From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih Aydin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 00:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 44604@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.160522738417536 (code B ref -1); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 00:30:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2020 00:29:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46111 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdMyF-0004Yl-6y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:29:44 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:37026) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdIWb-0003vN-7z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:44:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34638) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdIWb-00084t-0h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:44:53 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-x530.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::530]:46523) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdIWX-0004w3-6b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:44:52 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-x530.google.com with SMTP id t11so7774757edj.13 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 11:44:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=kbm1VfrGqNh4SYeo7ZC5FFTQ7xJRMIgx2cP5wztvQrE=; b=h5vuFAFXoy5EL9+l09fi3d3cFC9bDJuZBjfTcJLeT20wCu9MxabMyzulBraPi50JiL jWHURj7R09s8q3FnLkx9TLnRd7x/XO2is/HNNuc57dsxYMY2iY34sseCPb8UvclKwxfb GKcVfACaYJr6+3Qvw8AHIhj+3yt4EuG9C/pVjz5qkH5eRh+FGTCKn2g3jooxi4eN4bAj /1MZAMejFbc84CQS3hRfpfdstuIQgtFH9xai9w7SbIEjTXigBQz/GoKX75DNVg1oQMJD F0w4YVxXxv6UqFnrtUotlevtnN0Y52wvNndxxUwfqLq990pH8Kk4RTLGgxH7rfAEm0jh KZQA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=kbm1VfrGqNh4SYeo7ZC5FFTQ7xJRMIgx2cP5wztvQrE=; b=BjTyM0nkhC/Ajf51HOIyeOZ3BW9683UQkWUtmY+C3+FMAQGtPEvfb9tzs73vAqmts1 2A3Wt5BxjpNfoB7vBxSuyJB8+95iFOe4/rdPx/71+WcA/L3EPcXutPWKOxcxHwKyMRkM 5ReYFUZvahmwJdjxC0G9VNWvp9CzISOeLbK4C/C1BSdICAZv8q7myhdWUf3WxlWLU3vM 1FwpCr6n9c24Qg9SALsAh4VuKlhl3LrXVev7yKWohI4aAtGBI6lkNScCVnBXIykSAkcV n1pqM4IAbRomWzsAYZmsX3U8nGBobsb++FAtdwpfdthmAQqzkfBhP4iiMoyjqeRG7Eu8 Kxbw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530n9oT5pqq+iyZxSGSTH1wGzU6Fo7JdicE/PjaTffC+X7tuRuVz nTV036o5I5BRv5YMWPKNngpb28KjzIm7ZTWGFw1hzTuJP7M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx7OctOnhEPTeLiQGzLLdacZXM3ptnVPdVh3aI1ksEzxbto6HtCntQgTUcUB/3EVnt7vJ5ZaJzSbjtIBjdGH7g= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:411:: with SMTP id q17mr1554509edv.125.1605210286651; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 11:44:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Fatih Aydin Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:44:35 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ecfc5105b3ee2432" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::530; envelope-from=fataydin138@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-x530.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:29:42 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) --000000000000ecfc5105b3ee2432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I set Turkish as the language environment, I started to have problems with gpg. I have tried to; - Change lanuage environment of OS (locale.conf) instead of changing it in Emacs, nothing changed. - Set another languages to see if they also cause problem (Polish and Arabic), they were okay. Only Turkish is the problematic one. The problems I have observed: - I get this error message when I run package-install: Error while verifying signature archive-contents.sig: Command output:gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Nov 2020 01:05:03 PM +03 - When I run org-decrypt-entry, nothing happens. (in English, it works) In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.22, cair= o version 1.17.3) of 2020-08-28 built on juergen Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12009000 System Description: Arch Linux Recent messages: Making completion list... [2 times] Quit Importing package-keyring.gpg...done Contacting host: elpa.gnu.org:443 [2 times] Package refresh done Failed to download =E2=80=98gnu=E2=80=99 archive. Quit Type "q" in help window to restore its previous buffer, C-M-v to scroll help. Quit Configured using: 'configure --prefix=3D/usr --sysconfdir=3D/etc --libexecdir=3D/usr/lib --localstatedir=3D/var --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-xft --with-wide-int --with-modules --with-cairo --with-harfbuzz 'CFLAGS=3D-march=3Dx86-64 -mtune=3Dgeneric -O2 -pipe -fno-plt' CPPFLAGS=3D-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro,-z,now' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug sendmail help-mode mm-archive message dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs text-property-search time-date mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-utils gnutls network-stream warnings url-http mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045 mm-util ietf-drums mail-prsvr url-gw nsm rmc puny url-cache url-auth url url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie url-domsuf url-util mailcap epg epg-config finder-inf package easymenu browse-url url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib misearch multi-isearch tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 75203 12839) (symbols 48 8692 1) (strings 32 25959 2065) (string-bytes 1 776904) (vectors 16 14300) (vector-slots 8 207058 16916) (floats 8 27 261) (intervals 56 3977 2464) (buffers 1000 17)) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:42:24 +0300 --000000000000ecfc5105b3ee2432 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I set Turkish as the language environment, I started = to have problems
=C2=A0with gpg.
I have tried to;
- Change lanuage= environment of OS (locale.conf) instead of changing it in
=C2=A0Emacs, = nothing changed.
- Set another languages to see if they also cause probl= em (Polish and
=C2=A0Arabic), they were okay. Only Turkish is the proble= matic one.
The problems I have observed:
- I get this error message w= hen I run package-install:
Error while verifying signature archive-conte= nts.sig:
Command output:gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Nov 2020 01:05:03 PM = +03
- When I run org-decrypt-entry, nothing happens. (in English, it wor= ks)
In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.2= 2, cairo
=C2=A0version 1.17.3)
=C2=A0of 2020-08-28 built on juergenWindowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0= .12009000
System Description: Arch Linux
Recent messages:
Making c= ompletion list... [2 times]
Quit
Importing package-keyring.gpg...done=
Contacting host: elpa.gnu.org:443 [2 times]
Package refresh done
Failed to download =E2=80=98gnu=E2= =80=99 archive.
Quit
Type "q" in help window to restore its= previous buffer, C-M-v to scroll help.
Quit
Configured using:
=C2= =A0'configure --prefix=3D/usr --sysconfdir=3D/etc --libexecdir=3D/usr/l= ib
=C2=A0--localstatedir=3D/var --with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3 --with-xft --wit= h-wide-int
=C2=A0--with-modules --with-cairo --with-harfbuzz 'CFLAGS= =3D-march=3Dx86-64
=C2=A0-mtune=3Dgeneric -O2 -pipe -fno-plt' CPPFLA= GS=3D-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2
=C2=A0LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-ne= eded,-z,relro,-z,now'
Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG = RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY
INOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXM= L2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 X= DBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON
PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP
Important s= ettings:
=C2=A0 value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
=C2=A0 locale-coding-syst= em: utf-8-unix
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
Minor modes in effect:=C2=A0 tooltip-mode: t
=C2=A0 global-eldoc-mode: t
=C2=A0 eldoc-mode= : t
=C2=A0 electric-indent-mode: t
=C2=A0 mouse-wheel-mode: t
=C2= =A0 tool-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 menu-bar-mode: t
=C2=A0 file-name-shadow-= mode: t
=C2=A0 global-font-lock-mode: t
=C2=A0 font-lock-mode: t
= =C2=A0 blink-cursor-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-composition-mode: t
=C2=A0 au= to-encryption-mode: t
=C2=A0 auto-compression-mode: t
=C2=A0 line-num= ber-mode: t
=C2=A0 transient-mark-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
None = found.
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug sendmail help-mode mm-archive mes= sage
dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived
= gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs text-property-search time-date mailabbrevgmm-utils mailheader mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-utils gnutls
ne= twork-stream warnings url-http mail-parse rfc2231 rfc2047 rfc2045
mm-uti= l ietf-drums mail-prsvr url-gw nsm rmc puny url-cache url-auth url
url-p= roxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie
url-domsu= f url-util mailcap epg epg-config finder-inf package easymenu
browse-url= url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core
cl-macs eiei= o-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map url-vars seq
byte-opt gv bytec= omp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib misearch
multi-isearch tooltip= eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks
lisp-float-type mwheel term= /x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd tool-bar
dnd fontset image regexp-opt= fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment
text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode= prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar
rfn-eshadow isearch timer sele= ct scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock
syntax facemenu font-core term/tt= y-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic
cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang = vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao
korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 he= brew greek romanian slovak czech
european ethiopic indian cyrillic chine= se composite charscript charprop
case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help = simple abbrev obarray
cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-fac= e macroexp files
text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code= -pages mule
custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbu= sbind
inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-sett= ing
cairo move-toolbar gtk x-toolkit x multi-tty make-network-process em= acs)
Memory information:
((conses 16 75203 12839)
=C2=A0(symbols 4= 8 8692 1)
=C2=A0(strings 32 25959 2065)
=C2=A0(string-bytes 1 776904)=
=C2=A0(vectors 16 14300)
=C2=A0(vector-slots 8 207058 16916)
=C2= =A0(floats 8 27 261)
=C2=A0(intervals 56 3977 2464)
=C2=A0(buffers 10= 00 17))
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 22:42:24 +0300
--000000000000ecfc5105b3ee2432-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160525514620698 (code B ref 44604); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2020 08:12:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46572 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUC1-0005Nm-O6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:12:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33664) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUC0-0005NY-AX for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:12:24 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43088) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUBv-0000YH-3B; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:12:19 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1066 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUBu-00046t-9h; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:12:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:12:02 +0200 Message-Id: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Fatih Aydin on Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:44:35 +0000) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Fatih Aydin > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:44:35 +0000 > > When I set Turkish as the language environment, I started to have problems > with gpg. > I have tried to; > - Change lanuage environment of OS (locale.conf) instead of changing it in > Emacs, nothing changed. > - Set another languages to see if they also cause problem (Polish and > Arabic), they were okay. Only Turkish is the problematic one. > The problems I have observed: > - I get this error message when I run package-install: > Error while verifying signature archive-contents.sig: > Command output:gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Nov 2020 01:05:03 PM +03 > - When I run org-decrypt-entry, nothing happens. (in English, it works) > In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.22, cairo > version 1.17.3) Can you please show a recipe to reproduce the problem starting from "emacs -Q"? In particular, please describe how did you set the Turkish language environment, given that your locale is en_US.UTF-8. Thanks. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih Aydin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: "44604@debbugs.gnu.org" <44604@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160525865026373 (code B ref 44604); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2020 09:10:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46644 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdV6Y-0006rI-Fc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 04:10:50 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-f44.google.com ([209.85.208.44]:42679) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdV6V-0006r4-V9 for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 04:10:49 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-f44.google.com with SMTP id v22so9823385edt.9 for <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:10:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kX/jgfZevZXF1ywsBob1BTTQnAABLOPGsnWk18gszso=; b=XZLoQVvejQeU76eXfm+aNNkvzSGy0SDdHkYhQPXLaRO/6zIOfthr9vlaJAEpOwEvWw PApRb9FFYxJ6hdkviHEkDRSSChqjBO0Dm6KZkItteR37qawxoL7Y+ST8UWiCOZAim6fN vWnqAKCnaU+Qyo8Te3Fgi+cM/hIMjHRhu3pKtSzX6Yy/9CPiglkfsEplIrRjgzNlv92s 4Icsk/AyLQekOsjcqoftrz1pi8ZFJJcStirgTi9R264iNzd1ThgeJAEUCZAB08t+lWKm mecuOxPTpC+BN87oOHPalUlfZ6ffITNlzeMUWKvMI1szmPpx6LnPE/A6lUePuFhxyQhy CZmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kX/jgfZevZXF1ywsBob1BTTQnAABLOPGsnWk18gszso=; b=BQPnC3+jJIQtyRB45qTXNAVzMpOP8GUZusPdGssBytg/E7BCWKPN3/fWh084HFJHCs p61NpcX/++zAYFP2viTt8vA3E23neAjQU+7QTZdqCD9p5Kx4OY9SObvkrKDVteQlQA7l 7fU0jGM1J/1Hud3nVEbgJ91yEgdwHpqIW/lj047cas1DxfKu7BmAOOQCHbE0wukHu4tk CB9+L++qDGEqHzTG+WCEhli4wQKIOjL0REcrPtw7iSQYwcmSHj0Kf1bNUhoXcqmM9GrI SWG8j8hE6O0RIoCoRQ6Rbo/uc8rhEW0QlBLSWGNxRs/1fzyLy13eE1bhZ7Zabm47+xBL Xjag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530fk4WG8g3dALKINkKU+5v16RaHcfimr2HxFVbAOq0KrPYQcnwt ceumJaSOYN+smg2bwb1rVPriYPdV/3caNuvNdrnYHrv8+/QcCRZn X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwJi4dI0T3kGXdtt9WjGK/rcfDSC/jFoiLWQYgFkaTQ+AXZVdUhtBaUh4h/uaQTTdyFB7Q7ZJiMzZOPqLipzus= X-Received: by 2002:a50:cc48:: with SMTP id n8mr1530479edi.137.1605258642014; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:10:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a54:358e:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 01:10:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Fatih Aydin Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:10:41 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000021469505b3f9672a" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --00000000000021469505b3f9672a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I have changed my locale back to English before sending the bug report. Okay I will write the recipe, Steps to reproduce: - Start Emacs - Set language environment to Turkish. (doesn't matter how you do it: customize menu or use set-language-environment or change LANG variable of the system) To have the result without a reboot, use set-language-environment function. - Run package-install, you will get the error I mentioned. Also before that error you will see some messages with 'unknown proxy direct' in it. I have tested this on two different laptops with same OS and the same internet connection. I got the same result. Thank you. On Friday, November 13, 2020, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Fatih Aydin >> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:44:35 +0000 >> >> When I set Turkish as the language environment, I started to have problems >> with gpg. >> I have tried to; >> - Change lanuage environment of OS (locale.conf) instead of changing it in >> Emacs, nothing changed. >> - Set another languages to see if they also cause problem (Polish and >> Arabic), they were okay. Only Turkish is the problematic one. >> The problems I have observed: >> - I get this error message when I run package-install: >> Error while verifying signature archive-contents.sig: >> Command output:gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Nov 2020 01:05:03 PM +03 >> - When I run org-decrypt-entry, nothing happens. (in English, it works) >> In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.22, cairo >> version 1.17.3) > > Can you please show a recipe to reproduce the problem starting from > "emacs -Q"? In particular, please describe how did you set the > Turkish language environment, given that your locale is en_US.UTF-8. > > Thanks. > --00000000000021469505b3f9672a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have changed my locale back to English before sending the bug report. Oka= y I will write the recipe,
Steps to reproduce:
- Start Emacs
- Set= language environment to Turkish. (doesn't matter how you do it: custom= ize menu or use set-language-environment or change LANG variable of the sys= tem) To have the result without a reboot, use set-language-environment func= tion.
- Run package-install, you will get the error I mentioned. Also be= fore that error you will see some messages with 'unknown proxy direct&#= 39; in it.

I have tested this on two different laptops with same OS = and the same internet connection. I got the same result.

Thank you.<= br>

On Friday, November 13, 2020, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> From: Fatih Aydin &= lt;fataydin138@gmail.com>>> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:44:35 +0000
>>
>> Wh= en I set Turkish as the language environment, I started to have problems>>=C2=A0 with gpg.
>> I have tried to;
>> - Change= lanuage environment of OS (locale.conf) instead of changing it in
>&= gt;=C2=A0 Emacs, nothing changed.
>> - Set another languages to se= e if they also cause problem (Polish and
>>=C2=A0 Arabic), they we= re okay. Only Turkish is the problematic one.
>> The problems I ha= ve observed:
>> - I get this error message when I run package-inst= all:
>> Error while verifying signature archive-contents.sig:
&= gt;> Command output:gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Nov 2020 01:05:03 PM +03<= br>>> - When I run org-decrypt-entry, nothing happens. (in English, i= t works)
>> In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ = Version 3.24.22, cairo
>>=C2=A0 version 1.17.3)
>
> Ca= n you please show a recipe to reproduce the problem starting from
> &= quot;emacs -Q"?=C2=A0 In particular, please describe how did you set t= he
> Turkish language environment, given that your locale is en_US.UT= F-8.
>
> Thanks.
> --00000000000021469505b3f9672a-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 12:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160526929520254 (code B ref 44604); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 12:09:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2020 12:08:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47156 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdXsF-0005Gc-Eu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 07:08:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60840) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdXsE-0005GQ-77 for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 07:08:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53831) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdXs8-00033W-R2; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 07:08:09 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3839 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdXrz-000876-6F; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 07:08:07 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:07:45 +0200 Message-Id: <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Fatih Aydin on Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:10:41 +0000) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Fatih Aydin > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:10:41 +0000 > Cc: "44604@debbugs.gnu.org" <44604@debbugs.gnu.org> > > Steps to reproduce: > - Start Emacs > - Set language environment to Turkish. (doesn't matter how you do it: customize menu or use > set-language-environment or change LANG variable of the system) To have the result without a reboot, use > set-language-environment function. > - Run package-install, you will get the error I mentioned. Also before that error you will see some messages > with 'unknown proxy direct' in it. package-install asks for a package. Does it matter what package to select here? Which package did you try to install when you got the error? > I have tested this on two different laptops with same OS and the same internet connection. I got the same > result. Thanks, I will look into this soon if no one beats me up to it. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih Aydin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16052771628275 (code B ref 44604); Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Nov 2020 14:19:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47332 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdZv7-00029P-ND for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:19:22 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-f51.google.com ([209.85.218.51]:36871) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdZv4-00029A-AC for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:19:20 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-f51.google.com with SMTP id f20so13670427ejz.4 for <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 06:19:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QrfM2a9UUTxbmbZDnNY6uYynxK3Kz0aKAE9g2BRR98M=; b=ABCCSuz30JWnnJEI1jrVlvD9nVEYH+sM6dV81PvFsy64trXUxO/8BwiTQddn6xSPq6 KDFV2IHx4CGFKSwq6ImFNoLThQYK1ZeI1mxG9vs+kX0Dis+qxZRYR8hkjGJL12mApynV biz/7PH8uVPMJf2nugQ/wsqy2ceZZWdbDxVCkoWFrqDsOjFlHlXP8gbO50Pnlu8IAxi9 CrNXI3p5AdjTDtKm/NjstyGOprxiLZraxoNrvmXTAVwZ7l38woqFDd4U6iPvUGdE4j21 PitPzcyZlAoytVZpVcl5RMwxvT+vysJPvVF7HjG111p9HAn8w8VTcfgEydB4gW+PHSNi tBJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QrfM2a9UUTxbmbZDnNY6uYynxK3Kz0aKAE9g2BRR98M=; b=Dm+WaRil/YG5k+ix2f/lxKezHnG/WOn3Pxukgv2lciPI8n93UFCRnO5aI2QzKHpAIa NS2c90nAbuD5mDUGtdJx5Xnj8nkGhJkszsIMscVnw3bu5q7somCiLj3cfJGF799tsPLA 8i8fTkKJqR7RG1cuT0XyF718Bkj6O74mB0OVnrkjOqvll5otTUvhSX1voInCZlSRSGJ2 aVlZ+LVnYW+yFURsDYCSINXk5bjSTL4GOFdLntGQCJB47NJ/2twRWFlhal1hNnq9xzbX Z/IFJhFJ+qdRHl88QfT+ZQnTQIuIfn5GIe19zzULbtC44aoN/VCT8wsyLj9ksOhpO8Mc +JBw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533z7xQFOx+TQbeioXTuwXnVdlKVa0G9gYj+lbUxhRNFLe/0WAHO b0csKTEvVwrLS95e0rjTOz9am8xE3yfhbQeBYxs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyjL5KpsRLoDqDiHFPgIeckC7Klg9MdBIuBlJzQiD5tIE8I23YgwjPQIvsr8bcoKFo8NhGpS2QYgi77QcKLSdc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:7190:: with SMTP id h16mr2022331ejk.221.1605277152432; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 06:19:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> From: Fatih Aydin Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:19:00 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006fd47d05b3fdb623" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --0000000000006fd47d05b3fdb623 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" No, the package doesn't matter, the error occurs before it asks for a package. When you run for the first time (without .emacs.d folder), before package-install asks for the package name, it installs some files to .emacs.d (.emacs.d/elpa/archives and .emacs.d/elpa/gnupg folders are created). This is what normally happens, but with 'LANG=tr_TR.UTF-8' or 'current-language-environment=Turkish' it first prompts: Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT Then the error report comes: Error while verifying signature archive-contents.sig: Command output: gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Nov 2020 01:05:03 PM +03 gpg: using RSA key C433554766D3DDC64221BFAA066DAFCB81E42C40 gpg: Good signature from "GNU ELPA Signing Agent (2019) < elpasign@elpa.gnu.org>" [unknown] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Primary key fingerprint: C433 5547 66D3 DDC6 4221 BFAA 066D AFCB 81E4 2C40 Additional info: When I try to connect a website using eww, I again get this message a few more times while the website is loading: Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Fatih Aydin > > Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:10:41 +0000 > > Cc: "44604@debbugs.gnu.org" <44604@debbugs.gnu.org> > > > > Steps to reproduce: > > - Start Emacs > > - Set language environment to Turkish. (doesn't matter how you do it: > customize menu or use > > set-language-environment or change LANG variable of the system) To have > the result without a reboot, use > > set-language-environment function. > > - Run package-install, you will get the error I mentioned. Also before > that error you will see some messages > > with 'unknown proxy direct' in it. > > package-install asks for a package. Does it matter what package to > select here? Which package did you try to install when you got the > error? > > > I have tested this on two different laptops with same OS and the same > internet connection. I got the same > > result. > > Thanks, I will look into this soon if no one beats me up to it. > --0000000000006fd47d05b3fdb623 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, the package doesn't matter, the err= or occurs before it asks for a package.

When you run for the first t= ime (without .emacs.d folder), before package-install asks for the package = name, it installs some files to .emacs.d (.emacs.d/elpa/archives and .emacs= .d/elpa/gnupg folders are created). This is what normally happens, but with= 'LANG=3Dtr_TR.UTF-8' or 'current-language-environment=3DTurkis= h' it first prompts:

Emergency (url): Unknown proxy direct= ive: DIRECT

Then the error report comes:

Error while ve= rifying signature archive-contents.sig:

Command output:
gpg: Sign= ature made Thu 12 Nov 2020 01:05:03 PM +03
gpg:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 using RS= A key C433554766D3DDC64221BFAA066DAFCB81E42C40
gpg: Good signature from = "GNU ELPA Signing Agent (2019) <elpasign@elpa.gnu.org>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This k= ey is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There is no indication that the signature= belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: C433 5547 66D3 DDC6 4221= =C2=A0 BFAA 066D AFCB 81E4 2C40

Additional info: When I try to= connect a website using eww, I again get this message a few more times whi= le the website is loading:
Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIR= ECT

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Fatih Aydin <fataydin138@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:10:41 +0000
> Cc: "4= 4604@debbugs.gnu.org" <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>
>
> Steps to reproduce:
> - Start Emacs
> - Set language environment to Turkish. (doesn't matter how you do = it: customize menu or use
> set-language-environment or change LANG variable of the system) To hav= e the result without a reboot, use
> set-language-environment function.
> - Run package-install, you will get the error I mentioned. Also before= that error you will see some messages
> with 'unknown proxy direct' in it.

package-install asks for a package.=C2=A0 Does it matter what package to select here?=C2=A0 Which package did you try to install when you got the error?

> I have tested this on two different laptops with same OS and the same = internet connection. I got the same
> result.

Thanks, I will look into this soon if no one beats me up to it.
--0000000000006fd47d05b3fdb623-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16053719645234 (code B ref 44604); Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2020 16:39:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdyaC-0001MM-Fn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:39:24 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdyaA-0001M7-Nr for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:39:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rllSDhDWXS9kgM1UgsKQt/xB9WB231GeOC1x1BKKuZc=; b=akTgZXuxuryItLUgH5Rs31FIna 7IqzXEF353WkOVetOd7Fp+u3IyRzc5eGiVs90QhqBQ8RA8H/ObuCyUZscWbG9siYjx2cuKsF+EwsX 5CRjenZBmxTkkc/iG8zbzci44UMZDix0YV/83A+VrPVTQxvtnecgjk3b8kXlZb1XVrsQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdya0-0000ot-To; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:39:16 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: Genesis's _Duke_: "Duke's End" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:39:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Fatih Aydin's message of "Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:19:00 +0000") Message-ID: <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Fatih Aydin writes: > Additional info: When I try to connect a website using eww, I again get this > message a few more times while the website is loading: > Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Fatih Aydin writes: > Additional info: When I try to connect a website using eww, I again get this > message a few more times while the website is loading: > Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT So it doesn't sound like this has anything to do with GPG, but is a problem with whatever you're using as an HTTP(S) proxy? Do you have a step-by-step recipe for reproducing this error, starting from "emacs -Q"? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih Aydin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160537381416626 (code B ref 44604); Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2020 17:10:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdz41-0004K6-JZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:10:13 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-f44.google.com ([209.85.208.44]:45215) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdz3z-0004Js-Fc for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:10:11 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-f44.google.com with SMTP id q3so14333271edr.12 for <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:10:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=g5aslwuyUba2s1da8ssNqv76Ek/CEKpJkAtP4aDom9c=; b=MpnXv2q8uRZw1q0P33admGrT0r0yDBQES1jsdYEiCLYtJglynnLW5wcujhtQJoJA+I YTl9vqSX4KDdavfavV/Yhhs3f1HdozfpKZAMzTeAkKSqLpE3PytPlZE/ZLuUXyQVwdtr 8MGfJ6aT2h0pxjAea5go8xjKrZCv4QrE80ko+Vb/RC+05h4VJ4pKp26Ng98GAk2ZWWr1 uDYtsl+DTvFXsGvMBydYOJjdQquPdEIv3LpluIeB2tAyXopjcUd2kUUUVsJx8ARbbiL1 FxXHFITlx6bZxo04EHpdlQlMCXjCmOxy2jImDXEvUG0j0YdcUtNkvbMtUU3Nj9/cpf8w 340g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=g5aslwuyUba2s1da8ssNqv76Ek/CEKpJkAtP4aDom9c=; b=j3pUjdYTRJ/gBP4KobuPyMi64TbXqo7ub8eDKArGUairTtz+eDPrgVqNveqaNspdTq cA0+tJ2nnPgQOTjEOEbfEXFVkT1rqq1ompx+bX05hepZKJhzAUsgzXN9exzwdu/DDOap d2W18djV+B2csgIlB9bT7q88mB5rvKH2HjE+a1R0F0v+QIWPZ9W9T3rs63yB2iK2N7rm HEuar6lLSLhy6rzN5PhjJRnfVxX+PNaEjYI6+xYu+0HFKCZ0dfhygdmHt/7br9fPskSS ZzClMTKLwqb6Fn35salrymgPivTJx+ZAGXdPV065SLbpCyRvftqsUljKsBCVuUtX6epB 92og== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5331shimu2KldDOPtYsi3LzisLG2q93zwDg5tuPVYjupZuniFMdV ayTGOUSsJACnplHApmrHoIvJ2QItshcMmRtrw5E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx2YclkerbfKP99a7T5IHCIWQaEfdQ8eucatRK3TTSIukndCNwtPXhWfGDYG/o9WY1tuHttW/0SGPmzAjPABYo= X-Received: by 2002:a50:cc48:: with SMTP id n8mr8501275edi.137.1605373805627; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 09:10:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> From: Fatih Aydin Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:09:54 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006a8a7005b4143737" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --0000000000006a8a7005b4143737 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yes, you are right Lars, I've also realized that this is an error from proxy.el file. I don't use any kind of proxy, the steps are really simple to produce this error. Step 1: Run 'emacs -Q' Step 2: M-x and type 'set-language-environment'. Write the value 'Turkish'. Step 3: M-x and 'eww'. Try to visit 'google.com' or any website you want. That's all, you'll get a couple of 'Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT' On step 2, I've tried a bunch of different languages, the only problematic one is Turkish. On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Fatih Aydin writes: > > > Additional info: When I try to connect a website using eww, I again get > this > > message a few more times while the website is loading: > > Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT > > So it doesn't sound like this has anything to do with GPG, but is a > problem with whatever you're using as an HTTP(S) proxy? > > Do you have a step-by-step recipe for reproducing this error, starting > from "emacs -Q"? > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > --0000000000006a8a7005b4143737 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, you are right Lars, I've also= realized that this is an error from proxy.el file.
I don't us= e any kind of proxy, the steps are really simple to produce this error.
=
Step 1: Run 'emacs -Q'
Step 2: M-x and type '= ;set-language-environment'. Write the value 'Turkish'.
Step 3: M-x and 'eww'. Try to visit 'google.com' or any website you want.

Th= at's all, you'll get a couple of 'Emergency (url): Unknown prox= y directive: DIRECT'
On step 2, I've tried a bunch of= different languages, the only problematic one is Turkish.
<= br>
On Sat,= Nov 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
Fatih Aydin <fataydin138@gmail.com> writes:

> Additional info: When I try to connect a website using eww, I again ge= t this
> message a few more times while the website is loading:
> Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT

So it doesn't sound like this has anything to do with GPG, but is a
problem with whatever you're using as an HTTP(S) proxy?

Do you have a step-by-step recipe for reproducing this error, starting
from "emacs -Q"?

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
--0000000000006a8a7005b4143737-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160537630220464 (code B ref 44604); Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2020 17:51:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51934 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdziA-0005K0-8H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:51:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59158) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdzi8-0005Jm-Gm for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:51:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58724) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdzi3-0004sI-5P; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:51:35 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2691 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdzi2-00072D-J2; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 12:51:34 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:51:22 +0200 Message-Id: <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Fatih Aydin on Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:09:54 +0000) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Fatih Aydin > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:09:54 +0000 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > > Step 1: Run 'emacs -Q' > Step 2: M-x and type 'set-language-environment'. Write the value 'Turkish'. > Step 3: M-x and 'eww'. Try to visit 'google.com' or any website you want. > > That's all, you'll get a couple of 'Emergency (url): Unknown proxy directive: DIRECT' The problem is in url-proxy.el: url-default-find-proxy-for-url returns "DIRECT", but url-find-proxy-for-url tests for "^direct": (cond ((string-match "^direct" proxy) nil) url-find-proxy-for-url binds case-fold-search to t, believing that this would take care of the case difference, but that is false for Turkish, because under the Turkish language-environment, we get: (downcase ?I) => ?ı IOW, 'I' downcases into the dotless i. Does anyone understand why url-proxy insists on using the likes of "^direct" instead of "^DIRECT", i.e. why it doesn't match the case as well? From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih Aydin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16053823365442 (code B ref 44604); Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2020 19:32:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52050 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ke1HU-0001Ph-Cw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:32:16 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-f45.google.com ([209.85.208.45]:41345) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ke1HS-0001PT-HU for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:32:15 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-f45.google.com with SMTP id t9so14602696edq.8 for <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:32:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fQ8sbaz167iLC61RhgJ0myFfRRGCELMFueqoLVA/WhM=; b=ho9Kos5HmRbSw47myo8pX2+8oky/LVrYhMZ3oa0uhQNoWPTEqttrRgIcq/BY9AQLeG RXuMSYJ+puy3bElytN378p03DD+2L4/ROkttrd0NsWTFwhWQ5/DSGt7bGZxY+DeFwbBt 0snEPRGgorgqgmijZfh+AfMBtFqq6dXyt+CokHHHiyFM0h0zhIBov0IO/uMv5MSzSVTl 535bEDynpcjGvBrI4VKPXD7cVoKx1qqTapbkugu5fIg8biwVlARejCT+e/uFzPRooe/8 W5MAeWHnrF0DuxCshPuJNYlYsaYzM95e9DThVbc6yMDpkdda86Sm1QWAc8/HzdlJrnLH OynQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fQ8sbaz167iLC61RhgJ0myFfRRGCELMFueqoLVA/WhM=; b=PtZNo55Yl/nlaEzoh/THM6EbipmBc5+PRiI0LZA0PTnje7/7UYDQ80PLDhq8NfBfeg hQUuTiWLhgXVhoBKNErRm8jJaA7gj0UDBi95gtVekj5uwYRPDL5xLxsIIu4+jBvgC7+W Hd0XRZ98gWvTb4jgIz1ASwqNyJvvi8wiYONHVqXsNoEznAkpmAETC+G06cGxXbJNfano zXXT+X+mX8V0IgDH0ttST0VusBkYzK1szpzA4THW8wu+cGj7mzkGs2WS7yxVlRBDNp9j lAVlt/16pbtV04UeoNckTCORVUaJGeEAe92fdDUpX9KKfhe+hTrsAaOHI4NVznhoBNZ3 0UwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5311PhA5EA/bOBfVWLpvsbBYBUhqC1ggIITpAObaeAjCqW8MwFYm As7yOCsVDtVqU93mGUrHfX9V15QLz44q06gyGUQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzd5G0xXEymVWvTrEqI9U2YJyKL1ehK9VWISQXjY5Z/O8CANQdYjMjYXEBMSqJGrrz6UFl1FqeUUbaBVprkvsI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:411:: with SMTP id q17mr8801397edv.125.1605382328690; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 11:32:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Fatih Aydin Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:31:56 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006e2d7e05b416333c" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --0000000000006e2d7e05b416333c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To make sure that it will solve the problem, I have applied the solution you suggested. Copied the source and changed '^direct' to '^DIRECT' and builded. The proxy problem is solved, but the package-install gpg problem I mentioned (Error while verifying signature archive-contents.sig:) is still there. Also I found another weird bug related to this: with English language environment visit 'https://www.google.com.tr' using eww, you will see the Turkish characters correctly. with Turkish language environment, do the same thing, you will see weird characters instead of Turkish characters. On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 5:51 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Fatih Aydin > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:09:54 +0000 > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Step 1: Run 'emacs -Q' > > Step 2: M-x and type 'set-language-environment'. Write the value > 'Turkish'. > > Step 3: M-x and 'eww'. Try to visit 'google.com' or any website you > want. > > > > That's all, you'll get a couple of 'Emergency (url): Unknown proxy > directive: DIRECT' > > The problem is in url-proxy.el: url-default-find-proxy-for-url returns > "DIRECT", but url-find-proxy-for-url tests for "^direct": > > (cond > ((string-match "^direct" proxy) nil) > > url-find-proxy-for-url binds case-fold-search to t, believing that > this would take care of the case difference, but that is false for > Turkish, because under the Turkish language-environment, we get: > > (downcase ?I) =3D> ?=C4=B1 > > IOW, 'I' downcases into the dotless i. > > Does anyone understand why url-proxy insists on using the likes of > "^direct" instead of "^DIRECT", i.e. why it doesn't match the case as > well? > --0000000000006e2d7e05b416333c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To make sure that it will solve t= he problem, I have applied the solution you suggested.
Copied the = source and changed '^direct' to '^DIRECT' and builded.
<= br>
The proxy problem is solved, but the package-install gpg problem I= mentioned (Error while verifying signature archive-contents.sig:) is still= there.

Also I found another weird bug related to this:
with English language environment visit 'https://www.google.com.tr' using eww, you will see the T= urkish characters correctly.
with Turkish language environment, do= the same thing, you will see weird characters instead of Turkish character= s.


On Sat, Nov 14, 2020= at 5:51 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Fatih Aydin <fataydin138@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:09:54 +0000
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Step 1: Run 'emacs -Q'
> Step 2: M-x and type 'set-language-environment'. Write the val= ue 'Turkish'.
> Step 3: M-x and 'eww'. Try to visit 'google.com' or any we= bsite you want.
>
> That's all, you'll get a couple of 'Emergency (url): Unkno= wn proxy directive: DIRECT'

The problem is in url-proxy.el: url-default-find-proxy-for-url returns
"DIRECT", but url-find-proxy-for-url tests for "^direct"= ;:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (cond
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0((string-match "^direct" proxy) nil)

url-find-proxy-for-url binds case-fold-search to t, believing that
this would take care of the case difference, but that is false for
Turkish, because under the Turkish language-environment, we get:

=C2=A0 (downcase ?I) =3D> ?=C4=B1

IOW, 'I' downcases into the dotless i.

Does anyone understand why url-proxy insists on using the likes of
"^direct" instead of "^DIRECT", i.e. why it doesn't= match the case as
well?
--0000000000006e2d7e05b416333c-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16053833566918 (code B ref 44604); Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2020 19:49:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52062 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ke1Xw-0001nV-Gp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:49:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ke1Xv-0001nJ-Sd for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:49:16 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60282) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ke1Xq-0004U5-Fd; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:49:10 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2340 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ke1Xp-0000Ss-SS; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:49:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 21:48:57 +0200 Message-Id: <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Fatih Aydin on Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:31:56 +0000) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Fatih Aydin > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:31:56 +0000 > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > > To make sure that it will solve the problem, I have applied the solution you suggested. > Copied the source and changed '^direct' to '^DIRECT' and builded. > > The proxy problem is solved, but the package-install gpg problem I mentioned (Error while verifying signature > archive-contents.sig:) is still there. > > Also I found another weird bug related to this: > with English language environment visit 'https://www.google.com.tr' using eww, you will see the Turkish > characters correctly. > with Turkish language environment, do the same thing, you will see weird characters instead of Turkish > characters. The ELisp manual says: Some language environments modify the case conversions of ASCII characters; for example, in the Turkish language environment, the ASCII capital I is downcased into a Turkish dotless i (‘ı’). This can interfere with code that requires ordinary ASCII case conversion, such as implementations of ASCII-based network protocols. In that case, use the ‘with-case-table’ macro with the variable ASCII-CASE-TABLE, which stores the unmodified case table for the ASCII character set. I guess we need to use this around forms that implement network protocols. At least this doesn't seem to help: M-: (with-case-table ascii-case-table (eww "https://www.google.com.tr")) RET From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih =?UTF-8?Q?Ayd=C4=B1n?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 21:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org, Fatih Aydin Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160547714226775 (code B ref 44604); Sun, 15 Nov 2020 21:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2020 21:52:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kePwa-0006xl-7S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 16:52:21 -0500 Received: from mail-io1-f44.google.com ([209.85.166.44]:45520) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1keP1G-0005Nn-Fj for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 15:53:07 -0500 Received: by mail-io1-f44.google.com with SMTP id u21so15208796iol.12 for <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 12:53:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mZLLWQhyTWb1nqIuE7GSKHVe6pR5qQczX/wbgUcIjz0=; b=o1CJX47FwCWHUefkFHVGTFkscDih84wFuMx8JB9ijZI8VAZHnkVEokrviZSa6TwBP9 TSaWP+wmMuXAfmZ0fUl5mL1FpMRKoETrhRVSHdnmP9KwGLSdS993Eu5pnQn4sqg3Nnka 04ybGWn4W4o9E+ao7cd1Y/bReMpE6S1hMGj1MU3mSwxQHoqTJtbvur2tkOj8Dzb1vNnN FYScmFsoB+s1RrbzZpfg5xbXoW9iFYkSwvT3vRZxTMgVp9ktoFyTGedvlhZgq5WDKrab ELJNcFJRRT1IFBA+C7ZufmJpn3/R5F1Fk4fUZYQOO9xsUiISWthFmkqg1RBy+Sz4TL9S LOTQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mZLLWQhyTWb1nqIuE7GSKHVe6pR5qQczX/wbgUcIjz0=; b=OyvVPKk8Sv6fBULwK6LIB5wqUxFO5wxIgW3VQVgna/9Zv7hBnQhKJ/Q+Gq9NtWIhmu vnVPsRs+GGBypRHlVMoPBn3H594UiRf90pm5Ul8d22piTRLy4BlRSKU8gZVYs1upml4A OD0BuFIBcwcBanRGLoIFJbyh3DTZ68bd11f4Tpwjn5kjQjtMC9q2QlpPJQe513bML1ej txgEZ587qqDeAkHZHF1A8FHDOCVKCiNiJ21iXOEih4gkkonX/2JBSnpA4mlF4aCrTiBR pQ8hux2Wzha054zh6CzCbmF7A6v1EYux5yXIZbVN5SpMxt9wDomX/0Y/EW503vQ8bbwJ Kyng== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530oWBhf/h8Ct+ZlsRjfeCWoMdarAeroRnp6YeS0MGkMcpSDoyxx AGD1ZSOvb0z8AVupgkyK3ubpHWuHRgPdQ2fn2SE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyZBul4B5hHuhoQRTsJFcdEY2MKnaRJC7C4i8YJF0C4JuO6h5TOJOXAZ86ADUbKXol23Kv8cbl7O3N0SJeKt0k= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:dc0f:: with SMTP id s15mr5889271ioc.180.1605473580770; Sun, 15 Nov 2020 12:53:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Fatih =?UTF-8?Q?Ayd=C4=B1n?= Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 20:52:49 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007a68ba05b42b727a" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 16:52:18 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --0000000000007a68ba05b42b727a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there something I can do to help with the process of solving this problem? Also do you think that this will solved in the next release? Eli Zaretskii , 14 Kas 2020 Cmt, 19:49 tarihinde =C5=9Funu ya= zd=C4=B1: > > From: Fatih Aydin > > Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:31:56 +0000 > > Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > To make sure that it will solve the problem, I have applied the solutio= n > you suggested. > > Copied the source and changed '^direct' to '^DIRECT' and builded. > > > > The proxy problem is solved, but the package-install gpg problem I > mentioned (Error while verifying signature > > archive-contents.sig:) is still there. > > > > Also I found another weird bug related to this: > > with English language environment visit 'https://www.google.com.tr' > using eww, you will see the Turkish > > characters correctly. > > with Turkish language environment, do the same thing, you will see weir= d > characters instead of Turkish > > characters. > > The ELisp manual says: > > Some language environments modify the case conversions of ASCII > characters; for example, in the Turkish language environment, the ASCII > capital I is downcased into a Turkish dotless i (=E2=80=98=C4=B1=E2=80= =99). This can > interfere with code that requires ordinary ASCII case conversion, such > as implementations of ASCII-based network protocols. In that case, use > the =E2=80=98with-case-table=E2=80=99 macro with the variable ASCII-CAS= E-TABLE, which > stores the unmodified case table for the ASCII character set. > > I guess we need to use this around forms that implement network > protocols. At least this doesn't seem to help: > > M-: (with-case-table ascii-case-table (eww "https://www.google.com.tr")) > RET > --0000000000007a68ba05b42b727a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there something I can do to help with the process = of solving this problem?
Also do you think that this will solved = in the next release?

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 14 Kas 2020 Cmt, 19:49 tarihinde =C5=9Funu yazd=C4= =B1:
> From: = Fatih Aydin <= fataydin138@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 19:31:56 +0000
> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> To make sure that it will solve the problem, I have applied the soluti= on you suggested.
> Copied the source and changed '^direct' to '^DIRECT' a= nd builded.
>
> The proxy problem is solved, but the package-install gpg problem I men= tioned (Error while verifying signature
> archive-contents.sig:) is still there.
>
> Also I found another weird bug related to this:
> with English language environment visit 'https://www.google.com.tr= ' using eww, you will see the Turkish
> characters correctly.
> with Turkish language environment, do the same thing, you will see wei= rd characters instead of Turkish
> characters.

The ELisp manual says:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Some language environments modify the case conversions = of ASCII
=C2=A0 characters; for example, in the Turkish language environment, the AS= CII
=C2=A0 capital I is downcased into a Turkish dotless i (=E2=80=98=C4=B1=E2= =80=99).=C2=A0 This can
=C2=A0 interfere with code that requires ordinary ASCII case conversion, su= ch
=C2=A0 as implementations of ASCII-based network protocols.=C2=A0 In that c= ase, use
=C2=A0 the =E2=80=98with-case-table=E2=80=99 macro with the variable ASCII-= CASE-TABLE, which
=C2=A0 stores the unmodified case table for the ASCII character set.

I guess we need to use this around forms that implement network
protocols.=C2=A0 At least this doesn't seem to help:

=C2=A0M-: (with-case-table ascii-case-table (eww "https://www.google.c= om.tr")) RET
--0000000000007a68ba05b42b727a-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 16:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih =?UTF-8?Q?Ayd=C4=B1n?= Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org, fataydin138@gmail.com Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16055434069450 (code B ref 44604); Mon, 16 Nov 2020 16:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2020 16:16:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56860 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kehBN-0002SJ-MJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:16:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:60400) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kehBM-0002Rk-6A for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:16:44 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kehBG-00023o-RB; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:16:38 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2461 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kehBD-0004Me-Oy; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 11:16:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:16:29 +0200 Message-Id: <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Fatih =?UTF-8?Q?Ayd=C4=B1n?= on Sun, 15 Nov 2020 20:52:49 +0000) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Fatih Aydın > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 20:52:49 +0000 > Cc: Fatih Aydin , larsi@gnus.org, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > > Is there something I can do to help with the process of solving this problem? Since the problem is easily reproducible, I think we can take it from here, thanks. > Also do you think that this will solved in the next release? If you mean 27.2, definitely not. If you mean 28.1, the next major release, I hope so. I think we need a new infrastructure for solving this. 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In org-mode I've realized some variables like #TITLE:, :PROPERTIES: don't work. I guess no variable works if it has 'i' in it. On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 4:16 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Fatih Ayd=C4=B1n > > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 20:52:49 +0000 > > Cc: Fatih Aydin , larsi@gnus.org, > 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Is there something I can do to help with the process of solving this > problem? > > Since the problem is easily reproducible, I think we can take it from > here, thanks. > > > Also do you think that this will solved in the next release? > > If you mean 27.2, definitely not. If you mean 28.1, the next major > release, I hope so. > > I think we need a new infrastructure for solving this. > --000000000000f9506b05b43f90c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To make things clear, the problem is not only wi= th the network protocols.
In org-mode I've realized some varia= bles like #TITLE:, :PROPERTIES: don't work.
I guess no va= riable works if it has 'i' in it.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at = 4:16 PM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org&= gt; wrote:
> = From: Fatih Ayd=C4=B1n <fatihaydin138@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2020 20:52:49 +0000
> Cc: Fatih Aydin <fataydin138@gmail.com>, larsi@gnus.org, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> Is there something I can do to help with the process of solving this p= roblem?

Since the problem is easily reproducible, I think we can take it from
here, thanks.

> Also do you think that this will solved in the next release?

If you mean 27.2, definitely not.=C2=A0 If you mean 28.1, the next major release, I hope so.

I think we need a new infrastructure for solving this.
--000000000000f9506b05b43f90c7-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Fatih =?UTF-8?Q?Ayd=C4=B1n?= , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org, fataydin138@gmail.com Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160556197816576 (code B ref 44604); Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:27:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2020 21:26:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kem0w-0004JH-HM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 16:26:18 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kem0r-0004Iz-Vr for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 16:26:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=w5znohhNbuHX9+Rmv5odjDCsvTi8FKilNJAQ6D3i5kc=; b=mEtKwcykyFBDeAD1hhx+EQlHFi MU+ufmI6VYe2rQiVMQaK0/kswWTsQgqeeTE+CMOiebUncbZGHMqwQBVayITyhRZgW4NcuiCg0HG4K 8kshbpfVoENdS4gURsoRsd3vaqVuo+9iswMjfV4Ht2N15JAQjIx6h0B/o4h2koaUabDk=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kem0i-0005Vh-DO; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:26:07 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEUtKSgeHR1GQjhi WlGSg3LXyrn///+uCZ/EAAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+QLEBUTN6V3ELwAAAGnSURBVDjL pZRBk9sgDIUF3t5xm94JpHcb4Xti4N6J0f//Kysg8ZLJ+tCpDplxvkjvGb0A8M+lQBtppJbvxBht uN57NMj6+Sh0iFifuim6+4V6myAbfANYZh34PKjBme87DEgD/1P6CKxPM+P4YkvEI5d+nyVeJZbr gXaavj+AXzS/SO6KF7pi18POKhrBxtVn9TwK8RilvI6T9ATSti45jRV4umf4GWkSenAFfFwrGBLR XUFIN6mhTBNWFA3hiegvMJif2x/H2hErkFuad/HqStYOY7c/s5W6B5bBHUOcwPKT3gHYIu5j3JQt VnV9sQIkA/IxZYXFfJfiIkKU6FwBR1NDGWVaC9fUYmP31cj2fT6zOFx0t/+lEUKn0fbBGGgrnmlt +R+e2xC4bHKhFLCpDPu+lkQWU1ijs6aY2Uf94PE3H1yMAdHPX+A3UQhpM56ui/PTFzixV5a2EcAp 25b1yEip7RLLg1Pdv6CBlEsOjFJ7rkQ9k0yZ1RnUA26AXz1jLJVubPe8J/FUVsVOA/q76SOqiMqF gGjC9nKriI+VrxquE2bu4FGfuFNXAOaabmkAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjAtMTEtMTZU MjE6MTk6NTUrMDA6MDBxlbeqAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTExLTE2VDIxOjE5OjU1 KzAwOjAwAMgPFgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Various's _Amchitka (1)_: "Phil Ochs - Joe Hill" Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:26:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 16 Nov 2020 18:16:29 +0200") Message-ID: <871rgtxac5.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think we need a new infrastructure for solving this. Looks that way -- we're using the same functions to handle human-input text (i.e., commands like `M-u') as API/protocol text (comparing DIRECT and direct by downcasing), and that's problematic. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think we need a new infrastructure for solving this. Looks that way -- we're using the same functions to handle human-input text (i.e., commands like `M-u') as API/protocol text (comparing DIRECT and direct by downcasing), and that's problematic. So we'd have to add a bunch of functions to handle stuff like this, but it seems like a rather daunting task. Or we could do something simple, like having a buffer-local variable that says "the characters in this buffer are protocol data" and which would make the locale the "C" locale? Hm... there'd probably be some messy fallout from that, too. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 03:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16055833631761 (code B ref 44604); Tue, 17 Nov 2020 03:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2020 03:22:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57980 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kerZq-0000SK-CN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:22:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36378) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kerZj-0000S0-5K for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:22:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47128) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kerZd-0007LN-SV; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:22:29 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3724 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kerZd-0003vB-82; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:22:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 05:22:24 +0200 Message-Id: <834klosm4v.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Fatih Aydin on Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:53:00 +0000) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Fatih Aydin > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:53:00 +0000 > Cc: Fatih Aydın , > Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > > To make things clear, the problem is not only with the network protocols. > In org-mode I've realized some variables like #TITLE:, :PROPERTIES: don't work. > I guess no variable works if it has 'i' in it. Yes, any such text that needs to be downcased will cause similar problem in this language environment. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 03:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: fatihaydin138@gmail.com, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16055838344587 (code B ref 44604); Tue, 17 Nov 2020 03:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2020 03:30:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kerhR-0001BZ-VS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:30:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37686) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kerhO-00012u-8t for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:30:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:47217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kerhI-0008OH-SB; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:30:24 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4201 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kerhH-0003gW-2w; Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:30:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 05:30:17 +0200 Message-Id: <831rgsslrq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871rgtxac5.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:26:02 +0100) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <871rgtxac5.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Fatih Aydın , > fataydin138@gmail.com, > 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:26:02 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I think we need a new infrastructure for solving this. > > Looks that way -- we're using the same functions to handle human-input > text (i.e., commands like `M-u') as API/protocol text (comparing DIRECT > and direct by downcasing), and that's problematic. > > So we'd have to add a bunch of functions to handle stuff like this, but > it seems like a rather daunting task. > > Or we could do something simple, like having a buffer-local variable > that says "the characters in this buffer are protocol data" and which > would make the locale the "C" locale? Hm... there'd probably be some > messy fallout from that, too. I thought about something rather simple: a global variable, let's name it overriding-case-table, that will be heeded to by the various case conversions ('downcase' etc.) in preference to any other case-table. Then commands that need strict ASCII case rules could bind that variable, or we could use with-case-table macro, without fear that different buffers will behave in different ways. I didn't look at the code yet, so maybe this simple idea is not workable. But if it is, it should be very simple to implement. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 05:17:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: fatihaydin138@gmail.com, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160619498513441 (code B ref 44604); Tue, 24 Nov 2020 05:17:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2020 05:16:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52102 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khQgj-0003Ui-D4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 00:16:25 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khQgi-0003UW-7B for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 00:16:24 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UA2HUqTOVJCBzOEjloWC3BuiviMifsEGfMa+9/ia+qo=; b=mj18U2N/QoXTTiSCKOgxOm8s+l Vkt4VW8n3+FO32q64ksiHQ39UTDxaJVPDCxbkRpdlWtilsc5vR+75Pu240V9GcBhFujQaLWDQ8+aa KzHuhhzwBh+AB4U8qamXoXuZI1pm9gbqP3X+/pdmiHjpXhOwwMzTEL0KbQtMEItXltw0=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1khQgZ-0008Cz-Ew; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:16:18 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <871rgtxac5.fsf@gnus.org> <831rgsslrq.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: The B-52's's _Wild Planet_: "53 Miles West Of Venus" Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:16:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <831rgsslrq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 Nov 2020 05:30:17 +0200") Message-ID: <87blfne3mp.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I thought about something rather simple: a global variable, let's name > it overriding-case-table, that will be heeded to by the various case > conversions ('downcase' etc.) in preference to any oth [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I thought about something rather simple: a global variable, let's name > it overriding-case-table, that will be heeded to by the various case > conversions ('downcase' etc.) in preference to any other case-table. > Then commands that need strict ASCII case rules could bind that > variable, or we could use with-case-table macro, without fear that > different buffers will behave in different ways. Yeah, that sounds like a better solution. It basically means that all code that does code conversion (for protocol reasons) will need to be wrapped with that binding, and there's a lot of it in Emacs -- I'm guessing there's more code that needs wrapping than needs to be unwrapped. Which is a pain. But I guess just having interactive cases of `downcase' and friends heed the case table, and otherwise ignore it, isn't really workable either? That'd be a lot less code to fix. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: fatihaydin138@gmail.com, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160623125719387 (code B ref 44604); Tue, 24 Nov 2020 15:21:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2020 15:20:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60904 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kha7l-00052d-Ja for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:20:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40140) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kha7k-00052P-5N for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:20:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kha7e-0007f1-Rz; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:20:50 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2211 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kha7c-0004B5-7a; Tue, 24 Nov 2020 10:20:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 17:20:47 +0200 Message-Id: <83zh36u6gg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87blfne3mp.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:16:14 +0100) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <871rgtxac5.fsf@gnus.org> <831rgsslrq.fsf@gnu.org> <87blfne3mp.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: fatihaydin138@gmail.com, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2020 06:16:14 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I thought about something rather simple: a global variable, let's name > > it overriding-case-table, that will be heeded to by the various case > > conversions ('downcase' etc.) in preference to any other case-table. > > Then commands that need strict ASCII case rules could bind that > > variable, or we could use with-case-table macro, without fear that > > different buffers will behave in different ways. > > Yeah, that sounds like a better solution. It basically means that all > code that does code conversion (for protocol reasons) will need to be > wrapped with that binding, and there's a lot of it in Emacs -- I'm > guessing there's more code that needs wrapping than needs to be > unwrapped. > > Which is a pain. But I guess just having interactive cases of > `downcase' and friends heed the case table, and otherwise ignore it, > isn't really workable either? That'd be a lot less code to fix. I think the use cases that need to heed the buffer's case-table are more than just interactive invocations of those commands. But we need to audit the uses, because if it turns out the amount of those who do need the buffer's case-table is significantly smaller, it is they which would need to bind something, and not vice versa. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 06:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: fatihaydin138@gmail.com, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160628517022839 (code B ref 44604); Wed, 25 Nov 2020 06:20:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2020 06:19:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33960 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kho9K-0005wI-25 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 01:19:30 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kho9H-0005w4-Vz for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 01:19:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uCGbK9ka2/u3ZmqR6rfcNDcI0qdJzdxk5DuTk6c9vWY=; b=eSoikDrwglwPJWvtAbYSeKoGAX 5v6rEcczpe0/bhnxc+K4ZZw6SMHtMtCYqC01qgu73a/ij5F6JJCgpjcgNsubM/bbbeXrrA2IRl3U7 I4TOgncQGfMJRPD96HEMMZDmHcgqI2rWDRia90L+4lnmB4pnLPDAiQqJgpFwhZhxyeOU=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kho99-00049F-5m; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:19:21 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <871rgtxac5.fsf@gnus.org> <831rgsslrq.fsf@gnu.org> <87blfne3mp.fsf@gnus.org> <83zh36u6gg.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEVwUh6odBTblRP4 qRO7gRX////jZM1jAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+QLGAokM+DTuDMAAAG5SURBVDjLlVTR leMwCMx2sBA1IFADxm4AWf3XdIOQHe++u4/T80M4mBkGpLy+KNf369fS/e/rXwFFYIXMrt/gzwwW LNOtxYani9QZ8OKFahgnmF7gzkAkSDtlrfk+A5NFEnzC3xybiDrAOTiOMG0GaKulEI1GZbBXdx6L wxIcm0o3VXiLY4LawofVVP7Gp0ePnKohqGrPDB5Og4KGulMlb04fHbk0tS8doWD1afLkS2RwH7Xj u8qtSxNYjYAxcQX+QKuEyId38iw3oFOITh79cOz7PS84unTEF1pXUcKiZ8sMUnKOdoUlCHpXngED qs5+aU81Jr8Pg372pVyrrQbP2hIqjttU4oyRUHEtj5knh1kJ/7w5Vqsk53/3yoQypcsps7AkL+h/ GZsPsAjDh/eYuV0Tsftc3WNePEkyq8pO9ZAMu8uWGYUY6MCmfhSvg+nSgXxpUc1+xCD1xzwWvun+ 0AHsQ5IF57dCSx5qGqVXXA0H/hszJ+/16pWZvBvPxqIyU3tw6GPui4NjhJF0xgU07VcGMRY6hLsH QXziWTr6LH1WdR2Vm+Npbw55vusj8H//Jfvr57X5wP4Bkm26cKoLlmcAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3Jl YXRlADIwMjAtMTEtMjRUMTA6MzY6NTErMDA6MDBZcPNMAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIw LTExLTI0VDEwOjM2OjUxKzAwOjAwKC1L8AAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Section 25's _Always Now_: "Loose Talk (Costs Lives)" Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:19:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83zh36u6gg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Nov 2020 17:20:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87y2iq0xi1.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think the use cases that need to heed the buffer's case-table are > more than just interactive invocations of those commands. But we need > to audit the uses, because if it turns out the amount of [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think the use cases that need to heed the buffer's case-table are > more than just interactive invocations of those commands. But we need > to audit the uses, because if it turns out the amount of those who do > need the buffer's case-table is significantly smaller, it is they > which would need to bind something, and not vice versa. Yup. I'm not sure where to start, though -- it sounds like a pretty major headache whichever way we do this... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: fatihaydin138@gmail.com, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16063178653870 (code B ref 44604); Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2020 15:24:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36703 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khwee-00010M-Qv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:24:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54266) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1khwed-000101-8X for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:24:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46069) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1khweY-00012E-1H; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:24:18 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2887 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1khweW-0006xj-AR; Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:24:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 17:24:18 +0200 Message-Id: <83pn41sbml.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87y2iq0xi1.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:19:18 +0100) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <871rgtxac5.fsf@gnus.org> <831rgsslrq.fsf@gnu.org> <87blfne3mp.fsf@gnus.org> <83zh36u6gg.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2iq0xi1.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: fatihaydin138@gmail.com, 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:19:18 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I think the use cases that need to heed the buffer's case-table are > > more than just interactive invocations of those commands. But we need > > to audit the uses, because if it turns out the amount of those who do > > need the buffer's case-table is significantly smaller, it is they > > which would need to bind something, and not vice versa. > > Yup. I'm not sure where to start, though -- it sounds like a pretty > major headache whichever way we do this... It could be. But maybe we will be able to find a simple solution. I'm thinking about alternatives, but so far I have no better ideas. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih Aydin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.160682082810646 (code B ref 44604); Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2020 11:07:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58045 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kk3Uy-0002lc-DB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 06:07:08 -0500 Received: from mail-ej1-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:35157) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kk3Uw-0002lF-Pd for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 06:07:07 -0500 Received: by mail-ej1-f44.google.com with SMTP id f23so3303140ejk.2 for <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:07:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Wx6htvYzkcUfdWDnCQKJJHEKtAR+xVbLYD11qacEpYc=; b=t6mhaM3zVcOP9qt/cpZWiX+IXzEacJIPa0bzz6mfutVNG2VUwn3HGm6Wok6brzvUQq fUp7dnQpZzvMSPet9/aoX3daH6gPbnC88irnpeK907wQVgO4dn5zir8WKC2JBm6jArj8 HKYh8fsfoINEDwpGtODHMUYrB8kpiYe+sFYTwMLuDyAY1ac3YaG7F71q7Rq0/IKuMRI2 jW7KFyJhB/RdxCHf9mH8LaaxDZ8aW7Km1c8c076tCCPsCr/5gErjR7PQXKsUEiJC+jiw BC7dgMkDDAD8kiEXFIXa/Kpa1XPyzNsNHB6BP5aLk32YAIwgWz/T3brye7Mfd+QRM32u QZoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Wx6htvYzkcUfdWDnCQKJJHEKtAR+xVbLYD11qacEpYc=; b=iBi6mwo+BFvE/9lqYqch5ow1QSJNAaRG1fOkSMoxfW5NhXdP4OH3XZe+bodyhaghnl NNsz5StYF5Q62knR8HqNx14SX53KK51IBif0hK/lMjJCusvaY6ovKSlTSgtRENAS5r72 GG9iX5j6u1CiVUDPl7c+6LkQKYjkovOAH/Q5GZsx15WWA3Grn/5VO6/DePXPEiF6jtgU VZTMR6JUOgzCkqPt/hRdxycc0x5TBwlC86Mq0v4aaA6gGMfPlFgS4BgiaZilgTbgl8eE 6SCPuCbmHqd44JrMjZfGP0bCCs1WHhXpq5ELh2iMcMYmg9pbdC8w+JvtJI6WJvTgyxup Jlag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533KE9/waIQtk1TyPuu949rL5TZut1P378qG5xwBpSNKcDUbJgR4 iJnElVhOHanHEPToMgx1GyRCJKDsE81QPRTpI7U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwaYVQbBhJtnzgaqXbHsoPk5pFQpiBQ4Uumm491Uisg8yP1icd7TbdZCu4y4kb1zCzQ/zOQbHyMHJnnZc28vMM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:c046:: with SMTP id bm6mr2352425ejb.436.1606820820951; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:07:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <834klosm4v.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <834klosm4v.fsf@gnu.org> From: Fatih Aydin Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:06:49 +0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004028a605b5652041" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --0000000000004028a605b5652041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I will tell you an idea of mine, a new feature that can help users to solve the problem. Maybe it's silly or not doable. Let there be a new variable to define file types (according to extension) and the lang. env. for those file types. For '.el' files, English lang. env. can be assigned using that variable. That means the user will have an option to say: 'Always evaluate .el files using English language' to Emacs. --0000000000004028a605b5652041 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Let there be a new variable to define file types (according to e= xtension) and the lang. env. for those file types. For '.el' files,= English lang. env. can be assigned using that variable.
That mea= ns the user will have an option to say: 'Always evaluate .el files usin= g English language' to Emacs.
--0000000000004028a605b5652041-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 10:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.16069036579282 (code B ref 44604); Wed, 02 Dec 2020 10:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Dec 2020 10:07:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34308 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kkP2v-0002Pe-Fz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 05:07:37 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:58732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kkP2u-0002PR-GK for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 05:07:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=kPzJE7KmOunexEkLPPrVAQ22uiZIf0jz2MW1bEZLVvk=; b=pfrFaCqN5MQYmleLv2DeUiKXt6 TPcGj0OMmiCwodYCf8aPZ6ldnhZtWMFnHlvSsadbl27dnqLNzD2Ri8cckTfr/DpbUW7l5Co9gI5K+ d/Tr9hd/Gi02x+gRMgh5mpFElqPom0MpVVffOK4dWpjOhU9Em6N51A0vAiXevsvxncBc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kkP2h-0004h6-Qx; Wed, 02 Dec 2020 11:07:29 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <834klosm4v.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEXp5OKzpqKKeHVS PTv///9X6rKaAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+QMAgklKYtopboAAAGSSURBVDjLbZMLtsMg CETRbgBxA4obaHT/e3sDfpK2j9M0jdeBwRIKhEiNI9OJqBTJnwNAuUHoADP+UZDnyh8gKGUqW1G+ FMl3tvJRY6Zi/gV8in+DsH7m8lVjg1hiXbs5WY0bhLqyjMofYKUKqfWCzn8AtTau/xQkBsZxFesG quMNgM7hg5I8wRWbAQ+AGlaqBlDQudQFcIMpzjiPUQRZUtIKoC5lsh1SAXBXRLxCQrUA0EZNwTLJ AlXQc0hpDBgj3y72SSpFVNjAFUhPgFbp6qAracfjXAbIVdMGQ+b+jgvZsM2AzAY5ApinLuJgnLPS 1n3SNNdsQE2BC+m6tX5AWwqYtWGJAJeDtP5o1LT5enVpVzup7shdxgTVgWUh+3r1tEAhq30GyhQz +LFqrq8b8BqzBdpcv4j4U6ELuCLcoLbu4E3TLq3X5AA2EA1M1auOCeirxgY2u/xk+QBbfXQC0JZb 4mcy1d0epsT9LMdNp8KWps8FJG/F7ANgn8nYbu10Yc1f9gO6vxrknoN747COMPEfhaRNUtUweIMA AAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjAtMTItMDJUMDk6Mzc6NDErMDA6MDBEeQz4AAAAJXRFWHRk YXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTEyLTAyVDA5OjM3OjQxKzAwOjAwNSS0RAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: David Sylvian's _Brilliant Trees_: "Backwaters" Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2020 11:07:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Fatih Aydin's message of "Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:06:49 +0000") Message-ID: <87o8jc4j3d.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Fatih Aydin writes: > Let there be a new variable to define file types (according to extension) and the > lang. env. for those file types. For '.el' files, English lang. env. can be assigned > using that variable. > That [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Fatih Aydin writes: > Let there be a new variable to define file types (according to extension)= and the > lang. env. for those file types. For '.el' files, English lang. env. can = be assigned > using that variable. > That means the user will have an option to say: 'Always evaluate .el file= s using > English language' to Emacs. That's not really the issue -- this is always about .el files, but it's about how to handle text in different contexts. For instance, you may have a mail buffer with code that's generating mail headers, so you have a structure that contains (("MY-NAME-IS" "ASIL")) and you have code that's supposed to generate, from that, a header that looks like: My-name-is: As=C4=B1l The code has to know that the former bit is a "protocol string" and the latter bit is a "language string". --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Fatih Aydin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.161900538517837 (code B ref 44604); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2021 11:43:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57071 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZBG5-0004dd-Hd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 07:43:05 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f45.google.com ([209.85.208.45]:40667) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lZBG4-0004d9-1S for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 07:43:05 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f45.google.com with SMTP id k17so9468800edr.7 for <44604@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9djmGtDKMp7HV+7MRPoKZEuvf0+GcEdrJQShG7CudZk=; b=jXT8lq9cKZQpG1EWxNyJcAVDMJpz8c36YSdu0SPXy9OnbS8ePlqqla4pbfGAYXvhvr 2PDz0DZspK79VLV7uzeCJJLe2doh/YQSy6cGDcnEN37HqrGoSdDal531RiJRW+lSedpk xEjqos92QuRNXNHkHEolW2niYn0YwlVTqaJbfMZUTCJqaiBH+KbsazqN8uk5kEyPeXX0 2NyQ4aYutS8cPAvsvY169NdjMQuGRhW6zHG7VDpMF0JW1qmzSYufJ164nzE7Zndihe3L uZm5blWsaFrmXerIgNufEyUaa7affo43IS835XoXi6sleUTIJljrSo9QEctKsOhaiVb4 NSYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9djmGtDKMp7HV+7MRPoKZEuvf0+GcEdrJQShG7CudZk=; b=YPQ7sCzrEj61VKvZkpzx/aboXIbFMpcX05Ucx6ifYXpzWm1yi77TXSR5VyaHeleM6b TLDFxspJe7IbdqJXNtbSa6o8C52mxTa/6/GpLeMwOzskAV8mlcduAJj/momC1jzrFyWn 0frZcdeCjGx37Lr0f1olwbjwRhw7Ba3TIfy385kvXOQ18X9M1GiBDuWud7qm3odMtbhk xDwLMHzZWRavAgyagTSmfa0MHoCTpNGV64ifmiQf6yi6EJo6zgs8GiHFDYRw2B/Msmqc jKwdE++yh8lFIVM8NmFRYGH85rs3kXbRDnTMyYdh2i5uMogZSvyB89SmlQxTmFM/Z0l5 14Cw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533OB31Ei780DnxzGfDqpLrdhOpgbcVtsF4xGR96fNG6GhIyYGhN R1Pv6yqzoe93/TgaGV8IfZxJGdTJZS2WqxWjTTM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwr8Cx8A3sc3HDF5u/0nNLz2zAkJnLVoIlDf7oQO54zZ0sJNtktfikFKwHJRLW/08tH+VuvYmqwVUNPhRO5FfI= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:cf16:: with SMTP id a22mr18279241edy.23.1619005378212; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 04:42:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <834klosm4v.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8jc4j3d.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87o8jc4j3d.fsf@gnus.org> From: Fatih Aydin Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:42:47 +0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000075372905c07a10ca" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --00000000000075372905c07a10ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I keep encountering this problem with different packages, everything functions incorrectly, as you can guess. Is there any progress? On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:07 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Fatih Aydin writes: > > > Let there be a new variable to define file types (according to > extension) and the > > lang. env. for those file types. For '.el' files, English lang. env. ca= n > be assigned > > using that variable. > > That means the user will have an option to say: 'Always evaluate .el > files using > > English language' to Emacs. > > That's not really the issue -- this is always about .el files, but it's > about how to handle text in different contexts. > > For instance, you may have a mail buffer with code that's generating > mail headers, so you have a structure that contains > > (("MY-NAME-IS" "ASIL")) > > and you have code that's supposed to generate, from that, a header that > looks like: > > My-name-is: As=C4=B1l > > The code has to know that the former bit is a "protocol string" and the > latter bit is a "language string". > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > --00000000000075372905c07a10ca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I keep encountering this problem with different packages, everything functi= ons incorrectly, as you can guess. Is there any progress?

On Wed, Dec 2, 202= 0 at 1:07 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@= gnus.org> wrote:
Fatih Aydin <fataydin138@gmail.com> writes:

> Let there be a new variable to define file types (according to extensi= on) and the
> lang. env. for those file types. For '.el' files, English lang= . env. can be assigned
> using that variable.
> That means the user will have an option to say: 'Always evaluate .= el files using
> English language' to Emacs.

That's not really the issue -- this is always about .el files, but it&#= 39;s
about how to handle text in different contexts.

For instance, you may have a mail buffer with code that's generating mail headers, so you have a structure that contains

(("MY-NAME-IS" "ASIL"))

and you have code that's supposed to generate, from that, a header that=
looks like:

My-name-is: As=C4=B1l

The code has to know that the former bit is a "protocol string" a= nd the
latter bit is a "language string".

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
--00000000000075372905c07a10ca-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Fatih Aydin Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.161937710517485 (code B ref 44604); Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2021 18:58:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43787 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lajxY-0004Xx-Um for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:58:25 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lajxW-0004Xg-RW for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:58:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=f5neOK9YJbAm0QjcMlqaUztYnz1ZVBmY10jCXagdqJs=; b=Z9/1ZmGhm/eoTaLqgKWtoPC00w zEV/e1NcF5NNjt4gmQUZ5h5r2LvGCciALgmr2ClGhyHcHtuJhoNbFPKQxLLEuucyXfl/oy+vCsfX+ 5F1fBhSGmTCuIe+UOcEYAIfnKluZPp1bU2MmJqxIY3MVdS9qJLFXaUIv7cDDlyUTaIkI=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lajxN-0001Bf-N5; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:58:16 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <834klosm4v.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8jc4j3d.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Octo Octa's _Resonant Body_: "Spin Girl, Letas Activate!" Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:58:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Fatih Aydin's message of "Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:42:47 +0300") Message-ID: <87r1iyjinw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Fatih Aydin writes: > I keep encountering this problem with different packages, everything > functions incorrectly, as you can guess. Is there any progress? There's been no progress in handling the problem in general, but there's really no reason to just work around the problem by using your proposed change -- i.e., I changed the regexp from ^direct to ^D [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Fatih Aydin writes: > I keep encountering this problem with different packages, everything > functions incorrectly, as you can guess. Is there any progress? There's been no progress in handling the problem in general, but there's really no reason to just work around the problem by using your proposed change -- i.e., I changed the regexp from ^direct to ^DIRECT in Emacs 28, which should fix this specific bug. The more general problem -- separating out handling human-directed text from protocol-related text -- is a huge problem. But since this specific problem is fixed now, I'm closing this bug report. But we should probably open a more general thing for the general problem, or take it to emacs-devel. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 25 14:58:27 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2021 18:58:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lajxb-0004YB-62 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:58:27 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lajxa-0004Xn-El for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 14:58:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iLy2He/oWvxec9LPO7SquTgrz6hv50yNTsFVCdNmBnc=; b=tn3niEBnr/2kHVhC0wuXobT2Fu Q1mu7ZiXab6xs9mPduE9G8gGkWn/IB4yWcX0/Cjc8XtNDCIBsEJ3/nXy8EvH+1uB8/Pi56S/uTGoN dWeW4kYS7BDUrT5J20wH5HbE/jfq6eGj+gNrEsWCIPn7vRBXPERzUla8mxpz+cQlUJzk=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lajxS-0001Bm-UX for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:58:20 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:58:18 +0200 Message-Id: <87pmyijinp.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #44604 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 44604 fixed close 44604 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 44604 fixed close 44604 28.1 quit From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:32:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#44604: 27.1; gpg error when language environment is set to Turkish Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 44604 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 44604@debbugs.gnu.org, fataydin138@gmail.com Received: via spool by 44604-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B44604.161937741326437 (code B ref 44604); Sun, 25 Apr 2021 19:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 44604) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2021 19:03:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lak2X-0006sK-3g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:03:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50326) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lak2W-0006rw-9x for 44604@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:03:32 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41614) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lak2R-0000hv-43; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:03:27 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4940 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lak2O-0003CB-VB; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 15:03:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 22:03:07 +0300 Message-Id: <8335vekx04.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87r1iyjinw.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:58:11 +0200) References: <83blg1y8tp.fsf@gnu.org> <831rgxxxwu.fsf@gnu.org> <87mtzjyjtc.fsf@gnus.org> <83361bvnc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9bu3bq.fsf@gnu.org> <838sb1tgyq.fsf@gnu.org> <834klosm4v.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8jc4j3d.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1iyjinw.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 44604@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:58:11 +0200 > > The more general problem -- separating out handling human-directed text > from protocol-related text -- is a huge problem. But since this > specific problem is fixed now, I'm closing this bug report. But we > should probably open a more general thing for the general problem, or > take it to emacs-devel. Yes, it's a tricky problem, so maybe a general discussion will help come up with ideas.