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Content preview: Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about 8 hours. i think that is bug on time calculating in Gnus [...] Content analysis details: (2.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR SPF: test of HELO record failed (temperror) 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD 2.0 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD_FP From abused NTLD X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about 8 hours. i think that is bug on time calculating in Gnus. how think about? 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X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:12:01 +0900 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?B?Iu2ZqQ==?= =?utf-8?B?67OR7Z2sIidz?= message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:55:45 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. 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X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 16:13:14 +0900 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?B?Iu2ZqQ==?= =?utf-8?B?67OR7Z2sIidz?= message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:55:45 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: X-Debbugs-CC: asjo@koldfront.dk After hard try, i found related chagelog in Emacs 27.1 branch. #+BEGIN_SRC text 2019-07-20 Adam Sjøgren Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.216.49 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.216.49 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: X-Debbugs-CC: asjo@koldfront.dk After hard try, i found related chagelog in Emacs 27.1 branch. #+BEGIN_SRC text 2019-07-20 Adam Sjøgren Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.216.49 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.216.49 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager X-Debbugs-CC: asjo@koldfront.dk After hard try, i found related chagelog in Emacs 27.1 branch. #+BEGIN_SRC text 2019-07-20 Adam Sj=C3=B8gren Enable showing local time and lapsed time in Gnus * lisp/gnus/gnus-art.el (article-make-date-combine-with-lapsed) fac= tor code out into new function, used for providing both combined-lapsed and combined-local-lapsed. #+END_SRC But still i don't know what problem is in detail... 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 04:56:16 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 09:56:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40271 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcmrP-0000Bi-JS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 04:56:15 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35564) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcmrO-0000BS-AS for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 04:56:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=dfRm9z3MG+CE/UBKIurGqIkv+6yCjKR4XOEVw26SlOU=; b=CGAVhb8MtaKVCe4EY14kOPQ+DM 3b3L0ntyhK/NyCushVCvI8cnMlAu7oZSnvFuAIpBjobUqBxD5IaiJiZ8+4vFj/T4utfsjQvTje9bt iBP7rzpI//9SAViDR/802it6F1wU6xGvQZtOVzalBL0y0uhm4EZ3L25pkFTN9SpfPwcA=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcmrF-0008Uk-FR; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:56:08 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: X-Now-Playing: =?utf-8?B?UsOzaXPDrW4=?= Murphy's _Play Thing_: "Play Thing" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:56:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?B?Iu2ZqQ==?= =?utf-8?B?67OR7Z2sIidz?= message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:55:45 +0900") Message-ID: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 황병희 writes: > Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder > and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about > 8 hours. i think that is bug on time calculating i [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. 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Content preview: 황병희 writes: > Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder > and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about > 8 hours. i think that is bug on time calculating i [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [95.216.78.240 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC writes: > Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder > and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about > 8 hours. i think that is bug on time calculating in Gnus. how think > about? I'm not quite sure what you're asking here. The screenshots showed that you were posting first using the +0900 time zone, and then you were posting using the CET time zone, and the difference between these time zones are, as you point out, eight hours. 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X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:35:09 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87h7pw9q2r.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> (unknown@unknown.invalid's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:54:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Unknown writes: > What brings you to the conclusion that this is a bug in Gnus? lapsed time. that two screenshot is very different. 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X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 19:39:08 +0900 In-Reply-To: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:56:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > 황병희 writes: > >> Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder >> and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about >> 8 h [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.214.171 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.214.171 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > 황병희 writes: > >> Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder >> and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about >> 8 h [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.214.171 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.214.171 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC writes: > >> Hellow, i sent mail to usenet. then i checked the mails. at sent folder >> and usenet server. i did attach the two screenshot. there is lack about >> 8 hours. i think that is bug on time calculating in Gnus. how think >> about? > > I'm not quite sure what you're asking here. The screenshots showed that > you were posting first using the +0900 time zone, and then you were > posting using the CET time zone, and the difference between these time > zones are, as you point out, eight hours. I think "lapsed time" should be same regardless of timezone. 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If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: 황병희 writes: > I think "lapsed time" should be same regardless of timezone. Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead of posting screenshots and asking us to guess what you think the problem is? 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Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead of posting screenshots and asking us to guess what you think the problem is? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 06:43:01 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 11:43:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40429 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoWi-0007RT-Sn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:43:01 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:39714) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoWh-0007RM-43 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:42:59 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53744) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoWg-0007yC-T1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:42:58 -0500 Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:50200 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoWf-0006BH-4b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:42:58 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoWb-0004p9-4f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:42:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: "Peder O. Klingenberg" Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:42:49 +0100 Organization: Persons in a Position to Know, inc. Message-ID: <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:E57XkUJ4UCVBEqPEm4K910MF21I= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/11 05:55:22 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On on., 2020-11-11 kl. 12.14 +0100 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the > problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead of posting > screenshots and asking us to guess what you think the problem is? Seems obvious to me. Two screenshots, taken 30-ish seconds apart. In the first, an archive copy of a message, with a Date header like so: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:18:55 +0900 (22 minutes, 6 seconds ago) Second, the NNTP edition of the same message, with a date header like this: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET (8 hours, 22 minutes, 37 seconds ago) The second timestamp is transposed to CET, but describes the same point in time as the first. The thing between the parenthesis, calculated by gnus, should therefore obviously be the same, modulo the seconds between the screenshots. It's not. The difference is the same as the difference between time zones +0900 and CET, so it's not unlikely that somewhere Gnus drops the TZ information. ...Peder... -- Sløv uten dop From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 06:42:04 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 11:42:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoVo-0007QE-Hs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:42:04 -0500 Received: from mail-pf1-f177.google.com ([209.85.210.177]:45556) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoVm-0007Pi-AX for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:42:03 -0500 Received: by mail-pf1-f177.google.com with SMTP id e7so1429817pfn.12 for <44566@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:42:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=doraji.xyz; s=yw; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:message-id:references:face:date :in-reply-to:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jba+5thxRDcXUJT7jJiHJ1+kHdpbap1NNPV05SwKylk=; b=LZVsyGf9m0E2vWVcoZdSgS0NXICacKC5Bk+3hRI7V+CjOveafr82ab8NNH72y0GPdw UjQGmofeh+eZ6vMgr3O+XhUooJgFfmIMfaHTblgM/AoKklu0mqL4BOWovt6cFljAY+sH tyFxsHZk7Gl/Fi8KDQEqPT9c8qVCYWxFLTty4a/f2E7w5maicFo2pWQQJoFfbX5YVxmx wFWJEbfQ9qQjLZ3pC+CSk8AErOVnXzeUor4Bwcyz79pCKQY6/zqvusxh7KDPm+2lsrea waxjT4YMZaJ2/6ik7c2PncWE34Q0Ylrp8m0lcbgRxhYf0lQzEEUbIM2PR+gtxllAYp2l KOiQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:message-id :references:face:date:in-reply-to:user-agent:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jba+5thxRDcXUJT7jJiHJ1+kHdpbap1NNPV05SwKylk=; b=LlZIgrkvST23Sl3E01/58p0J81hj/MTrWA6YXgR9TuD5+xGmheuUs5c7gTxGlRbWZR BKKlmQbQs9gRrPqvY6E01txf15RCXoibzzKeapwTT5OEE0evbDK7W2cACtg9bX3vGXJ8 ThBtWaAmBsxJ/w0s1Jl6kxN8lpqSL8FVp9EOLyjrZyxLXpLV34LcODVGFnubDIBtiA9m 0d9kwRxbBmJD+nH5HSrFax+orY8z6lzfx7/oOwSZbAJpc555ZoJ6Ya1vKQvRnX0zuKi/ lAiNQRo504txuoNHiQQjQmarSYfQrxecacIAD3qDpWK3snX2rk0WynLaUyxZcDGkez11 eNEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530/Wi+QheGZT3+uF3Olf7P08byj5YVvpNd5eJCg83VATszC6I2p XVS3FXINPqfcA61TMRneJN9qog== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxPnEh7nH1u/7s9TCCL2PJ+OK48pOtUjn43S56iAn4upILEkCrkMNnV+nIlBQzN+zgT0xef7Q== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8518:0:b029:18b:cc9c:efab with SMTP id v24-20020aa785180000b029018bcc9cefabmr19283876pfn.39.1605094916463; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from delta.birch.chromebook ([223.39.149.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r22sm2274084pjo.0.2020.11.11.03.41.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by delta.birch.chromebook (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:41:46 +0900 From: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus Organization: =?utf-8?B?6YeR6Zm1ICjsl7Dsm5DsnZgg66eI7J2MKQ==?= Message-ID: References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> Face: 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 X-Thanks-Workers: =?utf-8?B?7J2066eI65GQLCDsnbTsiJzsi6AsIOyghOuqheyImSwg?= =?utf-8?B?7KeE7ZGc7Jyo7IKsLCDqtIDsmrTsnqUsIOyXrOuPmeu5iCwg6rCV7YOc6rO1?= X-Thanks-Today: =?utf-8?B?J+yDgeygnOq7mOyEnOuKlCDtla3sg4Eg67Cl7JWMIO2VmA==?= =?utf-8?B?64KY652864+EIOuVheyXkCDrlqjslrTsp4DrqbQg6re46rKD7J2EIOyjvA==?= =?utf-8?B?7Jqw7IWo7Jy866mwIOOAjOyepeywqCDrsKXsnYQg7LC+64qUIOyGjOumrA==?= =?utf-8?B?6rCAIOq1rOyynOyXkCDsgqzrrLTsuaAg65WM6rCAIOyYpOumrOuLiCDslrQ=?= =?utf-8?B?7LCMIOqyve2ZgO2VmOqyjCDsl6zquLDrpqzsmpQuIO2VnOuCsSDqs6Hsi50=?= =?utf-8?B?7J20652864+EIO2VmOuKmOydtCDslYTrgpjri4jrnbzjgI3tlZjshajrj4Q=?= =?utf-8?B?64ukLic=?= X-Thanks-Thanks-Thanks: =?utf-8?B?7LKc7ZWY7LC97IOd7J2EIOuLpCDsgrTrpqzsi5w=?= =?utf-8?B?66Ck64qUIOuniOydjC4uLl5eXg==?= X-Thanks-Right-Mindset: 'toothless' & 'hiccup' X-Thanks-MID-Tool: https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/__yw__/-/blob/master/tmid.py X-Thanks-Absolete-Coding-System: UTF-8 X-Operating-System: =?utf-8?B?4omqZGluZ+KJqw==?= -- The Gnus X-Gnus-Motto: In a cloud bones of steel. X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:41:46 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:14:43 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: [Cc'ed Adam] Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > 황병희 writes: > >> I think "lapsed time" should be same regardless of timezone. > > Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the > problem is (by gi [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.210.177 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.210.177 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org, asjo@koldfront.dk X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: [Cc'ed Adam] Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > 황병희 writes: > >> I think "lapsed time" should be same regardless of timezone. > > Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the > problem is (by gi [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.210.177 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.210.177 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager [Cc'ed Adam] Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC writes: > >> I think "lapsed time" should be same regardless of timezone. > > Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the > problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead of posting > screenshots and asking us to guess what you think the problem is? That was my fault without background my thought. Sorry about that, Lars. And i do re-submit exact and detail screenshot: =3D=3D=3D> https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/487f47cdc9fe999eb5a7683a3eb3bbffc= 0156203 Both have same Message-ID. But both "lapsed time" are very different. I think "lapsed time" should be same(at least similar) in logical. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 황병희 writes: > That was my fault without background my thought. Sorry about that, Lars. > > And i do re-submit exact and detail screenshot: > ===> > https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/487f47cdc9fe999eb5a768 [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 2.0 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. 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Sorry about that, Lars. > > And i do re-submit exact and detail screenshot: > ===> > https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/487f47cdc9fe999eb5a768 [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [95.216.78.240 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org, asjo@koldfront.dk X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) =ED=99=A9=EB=B3=91=ED=9D=AC writes: > That was my fault without background my thought. Sorry about that, Lars. > > And i do re-submit exact and detail screenshot: > =3D=3D=3D> > https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/487f47cdc9fe999eb5a7683a3eb3bbf= fc0156203 > > Both have same Message-ID. But both "lapsed time" are very different. I > think "lapsed time" should be same(at least similar) in logical. I still don't understand. Is that the screenshot of the same message from two different Gnus sessions? If so, what's the first Gnus version, and what's the second? --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 06:51:15 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 11:51:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40438 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoeg-0007eN-Vg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:51:15 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:43588) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoed-0007eC-2c for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:51:13 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CWNNY2t6qz1rwb8; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:51:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CWNNY0QQHz1qv5t; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:51:09 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1ahViioTf74U; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:51:08 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: wBmWusPNC1FLq7C1UOFmucwa8jE7z5c0wVLUPFNUG1oF2NI1+x1iWhrw5yUGV+kZ Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-161-149.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.161.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:51:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DA21C2C3601; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:51:07 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: "Peder O. Klingenberg" Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> X-Yow: Why am I in this ROOM in DOWNTOWN PHILADELPHIA? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:51:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> (Peder O. Klingenberg's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:42:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87r1p0jems.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Nov 11 2020, Peder O. Klingenberg wrote: > Second, the NNTP edition of the same message, with a date header like > this: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET (8 hours, 22 minutes, 37 seconds ago) > > The second timestamp is transposed to CET, but describes the same point > in time as the first. No, it describes the date 2020-11-11 03:18:55 +0000. It lacks a time zone, thus UTC0 is assumed. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 06:58:09 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 11:58:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40442 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcolM-0007nr-OC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:58:08 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:36816) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcolK-0007nN-BS for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:58:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hTjAY+Leqw/ORAqvlvW6uDPPsbGcAtC+ZXDhyo/ZhYE=; b=Qb5YqoPsyq515YtqZ7dZKWl70D Tn7wO6nE2JtzZ8eOmL3zHJzq8PQnqelv6MC1YWcEChP7v+Cwe77y0zGWEyuIAF1wvgxONtsBt8TQ6 5jwyKavL9L3vNoN904WAJ8njscmzPSWCYLEQMk/L+oHFbXMB6onVaEwUbWUb7aSJB3Y4=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcol9-0001U8-O2; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:58:00 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Peder O. Klingenberg" Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJ1BMVEUIBgsjGBYwKy9I NzFZQy5iTjdjWEweGCAiGyNSTVBiXmBBPEH////RPbNfAAAAAWJLR0QMgbNRYwAAAAd0SU1FB+QL CwsNHTstuFEAAAC6SURBVDjL5VKxEcIwDHSn2kwASpOjomADdmADep2bd5lLYzNC2ABKJsR2GUsN cDSo/Lf+X/k418Z7vzmeL6edd/82RPI1KSGTMnAYzFuhYCczKMpCSoAgc3RxWsPirvf947Ysh845 MD955KnXQmLWzQfmUcMlGES7ULuEAGTpsLaR03qlvkYqdC8FREA0C6lb0uO1KK1CqjZai81d3QDU lopzkVG8q4gWyf7bfjXlePUjujBHHrcfKL8AaZUtuvawg7kAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIw MjAtMTEtMTFUMTE6MTM6MjkrMDA6MDAqSpmgAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTExLTEx VDExOjEzOjI5KzAwOjAwWxchHAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: KiTsuNe and Brian the Fox's _The Future Eve_: "(untitled)" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:57:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> (Peder O. Klingenberg's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:42:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87wnysaywt.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Peder O. Klingenberg" writes: > On on., 2020-11-11 kl. 12.14 +0100 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the >> problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Peder O. Klingenberg" writes: > On on., 2020-11-11 kl. 12.14 +0100 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the >> problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead of posting >> screenshots and asking us to guess what you think the problem is? > > Seems obvious to me. Two screenshots, taken 30-ish seconds apart. In > the first, an archive copy of a message, with a Date header like so: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:18:55 +0900 (22 minutes, 6 seconds ago) > > Second, the NNTP edition of the same message, with a date header like > this: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET (8 hours, 22 minutes, 37 seconds ago) > > The second timestamp is transposed to CET, but describes the same point > in time as the first. The thing between the parenthesis, calculated by > gnus, should therefore obviously be the same, modulo the seconds between > the screenshots. It's not. The difference is the same as the > difference between time zones +0900 and CET, so it's not unlikely that > somewhere Gnus drops the TZ information. Thanks for the explanation. `article-make-date-line' basically calls date-to-time on the header and then formats the "lapsed" bit: (date-to-time "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET") => (24491 18959) (date-to-time "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:18:55 +0900") => (24491 18959) which is in the local time zone. It then calls (article-lapsed-string '(24491 18959) 3) => "9 hours, 36 minutes, 55 seconds ago" Byung-Hee, do you get something differing results if you eval (with `C-x C-e', for instance) the forms above? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 06:59:32 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 11:59:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40446 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcomi-0007pv-4e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:59:32 -0500 Received: from mail-pl1-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175]:40946) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcomg-0007pi-GN for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 06:59:31 -0500 Received: by mail-pl1-f175.google.com with SMTP id j5so852910plk.7 for <44566@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:59:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from delta.birch.chromebook ([223.39.149.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t36sm2053125pfg.55.2020.11.11.03.59.21 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by delta.birch.chromebook (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:59:15 +0900 From: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus Organization: =?utf-8?B?6YeR6Zm1ICjsl7Dsm5DsnZgg66eI7J2MKQ==?= Message-ID: References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> Face: 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 X-Thanks-Workers: =?utf-8?B?7J2066eI65GQLCDsnbTsiJzsi6AsIOyghOuqheyImSwg?= =?utf-8?B?7KeE7ZGc7Jyo7IKsLCDqtIDsmrTsnqUsIOyXrOuPmeu5iCwg6rCV7YOc6rO1?= X-Thanks-Today: =?utf-8?B?J+yDgeygnOq7mOyEnCDrp5DslIDtlZjsi5zquLDrpbwg44CM?= =?utf-8?B?67aA6reA7ZWcIOyekOuKlCDruYjsspzsnYQg7KaQ6riw7KeAIOyViuycvA==?= =?utf-8?B?66mwIOqwle2VnCDsnpDripQg7JW97ZWcIOqyg+ydhCDsppDquLDsp4Ag7JWK?= =?utf-8?B?7Jy866mwIOyngO2YnOuhnOyatCDsnpDripQg7Ja066as7ISd7J2M7J2EIA==?= =?utf-8?B?7KaQ6riw7KeAIOyViuycvOuLiCDqt7jrn6zrr4DroZwg67mI7LKc7ZWY6rOg?= =?utf-8?B?IOuzkeuTpOqzoCDslrTrpqzshJ3snYAg7J6Q6rCAIOqzpyDrgpjsnZgg7IKs?= =?utf-8?B?656M7J2064uI652844CN7ZWY7IWo64+E64ukLic=?= X-Thanks-Thanks-Thanks: =?utf-8?B?7LKc7ZWY7LC97IOd7J2EIOuLpCDsgrTrpqzsi5w=?= =?utf-8?B?66Ck64qUIOuniOydjC4uLl5eXg==?= X-Thanks-Right-Mindset: 'toothless' & 'hiccup' X-Thanks-MID-Tool: https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/__yw__/-/blob/master/tmid.py X-Thanks-Absolete-Coding-System: UTF-8 X-Operating-System: =?utf-8?B?4omqZGluZ+KJqw==?= -- The Gnus X-Gnus-Motto: In a cloud bones of steel. X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:59:15 +0900 In-Reply-To: <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:45:04 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > 황병희 writes: > >> That was my fault without background my thought. Sorry about that, Lars. >> >> And i do re-submit exact and detail screenshot: >> ===> >> https://gitlab. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > 황병희 writes: > >> That was my fault without background my thought. Sorry about that, Lars. >> >> And i do re-submit exact and detail screenshot: >> ===> >> https://gitlab. 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Sorry about that, Lars. >> >> And i do re-submit exact and detail screenshot: >> =3D=3D=3D> >> https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/Gnus/-/commit/487f47cdc9fe999eb5a7683a3eb3bb= ffc0156203 >> >> Both have same Message-ID. But both "lapsed time" are very different. I >> think "lapsed time" should be same(at least similar) in logical. > > I still don't understand. Is that the screenshot of the same message > from two different Gnus sessions? If so, what's the first Gnus version, > and what's the second? The screenshot's two Gnus are same version. I did launch two Emacs for take screenshot.=20 Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee --=20 ^=EA=B3=A0=EB=A7=99=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4 _=E5=92=8C=E5=90=88=E5=9C=98= =E7=B5=90_ =EA=B0=90=EC=82=AC=ED=95=A9=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4_^))// From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 07:04:03 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 12:04:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40467 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcor5-0007ys-GT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 07:04:03 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:36854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcor2-0007xn-ER for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 07:04:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4IRAjTPOXOJ9Nz/tUBgzicJtAXYg3X0ri/iZ6jU6jEU=; b=sPsOoLxCITXPvBm9/Itc6rm3ZW 9B0EmeRbQyd+uo40E0D1Hn27cclxisZ5yTBIDVW8h73cCK40WTl7kbBKx0VIOOP0Z2SG3eIXkQPcA s4ZH7Il/yv0IkW3LA3gc45lkMwJbga8JL1wwWPmILrM9U3gAFnAM2CyCrsTgHTwl4Ri0=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoqt-0001YL-50; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:03:53 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJ1BMVEUIBgsjGBYwKy9I NzFZQy5iTjdjWEweGCAiGyNSTVBiXmBBPEH////RPbNfAAAAAWJLR0QMgbNRYwAAAAd0SU1FB+QL CwsNHTstuFEAAAC6SURBVDjL5VKxEcIwDHSn2kwASpOjomADdmADep2bd5lLYzNC2ABKJsR2GUsN cDSo/Lf+X/k418Z7vzmeL6edd/82RPI1KSGTMnAYzFuhYCczKMpCSoAgc3RxWsPirvf947Ysh845 MD955KnXQmLWzQfmUcMlGES7ULuEAGTpsLaR03qlvkYqdC8FREA0C6lb0uO1KK1CqjZai81d3QDU lopzkVG8q4gWyf7bfjXlePUjujBHHrcfKL8AaZUtuvawg7kAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIw MjAtMTEtMTFUMTE6MTM6MjkrMDA6MDAqSpmgAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTExLTEx VDExOjEzOjI5KzAwOjAwWxchHAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: KiTsuNe and Brian the Fox's _The Future Eve_: "(untitled)" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:03:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?B?Iu2ZqQ==?= =?utf-8?B?67OR7Z2sIidz?= message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 20:59:15 +0900") Message-ID: <87sg9gaymy.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: (parse-time-string "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET") => (55 18 3 11 11 2020 3 -1 nil) (parse-time-string "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:18:55 +0900") => (55 18 11 11 11 2020 3 -1 32400) Hm! So `parse-time-string' doesn't understand symbolic (and ambiguous) time zones? Should it? Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org, asjo@koldfront.dk X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) (parse-time-string "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET") => (55 18 3 11 11 2020 3 -1 nil) (parse-time-string "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:18:55 +0900") => (55 18 11 11 11 2020 3 -1 32400) Hm! So `parse-time-string' doesn't understand symbolic (and ambiguous) time zones? Should it? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 07:12:19 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 12:12:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40481 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoz5-0008Ap-G7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 07:12:19 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoz3-0008Ac-QU for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 07:12:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=H8T5Iw0grGH7dT6eZBtSQHUWaGpisX5A61+uDhrlFHs=; b=YKiCWsSt9ai448YCh22kb1auah d57w9XW8yKW/Dnj6PgNQ0B3OsnC4VnJlyakWzcZ9xppHz+ECoRF9eDzIx34U2dqQKr0yju3Bt9zbj cTC/SNQSU4yAN5nclAlo8s6zpOQDX70nvY64//hr3HBbIvCK7z6AMkkiFmuwckgdkeA4=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcoyu-0001c7-QQ; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:12:11 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg9gaymy.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJ1BMVEUIBgsjGBYwKy9I NzFZQy5iTjdjWEweGCAiGyNSTVBiXmBBPEH////RPbNfAAAAAWJLR0QMgbNRYwAAAAd0SU1FB+QL CwsNHTstuFEAAAC6SURBVDjL5VKxEcIwDHSn2kwASpOjomADdmADep2bd5lLYzNC2ABKJsR2GUsN cDSo/Lf+X/k418Z7vzmeL6edd/82RPI1KSGTMnAYzFuhYCczKMpCSoAgc3RxWsPirvf947Ysh845 MD955KnXQmLWzQfmUcMlGES7ULuEAGTpsLaR03qlvkYqdC8FREA0C6lb0uO1KK1CqjZai81d3QDU lopzkVG8q4gWyf7bfjXlePUjujBHHrcfKL8AaZUtuvawg7kAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIw MjAtMTEtMTFUMTE6MTM6MjkrMDA6MDAqSpmgAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTExLTEx VDExOjEzOjI5KzAwOjAwWxchHAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: KiTsuNe and Brian the Fox's _The Future Eve_: "(untitled)" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:12:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87sg9gaymy.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:03:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8k4ay94.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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It has coverage for this somewhat eccentric range of (legacy) time zone names: (defvar parse-time-zoneinfo `(("z" 0) ("ut" 0) ("gmt" 0) ("pst" ,(* -8 3600)) ("pdt" ,(* -7 3600) t) ("mst" ,(* -7 3600)) ("mdt" ,(* -6 3600) t) ("cst" ,(* -6 3600)) ("cdt" ,(* -5 3600) t) ("est" ,(* [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org, asjo@koldfront.dk X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Heh. 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X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:19:02 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87o8k4ay94.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:12:07 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Heh. 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It has coverage for this somewhat eccentric range of (legacy) time > zone names: > > (defvar parse-time-zoneinfo `(("z" 0) ("ut" 0) ("gmt" 0) > ("pst" ,(* -8 3600)) ("pdt" ,(* -7 3600) t) > ("m [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.216.50 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.216.50 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Heh. 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X-Gnus-Desktop: gnome/x11 ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 21:22:34 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> (Peder O. Klingenberg's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:42:49 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dear Peder, "Peder O. Klingenberg" writes: > On on., 2020-11-11 kl. 12.14 +0100 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the >> problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.215.180 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.215.180 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 2.5 (++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Klingenberg" writes: > On on., 2020-11-11 kl. 12.14 +0100 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the >> problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 RBL: Good reputation (+3) [209.85.215.180 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.215.180 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Dear Peder, "Peder O. Klingenberg" writes: > On on., 2020-11-11 kl. 12.14 +0100 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > >> Perhaps it'd be better if you described precisely what you think the >> problem is (by giving us example Date headers) instead of posting >> screenshots and asking us to guess what you think the problem is? > > Seems obvious to me. Two screenshots, taken 30-ish seconds apart. In > the first, an archive copy of a message, with a Date header like so: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:18:55 +0900 (22 minutes, 6 seconds ago) > > Second, the NNTP edition of the same message, with a date header like > this: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET (8 hours, 22 minutes, 37 seconds ago) > > The second timestamp is transposed to CET, but describes the same point > in time as the first. The thing between the parenthesis, calculated by > gnus, should therefore obviously be the same, modulo the seconds between > the screenshots. It's not. The difference is the same as the > difference between time zones +0900 and CET, so it's not unlikely that > somewhere Gnus drops the TZ information. > > > ...Peder... Thank you for good explain!!! Sincerely, Byung-Hee --=20 ^=EA=B3=A0=EB=A7=99=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4 _=E5=92=8C=E5=90=88=E5=9C=98= =E7=B5=90_ =EA=B0=90=EC=82=AC=ED=95=A9=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4_^))// From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 07:47:20 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 12:47:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40501 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcpWs-0002ix-Pn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 07:47:20 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:52136) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcpWp-0002ik-0z for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 07:47:13 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CWPd85QZ7z1qs10; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:47:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CWPd83V05z1rHWj; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:47:08 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tlDlMogC_X_8; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:47:07 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: jcQF0FDK+JRwRaIRcAp3t5keD5bZO6vty9QXdqMhFbr8VyOMdJGeSQozxJpPJBrM Received: from igel.home (ppp-46-244-161-149.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.161.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:47:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4DD992C3601; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:47:07 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg9gaymy.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8k4ay94.fsf@gnus.org> X-Yow: My polyvinyl cowboy wallet was made in Hong Kong by Montgomery Clift! Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:47:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87o8k4ay94.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:12:07 +0100") Message-ID: <87lff8jc1g.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: asjo@koldfront.dk, =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= , 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Nov 11 2020, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Heh. It has coverage for this somewhat eccentric range of (legacy) time > zone names: > > (defvar parse-time-zoneinfo `(("z" 0) ("ut" 0) ("gmt" 0) > ("pst" ,(* -8 3600)) ("pdt" ,(* -7 3600) t) > ("mst" ,(* -7 3600)) ("mdt" ,(* -6 3600) t) > ("cst" ,(* -6 3600)) ("cdt" ,(* -5 3600) t) > ("est" ,(* -5 3600)) ("edt" ,(* -4 3600) t)) > "(zoneinfo seconds-off daylight-savings-time-p)") See obs-zone in RFC2822. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." 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I am questioning that Gnus is doing something wrong here, because the nntp-server in question is one I have implemented, and I think it's more likely that my nntp-server doesn't handle timezones/follow the spec correctly than Gnus being at fault. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 08:26:15 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 13:26:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40571 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcq8d-0005qk-C1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:26:15 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcq8Y-0005qX-0N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:26:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47120) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcq8X-000447-N8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:26:09 -0500 Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214]:38278 helo=ciao.gmane.io) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcq8V-0006jC-Vy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:26:09 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kcq8R-0000Ej-Al for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:26:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: "Peder O. Klingenberg" Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:25:57 +0100 Organization: Persons in a Position to Know, inc. Message-ID: <87pn4kqb2y.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> <87r1p0jems.fsf@igel.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:/8h0St99DCGXYtpTmEt7Tg4xzeQ= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/11 05:55:22 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On on., 2020-11-11 kl. 12.51 +0100 +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote: > On Nov 11 2020, Peder O. Klingenberg wrote: > >> Second, the NNTP edition of the same message, with a date header like >> this: >> >> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET (8 hours, 22 minutes, 37 seconds ago) >> >> The second timestamp is transposed to CET, but describes the same point >> in time as the first. > > No, it describes the date 2020-11-11 03:18:55 +0000. It lacks a time > zone, thus UTC0 is assumed. "Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept." The date string comes from an NNTP server. The format is close to, but not necessarily identical to, that described by the email RFC you pointed to in another message. I seem to remember, but can't be bothered to look up, that NNTP was never really standardized to the same degree as email, and thus Postels Law surely applies. To my human eyes, it's obvious that CET == +0100. (and CEST == +0200) I'm in favor of teaching gnus the same interpretation, rather than insisting on fixing random NNTP servers. I'm guessing most NNTP servers don't see much new development these days. Besides, there's still a bug if we accept that the date should be read as UTC0, as you say. +0000 vs +0100 should account for just one hour difference in the article-lapsed-time, not eight. (03:18:55 +0000 is 12:18:55 +0900, and the article-lapsed-time should have been something like "37 minutes, 23 seconds in the future", if I've counted in the right direction.) ...Peder... -- Sløv uten dop From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 08:28:53 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 13:28:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40576 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcqBA-0005ux-QW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:28:53 -0500 Received: from virgil.koldfront.dk ([212.237.178.116]:45708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcqB9-0005uo-BX for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:28:52 -0500 Received: from tullinup.koldfront.dk (tullinup.koldfront.dk [192.168.1.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by virgil.koldfront.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AFFF316C28CEF for <44566@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:28:49 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 virgil.koldfront.dk AFFF316C28CEF DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=koldfront.dk; s=mail; t=1605101329; bh=8IcsHAl21GYdVWlSN5V4ZV8L16fl+zKAlEl8QRUMMak=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=RGrWmfoUBzmSSsi7QJIET9IYo23BQPFKw6MLL5fiFXaHvUwv6mdJWd52pMC9Sh/Cg 929NgnNa/DED+27b9hbKdF69usAUetmmX/KoGZMxeTkelxfE2KdvAPNngHW2C/qbva xpsDTLcBPMWmyjfdzQ5QTxoEkCVxf1eXPXyvurC1anFLALP3P8V0WQgzN9wS7hvkiM jgcfyfmFUk4X+415JWv4D+c+kH/A93eh2ommfJV8x39bKNFeCxVUud8Jtl7ufZ7Go/ 6Gt4JYSQfGLfc4dMZ/yvMOW2thwVs8pW5fN+B8IWgIPyBIs7mgc2VAtjg0VDpS7Z2K mZ5wW6cFxBfsw== Received: by tullinup.koldfront.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9737A20199FB8; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:28:49 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Adam_Sj=C3=B8gren?= To: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7pw82jd.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc X-Hashcash: 1:25:201111:44566@debbugs.gnu.org::j88PHH12kbcq2vil:0000000000000000000000000000000000000004ITCd X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97, Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8gren=22's?= message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:07:50 +0100") Message-ID: <87blg481ke.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Adam writes: > the nntp-server in question is one I have implemented, and I think > it's more likely that my nntp-server doesn't handle timezones/follow > the spec correctly than Gnus being at fault. Specifically my code is using Data.Time.Format=C2=B9s defaultTimeLocale and rfc822DateFormat, which doesn't seem to use the restricted list of timezones defined in rfc(2)822: $ ghci GHCi, version 8.8.4: https://www.haskell.org/ghc/ :? for help Prelude> import Data.Time.LocalTime Prelude Data.Time.LocalTime> import Data.Time.Format Prelude Data.Time.LocalTime Data.Time.Format> now <- getZonedTime Prelude Data.Time.LocalTime Data.Time.Format> formatTime defaultTimeLocal= e rfc822DateFormat now "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:23:39 CET" Despite the documentation saying: defaultTimeLocale :: TimeLocale Locale representing American usage. knownTimeZones contains only the ten time-zones mentioned in RFC 802 sec. 5: "UT", "GMT", "EST", "EDT", "CST", "CDT", "MST", "MDT", "PST", "PDT". Note that the parsing functions will regardless parse "UTC", single-letter military time-zones, and +HHMM format. =C2=B9 https://hackage.haskell.org/package/time-1.9.3/docs/Data-Time-Format= .html#g:3 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 08:48:22 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Nov 2020 13:48:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40602 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcqU2-0006Qj-OI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:48:22 -0500 Received: from virgil.koldfront.dk ([212.237.178.116]:46842) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcqU0-0006QZ-3Y for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:48:21 -0500 Received: from tullinup.koldfront.dk (tullinup.koldfront.dk [192.168.1.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by virgil.koldfront.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 996E516C28CEF for <44566@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:48:18 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 virgil.koldfront.dk 996E516C28CEF DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=koldfront.dk; s=mail; t=1605102498; bh=m8lNp9m7NILrzkvduglh89sMcUznfAoot4U889guMJ4=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=iWkhtxIylH3+aaUQtJ4MsO7+nbNx13ZCvg1Vh5pXVzmeE4AmW0BsGxQd1X9llZXl6 GrAUgGbcLYXQmjteNNVZ0qLok642qljI9ueqcRVRExu4vBo+Edh56jfy37vpuHYpFa t5QFXSwCsClIajkVSTu+VYsioJE8L7NY22daOGsGI+4bVoRIQ5ve8VWevAHK26wENc sxzGFAIdQRhC69hSTEAX7U8mj7AeyhAmDMSysHxKjrhJAAFSIip6P4EXqKp0XvmaUP YForqDlN2urESEVXKzxksxP3VzNiRCtAT+0zyYKlyKOy7jt1aPRJ65645AlgNF2Xtv LZdauiEvtAOmA== Received: by tullinup.koldfront.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8514120199FB8; Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:48:18 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Adam_Sj=C3=B8gren?= To: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> <87h7pw82jd.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87blg481ke.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc X-Hashcash: 1:25:201111:44566@debbugs.gnu.org::SpY6mHZoVOKTttXj:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000aUAl X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97, Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8gren=22's?= message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:28:49 +0100") Message-ID: <87o8k4vwbh.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I have changed the nntp-server in question to always output dates in GMT - so instead of: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET for the article in question, it now outputs: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 02:18:55 GMT which should be correct according to rfc2822, I think, and allow Gnus to show the correct lapsed time. Sorry for the noise. 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Content preview: Unknown writes: > I have changed the nntp-server in question to always output dates in GMT > - so instead of: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET > > for the article in question, it now outputs: > > Date: Wed, 11 [...] Content analysis details: (2.5 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.210.175 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.210.175 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: doraji.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 0.0 SPF_NONE SPF: sender does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager Unknown writes: > I have changed the nntp-server in question to always output dates in GMT > - so instead of: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 03:18:55 CET > > for the article in question, it now outputs: > > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 02:18:55 GMT > > which should be correct according to rfc2822, I think, and allow Gnus to > show the correct lapsed time. Just now i did check that "lapsed time" with GMT (Adam's NNTP server). Now all is good^^^ Thank you Adam^^^ Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee --=20 ^=EA=B3=A0=EB=A7=99=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4 _=E5=92=8C=E5=90=88=E5=9C=98= =E7=B5=90_ =EA=B0=90=EC=82=AC=ED=95=A9=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4_^))// From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 12 07:12:04 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2020 12:12:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43858 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBSN-00037b-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:12:04 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48200) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBSM-000376-5Z for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:12:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=MFXyPPL5R/YETnxra38GhH0E0XQUfrcnhd0gaaLsg4Y=; b=bzeXSizFrwOLCsnlMVx6tOWdEq /iGuqi0nnktGWiI1+RuwDwoSnW18Up3kN69X7mwgQk/A45c9Yrnvcozrz3210iAiG5ef8C5ySKqQ7 Q3ws59SD1h7o3RHzyyZClIW6556CdxJsMH0GlhG1pvJQ38boNPoSK7nSYCWUGUzEm+z0=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBS2-0000WV-RH; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:11:55 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Peder O. Klingenberg" Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <87tutwqfuu.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> <87r1p0jems.fsf@igel.home> <87pn4kqb2y.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEX8/PzEoaHp3tRi XGx2c4epfYSfamv///+rnxEkAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+QLDAwDI/xXpkgAAAG7SURB VDjLnZRNltsgDMc9tD2A/ELXwBFG1Htq3L06Fvt5HnP/I1SAIXnty6LzzyboF30iMk2f0Isxk3Wu H51zpn37gq8o8q/taGcHl4d2e7Ba/6wn5Zxy/5PwUeL8l1QDX31EjHGVT1O4tbJe1ohDYmfAC0Tf SFy92DfQ/ip3kyjSB/oWCHi/QIzeb8w7iwhAhw7kxwvruRYEkDK9mQ6yZFigIAs60zo88oGe5ttc QeqhvqFPJ/yeLG0tVogjFANYB05VoAfwBdRbaElGVR61JLamjk3mH24DQKnI1OsrYDToK2j3aoHD bh4AiIepYKEOECW5gHox9vuPcAdpAwdz2RUBywBS1cdOOpRIs9ULjT6Qcwk2Tw4kxUHrvcF9I9Bk HGi9ZHronH8Rle6t5nxCHOUyb0BMAkjnDD3U6vnIJ72dswVgzt1DydhxeU/HmaWCnMcNKh8PAZnT +1zA0seuYgFpyafYdTpGHyoGxExJZkxSFOLIETcBJyemM1VwjUSFPfq6cRjLiq6hJw9rM9d3VZa0 g7HTvpHtalCt92WvIaPvDT6obbwZD3jos8/y6Wt9Amz/z/jH44m96Q8WCocHpj9mdAAAACV0RVh0 ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMS0xMlQxMjowMzozNSswMDowMHTM9LYAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9k aWZ5ADIwMjAtMTEtMTJUMTI6MDM6MzUrMDA6MDAFkUwKAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Pan Amsterdam's _Ha Chu_: "Debtors Skyline" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:11:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pn4kqb2y.fsf@news.klingenberg.no> (Peder O. Klingenberg's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:25:57 +0100") Message-ID: <87ft5ebwqq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "Peder O. Klingenberg" writes: > To my human eyes, it's obvious that CET == +0100. (and CEST == +0200) > I'm in favor of teaching gnus the same interpretation, rather than > insisting on fixing random NNTP servers. I'm guessing mos [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Peder O. Klingenberg" writes: > To my human eyes, it's obvious that CET == +0100. (and CEST == +0200) > I'm in favor of teaching gnus the same interpretation, rather than > insisting on fixing random NNTP servers. I'm guessing most NNTP servers > don't see much new development these days. The "CET" thing is a local customisation -- most NNTP servers use standardised (i.e., numerical) time zones. I'm not necessarily against having parse-time-string guess at what symbolic time zones are supposed to represent, but where do we stop? CET, sure, but then what about BST (Bangladesh Standard Time and Bougainville Standard Time)? parse-time-string not having supported this for, well, ever, and somebody complaining about it in 2020 is perhaps an indicator that there are few misconfigured NNTP servers out there these days. > Besides, there's still a bug if we accept that the date should be read > as UTC0, as you say. +0000 vs +0100 should account for just one hour > difference in the article-lapsed-time, not eight. (03:18:55 +0000 is > 12:18:55 +0900, and the article-lapsed-time should have been something > like "37 minutes, 23 seconds in the future", if I've counted in the > right direction.) I don't think the CET is interpreted as UTC0 -- it's interpreted as local time? And Byung-Hee is in +09:00, which is eight hours from +01:00. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 12 07:45:59 2020 Received: (at 44566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Nov 2020 12:45:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43925 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBzC-0006wn-OO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:59 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48534) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBzB-0006qF-6t for 44566@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 07:45:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=AkRTb2SfoLAI9IlTd9NvJ751nGL/TcbYEaaGT8tbfhA=; b=Ld0SH67cq9F/il16VERYGGMdGt xyJ2rqqN9EiO2RtjH0CnCa+H8ES8lVtd6gJbfKZCMju2epz7LOrqUktZLsZbGX8w8Obtuggc1sBuD jJbzXLeHB6Yf4R21Am8flfQTF4vrvtJmWEIikSwfkgtXZRECcN+rx6vHy9wdTe89xHQc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdBz2-00011J-Ch; Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:45:51 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#44566: 27.1; time bug at Gnus References: <875z6cdxor.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6vocfh8.fsf@gnus.org> <871rh0ce2n.fsf@gnus.org> <87sg9gaymy.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8k4ay94.fsf@gnus.org> <87lff8jc1g.fsf@igel.home> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEUKCRwwKF9aSF6Y aFOYholgVpuvosr////hH+mjAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+QLDAwtI/dQr2QAAAGvSURB VDjLzdJLctswDAZgx53uTSjel0DYvSi5+4qM9nowB2g9vP8R8pOUxGQa7wvPaCR8hAHIPp3+l7g8 yJ/bf1JKZRjS9UnVwu+KGE9nTme4nMrxzSo8MwtrpRR1B8ysNAGINSRXl5hSPVNLg8qxwxORwkcY UeSYCec1869oG/2xhMWitRUf72xTc/5RgMRqJ7r3fvzdNS13+3edRTNq+vHu/zTMuuNLoQtpzEQe 8RdzKJv7pwu1WKJxSQhztQfgDLEAeo/d6TPYLkUAPOsKggqkmT1WbL6CgOlEVWh0AgvgT3ClHQzA UkqVCoBkSK8Ra1xDKBVzyweYgUzYQE3IZdAspk35DQyXHthuedGhwnUDdFtXU4Gu85wg/eC+Am4A XQGxS4bxlDnMc5lKvZgBsMZYYNZLmYpsGNbgxx0WbTpJIOKnPuU3WLseiwAse9f7WKF/HVKFTEvv b7HCIGHAcbFmGd08HrC2fHPYkSfjvMUf74DUFO/P6uAd888Kr95tcLd5pr1HjN6nmYzf0gXe8t1d 2PZrjB9gu3Xz7Tif4bh3ruYBb/HLOIX4AB7k4zsohL89RIg2HQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUA MjAyMC0xMS0xMlQxMjo0NTozNSswMDowMMkL93MAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMTEt MTJUMTI6NDU6MzUrMDA6MDC4Vk/PAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Machinedrum's _A View of U_: "Idea 36 (feat. Chrome Sparks)" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 13:45:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lff8jc1g.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Wed, 11 Nov 2020 13:47:07 +0100") Message-ID: <87tutuaglg.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Andreas Schwab writes: >> (defvar parse-time-zoneinfo `(("z" 0) ("ut" 0) ("gmt" 0) >> ("pst" , (* -8 3600)) ("pdt" ,(* -7 3600) t) >> ("mst" ,(* -7 3600)) ("mdt" ,(* -6 3600) t) >> ("cst" ,(* -6 3600)) ("cdt" ,(* -5 3600) t) [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: asjo@koldfront.dk, =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= , 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Andreas Schwab writes: >> (defvar parse-time-zoneinfo `(("z" 0) ("ut" 0) ("gmt" 0) >> ("pst" ,(* -8 3600)) ("pdt" ,(* -7 3600) t) >> ("mst" ,(* -7 3600)) ("mdt" ,(* -6 3600) t) >> ("cst" ,(* -6 3600)) ("cdt" ,(* -5 3600) t) >> ("est" ,(* -5 3600)) ("edt" ,(* -4 3600) t)) >> "(zoneinfo seconds-off daylight-savings-time-p)") > > See obs-zone in RFC2822. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: I think the conclusion here was that this was a configuration problem in the NNTP server. It might make sense for Emacs to make a guess at what the (non-standard) time zones mean in `parse-time-string', but that's a whole can of worms, so I'd rather now, and I'm closing this bug report. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44566 Cc: 44566@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I think the conclusion here was that this was a configuration problem in the NNTP server. It might make sense for Emacs to make a guess at what the (non-standard) time zones mean in `parse-time-string', but that's a whole can of worms, so I'd rather now, and I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:57:44 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 12:24:11 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator