From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 10 15:04:18 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2020 20:04:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZsI-0002Mf-9a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 15:04:18 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:59276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZjd-0008SK-WD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:55:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57700) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZjd-0000tB-Mf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:55:21 -0500 Received: from st43p00im-zteg10073501.me.com ([17.58.63.180]:51919) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kcZjY-0003Gz-2j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:55:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mac.com; s=1a1hai; t=1605038112; bh=Vrel15Rtv+GpZpsuxufgUVQBxgFNXDlES5K/I7HbJVM=; h=From:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Message-Id:Date:To; b=LV4T4ZcSe0JlRYFl9hBNck/CFFNJN+I2XU04yiLqGNIcqYfYwDiqZ8dTexQT5nK0H ToFzszcK9G5HLA8LooLbZVwWdCxrKf7N7YVIxugmH2lRyLPSY+GD2tC+oL7hSef/PE YvhIZ5oHT1mmEZxd4ax8h25nDvtQaMrguLKyaSfcZqxVPaMkek6fmegG+0wTzQi5op TtLLOL8+lzPWSCYJLfiUdQa1DPymmQ5pWCWdfjWbgic6PGC/OO0IrNjUX6TAGcxrun rr6xeRDdMZnLMDgAznwFAw1wWyapucBDfCSIi3IawexRh1w6iSIlXGnJnJqVk8dnUd Ee5T34Of+kuyg== Received: from [192.168.1.3] (216.49.34.142.res-cmts.bus.ptd.net [216.49.34.142]) by st43p00im-zteg10073501.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8F8A7AE02B4 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 2020 19:55:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher Sean Morrison Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.15\)) Subject: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:55:11 -0500 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.15) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.312, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-11-10_07:2020-11-10, 2020-11-10 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2006250000 definitions=main-2011100135 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=17.58.63.180; envelope-from=brlcad@mac.com; helo=st43p00im-zteg10073501.me.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/10 14:55:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -19 X-Spam_score: -2.0 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, GAPPY_SUBJECT=0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 15:04:17 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.2 (--) Ido is not prompting for file delete confirmation during C-k. Upon installing Graphene (require 'graphene) which enables Ido everywhere, I found myself accidentally deleting files when attempting to switch to other files via C-x C-v and being accustomed to running C-k to cut the current file name from the minibuffer line and type a new file name. For example, touch file1 file2; emacs file1; C-x C-v C-k file2 [enter]. With default bindings, that's an efficient switch to file2 but instead=20= is resulting in file1 being silently deleted. According to a comment in ido.el, C-k is supposed to confirm the deletion but no confirmation is presented. I'm running 27.1 installed from brew on MacOSX. Configured using: 'configure --disable-silent-rules --enable-locallisppath=3D/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp --infodir=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/27.1/share/info/emacs --prefix=3D/usr/local/Cellar/emacs/27.1 --with-gnutls --without-x --with-xml2 --without-dbus --with-modules --without-ns --without-imagemagick' Configured features: NOTIFY KQUEUE ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER GMP Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t project-persist-drawer-mode: t project-persist-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t ido-ubiquitous-mode: t ido-everywhere: t delete-selection-mode: t global-company-mode: t company-mode: t smartparens-global-mode: t smartparens-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t global-visual-line-mode: t visual-line-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: ~/.emacs.d/lisp/cmake-mode hides = /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/cmake/cmake-mode Features: (shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message rmc puny dired dired-loaddefs format-spec rfc822 mml mml-sec epa derived epg epg-config gnus-util rmail rmail-loaddefs time-date mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils misearch multi-isearch jka-compr eieio-opt cl-extra help-fns radix-tree ffap bookmark text-property-search pp term/xterm xterm flycheck ansi-color find-func rx paren linum graphene graphene-look graphene-osx-defaults graphene-projects ppd-sr-speedbar project-persist-drawer sr-speedbar speedbar sb-image ezimage image dframe project-persist graphene-env autorevert filenotify ido-completing-read+ memoize minibuf-eldef smex ido graphene-editing delsel smartparens-html web-mode disp-table company-oddmuse company-keywords company-etags etags fileloop generator xref project ring company-gtags company-dabbrev-code company-dabbrev company-files company-clang company-capf company-cmake company-semantic company-template company-bbdb company edmacro kmacro pcase graphene-smartparens-config smartparens-config smartparens-text smartparens advice help-mode dash graphene-helper-functions finder-inf cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cus-edit cus-start cus-load wid-edit google-c-style cc-defs regexp-opt cmake-mode thingatpt info tool-bar package easymenu browse-url url-handlers url-parse auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs eieio-loaddefs password-cache json subr-x map url-vars seq byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile cconv cl-loaddefs cl-lib tooltip eldoc electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode elisp-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch timer select mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer cl-generic cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev obarray cl-preloaded nadvice loaddefs button faces cus-face macroexp files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote threads kqueue multi-tty make-network-process emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 306295 12861) (symbols 48 22766 2) (strings 32 99999 1371) (string-bytes 1 2760347) (vectors 16 29865) (vector-slots 8 346698 12318) (floats 8 104 654) (intervals 56 263 0) (buffers 1000 13)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 11 05:12:41 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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Content preview: Christopher Sean Morrison writes: > Ido is not prompting for file delete confirmation during C-k. > > Upon installing Graphene (require 'graphene) which enables Ido > everywhere, I found myself accidentally deleting files when attempt [...] Content analysis details: (-0.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Christopher Sean Morrison writes: > Ido is not prompting for file delete confirmation during C-k. > > Upon installing Graphene (require 'graphene) which enables Ido > everywhere, I found myself accidentally deleting files when attempting > to switch to other files via C-x C-v and being accustomed to running C-k > to cut the current file name from the minibuffer line and type a new > file name. For example, touch file1 file2; emacs file1; C-x C-v C-k > file2 [enter]. Can you give a recipe for reproducing this bug, starting from "emacs -Q"? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Can you give a recipe for reproducing this bug, starting from > "emacs -Q"? I do not have Graphene installed (which seems to be a package > from Melpa), so a recipe for reproducing the bug without i [...] Content analysis details: (-0.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Can you give a recipe for reproducing this bug, starting from > "emacs -Q"? I do not have Graphene installed (which seems to be a package > from Melpa), so a recipe for reproducing the bug without installing that > package would be nice. More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. 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Content preview: close 44556 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 44556 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 09 10:26:28 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 15:26:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn1MK-0000Bb-Ic for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:26:28 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:46281) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn1MI-0000BN-Ub for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 10:26:27 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C1AEB.000000005FD0EC9C.000026C0; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:26:19 +0000 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 18:24:17 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k Message-ID: References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: Christopher Sean Morrison , 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2020-12-09 18:13]: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > Can you give a recipe for reproducing this bug, starting from > > "emacs -Q"? I do not have Graphene installed (which seems to be a package > > from Melpa), so a recipe for reproducing the bug without installing that > > package would be nice. > > More information was requested, but no response was given within a > month, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, > please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. I have tried C-x C-v and that completes to open file literally and then C-k is bound to the function below. I cannot see the bug, it is rather key binding in ido to delete the file. C-k runs the command ido-delete-file-at-head (found in ido-completion-map), which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in ‘ido.el’. It is bound to C-k. (ido-delete-file-at-head) Delete the file at the head of ‘ido-matches’. Trash the file if ‘delete-by-moving-to-trash’ is non-nil. If cursor is not at the end of the user input, delete to end of input. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 09 14:23:50 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 19:23:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36151 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn541-0004Gh-So for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:23:50 -0500 Received: from st43p00im-zteg10072001.me.com ([17.58.63.167]:37308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn53z-0004GT-GL for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:23:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mac.com; s=1a1hai; t=1607541821; bh=7d5dxPGKyKLJCaYljXqsJO9Sx1pVrLpNI0jMYfjqJ5g=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date:Message-Id:To; b=nzW1z/Ir8Dq4/YmL9DbD8b+wKzOx0CMdJbd0hTRo4BT/jf5ZH46r3MYyyZfo/ccXU 2PSEleq9bb2RrrP6FlR+aZVEjArQgYYFQeOrycVNq5xpAg/qrTDooSuBApgf16ENYz Jr2EpZx3Wjp8SYJJqn29jblOcNNjgSLULukLNHh2cREtaaU5t2jDoRA1OnWcvHrOVc YTqlJFzdOnMXl/TdPMAmuaOyanRlVFd3djAav2l+Q6h3jDTlCift51QY4LL4Nv3EEH 1yvbIGCON7unnz2hfF3i1c8Bpf4EYbtG8I94jHGsHyO1JnVQVIjt2czDc/6wsIQTEH H2vnUcN8zRVWw== Received: from agua.lan (c-69-138-222-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net [69.138.222.95]) by st43p00im-zteg10072001.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A896C05B3; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:23:41 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k From: Christopher Sean Morrison In-Reply-To: <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 14:23:40 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.15) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-12-09_16:2020-12-09, 2020-12-09 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=578 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2006250000 definitions=main-2012090136 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) >> Can you give a recipe for reproducing this bug, starting from >> "emacs -Q"? I do not have Graphene installed (which seems to be a = package >> from Melpa), so a recipe for reproducing the bug without installing = that >> package would be nice. >=20 > More information was requested, but no response was given within a=20 > month, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, > please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. Closing the report is unexpected (and comes across as rude, in my humble = opinion, if you=E2=80=99re interested in social interaction feedback). = You asked for a reproduction recipe, which I=E2=80=99d already provided = in the original bug report (see the "For example" sentence). That came = across to me as lazy disinterest from an unknown, which I was not = inclined to engage. I realize this may have simply been a = misunderstanding due to the manner in which the response was worded. As I said, I provided the recipe that affected me in the original report = =E2=80=94 see the =E2=80=9CFor example=E2=80=9D line. I do not know if = this issue occurs in any other context, e.g., with/without Graphene and = am not any more available to explore those possibilities. I did report = the bug with the Graphene developer, they investigated, and determined = it was a bug in Ido. That=E2=80=99s why I then took the time to report = the issue here with the information I made available. I don=E2=80=99t know the inner workings of Ido to dig deeper on why it = is not prompting for confirmation as that's the crux of this report. If = I ctrl-k, file is deleted silently without confirmation. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 09 15:26:27 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 20:26:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn62d-0007z0-Aq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:26:27 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:51665) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn62b-0007yl-TW for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:26:26 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E525.000000005FD132EA.0000582D; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 13:26:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 23:22:31 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Christopher Sean Morrison Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k Message-ID: References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) * Christopher Sean Morrison via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of tex > I don’t know the inner workings of Ido to dig deeper on why it is > not prompting for confirmation as that's the crux of this report. > If I ctrl-k, file is deleted silently without confirmation. It is made as function in that package. I find it badly designed as C-k means by default to kill-line and user can make mistake easily. Why should completing package have function to delete file during completion?! Wow I am surprised. Better don't use it. Use ivy from GNU ELPA. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 09 15:35:52 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 20:35:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36300 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6Bk-0008Eu-E7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:35:52 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42328) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6Bi-0008Eg-Ss for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 15:35:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Y2pHzkOQ3haFMxh49s9NRXiOpSSg9EjCpOHkQSE4Cxw=; b=TNPKm/JPk14K+eyHtvJs+Wvxnc JmD122397ZTV6BSHhkHLNjNFZxNVfvRpYith1YAV0cXL4KbeDpI/p/22xiiwAXs1Fc7bE1Iwj8KyE A71bJnebFIVW0f3a01IFy+tsrUi5KSrWigDrv+BRAhyj5SwdgMnXyE6/yMxHjnpYx3tE=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6Ba-0005Lb-25; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 21:35:44 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Christopher Sean Morrison Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> X-Now-Playing: =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B3isin?= Murphy's _Murphy's Law (Crooked Remixes)_: "Murphy's Law (Crooked Cowbelly 2)" Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 21:35:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> (Christopher Sean Morrison's message of "Wed, 9 Dec 2020 14:23:40 -0500") Message-ID: <87pn3ivhsz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Christopher Sean Morrison writes: > As I said, I provided the recipe that affected me in the original > report — see the “For example” line. I do not know if this issue > occurs in any other context, e.g., with/without Graphene [...] Content analysis details: (-0.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 2.0 GAPPY_SUBJECT Subject: contains G.a.p.p.y-T.e.x.t X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) Christopher Sean Morrison writes: > As I said, I provided the recipe that affected me in the original > report =E2=80=94 see the =E2=80=9CFor example=E2=80=9D line. I do not kn= ow if this issue > occurs in any other context, e.g., with/without Graphene and am not > any more available to explore those possibilities. I interpreted your bug report to say that you needed Graphene to reproduce the problem, but I see now that you didn't really say that. The recipe is: touch file1 file2 emacs -Q -f ido-mode file1 C-x C-v C-k Emacs will now say "Delete /tmp/file1 (yes or no)", and that is indeed pretty surprising behaviour. It's due to this: (defvar ido-file-completion-map [...] (define-key map "\C-k" 'ido-delete-file-at-head) I had no idea that that existed -- I use ido myself, but not for files. Anybody who uses ido for files here? Do you really use this to delete files? It seems really odd to mix up file deletion into a file name completion framework. 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Content preview: tags 44556 - moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 44556 - moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 09 16:01:28 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 21:01:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6aW-0002Wf-B3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:01:28 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:45195) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6aU-0002WP-2E for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:01:27 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E00D.000000005FD13B1E.00005BD1; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:01:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 23:58:56 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k Message-ID: References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> <87pn3ivhsz.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87pn3ivhsz.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: Christopher Sean Morrison , 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2020-12-09 23:43]: > Christopher Sean Morrison writes: > > > As I said, I provided the recipe that affected me in the original > > report — see the “For example” line. I do not know if this issue > > occurs in any other context, e.g., with/without Graphene and am not > > any more available to explore those possibilities. > > I interpreted your bug report to say that you needed Graphene to > reproduce the problem, but I see now that you didn't really say that. > > The recipe is: > > touch file1 file2 > emacs -Q -f ido-mode file1 > C-x C-v C-k > > Emacs will now say "Delete /tmp/file1 (yes or no)", and that is indeed > pretty surprising behaviour. When I do it, it asks nothing, as I have delete-by-moving-to-trash. But there is one general problem with that function and that is that C-j is close to C-k and people like me work in the dark not looking at keyboard. C-j means to complete the file but if C-k is pressed by mistake file will end up in trash without question and possibly get lost. It is good to remove the malfunction from key bindings. Better is to remove it completely. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 09 16:16:29 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 21:16:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36355 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6p3-0002tR-7N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:16:29 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:52453) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6p0-0002t5-Um for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:16:27 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.31]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000001E00D.000000005FD13EA2.00005D8D; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 14:16:18 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 00:15:10 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Christopher Sean Morrison Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k Message-ID: References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) * Christopher Sean Morrison via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [2020-12-09 23:05]: > I don’t know the inner workings of Ido to dig deeper on why it is > not prompting for confirmation as that's the crux of this report. > If I ctrl-k, file is deleted silently without confirmation. Do you have variable delete-by-moving-to-trash as T ? Then the file may be still in your trash to be recovered. It looks like C-k in ido would ask you to delete the file but if the variable is set, the file would go silently to Trash. Anyway I hope that function is completely removed by developers as it is close to C-j to expand the completion. Use Ivy for completion or helm. I found that standard Emacs completion is less obtrusive and equally efficient. I use Ivy or helm when I need relevance search to match words apart form each other. Otherwise using joker *artial-file-name in built-in completion is just quick. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 09 16:19:20 2020 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2020 21:19:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36361 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6ro-0002xw-Lo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:19:20 -0500 Received: from st43p00im-ztbu10063601.me.com ([17.58.63.174]:49245) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kn6rm-0002xj-SN for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:19:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mac.com; s=1a1hai; t=1607548753; bh=ZQsXII55fIeNChEoScQeyrxBrpjIuE/iWCEvO2RRf5I=; h=From:Message-Id:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:To; b=HP/LLqBLROKOUoZ5dZXmzK/46XL4cBbzvk5p2SqA18OFEhvutMHuaECIGo/kZxLSO X+mJ+oneRI6o/oCRbnReLHhJZ7/vJFcJhMYF/Q21xa5V2EWG7D/tKvFNFWe0GVl6BR j4iZgAzMSbUdzmDBnCr9ki2LYQabvmNtrjSuhcybKqp2kwzK/dnwcy/bqaA0C6+2WY KsHT+NKaqg9ykTGqbqpavvYm4z5Yerb48/GeFhbgPL2iOYqRYSMd4yggYfuenCZPbR yJqO9xMc92/tJZFp1yRsDWykmbnVeOwvPNcFn88CTewOyJLYlRty5aM1VD4dBMp1EY 3kHRXde4LV2dw== Received: from agua.lan (c-69-138-222-95.hsd1.va.comcast.net [69.138.222.95]) by st43p00im-ztbu10063601.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCFB87001DA; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 21:19:12 +0000 (UTC) From: Christopher Sean Morrison Message-Id: <1355AD8F-2F75-419C-BB2B-F94271073D7E@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_56A11B39-F064-4F5C-9065-D263AAE4F33A" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.15\)) Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 16:19:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: To: Jean Louis References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> <87pn3ivhsz.fsf@gnus.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.15) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2020-12-09_18:2020-12-09, 2020-12-09 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=704 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2006250000 definitions=main-2012090148 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 44556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) --Apple-Mail=_56A11B39-F064-4F5C-9065-D263AAE4F33A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > When I do it, it asks nothing, as I have delete-by-moving-to-trash. I just checked and that appears to be my situation as well. I don=E2=80=99= t know if Graphene set that variable or some other package (as Graphene = uses an amalgamation), but delete-by-moving-to-trash is =E2=80=99t=E2=80=99= for me and it indeeds asks nothing. I=E2=80=99d still expect it to = prompt, but never even considered looking in the Trash=E2=80=A6 = (running on Mac platform) > It is good to remove the malfunction from key bindings. Better is to > remove it completely. +1 on removing it completely. That=E2=80=99s a dangerous binding = considering it=E2=80=99s typically =E2=80=9Ccut to end of line=E2=80=9D. --Apple-Mail=_56A11B39-F064-4F5C-9065-D263AAE4F33A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

When I do it, it asks nothing, as I have = delete-by-moving-to-trash.

I just checked and that appears to be my situation as = well.  I don=E2=80=99t know if Graphene set that variable or some = other package (as Graphene uses an amalgamation), but = delete-by-moving-to-trash is =E2=80=99t=E2=80=99 for me and it indeeds = asks nothing.  I=E2=80=99d still expect it to prompt, but never = even considered looking in the Trash=E2=80=A6  (running on Mac = platform)

It is good to remove the malfunction from key bindings. = Better is to
remove it = completely.

+1 on removing it completely.  That=E2=80=99s a = dangerous binding considering it=E2=80=99s typically =E2=80=9Ccut to end = of line=E2=80=9D.

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Content preview: close 44556 29.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 44556 29.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 28 07:44:13 2022 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Feb 2022 12:44:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOfNt-0004ZJ-CW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 07:44:13 -0500 Received: from mail.ptlnet.com ([94.229.138.130]:65197) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nOfNr-0004Z8-PG for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 07:44:12 -0500 Received: from thinkpad.notlocalhost ([10.9.0.1]) by mail.ptlnet.com (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 21SCi7DR009229 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for <44556@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:44:09 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=precedence.co.uk; s=mail; t=1646052249; bh=1aD1KLe6ac3xC9TegMHy4bX7a/zi0uzZf2+xG1mh4J8=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=HY4xmvd1CFBIz9lNOBpU2I+zlyXVHzD0akO9hDJGx8+cknBvsEL9EoA2mVEla3j32 UU7IGVZlTy2Fcudjk4NXJz6SDwFuq3ZXXZRzc/qhD0F9BYjy7UDH/sd41m183s+MjY OsRe+eN4InSXqE4YI+wjNoxT7vFxHi67Fj7LFqmI= From: Morgan Willcock To: 44556@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> <87pn3ivhsz.fsf@gnus.org> <1355AD8F-2F75-419C-BB2B-F94271073D7E@mac.com> <877d9zuksf.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:44:07 +0000 In-Reply-To: <877d9zuksf.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 13 Feb 2022 11:24:00 +0100") Message-ID: <86v8wztb3c.fsf@precedence.co.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (windows-nt) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (mail.ptlnet.com [192.168.10.250]); Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:44:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44556 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Christopher Sean Morrison writes: > >> It is good to remove the malfunction from key bindings. Better is to >> remove it completely. >> >> +1 on removing it completely. That=E2=80=99s a dangerous binding consid= ering it=E2=80=99s typically >> =E2=80=9Ccut to end of line=E2=80=9D. > > I've now done this in Emacs 29. I happened across this bug report and was surprised by the end result. To state my case for a different solution: - The C-k functionality is one of the core features of ido-mode, as evidenced by the same feature being re-implemented to create fido-mode - The C-k functionality is still present in fido-mode (although it can never silently delete a file) with the same key binding active by default - ido-mode is not enabled by default and delete-by-moving-to-trash defaults to nil, therefore nothing is silently deleted by default - "Upon installing Graphene (require 'graphene) which enables Ido everywhere". Surely this is the cause of the original issue and the Graphene package is at last partially responsible for the problem? In order to keep the functionality would it be possible to revert the change but introduce a new ido-mode configuration variable? This new variable could be checked in place of delete-by-moving-to-trash to indicate that silent deleting is allowed, and the default value can prevent silent deleting unless the user enables it. This would re-align with the fido-mode operation and also protect against accidental deletions. Thanks, Morgan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 01 10:43:22 2022 Received: (at 44556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2022 15:43:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38020 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4eo-0006Mn-0d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:43:22 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49298) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4em-0006MW-G6 for 44556@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 10:43:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=c8f7UZSsFuPt4q3ux0nsuLbiF9UISirLH8A/Rvlo67k=; b=HwI6s12ORCdYacZImZJRPQPecg cnpjP0Qkc5KK73CXpYDFu7NsP+K17u9sWszgxnrNQu66fgrPf2t8X9+ZvhBvt5EZU75tjuB/OSWUb /lyCIuOetHvlyNKMEmTunZJIkfBO1SeWfu5JRYTHtUCHOosueMnIJvAbq8MlOOLmciRQ=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nP4ed-0007nO-FW; Tue, 01 Mar 2022 16:43:14 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Morgan Willcock Subject: Re: bug#44556: 27.1; Ido deletes file without configuration with C-x C-v C-k References: <87o8k4cicz.fsf@gnus.org> <87k0tr10a6.fsf@gnus.org> <86C0D40E-5DAD-452B-ACCB-C6E18E7F988D@mac.com> <87pn3ivhsz.fsf@gnus.org> <1355AD8F-2F75-419C-BB2B-F94271073D7E@mac.com> <877d9zuksf.fsf@gnus.org> <86v8wztb3c.fsf@precedence.co.uk> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEX87bjo1aXYxZnI tY2mk3K7qIPpkVXKeUVmRzGSdFWbXTZbRjT++cL////zD2oIAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+YDAQ8pFKYVQyEAAAF2SURBVDjLY2AYhoARhziTohJ2CWMBEUxBYaNAlvSKKaiCykGCLkaKIlnp q8sSUCQCZxtvCRKRWtWxYlkaioQAp+AWB89dOzo6lqUJoMiwMG6dMmNXR9eqsrQEHkYlhKSm6pbO aSuqytLS0hJEg42EYeIiJsZbZrRXAYXTVy/wNlVUjjkA8e8kFdUdM9XKl6WVp1c0GDkxuRg6Qmxw cmXZaahSvryrvGr5JkOVyE6XTRAJB09lQ5OQFenbV3UvWzll9s7OnRAJBkdrJVUDZe9ly5evKLPe snvGTJgEY7ezIYMg17ZVqzsStbfMnums2AT1hhPIMtYdqzu6dayVDQUElR2Qo4FFe/aMKQLKCsKq QZ6o3mfZbKRkbKTq6qw8GS1cHJgMGQVVlI1MFJDFeaRlDhgxGis7RTqiBiSPt+PhGGMeZmYFHbSE 4CB4RGAik4HRgQPosXvgiI1KkKgOAyZgdGZUDjyARYKH1SUQe/rhYTjDMAroAQDZz2UAZ0uJ2wAA ACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wMy0wMVQxNTo0MToyMCswMDowMLLs9e4AAAAldEVYdGRh dGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjItMDMtMDFUMTU6NDE6MjArMDA6MDDDsU1SAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Neil Young's _Harvest_: "Out On The Weekend" Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 16:43:08 +0100 In-Reply-To: <86v8wztb3c.fsf@precedence.co.uk> (Morgan Willcock's message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2022 12:44:07 +0000") Message-ID: <871qzln0fn.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Morgan Willcock writes: > - The C-k functionality is one of the core features of ido-mode, as > evidenced by the same feature being re-implemented to create fido-mode Of course it's not a core feature -- I've used ido mode for years and never came across it. 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NEWS has instructions for how to re-enable the feature for users that like it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Fri Aug 15 19:35:48 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator