5Wf+XrZByhBa40qw99ybYtjEsbi4hv bl/0xQOS3Rc7zle7gn7h0/ohBj7INX98Kt/tCf9Ufvz/q6RNXf0gb1Eyn0DWG1vXf6qsxm+Oq 0aidCUouW6bHU0aEuVsYwPxzqUHXqMa7TOuND61Zvt0ROQpZaCRG6q7qEsAGxxuL+lvGdNp65 yEv2EARsw9/k8oY++4er6FS0nneU41Kbs81JHCTMjgodc/9JDYDpezI+VGNy4JHuxvi6WZn5c MlOyaGYY8mgNDfUwfSWKuUmFTvXUBzHhfYkT5QK2Sxkn0F39nZv8/C5VbWH0WsrXQXvsVGnXB 8AiuvarvnqkNaW/Xp9YxckhiS6WI8Dw3bySpOskrNKUILHqmkL0oLbQPBJlr8zrRUg5HalW2u jJkXl+n2igrD7Dhgq7CovXXIJnPU9LZ6gB+8VrZ/y9WDKMg/HOsVcXsCRIbHYBuecbsBo+DTy jh1PZEsNMJU10HIYAJmFg/du8iMEOLKUbaar5w7ydgRhWw6W/PFy5y8GO67tkJLqQm8OFHFR8 2vH87+bFLTiVyOucgfyQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Emacs' native tooltips > - initial positioning works. > - repositioning works. > > speedbar > - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. > - repositioning doesn't work. > > ediff-wind.el > - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. > - repositioning doesn't work. Thanks. So if we can position and reposition our tooltips, I don't understand why we can't do the same with the other two (and obviously normal frames either). Is there some special magic involved with tooltips? Is it because they are so small, have no decorations? martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 03 04:04:13 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2021 09:04:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33285 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvzJ6-0005SY-PU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 04:04:12 -0500 Received: from shiro.masm11.me ([150.95.182.25]:58064) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvzJ3-0005SM-RE for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 04:04:11 -0500 Received: from luna.pink.masm11.me (KD106180013189.au-net.ne.jp [106.180.13.189]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by shiro.masm11.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 822E8C0178; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 18:04:06 +0900 (JST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=masm11.me; s=202002; t=1609664646; bh=m5KWWJfPocQvdNjDRbL9BUIqv46xfNrI9xlSseNc1o8=; h=Date:To:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:References; b=37v8znRDNt5Us3jFFdxBbRXaSUP1Bl+i2aRgL4JWmK6LNwaH8KMfDROiEpDiIUsWJ Qpxt1kmR5OJC+irXjiHO0yT8PMiFp3ef95xsDry62iXAT6Jc3SZFcBvQZ/I7XVNWws V8J0f01j8OslTn0ciQoVxHEst/urFtN5aqcdj4VA= Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 18:04:05 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20210103.180405.941827859833054763.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> To: rudalics@gmx.at, 44961@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information From: Yuuki Harano In-Reply-To: References: <20210101.174135.1995842598138469398.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> Organization: Ingage Inc. X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 28.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Thanks. So if we can position and reposition our tooltips, I don't > understand why we can't do the same with the other two (and obviously > normal frames either). Is there some special magic involved with > tooltips? Is it because they are so small, have no decorations? Pgtk's Emacs' native tooltip is implemented by popup window, not toplevel window. Tooltip doesn't have to be moved by users manually, doesn't have decorations, and its position is important, so I created it by popup window. -- Yuuki Harano From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 03 04:23:23 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2021 09:23:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33298 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvzbe-0005uX-QW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 04:23:23 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:57679) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kvzbc-0005uK-QX for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 04:23:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1609665790; bh=FoUh81TBls79QMsi0zDz1y9F77uw+VZCOC73FtzTvb4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=AHNst/PTtoFr2dW2cTQeDb5qGjEekLT6cU2e9+SXCrVRtGzlIMnRUEz8LNdh+XQ9b KmqTLt7ZlQpGcSUz8JYll2i8edJtxebSre7+M4sdKorSEXn8Nma/rWBQOnOB9aNQ2w 6OD5PHe0rrjfUF/3W1Gvive9xQgyCZF9SdmnANPs= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([212.95.5.250]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mv31W-1k57tu0U1A-00r3HZ; Sun, 03 Jan 2021 10:23:10 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information To: Yuuki Harano , 44961@debbugs.gnu.org References: <20210101.174135.1995842598138469398.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <20210103.180405.941827859833054763.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: <7820fa0e-9dd8-cdf4-3af0-b411207354c2@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 10:23:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210103.180405.941827859833054763.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+VI/OEO7/xWI210YU/xA8yiPPJWg9Wz111ZkjL0UTqRsbBkjE34 t3zhmqPfX9cwT7iXKKXgOY5tdVBJVj/6IdEG3G6Mxs7yOOQKWNNYvHDgsC9hv81+7vHkJRJ +Xz+3x/5yNmUOenW0g0yQZa9cVE/DlJYryVX+PcjHTMAohXK6fw3uSDuzKhigNMX6qhfa09 KjWDuT6DgZsuarbONlEGA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:5YcIPiihFqc=:mWec7mx4z3rV8xVTO8Tyvh GLtVyPnTBU+0d2VMJgbM6OLOLyceCM1FslaFiW5IZY1F8CgQYOyl81mWHjnjGPQZ7A8N0HVTO Dd2NV9ie/wZ8namLKZ8PVAY6oI6IrMhJNvWHUZHVQlw2BzVpNz/eKo2dUMBQW7P8pjeQGdZgD 3Y7gRD4TujWB7FoEXrim5oAGuxHOyoZMZgZKpsW6g6d+ksP1RBedaqELfJOTLZ9zG4ONjFPrT ZLtYfPIo4FDlTxSh5shKqZM2jHzJdEdh1z+Hy0SxdvEdm7izfB2ia6qGZquETmVE6j9kgdiXX MYtAh46ZCuvf65rAv+huxXVkTVjXI0R7naXScN4Iv+AolkchGRUu9nVLJeGl0+8sijyDzIPC6 jo82tkK9kHY3TNQELpExWWini6iBd5GqMn5fuMGhppoMG9wWnM6l19Oa0TvAjsFqkKACDVpxx 6qTbQ62kGYkpX0sEns4eN/idk5/fxW86kW5pTPQgJJ3iqvdeb3N9Dqw2jqm2KEY78NiRikaa5 n0kkddZpf3sxRATWnZYPeCjCKWTnNPyzYGOYjsXu2ayo3492SG9R3kkYUaSbzP+wfDSdZfdsX 4oyJ3NHoYTv/T1EFntmHpb6v+8YAR3TY3GZdJKWNI6BlU+bnULd2O+hr40eBDqhS2ARDJW3PP UE2cI+BCaTEak27GTerU+CXkJO9ngNzTZJpPUZzx49mh/06X/7kXuoQ7VkVHpz/ukG/NSluYL Ngaonamp+UVAYsavJzkuA6LWjvG1PuWfnGrRJKKDJ4evxFt3WVIRFxprNCyCGdDxUFlBnqniJ fYVqaAMKGih5A6MrdNuXzoQ/16Y6WlEE+KMo3nxxZ0JYHOAKvGQMtDXz1OfO5PsMTlhbXNBRt tn7XFMTgpD1/YhsZyY4e4QoLndtRqkDbIKeJEn78Y= X-Spam-Score: 2.9 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Is there some special magic involved with >> tooltips? Is it because they are so small, have no decorations? > > Pgtk's Emacs' native tooltip is implemented by popup window, not toplevel window. > Tooltip doesn't have to be moved by users manually, doesn't have decorations, > and its position is important, so I created it by popup window. I see. So we are left with the fact that we won't be able to position (and maybe also size) top-level frames in a foreseeable future and our application writers must keep that in mind. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jan 04 13:15:14 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2021 18:15:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60259 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwUNu-0005Ri-69 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:15:14 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f48.google.com ([209.85.221.48]:39062) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwUNs-0005RS-Pi for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:15:13 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f48.google.com with SMTP id c5so33108614wrp.6 for <44961@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:15:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2IKHP9K+gD9hPo1tK+TGHmrtO4KxIEfoBZ78XjEr3Fg=; b=WyP34m7DbbZPdBIy7TxTWi7g/GVmSS+hgjgGeUNozVKMBAiK6fgoR/7k6KC6fTnwJJ QS6VykvF2KGfqDek6MPE0R1M5puo56s94YcGRXx4dB52EO1bKuy8qzqw2l6ytE4Eb0gn BV0XrckL+5DT1rKd80bjoFwNRbs8o9sN00XifFeJ7TFo3Y2MVA6gmjif0uWLBF6iL7lL c1YfLaKXbKo8gZ6d9V3a/Y1KKI8Zw00KOYneQBjAhjRx3A1FvSc5FC9PvVywfMNaPivk Q1u9PZsQ7Lc49u2uqtj7xcsEKtNlJhitIB0Y0eX5RbHZj14bh0VToIbf43NQsQ+x3DvO nI7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2IKHP9K+gD9hPo1tK+TGHmrtO4KxIEfoBZ78XjEr3Fg=; b=iagRUG+n/aFfmYx64q5b6F2/xJwSQUe9lF/J7tf2twrXih01sDC1wtjg9hJko8S/1e r2iR87dBxx8EbF5OiLXPvtWhCQcfYJwLT81ZeR43pRQSAIAPtWppokVaMjc/hBD4WHQZ Tm+rodXBS4kSYS2GGAs3Z2X5GuYicR/0KF9VSKv+cO2Ssamf61GtgJc2APshpNDmqW0B R4eiMXdg/PdqX+TXyAOGzPyOVyhj1PxeNz+ut2N1lDftsT4oSM5dxMEAOrRTZtASwy3d cdkEcK7tdKBBL75r6xeOUHGYE2DAr3GcSMZaO/GfiIo9eIBT0YgTO5szHrX811xe8LJU +UnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5320MCYH+JaD9oqcJ0kQiVOZMhBhoyn6ygiXp2aWYNBbbkm71VLb NRDszn1zICg7PzGG3MQvz9ZUKrh1LDA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwk+3Yam42Y6dBWV+DQ534byILvVZuvPlj1NKxTclSNKORysvR3nJzgdGudHd7HN5nwXk2cCQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:eec7:: with SMTP id a7mr81621086wrp.45.1609784106555; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb (vav06-1-78-207-202-134.fbx.proxad.net. [78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a62sm148479wmh.40.2021.01.04.10.15.04 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:15:05 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: Yuuki Harano Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:15:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> (Yuuki Harano's message of "Sun, 20 Dec 2020 02:42:28 +0900 (JST)") Message-ID: <878s9836xj.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Yuuki Harano writes: > Pgtk emacs doesn't receive events when a window moves, so it can't update= the position data. > > Also, wayland support code in Gtk ignores gtk_window_move for toplevel wi= ndows, so pgtk emacs can't move the window. Yes, this is the conclusion I came to as well, from reading various comments by the Wayland developers about how the new paradigm was that end users are not allowed to know about frame-positions, since that=CA=BCs Old School(=E2=84=A2), and they're New School(=E2=84=A2), and normal people= who like to think in coordinate systems are WRONG! (I=CA=BCm paraphrasing :-) ) It would be nice if frame-positioning on initial frame-creation worked correctly, since desktop.el does that (I haven't checked if that=CA=BCs true or not). Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 05 08:24:17 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2021 13:24:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41086 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwmJt-00057X-M1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:24:17 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f48.google.com ([209.85.221.48]:36617) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwmJs-00057H-Ht for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:24:16 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f48.google.com with SMTP id t16so36178175wra.3 for <44961@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 05:24:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:references:mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/ivllVWK94RE43qgDVFL8nXSuxfYgQhS451wcJmUENY=; b=T8hPh9qUkCfxfD+XqhTk/d/+7b/KlcvdPFmTx+5XIgZFAwvpr80mulAcm8conbNyxF MI8ZFpexrgJ5qO13tP3xbpdajrUZ4ZFr2/vR7i5OV7pG1fm7gvecneIZlZUBRKqRzUe9 jGEHmkZZ9tuQ76h8CfvenWUxI6tDWnsXYIgcQxdm+NdcO2xTXbmsBenZwLhRdzP5wqgV WqyhXaxrKi2MYVR7mVNnpeDyE12SmdKHXSK9pwyCZBTVDU8xfjsXna4YHFs4acxS1TG8 0sddNaEXRM07/QXLVBDIMy+E45rHW6oHwem9CxRBrTzVqXTubdNCYymEsnnhIrA44K/b gUCQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/ivllVWK94RE43qgDVFL8nXSuxfYgQhS451wcJmUENY=; b=GFWG2uQ8l2V6TkGp6pLmyr0dEaJXWHN5h4Rx/9UqblRZVZMx/FGF5I/RWGURudxs1G ZQStzzK2iVNqM2sjYFeU6EA3XxieWHFySaRN3CsdrgdxwyDcw/n8lt1WThgOVNHrexJ+ BYIXY3f4ubSi0MTvlEKhQzoJhkHXBB47o8cIK0R7ID+1F7lHofhzV1UcX9es2VJ14Mrl yjh5BRiUSIrmwcCOLvirtcVkjmwnwxQ7KFY/Y5MuwiDXAcHZSj9t+dHVh9N5uz2cZUkW WU0kk4ua7WBAWCLCFG6/wz5Q6y9uBHwWLxLgPaXgDUtcBJhxECPSTeSvunygHSWnECTT ylpQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533HEE0RAgWaurs2Ku5UR6VnUXsmcZBGbrl8JqCGeEAT2Q+DENwd yKfh86KqJYSy1bIHJk1TLe00XdkR02k= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzuyV/L+xiteyk6NwWf7KCvOM18nbzIzma30bqnM8F36vR1j5vaRpjtJb33CU0YHX5wU8ZOVw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:53c9:: with SMTP id a9mr82221173wrw.188.1609853050506; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 05:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a861:69b6:6aaf:dbd3:8964]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y6sm4096299wmg.39.2021.01.05.05.24.09 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 Jan 2021 05:24:09 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: Yuuki Harano , 44961@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <878s9836xj.fsf@gmail.com> X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 14:24:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <878s9836xj.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:15:04 +0100") Message-ID: <87pn2j1pqf.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > It would be nice if frame-positioning on initial frame-creation worked > correctly, since desktop.el does that (I haven't checked if that=CA=BCs > true or not). Answering my own question: no it doesn=CA=BCt, because frame creation doesn=CA=BCt obey any positioning parameters such as 'top'. Oh well, all progress involves sacrifices, I guess. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 05 10:32:35 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2021 15:32:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwoK3-0000JV-5q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 10:32:35 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:35701) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwoK1-0000JJ-KN for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 10:32:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1609860742; bh=codP9ZdzlfcjCjjnKSCAqih7lAnBbfRxjkERUlbC6RA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=jLpZrVbTieD4yR5Yn43mAB6UNmNRcDHoB1QT4jSCIr9qDCRUyJxPxZKsCo0QjqXyu pwG9PDDvjUDqeRF159pJyQ00W2wgwIU8VeURtBrxcFxkyXC5UQwbJggxC/0NuOJpUa UctgxsENpyX8ORAq2GAj1jmQsL0yr4dzqUAhe/FQ= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.5.231]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MEm2D-1kmhBd00gF-00GETt; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 16:32:22 +0100 Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information To: Robert Pluim , Yuuki Harano , 44961@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <878s9836xj.fsf@gmail.com> <87pn2j1pqf.fsf@gmail.com> From: martin rudalics Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 16:32:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87pn2j1pqf.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qBzxGsiaevR4ZqH6CJumjIvaotSw4NWSYmHFKfAhQsfKeNHnXOo JbKs9vZ+n+ks4B8EarwN4ZTsAeZ3WkCk+/A+PoBYDy5CywHDok+z8JJEF6I1Xxj/8nCa7sn rw0+XudU4vrVoAiS8W3rl/tZtYW5kVrY19YaKgn45yWHdn9zVWc3C0wZOlXMsC/Q5x1tUcO htPIba0ZKqxyUTg9fBn7w== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:oL8QdAMGZj8=:xRYRdiLbOLxNtnt8mx37A2 qbc8TX5qU1VNr1Gkv2IaQ9HPtIDdvTFcyhkDJbTK1EeO/vVV8DXMO9y2Bh8zlKWwNFDoYB7AH 21VzgyIpmckXh51GRS6PvonvHhSG+7ud2XvOQ7AKnao5XoyS3/DdEnkA34iEi/fEYhBfZzyHz 0ds8VHsqKfy9iB6n40O/wUucFygPnUclYuJKUr8Az9swc3/KHHR+wZaw4txQL7DpaiqcgdmN8 jUJVqkuoC6Q2BHhwMAC/wSnch3q/WfXynJXvq7i28ivzllwVSSERFz6t/N4Lf0xZoRflOyCwC 5R3k7DWsSpY0LjzsRH3mvn9oRFrKrPf6uKcvZhVXr9qxet75+R/yVvlfa2+yaI3iySMWzNtLj dXtvO7Wa4KndbAJ3w3raowTD9dscHwDPZMLhlY+9n+XVD0iS86qYvR6nS1vt1pn3qVkwqPw/1 TP1UqoeX0JIXs6Q4/h39eq1PiR/tUd8Em2e8V0NWusJqZvS27RFgE+jp09DXrIX/O2QS0ycAO cVCEXKlacc2/h+9EFH/j9d0wwq9P0XWhUm18ha0gW5xXDlojw7dKBlN830I2ntrVnlcmaQUN6 HOLczRj8NwOhgkP361m6chZTWOT91EzbDAUV3OMnZCZyUHtnKtRFNgLGFH9uV01IEpEbqMIlo te98e2w0NYx5YrQOOg/wnwXuHVNpOJyqQyeXbk6YTboE8O46n+mE07J1G8v8YF0/J2XteHn+y n2pGhVtMNYyJU34LBkYRl6z4nRA7arswfCQan0aPY8HPLlssj0SW+fDJxj/c/IzpiWXRy4epq FexcYPSOg5/+8qgMNoc5XMLSg8tI3GsLSCvetX647suohAvtBG+/4tHVZzroqrblaqw5yn3md RPcXVHWnStDlp8vp4N1A== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> It would be nice if frame-positioning on initial frame-creation worke= d >> correctly, since desktop.el does that (I haven't checked if that=CA=BC= s >> true or not). > > Answering my own question: no it doesn=CA=BCt, because frame creation > doesn=CA=BCt obey any positioning parameters such as 'top'. Oh well, a= ll > progress involves sacrifices, I guess. Yuuki already answered it in an earlier mail: > speedbar > - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. > - repositioning doesn't work. > > ediff-wind.el > - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. > - repositioning doesn't work. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 05 11:00:54 2021 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2021 16:00:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42484 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwolS-00010a-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:00:54 -0500 Received: from mail-wm1-f52.google.com ([209.85.128.52]:51121) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwolQ-00010L-Hl for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 11:00:53 -0500 Received: by mail-wm1-f52.google.com with SMTP id 190so35958wmz.0 for <44961@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:00:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7be66O2QGdQ3oHvj6aNKY+dQ0POWzwAwGtLWrITRlcI=; b=fwtfUcFtfVv772ftM+GlemKO0RJcnZ+U0L8VRHArvK4f1rOEqigkj2sz9k77R0RI+a q5zgHaS8OjNpY/i3UCohgUMjD6R0nwe5OY68EK8ZTp7cA1P96Tr3gMyr3U9+5p6u+POD C5TqeCN3DfV6qXSm8JzERK7OpTkeA6kLHVEw/je1giN6cfRl+cIwNm6JS6S6jEp9E4UB Cir9leviuswvZzfMnOiSWgZ/8KpylXmmOfGDn01hnreo+pKphHBsziamhd2oBo+yP6In f91y+vi5awwRQT0jalSdkDT+A27IaPUftJlvEuwjWfXEgEDxF/TGdrcnPZ7FCdvnjmY0 6Y0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7be66O2QGdQ3oHvj6aNKY+dQ0POWzwAwGtLWrITRlcI=; b=pFHIx4IQVek/vZB1CL+isQeOFNlWWr+T8yQUBvwAH6/T19JdhAgr5mj/xX29rrpzEE IcrTsmUTvYeQuj7bnSuK3ZsiX3j/SSkhiEkov0s/NNoi1+r7g1HyKoZHIxl40aJqii3d K9WyAnu2An/UZZ3ZCaFE8tyqFl1Iw20JPAaQYKu/+FN0jDith+xYQFRXc1vOzxC/rxsK PBkti8DUIHMpCPXGLeb+xbXvlRKyEb2a8DLQq50CP5LpoD9twfQ3E9Yb3MtxPgRD5lBy WM8bzVdeFwPtVbOYrXMvI3Pg2Xp/Iwrc9uXSAFEXMpgCyE5FonmaK4d/adgJ6LYRPSBW Yb/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532QBAw+nkHfr25ugBNhX6L1MyvjEJN4ZeShp3WsRiF0MFU/4roJ eVMECe+9d6jwq0g8gQcxe2AJ44oJ6K0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzjh4G74O7a4jOk18nxyrEzUsXGRzLQC6QvLuDZ0ZvOvIUbi0mXzpsPHV3mVoEi13dHq0aNsA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:9c52:: with SMTP id f79mr4050932wme.3.1609862446289; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a861:69b6:6aaf:dbd3:8964]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h14sm265731wrx.37.2021.01.05.08.00.45 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:00:45 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <20201220.024228.1032082898181723362.masm@luna.pink.masm11.me> <878s9836xj.fsf@gmail.com> <87pn2j1pqf.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 17:00:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 5 Jan 2021 16:32:19 +0100") Message-ID: <87czyj1ihg.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org, Yuuki Harano X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) martin rudalics writes: >>> It would be nice if frame-positioning on initial frame-creation worked >>> correctly, since desktop.el does that (I haven't checked if that=CA=BCs >>> true or not). >> >> Answering my own question: no it doesn=CA=BCt, because frame creation >> doesn=CA=BCt obey any positioning parameters such as 'top'. Oh well, all >> progress involves sacrifices, I guess. > > Yuuki already answered it in an earlier mail: > >> speedbar >> - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. >> - repositioning doesn't work. >> >> ediff-wind.el >> - initial positioning doesn't work. always center on monitor. >> - repositioning doesn't work. Indeed. I=CA=BCm behind on my messages :-) Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 20 09:07:50 2022 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Feb 2022 14:07:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59684 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nLmsQ-0002g7-Kn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:07:50 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55074) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nLmsO-0002fr-TP for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 09:07:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7P0Sq+8Kjr8Bw9ruYAHsXlQ8NrWDX+DHvsGb+aOqIZw=; b=ffBu9EVWupwg67kEG6maDdQGUS 6DVLM8XN2pvC1OJLepfqCT9Ro51r3HZT5HhoZLjPhOP+VP+Ucz16e66dak7dAppRi2Pk0Va5DoVDA jbXFJOmJziPxmwX0q7rfsLOHtNDr4IzP2RRWbwe2wKiiAQHHit4Bzy2nhLEN/KX1NVYM=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLmsG-0002Qr-E6; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:07:43 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Robert Pluim Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> X-Now-Playing: Lydia Lunch's _Queen of Siam_: "A Cruise To The Moon" Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:07:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:33:53 +0100") Message-ID: <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Robert Pluim writes: > This is under Gnome Shell on Debian 10, which I think uses mutter as a > window manager: > > ./emacs -Q # The frame is near the top-left, I move it to the right > bottom quadrant > (pgtk-backend-dis [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Robert Pluim writes: > This is under Gnome Shell on Debian 10, which I think uses mutter as a > window manager: > > ./emacs -Q # The frame is near the top-left, I move it to the right > bottom quadrant > (pgtk-backend-display-class) => "GdkWaylandDisplay" > (frame-position) => (0 . 0) > > GDK_BACKEND=x11 ./emacs -Q > (pgtk-backend-display-class) => "GdkX11Display" > (frame-position) => (0 . 0) > > ./emacs -Q # emacs master branch > (frame-position) => (2136 . 549) (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) I tried this on the current master with --with-pgtk, and (frame-position) seems to report the correct results for me on Debian/bookworm under Gnome shell (with X). 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Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:57:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1645387063; bh=bxXgLgv7S+BHJ+rcYV0r5JGpRuELv8BXpXpuTzZ3WGs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Ca3RYL9PhHcE+rht6PhYUlAmOvmK3M5gOXKIVl5zmFF1YGRuj5cmEq6Q/ds6K+eJ/ iKRQZt0yCNpKs0TWL4q1huREMEikFAdaON6Cf2I1vIVgVtjuLXKKcLFveVs8bboeZ+ eDLq48QTArSlJoWYAmctSMVro7ger3aPcPitTdHI= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobelfs2 ([89.246.38.212]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MWics-1nk9RX3Cky-00X327; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:57:43 +0100 From: Stephen Berman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:57:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:07:39 +0100") Message-ID: <87ilt9mhu1.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4ENAfBQf9PCwXFCfzOD3wlXGiRZVNrFd/IPeegZCPgu/ocHO6zu qKSX/Q9Lc/zKisONdJTQJvnVy2VyCkGcGCnRp6Ai6TIokia6ncJj916u7xAS5HDZpcMcxVG fpL+Va4+sOExB4tL6b7S71gGpNLczaf38fOqkmPvr1wdpRvnFh+JvpytMoREwzyv6qaWDUe uDVQgjEDqwLtgkOuM2taQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:LyLIWkV+5gk=:cgWOAGarVBV84H7vRkzLFQ e3zxPk0skaJoH9kh/gZTWczRoWz7O3AFBTqt5iHYMoainSjPnWoQvg66iGO8xaA/IFWII2uOy n18g+G3iq8Q9OWekxbM9jCPXxqfQnB2C/yZTfNJqoWKC0BrXp6S33UAguUXd+qX69svRzwk9Z Lj0kzyTsm9GhIWaqH4XmReuJ+nPLX7Y5PekhsJT0+hMbsE/gnHU+ON/SyfzBwCdCaycVL9vx2 PZOJWRXSUL622khK+iCHiReMeVzsUoLSBUJXC5VNGcONZ5gwzK7VtnZsE7ne78jLFRlexD1PM e/lbDgUAaOwtKlPEehVrB5hnj0CK0mvjJsVFA1+Dn9//j5BXUaCKBSHf+vvtOX12x1wYmnkkl IMRWlADN4A3fUFHUWiIsJT63GXYbQ5vws2BXg9S/CMSff+A/wIw2IjlbajZ5NiEdVyOrfluo4 3hqra93BDo6Kvdf0U29ntepeziSstHQwjjv8Pk4BbYe2U0CoYMEGPzZ5IYG+difUNw0uSM93S Z0UxhhxhDDXlk7jza9mZVuby4dPNDNqxJbz22bICmBszo8MyGGLdNL77uLmFLTLCS12yE08bW OTJpwuBlAqKZCKE0oxveGxGx6mUHOUej4mEuSX6rHIM4EUVkXUIu/FZMPZRVqAqI6IU+SmFvo 3CGSZBVEHk1hXqxwE+AWnb3Pcg3LqTwdtL1W/RC0n8VgoSCSBLHsWBgGuc0UwZ1Oa8SpCR8Pv ekV/QmvEYoftweYjPGAw86N9hk+En7WPv0IjXQWPjHOeQv+36Vjo/DLGyK2oGYHYnLa+htaV/ jF2+f7apymcQ0DEhQljQWlejhJTZZmMuW7RqHJfbKO7yHN0c9wWdArRifaQKEe8eC0/ImeRNT lLfqmUMdav8bmWhYrtXesO75kOrbDK75nYJsW4vItYzLWVlFwCwbJCi9rN6UtobyvRLaV2TJr T/hBy+WZYFIS7j0QBVv7Zx9W7dH8dSrBJ0w5UDx1XUKZh4O5VQDC5E1sGHiznwBTdAqPwFV9g +E1DXubqOC6sf/drExf4LMn8e4jKY6vFUaxFORblmzexYEvqLXHTJsRB+qEeuWo6JHlLuOTzL ChPugzMiSZJ8Xs= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:07:39 +0100 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Robert Pluim writes: > >> This is under Gnome Shell on Debian 10, which I think uses mutter as a >> window manager: >> >> ./emacs -Q # The frame is near the top-left, I move it to the right >> bottom quadrant >> (pgtk-backend-display-class) => "GdkWaylandDisplay" >> (frame-position) => (0 . 0) >> >> GDK_BACKEND=x11 ./emacs -Q >> (pgtk-backend-display-class) => "GdkX11Display" >> (frame-position) => (0 . 0) >> >> ./emacs -Q # emacs master branch >> (frame-position) => (2136 . 549) > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved > at the time.) > > I tried this on the current master with --with-pgtk, and > (frame-position) seems to report the correct results for me on > Debian/bookworm under Gnome shell (with X). > > Are you still seeing this problem on the current trunk? This sounds like bug#52697, which was fixed on master in 855928082b and 9966d9574b. 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Mon, 21 Feb 2022 01:22:30 +0000 Received: by kubenode517.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fc4e1b3bb7ae12eaa72c5605d96f1b09; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 01:22:25 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:22:21 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:07:39 +0100") Message-ID: <875yp9hv3m.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 514 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org, Robert Pluim X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I tried this on the current master with --with-pgtk, and > (frame-position) seems to report the correct results for me on > Debian/bookworm under Gnome shell (with X). > > Are you still seeing this problem on the current trunk? That was fixed earlier but with the small caveat that the position reporting sometimes gets completely messed up after a frame is iconified and deiconified. AFAICT it's a problem in GTK, but it happens too randomly for me to track down. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 21 06:17:28 2022 Received: (at 44961) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2022 11:17:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35199 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nM6h6-0002X4-3r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 06:17:28 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com ([209.85.221.50]:42672) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nM6h3-0002Wq-Ux for 44961@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 06:17:26 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id h6so26414567wrb.9 for <44961@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 03:17:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version; bh=Spp/5X3HYQ5UvXjSHHMKTuXlbNQJcUe7plmHcig48ko=; b=eLbfCKoLXeQrbKIw+inf3wkMIyjs80CIkBvYiVR9lkEJ0pjI4fNvdiLUvkdaePLhBT ihLEjXcoo1JIrnI/Bx4kfBYRpXPqoXqNSaU1Cf3EF9j7PLX7VIcHfI6ZXtr4yc/z5YwS S8LooVzQlNJSJktcdiWzkZn2PnmemW8bQWMh/q9JpdXADeEAzRn690aE6cBhGz3pKqFi KxpCEAVLKhcE7dBzBjPiLmPozviCCrbQ3lMS0elMAsg1zDmgfFfFMtw0c00v+1XmIno9 25ZuKMyTGjqsZSvHW5J+z53jYqVY3Q4qqIxbv0ZsN2ZOcDrXlw+Ot4rtsDR4L7B705c4 U6Ag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=Spp/5X3HYQ5UvXjSHHMKTuXlbNQJcUe7plmHcig48ko=; b=nuZ8aYaz4MO/C0nA4AcSuu21qCvCSLswT2q7GlGoNqVTLtLFnZ7NfCWGRygcNoT8CV 6tXPvDPlbD4pZz5tdgDa+aJTEgxekXnaXfnpUzJUriW09XVj84xo0GXKqQzFL46ruRxJ ZFTQPiLNolBTTOHy74GFLkcSrNfgkmmVSgXoGkkV2WhQbpiIzIWx/LT/XjuP2IWYJokz zPv0VNrVe/KgHHgNIBl+isgdJknEpudLpBazkiIOclosm34STQKLoDgd9u4q5OC6xgl8 gYl0QzhVUDWl1X7DRNTgl6m0ZGvWtLfqGgKegZcHCpNMXzhFZ5Kr84Yb3c+KXkdX8hRG sNhQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533IvrNXhSbFKX5aTMI00HjlELIWqP1J+rBhFbTvVARaLCl9XLm1 hDObYcwvU0BjorZ15VowQM8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJypGdLd5fLpnfAVWzT2SwGsCJcCGSeKpF1mI2gU7ofm4utY6FbreECrYgwCCLCmxSt4to2TpQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:e952:0:b0:1e3:39ed:d990 with SMTP id m18-20020adfe952000000b001e339edd990mr15513806wrn.215.1645442239899; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 03:17:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e0a:3f3:fb50:ab2f:e33d:8961:3965]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n15-20020a05600c3b8f00b0037bc64fbd17sm7411959wms.11.2022.02.21.03.17.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 21 Feb 2022 03:17:19 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilt9mhu1.fsf@gmx.net> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 12:17:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ilt9mhu1.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:57:42 +0100") Message-ID: <874k4slb9d.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: Po Lu , 44961@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 20:57:42 +0100, Stephen Berman said: Stephen> On Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:07:39 +0100 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> Robert Pluim writes: >> >>> This is under Gnome Shell on Debian 10, which I think uses mutter as a >>> window manager: >>> >>> ./emacs -Q # The frame is near the top-left, I move it to the right >>> bottom quadrant >>> (pgtk-backend-display-class) => "GdkWaylandDisplay" >>> (frame-position) => (0 . 0) >>> >>> GDK_BACKEND=x11 ./emacs -Q >>> (pgtk-backend-display-class) => "GdkX11Display" >>> (frame-position) => (0 . 0) >>> >>> ./emacs -Q # emacs master branch >>> (frame-position) => (2136 . 549) >> >> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved >> at the time.) >> >> I tried this on the current master with --with-pgtk, and >> (frame-position) seems to report the correct results for me on >> Debian/bookworm under Gnome shell (with X). >> >> Are you still seeing this problem on the current trunk? Stephen> This sounds like bug#52697, which was fixed on master in 855928082b and Stephen> 9966d9574b. It does, but I think that only fixed part of the issue. With GDK_BACKEND=x11, I get the right results, but with the Wayland backend I always get "(26 . 23)" wherever I place the frame(although if I maximize the frame I get "(0 . 0)" This might be an effect of the Wayland coordinate system insanity that they've foisted on the rest of the world. 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Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:28:39 +0000 Received: by kubenode518.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e90a83e96094124a2db5130ec5264e01; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:28:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Robert Pluim Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilt9mhu1.fsf@gmx.net> <874k4slb9d.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:28:27 +0800 In-Reply-To: <874k4slb9d.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 12:17:18 +0100") Message-ID: <87sfscfoh0.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 587 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stephen Berman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > Stephen> This sounds like bug#52697, which was fixed on master in 855928082b and > Stephen> 9966d9574b. > It does, but I think that only fixed part of the issue. With > GDK_BACKEND=x11, I get the right results, but with the Wayland backend > I always get "(26 . 23)" wherever I place the frame(although if I > maximize the frame I get "(0 . 0)" Could you tell the result with an undecorated frame? > This might be an effect of the Wayland coordinate system insanity that > they've foisted on the rest of the world. I tend to agree. 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Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:46:37 +0000 Received: by kubenode512.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID deced40cf33c16e494490f12ec5de94d; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:46:32 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Robert Pluim Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilt9mhu1.fsf@gmx.net> <874k4slb9d.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfscfoh0.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:46:27 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87sfscfoh0.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:28:27 +0800") Message-ID: <87h78sfnn0.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 362 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stephen Berman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Po Lu writes: > Could you tell the result with an undecorated frame? Nevermind, it's there to trick programs which rely on coordinates to determine tiling state to think that the window is not tiled at the top left corner when it's not maximized (or otherwise tiled that way.) Should we respect that information from GTK? WDYT? Thanks. 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With >> GDK_BACKEND=x11, I get the right results, but with the Wayland backend >> I always get "(26 . 23)" wherever I place the frame(although if I >> maximize the frame I get "(0 . 0)" Po> Could you tell the result with an undecorated frame? If I create a second frame with (make-frame '((undecorated . t))) then (frame-position) => (0 . 0) wherever that frame is positioned. 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Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:55:37 +0000 Received: by kubenode510.mail-prod1.omega.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2db3bc5040cfb9e47d0b393da024e7a4; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:55:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Robert Pluim Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilt9mhu1.fsf@gmx.net> <874k4slb9d.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfscfoh0.fsf@yahoo.com> <87v8x8jv6r.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 19:55:29 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87v8x8jv6r.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 12:49:48 +0100") Message-ID: <87czjgfn7y.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19797 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Content-Length: 275 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961 Cc: 44961@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen , Stephen Berman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > If I create a second frame with > > (make-frame '((undecorated . t))) > > then > > (frame-position) => (0 . 0) > > wherever that frame is positioned. That's what I would have expected, thanks. Please see the other message I sent. 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Po> Nevermind, it's there to trick programs which rely on coordinates to Po> determine tiling state to think that the window is not tiled at the= top Po> left corner when it's not maximized (or otherwise tiled that way.) Po> Should we respect that information from GTK? WDYT? Respect which information from GTK? If reporting (0 . 0) for undecorated and fullboth frames and a fixed value for decorated frames works, then I see no problem with it (although I don=CA=BCt run pgtk as my daily driver, so perhaps there are other issues). The frame positioning portions of desktop.el and similar are doomed under Wayland in any case. 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The frame positioning portions of desktop.el and > similar are doomed under Wayland in any case. Yes, indeed. Let's keep the status quo for now and see if anyone complains in the future. Thanks for your input. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 21 09:50:46 2022 Received: (at 44961-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2022 14:50:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35613 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMA1W-0002XM-0z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:50:46 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-f51.google.com ([209.85.221.51]:37627) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nMA1T-0002X6-Ea for 44961-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:50:44 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id m27so15731206wrb.4 for <44961-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 06:50:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+QE5hR8TTbDLe3Ip3lYRjwo3teCUQHulFNktbPi7UhM=; b=IHswopn4/vy+vXzWIYUzW4E+KEa1LGMyB7Fa3iQpqs6Fla7nHCQgWzvU+WpCae5vVm hK9ViiDhu2aoq2UWl/CrGXhwsxxCE0kpifchPaPnCDozssvkvSnTX36MMJQEe+pkCA4N iisDXfOLvMe0OKqbdpZSE56G7c5al5RAFd3ny1JxbYsgtiBWNvr8FX0dCdp9TPpSCmXO bQGQkK4HGmmRm6sB9U9lpjqyOkDXJrBBw+IzF72EcBqiNTClpDkhS70f2tRLyw1lDiEZ oksyJUdqTJ0/RUxJEf44mFkrzUIROz2lvP8GAJIM3PWqIByEs0pZXiQjgAg5vP8XsGoi +BZg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+QE5hR8TTbDLe3Ip3lYRjwo3teCUQHulFNktbPi7UhM=; b=TiJ2GZeFKg1yoayaF0141WQzKG14GgQBIqsB+H5z6GrNHlcp/VtYC3EbDhbUcDdmWz Wz6wNDmu0QF6FPIGC7LXv89oION++qe8aoXSq+m7cQvJizXvKbTgFNHqqlMxDXij9qkz vFHANB+s3BAd0WOeqSyix0HZ5Mus03/vdJWAF0Fe2MubvA1AuEELoe4Dim0YEF29cpcn IcqYEBExhzDkSkEVtagGP4YDtfc7rc23/MhxqUxcGR4MyxUcrj6LD7cQ5COIHuSWC7CR 5BesJfoQdaQ4t84Y/TvnYckgqCyHw4Gn8aEl9FrvOKWNFcAWX1hnTOczB3l2Oh4Lbzp/ 9egg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533aiG3/FS+TXX/0zWmOtkS0NNMVV79+ccB+NeGcVoId5JANlAZV bI5D8O/v0WoWCOkV+DVSGpY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzT0Tk+UumyXOZdYMALJaRUCBbEVDsFLonXxRBOhkyz4Dduc354ON0klMzrAk1NoIjRye212Q== X-Received: by 2002:adf:df8f:0:b0:1e6:8a5c:4b07 with SMTP id z15-20020adfdf8f000000b001e68a5c4b07mr16366961wrl.523.1645455037045; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 06:50:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rltb ([2a01:e0a:3f3:fb50:ab2f:e33d:8961:3965]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r12sm18398661wrz.50.2022.02.21.06.50.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 21 Feb 2022 06:50:36 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Pluim To: Po Lu Subject: Re: bug#44961: 28.0.50; [feature/pgtk] frame-position returns incorrect information References: <87tut6kj72.fsf@gmail.com> <87ley5r5qs.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilt9mhu1.fsf@gmx.net> <874k4slb9d.fsf@gmail.com> <87sfscfoh0.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h78sfnn0.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r17wjs0r.fsf@gmail.com> <877d9ofj02.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 15:50:35 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877d9ofj02.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:26:37 +0800") Message-ID: <87mtikjmtg.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44961-done Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44961-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Stephen Berman X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:26:37 +0800, Po Lu said: Po> Robert Pluim writes: >> If reporting (0 . 0) for undecorated and fullboth frames and a fixed >> value for decorated frames works, then I see no problem with it >> (although I don=CA=BCt run pgtk as my daily driver, so perhaps there= are >> other issues). The frame positioning portions of desktop.el and >> similar are doomed under Wayland in any case. Po> Yes, indeed. Let's keep the status quo for now and see if anyone Po> complains in the future. OK. I=CA=BCll close the bug for now, we can always reopen it later. Po> Thanks for your input. np Robert --=20 From unknown Mon Jun 16 23:53:08 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator