From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Nov 06 08:54:22 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Nov 2020 13:54:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55409 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kb2C6-0006Mz-De for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:54:22 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:51030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kb2C4-0006Ms-Ns for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:54:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45212) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb2C4-0000kl-FY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:54:20 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37107) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb2C4-0000ya-7I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:54:20 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4412 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kb2C3-0007kz-Jb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 08:54:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2020 15:54:18 +0200 Message-Id: <83k0uy8ub9.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; Confusing syntax warning in ELisp mode X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) emacs -Q Insert into *scratch*: (insert (quux (foobar foo) this) "\n") Observe that "\n" and the following parentheses are highlighted in red -- the font-lock-warning-face. Move the mouse pointer to the highlighted text, obserbe the following tooltip: Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line? It took me quite some time to understand what this tries to tell me. The key problems with this seem to be: . "Hidden behind deeper element" is unclear, because neither "hidden" nor "deeper" have any immediately obvious relation to the code. . "Move to another line" is not clear because "another" is the wrong word here. It is also not clear that the question indicates a suggestion. This could perhaps be improved by using something like "suggest to re-indent to move it to the next line". It would be nice to make this warning clearer. (I personally think the issue is so minor that it hardly justifies a warning, but if we do show a warning, let's at least make it clear.) In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 741, i686-pc-mingw32) of 2020-11-06 built on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Repository revision: af6891629d48f348b6458384898a637cc7ce16e7 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 System Description: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v5.1.0.2600) Configured using: 'configure -C --prefix=/d/usr --with-wide-int --with-modules --enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -gdwarf-4 -g3'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND NOTIFY W32NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 HARFBUZZ ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 Important settings: value of $LANG: ENU locale-coding-system: cp1255 Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Observe that "\n" and the following parentheses are highlighted in > red -- the font-lock-warning-face. Move the mouse pointer to the > highlighted text, obserbe the following tooltip: > > Hidden be [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44482 Cc: 44482@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Observe that "\n" and the following parentheses are highlighted in > red -- the font-lock-warning-face. Move the mouse pointer to the > highlighted text, obserbe the following tooltip: > > Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line? > > It took me quite some time to understand what this tries to tell me. Yes, it's not very clear. I've now changed it to "Easy to misread; consider moving the element to the next line" -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 09 10:51:48 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Nov 2020 15:51:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35262 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kc9SO-0005rY-0h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 10:51:48 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43326) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kc9SM-0005rK-3c for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 10:51:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=VrUNcQkpVxGfLlB2XoaBlpGEX/nN13S1eYwOKrG4TF4=; b=KHylY4/huwJ3NA5Szdyv9c+H8E GNHPou8j8OpPwDwpxQo4PEZXkJa5orrXiYrrUltZt88YTwb5imkkKr4iDVO3NI1+WaMYwvBxbJyUO N/4zd9bPqMOnJEZpsYKGo6c5oOyZ3I4ieNI+Rybwu1rgZVq6mSKtOqXzsQvcIHjzjAWY=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kc9SE-0007am-8l for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:51:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:51:37 +0100 Message-Id: <875z6ele9i.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #44482 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 44482 fixed close 44482 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 44482 fixed close 44482 28.1 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 09 11:16:05 2020 Received: (at 44482) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Nov 2020 16:16:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35340 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kc9ps-0001Di-Od for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 11:16:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kc9pr-00016R-6n for 44482@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 11:16:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:46122) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kc9pm-0005w8-06; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 11:15:58 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1754 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kc9pl-0000dm-6Y; Mon, 09 Nov 2020 11:15:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 18:16:04 +0200 Message-Id: <83mtzq4ibf.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <877dqule9t.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:51:26 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#44482: 28.0.50; Confusing syntax warning in ELisp mode References: <83k0uy8ub9.fsf@gnu.org> <877dqule9t.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44482 Cc: 44482@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: 44482@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2020 16:51:26 +0100 > > > Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line? > > > > It took me quite some time to understand what this tries to tell me. > > Yes, it's not very clear. I've now changed it to > > "Easy to misread; consider moving the element to the next line" Much better, thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:55:57 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 12:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator