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Wed, 11 Nov 2020 15:04:50 +0000 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 15:04:45 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Harig To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Message-ID: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: 27.1; Missing options in definition of edebug-mode in edebug.el MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4252871_1386912419.1605107085621" References: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16944 aolwebmail Mozilla/5.0 (X11; CrOS x86_64 13505.33.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/87.0.4280.47 Safari/537.36 Content-Length: 2849 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.191.204; envelope-from=idirectscm@aim.com; helo=sonic312-23.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/11 10:04:50 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 6 X-Spam_score: 0.6 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:30:30 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Mark Harig Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) ------=_Part_4252871_1386912419.1605107085621 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emacs Maintainers, =C2=A0 =C2=A0In the documentation string in define-minor-mode edebug-mode i= n edebug.el: =C2=A0 =C2=A01. The option `edebug-on-signal' is listed, but it does not ex= ist in the file. =C2=A0 =C2=A02. The following options, which are described in (elisp) Edebu= g Options, are missing:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 edebug-sit-for-seconds, edebug-= sit-on-break, edebug-behavior-alist,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 edebug-new-definit= ion-function, edebug-after-instrumentation-function As mentioned in the Subject line, this is in GNU Emacs version 27.1. --- ------=_Part_4252871_1386912419.1605107085621 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Emacs Maintainers,

   In the documentation string in define-minor-mode edebug-mode in edebug.el:

   1. The option `edebug-on-signal' is listed, but it does not exist in the file.

   2. The following options, which are described in (elisp) Edebug Options, are missing:
      edebug-sit-for-seconds, edebug-sit-on-break, edebug-behavior-alist,
      edebug-new-definition-function, edebug-after-instrumentation-function

As mentioned in the Subject line, this is in GNU Emacs version 27.1.

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The option `edebug-on-signal' is listed, but it does not = exist in the file. Indeed, I find no matches grepping in the repository for `edebug-on-signal', nor in the git log. Perhaps it should just be removed? > 2. The following options, which are described in (elisp) Edebug Options, = are missing:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 edebug-sit-for-seconds, edebug-sit-on-brea= k, edebug-behavior-alist,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 edebug-new-definition-functio= n, edebug-after-instrumentation-function Maybe instead of maintaining a list, we should just point users to `M-x customize-group RET edebug RET'. Or just remove the list and say nothing. 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Wed, 11 Nov 2020 18:16:39 +0000 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 18:16:37 +0000 (UTC) From: Mark Harig To: "stefankangas@gmail.com" , "44577@debbugs.gnu.org" <44577@debbugs.gnu.org> Message-ID: <271156580.4335434.1605118597910@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: bug#44577: 27.1; Missing options in definition of edebug-mode in edebug.el MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4335433_344507380.1605118597908" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16944 aolwebmail Mozilla/5.0 (X11; CrOS x86_64 13505.33.0) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/87.0.4280.47 Safari/537.36 Content-Length: 5188 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44577 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Mark Harig Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ------=_Part_4335433_344507380.1605118597908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Emacs Maintainers, > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0In the documentation string in define-minor-mode edebug-mo= de in edebug.el: > > =C2=A0 =C2=A01. The option `edebug-on-signal' is listed, but it does no= t exist in the file. > Indeed, I find no matches grepping in the repository for > `edebug-on-signal', nor in the git log. >=C2=A0 > Perhaps it should just be removed? Yes. That is the intent of the report, to get the non-existent option remov= ed. > > 2. The following options, which are described in (elisp) Edebug Options= , are missing:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 edebug-sit-for-sec= onds, edebug-sit-on-break, edebug-behavior-alist,> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 edebug-ne= w-definition-function, edebug-after-instrumentation-function > > Maybe instead of maintaining a list, we should just point users to `M-x > customize-group RET edebug RET'.=C2=A0 Or just remove the list and say > nothing. In edebug mode, type '?' to list help for the mode.=C2=A0=C2=A0 This will list the keys defined for the mode followed by a list of the opti= ons.The options are listed as help-mode links.=C2=A0 The links can be used = to displayhelp for each of the options, including their current value.=C2= =A0 This provides aquick method for looking up help or checking the values = of the (many) edebugoptions. --- ------=_Part_4335433_344507380.1605118597908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

> > Emacs Maintainers,
> >    In the documentation string in define-minor-mode edebug-mode in edebug.el:
> >    1. The option `edebug-on-signal' is listed, but it does not exist in the file.

> Indeed, I find no matches grepping in the repository for
> `edebug-on-signal', nor in the git log.
> 
> Perhaps it should just be removed?

Yes. That is the intent of the report, to get the non-existent option removed.

> > 2. The following options, which are described in (elisp) Edebug Options, are missing:      
> >    edebug-sit-for-seconds, edebug-sit-on-break, edebug-behavior-alist,
> >    edebug-new-definition-function, edebug-after-instrumentation-function

>
> Maybe instead of maintaining a list, we should just point users to `M-x
> customize-group RET edebug RET'.  Or just remove the list and say
> nothing.

In edebug mode, type '?' to list help for the mode.  

This will list the keys defined for the mode followed by a list of the options.
The options are listed as help-mode links.  The links can be used to display
help for each of the options, including their current value.  This provides a
quick method for looking up help or checking the values of the (many) edebug
options.

---

------=_Part_4335433_344507380.1605118597908-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 12 07:41:21 2020 Received: (at 44577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2020 12:41:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBuj-0005ww-Ic for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:21 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBuh-0005wi-Gj for 44577@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:41:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=toddmsMfXvh0AiLef3zfmK1wKhtaKm175eEVLpbPFss=; b=AMlRKk/iYSbMTAs5Pm2bPpTAtE +zVR+CIzTuiAjHfC+JRpFnQs4/JC36NnHrKphzJObGdN77t+UpWkaZ/QZ90OAZlJ1kJh3ndlCtCYn ZU8HLUjLZbp7MDf4HX+FbvMzDaihyAQpgIvZFIXfLnGyssdfZVFxVtAKxLfOIa+OQzSs=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBuY-0000wK-M7; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:41:13 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mark Harig Subject: Re: bug#44577: 27.1; Missing options in definition of edebug-mode in edebug.el References: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622@mail.yahoo.com> <271156580.4335434.1605118597910@mail.yahoo.com> X-Now-Playing: Machinedrum's _A View of U_: "Sleepy Pietro (feat. Tigran Hamasyan)" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:41:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <271156580.4335434.1605118597910@mail.yahoo.com> (Mark Harig's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 18:16:37 +0000 (UTC)") Message-ID: <871rgybvdm.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mark Harig writes: > Yes. That is the intent of the report, to get the non-existent option removed. I've now removed this from the doc string in Emacs 28. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44577 Cc: "44577@debbugs.gnu.org" <44577@debbugs.gnu.org>, "stefankangas@gmail.com" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mark Harig writes: > Yes. That is the intent of the report, to get the non-existent option removed. I've now removed this from the doc string in Emacs 28. >> Maybe instead of maintaining a list, we should just point users to `M-x >> customize-group RET edebug RET'. Or just remove the list and say >> nothing. > > In edebug mode, type '?' to list help for the mode. > > This will list the keys defined for the mode followed by a list of the options. > The options are listed as help-mode links. The links can be used to display > help for each of the options, including their current value. This provides a > quick method for looking up help or checking the values of the (many) edebug > options. 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Content preview: tags 44577 fixed close 44577 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 44577 fixed close 44577 28.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 12 08:46:43 2020 Received: (at 44577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2020 13:46:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44008 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdCvz-0003Mt-Bx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:46:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54998) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdCvw-0003Mf-Hc for 44577@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:46:41 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52034) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdCvq-0001Iu-NL; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:46:34 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4272 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdCvo-0003K9-5f; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:46:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:46:47 +0200 Message-Id: <83o8k2znzs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:22:13 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#44577: 27.1; Missing options in definition of edebug-mode in edebug.el References: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44577 Cc: 44577@debbugs.gnu.org, idirectscm@aim.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:22:13 -0600 > > Mark Harig via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text > editors" writes: > > > Emacs Maintainers, > >    In the documentation string in define-minor-mode edebug-mode in edebug.el: > >    1. The option `edebug-on-signal' is listed, but it does not exist in the file. > > Indeed, I find no matches grepping in the repository for > `edebug-on-signal', nor in the git log. > > Perhaps it should just be removed? Yes, please. > > 2. The following options, which are described in (elisp) Edebug Options, are missing:      edebug-sit-for-seconds, edebug-sit-on-break, edebug-behavior-alist,      edebug-new-definition-function, edebug-after-instrumentation-function > > Maybe instead of maintaining a list, we should just point users to `M-x > customize-group RET edebug RET'. Or just remove the list and say > nothing. I think we should remove the list from the doc string, yes. It is unusual for a doc string of a mode to include an exhaustive list of all of its customization options; in general, the feature's group should be enough to discover all of them. And the manual documents the most important ones. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 12 08:54:35 2020 Received: (at 44577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2020 13:54:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44024 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdD3b-0003Yk-2U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:54:35 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdD3W-0003YI-LI for 44577@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:54:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=oH+PcdLN/MQdjA6NNgMsZcEcvawchSQl2CK+lsiBnGc=; b=hs1kWbRTtH5ES68yzyCejjPzso sOdUU4Ii3BYHXUbhEvtCPFxogCjODekuylmThpq6YE4WibKUBCmqkfqe2XBLs1URZlu71vp7KvZKP YMm+Ja7dcEvRgXc9S5Kstujw6xLU2CKZL3be6KUAwz5t76g3VanuP8K4CKzBImulfzUY=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdD3N-0001m7-D8; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:54:24 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#44577: 27.1; Missing options in definition of edebug-mode in edebug.el References: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622@mail.yahoo.com> <83o8k2znzs.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAMFBMVEXQz9/s6fb+/v6X l52Fg4lNTlFydImus9IhKB5KTTFkYWguNCw2PjqVa2g1SV3///+hec6fAAAAAWJLR0QPGLoA2QAA AAd0SU1FB+QLDA01EMtZPBwAAAGgSURBVDjLzdO/S8NAFAfw1Opgp14XVxv/AbEtKEUHRQdX+wTT kklcBKlCyeIqCB21yDUuWlPwoE4Wmr4gOJbU7kadpEut+Ru8WHqNv0CX4uPI8P3wLpfjRZJIRP6u JCLLf4TITyD/KyCECAjGPlR8pA/rMU3LHR5NB0ivvG+TovxR0rKS3jCP3tOwD8qaFkJEM+AHWYCl n/A8ECZhP4zmLaTXvQ7JB9kcoo1178VTu/6O7Dhi08IAiUwk1rICjNLSXB7xLnFGImMAyl4fLhIN fqia4tySSTXlGjN9YPumjukahWMSVJSmKmCZpW3EwuXTxirfiIGAROoBadUxnApkrLXSAGZNPW9W 5itO5V6vgmIPAPEAmPMcen3kF7C17QOLFpnaWWg7igGGbyuktHCluq5bZixj1wbQAFp0veowBpAR kAQoMC/v8pjDouigtNfR7HyCU7Sg1eJQNQDU7rnvuKhaN677Uje8jgHYAAw5tEsegICkwsoXOxzq 8RVD7doCcqy8GYvxxcfIKzFXvxjR3sB9hehPMKwfZ5gQ/T6PvgGBdScOOAL1qQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0 ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMS0xMlQxMzo1MzoxNiswMDowMKvAnJEAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5 ADIwMjAtMTEtMTJUMTM6NTM6MTYrMDA6MDDanSQtAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Elliot Smith's _Elliot Smith (2): Live @ Umbra Penumbra_: "Big Decision" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:54:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83o8k2znzs.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 12 Nov 2020 15:46:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87k0uqadf8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think we should remove the list from the doc string, yes. It is > unusual for a doc string of a mode to include an exhaustive list of > all of its customization options; in general, the feature's [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44577 Cc: 44577@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas , idirectscm@aim.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I think we should remove the list from the doc string, yes. 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Note also that of the 22 options documented in (elisp) Edebug Options,=C2= =A0six (6) of the toggle (on/off)=C2=A0options are included in the Edebug/O= ptionsmenu: - Edebug All Defs- Edebug All Forms- Tracing- Test Coverage- Save Windows- = Save Point Five (5) other toggle (on/off) options are available but are not includedin= the Edebug/Options=C2=A0menu:=C2=A0 1. edebug-eval-macro-args2. edebug-continue-kbd-macro3. edebug-unwrap-resul= ts4. edebug-on-quit5. edebug-sit-on-break This omission from the Options sub-menu might be intentional (minor options= ?)or an oversight=C2=A0(maintenance by different developers over the years)= . --- ------=_Part_4753735_545836839.1605203217994 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> The use case here is the `?' command when edebugging, which makes the
> list somewhat useful.

Note also that of the 22 options documented in (elisp) Edebug Options, 
six (6) of the toggle (on/off) options are included in the Edebug/Options
menu:

- Edebug All Defs
- Edebug All Forms
- Tracing
- Test Coverage
- Save Windows
- Save Point

Five (5) other toggle (on/off) options are available but are not included
in the Edebug/Options menu: 

1. edebug-eval-macro-args
2. edebug-continue-kbd-macro
3. edebug-unwrap-results
4. edebug-on-quit
5. edebug-sit-on-break

This omission from the Options sub-menu might be intentional (minor options?)
or an oversight (maintenance by different developers over the years).

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------=_Part_4753735_545836839.1605203217994-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 12 12:53:39 2020 Received: (at 44577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2020 17:53:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45520 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGmx-0001DT-3k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:53:39 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35806) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGmr-0001D6-U3 for 44577@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:53:37 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57178) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGmm-00078C-6r; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:53:28 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3790 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdGml-0004Va-NI; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:53:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:53:24 +0200 Message-Id: <83wnyqxy0b.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <87k0uqadf8.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:54:19 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#44577: 27.1; Missing options in definition of edebug-mode in edebug.el References: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622@mail.yahoo.com> <83o8k2znzs.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0uqadf8.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44577 Cc: 44577@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, idirectscm@aim.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Stefan Kangas , 44577@debbugs.gnu.org, > idirectscm@aim.com > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 14:54:19 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I think we should remove the list from the doc string, yes. It is > > unusual for a doc string of a mode to include an exhaustive list of > > all of its customization options; in general, the feature's group > > should be enough to discover all of them. And the manual documents > > the most important ones. > > The use case here is the `?' command when edebugging, which makes the > list somewhat useful. Cannot the '?' command map over the customization group instead? It's a maintenance burden to keep that list exhaustive and up-to-date, just so '?' could show all of the options. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 14 10:34:05 2020 Received: (at 44577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2020 15:34:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51629 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdxYz-0003sc-Bm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:34:05 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdxYy-0003s5-Hg for 44577@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 10:34:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7rARIPJA8PyHMCh7CoJggFY2N/+t/KNpwqrTddNcGU8=; b=mZaNxGXo3IUVxk2h7KSAjeYXV6 ftVxGIAezyvdmugpL2zGnD2CWrnHHbPCCBOLdM3OXNosIY4D1KhcBDXmsm4cm99x9XtqduqBmyK3h AsuANl+HPApuKLPf6DWPJRT7IvlDO/ziZzFfZe2nYePJ/MxBDtDtpkd8KSrJZbjNImCU=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdxYp-0000DB-Gl; Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:33:58 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#44577: 27.1; Missing options in definition of edebug-mode in edebug.el References: <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1575202005.4252872.1605107085622@mail.yahoo.com> <83o8k2znzs.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0uqadf8.fsf@gnus.org> <83wnyqxy0b.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEUPCQ0tFyFeMD+R R0e4nJb///8GzD2mAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+QLDg8RMd9V0QEAAAGzSURBVDjLrVNR duMwCBRJDyBID2ChPUAjfIC21v3PtAOSHXu3n+UlzzGjgRlEUppBKXFOKe/v+MWRoUyMJ/MOSEEK ecARB4VpPNIEjlLEmaPKyMuLwUw8g8qFM/GCbJnVaMgk1GMtyq9wmeiLHoooO1iGNm8hDmgD6Hk4 gEFk8bGmZlq1HGYAeBFrzarWNnTlkCMVx3G4ebFymM8s6+Y5dqq+hsJcV2eImxA5zYurGRAHdKia 3lnRo2kUilr+lQIX4owy83hCNsKHKFKLW6yuwfnaWMI3OVm9V0RQx/0ILKKErb1v5rprw117mzhk 1nu3J95rteklEJzvqxNczrxeCUFrtzBHtdTBwJHFL1+nN/HmA9jiqJQ88rMUu3Yfhs+QsrcYwMOg DhdcG4fJA7i1UZtEd5M21veI20y3aG7uMrZ0XgLy8SIDeMydhaOxPZDyhbmk26lkAE3zd6L1nzSA J6PK/XnJxWCWnO6Z2hm4fQQKYEn3M/C2jEnJ4/Pa+s+Qleh9S3Rm9GU/saRLPCf97Sv9GNT/m1UM UfqLsP9PsYnYjO8TW/dI2/XvGxuC8Vr6vfgLgDNKnsCRCuQAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIw MjAtMTEtMTRUMTU6MTc6NDkrMDA6MDBfLofdAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTExLTE0 VDE1OjE3OjQ5KzAwOjAwLnM/YQAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Genesis's _And Then There Were Three_: "Say It's Alright Joe" Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:33:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83wnyqxy0b.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 12 Nov 2020 19:53:24 +0200") Message-ID: <871rgw0x7h.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Cannot the '?' command map over the customization group instead? It's > a maintenance burden to keep that list exhaustive and up-to-date, just > so '?' could show all of the options. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44577 Cc: 44577@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, idirectscm@aim.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Cannot the '?' command map over the customization group instead? It's > a maintenance burden to keep that list exhaustive and up-to-date, just > so '?' could show all of the options. Sure, writing a new command for `?' sounds like a good idea. In slightly related news, I was just looking at the dired-mode doc string, which has a similar list of user options, but the added confusing text. Does anybody know what this refers to? I mean, the `C-h v' is probably just left-over cruft from before `this-stuff' are links, but... "rename this buffer"? Oh, perhaps that's from before the *Help* buffer had prev/next navigation commands? ---- Customization variables (rename this buffer and type C-h v on each line for more info): =E2=80=98dired-listing-switches=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-trivial-filenames=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-marker-char=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-del-marker=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-keep-marker-rename=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-keep-marker-copy=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-keep-marker-hardlink=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-keep-marker-symlink=E2=80=99 Hooks (use C-h v to see their documentation): =E2=80=98dired-before-readin-hook=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-after-readin-hook=E2=80=99 =E2=80=98dired-mode-hook=E2=80=99 --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:17:12 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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