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ido-everywhere documentation

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Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
To: Emacs bug BTS <submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Subject: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:18:47 +0300

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Tags: patch

The ducumentation suggests user command, but it is not available by
default.

    ido.el

    ;; To use ido for all buffer and file selections in Emacs, customize the
    ;; variable `ido-everywhere'.
    ...

    (defcustom ido-everywhere nil
      "Use ido everywhere for reading file names and directories.
    Setting this variable directly does not work.  Use `customize' or
    call the function `ido-everywhere'."
>>  =====================================

2009-09-19  Jari Aalto  <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>

        * ido.el (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza.

[0001-lisp-ido.el-ido-everywhere-Add-autoload-stanza.patch (text/x-diff, inline)]

From 7c7df3898ebd236630585c6d1b3a059c22998dee Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:40:56 +0300
Subject: [PATCH] lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza

Signed-off-by: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
---
 lisp/ido.el |    1 +
 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/ido.el b/lisp/ido.el
index 2336fea..6252bab 100644
--- a/lisp/ido.el
+++ b/lisp/ido.el
@@ -1513,6 +1513,7 @@ This function also adds a hook to the minibuffer."
   (message "Ido mode %s" (if ido-mode "enabled" "disabled")))
 
 
+;;;###autoload
 (defun ido-everywhere (arg)
   "Toggle using ido speed-ups everywhere file and directory names are read.
 With ARG, turn ido speed-up on if arg is positive, off otherwise."
-- 
1.6.3.3

Message #10 received at 4491 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Cc: 4491 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, storm <at> cua.dk
Subject: Re: bug#4491: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:46:36 -0400

> The ducumentation suggests user command, but it is not available by
> default.

>     ido.el

>     ;; To use ido for all buffer and file selections in Emacs, customize the
>     ;; variable `ido-everywhere'.
>     ...

>     (defcustom ido-everywhere nil
>       "Use ido everywhere for reading file names and directories.
>     Setting this variable directly does not work.  Use `customize' or
>     call the function `ido-everywhere'."
>>> =====================================

> 2009-09-19  Jari Aalto  <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>

>         * ido.el (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza.

I'm not sure ido-everywhere is meant to work when ido-mode is OFF.
So, I think ido-everywhere is only meaningfully called after calling
ido-mode, in which case autoloading doesn't make much sense.
Kim?


        Stefan

Message #15 received at 4491 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 4491 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, storm <at> cua.dk
Subject: Re: bug#4491: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:06:35 +0300

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>     (defcustom ido-everywhere nil
>>       "Use ido everywhere for reading file names and directories.
>>     Setting this variable directly does not work.  Use `customize' or
>>     call the function `ido-everywhere'."
>
> I'm not sure ido-everywhere is meant to work when ido-mode is OFF.
> So, I think ido-everywhere is only meaningfully called after calling
> ido-mode, in which case autoloading doesn't make much sense.

This is where I use it:

  (autoload 'ido-everywhere "ido")
  (ido-everywhere 1)
  (ido-mode 1)

Jari

Message #20 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Leo <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4491: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:32:15 +0100

On 2009-09-20 17:06 +0100, Jari Aalto wrote:
> Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
>>>     (defcustom ido-everywhere nil
>>>       "Use ido everywhere for reading file names and directories.
>>>     Setting this variable directly does not work.  Use `customize' or
>>>     call the function `ido-everywhere'."
>>
>> I'm not sure ido-everywhere is meant to work when ido-mode is OFF.
>> So, I think ido-everywhere is only meaningfully called after calling
>> ido-mode, in which case autoloading doesn't make much sense.
>
> This is where I use it:
>
>   (autoload 'ido-everywhere "ido")
>   (ido-everywhere 1)
>   (ido-mode 1)

Why not

 (ido-mode 1)
 (ido-everywhere 1)

??

Then you don't need that autoload.

> Jari

-- 
Leo's Emacs uptime: 1 hour, 13 minutes, 44 seconds

Message #25 received at 4491 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Cc: 4491 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, storm <at> cua.dk
Subject: Re: bug#4491: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:20:28 -0400

> This is where I use it:

>   (autoload 'ido-everywhere "ido")
>   (ido-everywhere 1)
>   (ido-mode 1)

Actually ido-everywhere is called by ido-mode.  So

   (setq ido-everywhere t)
   (ido-mode 1)

will work just fine.  You only need to call ido-everywhere if you change
the variable after enabling ido-mode.


        Stefan

Message #30 received at 4491 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 4491 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, storm <at> cua.dk
Subject: Re: bug#4491: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:53:55 +0300

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> This is where I use it:
>
>>   (autoload 'ido-everywhere "ido")
>>   (ido-everywhere 1)
>>   (ido-mode 1)
>
> Actually ido-everywhere is called by ido-mode.  So
>
>    (setq ido-everywhere t)
>    (ido-mode 1)
>
> will work just fine.  You only need to call ido-everywhere if you change
> the variable after enabling ido-mode.

It would be good if the documentaion of the variable would indicate
that it can be set, before ido-mode is turner on.

Thanks,
Jari

Message #35 received at 4491 <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Leo <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 4491 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>,
        storm <at> cua.dk
Subject: Re: bug#4491: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add autoload stanza
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:58:23 +0100

On 2009-09-20 19:20 +0100, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> This is where I use it:
>
>>   (autoload 'ido-everywhere "ido")
>>   (ido-everywhere 1)
>>   (ido-mode 1)
>
> Actually ido-everywhere is called by ido-mode.  So
>
>    (setq ido-everywhere t)
>    (ido-mode 1)
>
> will work just fine.  You only need to call ido-everywhere if you change
> the variable after enabling ido-mode.

The doc-string of variable ido-everywhere seems confusing to me.

>         Stefan

-- 
Leo's Emacs uptime: 2 hours, 40 minutes, 42 seconds

Message #48 received at 4491 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: storm <at> cua.dk, 4491 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto <jari.aalto <at> cante.net>
Subject: Re: bug#4491: [PATCH] Emacs CVS lisp/ido.el: (ido-everywhere): Add
	autoload stanza
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:52:23 +0200

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> Actually ido-everywhere is called by ido-mode.  So
>
>    (setq ido-everywhere t)
>    (ido-mode 1)
>
> will work just fine.  You only need to call ido-everywhere if you change
> the variable after enabling ido-mode.

So I don't think there's a bug here, and I'm closing the report.

-- 
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