From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 17 10:21:58 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2020 15:21:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60907 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kf2nu-00025d-FK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:21:58 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:53492) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kf2nq-00025T-8B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:21:56 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49984) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kf2nn-0006qQ-7Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:21:53 -0500 Received: from cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.47]:53257) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kf2nk-0000pC-S6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:21:50 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1726C541BE9 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-9-134.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.9.134]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6BF59541C41 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:12:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.10); Tue, 17 Nov 2020 15:12:58 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Grain-Whispering: 1d2004fa10724657_1605625976317_4201831554 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1605625976317:4147520500 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1605625976317 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9FF7F24B for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:12:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=no8A1agF+f5B5Ga8we Rp7zpvFrA=; b=X8jzUTXjGiR3HuhETU8GmFCNb3O0lnPRuU92FenwS1kibMjdPj X9sW0Jt0KGQUWUVKjpENFUJ4IUgNFZ74pLM0xpd5OkpblteEui/ht2XYsnym5wT2 Zmjw8hmMJVYhQGlL3X9ZLeAsnMhGskQHYONZJZJTdhARabPyAITAX/57g= Received: from jidanni.org (220-140-4-155.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [220.140.4.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a97.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 422FC7F54C for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2020 07:12:51 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a97 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.1; Add gnus-article-date-user user-defined examples X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 14:12:29 +0800 Message-ID: <87h7pofr5e.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.212.47; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=cyan.elm.relay.mailchannels.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/17 10:12:59 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -5 X-Spam_score: -0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (-0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.543, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) (info "(gnus) Article Date") says =E2=80=98W T s=E2=80=99 Display the date using a user-defined format (=E2=80=98gnus-article-date-user=E2=80=99). The format is specified= by the =E2=80=98gnus-article-time-format=E2=80=99 variable, and is a string= that=E2=80=99s passed to =E2=80=98format-time-string=E2=80=99. See the documentation of t= hat variable for a list of possible format specs. Without examples the user is a loss at figuring out how to set this. Maybe one does (setq gnus-article-date-user "%a, %d ...") but probably not. (info "(gnus) User-Defined Specs") has no examples either. In fact maybe some words are missing... without examples one cannot be sure. gnus-article-date-headers is a variable defined in =E2=80=98gnus-art.el=E2= =80=99. its docstring seems to say we can do (set-variable 'gnus-article-date-headers '(user-defined)) Same on (info "(gnus) Customizing Articles") Maybe we are supposed to do (set-variable 'gnus-article-date-headers '("%a, %d...")) but that triggers an error. Wait. Let's try (set-variable 'gnus-article-time-format "%a, %d...") (set-variable 'gnus-article-date-headers '(user-defined)) Ah, finally I figured out what the docs are trying to say. Wish they added an example. Alas, not only does doing that correctly affect W T s itself, but it also affects all the other W T's! emacs-version "27.1" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 24 03:39:57 2020 Received: (at 44707) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2020 08:39:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57491 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khTrh-0002Yf-AM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:39:57 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khTrf-0002YQ-S8 for 44707@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 03:39:56 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uRyQay932u3GVymoEZtN7K6iFXKXAwmyxUWL629JIc4=; b=Run7lu3OEjMxGqusmdEbw+wsya WkreH5DLNAOSJxYh/LZl23izCn5IBx5kJXrN3oRk6yqnevpmkKxt1u3q71n3Gei8zmTtHkdVQE/kH K4uEVNHIyiWM8Y4wim7dIlia0zOQj7vzscu1fSAVAUAJBKp/IgxYk3wHg86FZAwHjMRQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khTrX-0001Ml-Kz; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:39:50 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#44707: 27.1; Add gnus-article-date-user user-defined examples References: <87h7pofr5e.5.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Now-Playing: Kid Creole & The Coconuts's _Off the Coast of Me_: "Darrio" Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 09:39:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87h7pofr5e.5.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Tue, 17 Nov 2020 14:12:29 +0800") Message-ID: <87zh375est.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > (info "(gnus) Article Date") says > > ‘W T s’ > Display the date using a user-defined format > (‘gnus-article-date-user’). The format is specified by the > ‘gnus-article-time-format’ var [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44707 Cc: 44707@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > (info "(gnus) Article Date") says > > =E2=80=98W T s=E2=80=99 > Display the date using a user-defined format > (=E2=80=98gnus-article-date-user=E2=80=99). The format is specified= by the > =E2=80=98gnus-article-time-format=E2=80=99 variable, and is a string= that=E2=80=99s passed > to =E2=80=98format-time-string=E2=80=99. See the documentation of t= hat variable > for a list of possible format specs. > > Without examples the user is a loss at figuring out how to set this. > > Maybe one does > (setq gnus-article-date-user "%a, %d ...") > but probably not. The manual describes a command: `W T s', so I'm not sure why you're: > (set-variable 'gnus-article-date-headers '(user-defined)) In any case, `gnus-article-date-user' has a default value that is pretty self-explanatory. 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