From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 04 13:42:19 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Nov 2020 18:42:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kaNjf-0003sn-D1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:42:19 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:35960) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kaNja-0003sc-T9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:42:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaNja-0001Mh-IZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:42:14 -0500 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:34278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaNjY-00024H-3X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 13:42:13 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0A4IXSHt016286 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 18:42:07 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=CTllfWMAcXX9xa2ZQ4PmfQ8ER++V2wt5QcBAuHYQ7oM=; b=rKdKjsUUl2KIA7gRrOzeTgkESNiCXA96eJ1oIlDI/bChLqNaRaugtsX/Oh2rV7VrfZA/ CGquC+ymA9wa1Dnzm5vELB3jxpHMR01oRH4MGeoLlzCO4hWEe0vllHLRrc1J63kNL22R MrapPf3i00GOTVM6yNFUuY1uUcDsk4zFo7AXxsvnvcJ9HAJp8SntdbWtNcmPeD5lQfOA o0N1J1N/4lhqRWXBnFb1PySBlARsfsikFmQJrRvMYWu1Wihlk6pZsBm903V+GoImlLAY rc87qUTCz9XjEhqsp0VoI+4eQLdJI0bynYdS68dFJQzUtxjd3jHwB/zr7qbJJfyA0QNN pg== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34hhvcgakw-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0A4IYjD3088371 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 18:40:06 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 34hw0fxqrn-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 04 Nov 2020 18:40:06 +0000 Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0A4Ie2uZ025605 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2020 18:40:03 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <06536d27-20de-407a-b79a-a633c0c459a3@default> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 10:40:01 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 27.1; doc string of `read-char-from-minibuffer' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9795 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 mlxlogscore=838 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011040135 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9795 signatures=668682 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 impostorscore=0 malwarescore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxlogscore=852 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1015 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2011040135 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=141.146.126.78; envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=aserp2120.oracle.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/04 13:42:08 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) "Read a character from the minibuffer, prompting for PROMPT." You are not prompted for PROMPT. You are prompted (for a char) with PROMPT. "When HISTORY is a symbol, then allows navigating in a history." English: it should be "When...symbol, allow navigating..." But it's not clear what "navigating in a history" means. The description of `M-n' etc. isn't clear - or needed. And what if HISTORY is non-nil but not a symbol? In any case, I suggest you just say that HISTORY is passed to `read-from-minibuffer', which is the case. That function's HISTORY description is clear and complete, and it involves more than what is described here. In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2020-08-12 built on CIRROCUMULUS Repository revision: 86d8d76aa36037184db0b2897c434cdaab1a9ae8 Repository branch: HEAD Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18362 System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (v10.0.1903.18362.1082) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 05 01:33:48 2020 Received: (at 44451) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Nov 2020 06:33:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51430 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kaYqC-00051b-Eq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:33:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36634) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kaYqA-00051O-C2 for 44451@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:33:47 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52403) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kaYq5-0004MB-22; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:33:41 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kaYq3-0002Nw-QH; Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:33:40 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: <06536d27-20de-407a-b79a-a633c0c459a3@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 4 Nov 2020 10:40:01 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: bug#44451: 27.1; doc string of `read-char-from-minibuffer' References: <06536d27-20de-407a-b79a-a633c0c459a3@default> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2020 01:33:39 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44451 Cc: 44451@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > "Read a character from the minibuffer, prompting for PROMPT." > You are not prompted for PROMPT. You are prompted (for a char) > with PROMPT. That is true, but there are kinder ways to make that point. For instance, ` Actuallly, it prompts with PROMPT, not for RROMPT. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Nov 07 04:13:01 2020 Received: (at 44451-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Nov 2020 09:13:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57944 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kbKHN-0005no-3x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 04:13:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:48888) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kbKHL-0005nb-Pb for 44451-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 04:13:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kbKHG-0002O0-8q; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 04:12:54 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4565 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kbKHE-0004oi-TC; Sat, 07 Nov 2020 04:12:53 -0500 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2020 11:12:53 +0200 Message-Id: <83mtzt7coa.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: <06536d27-20de-407a-b79a-a633c0c459a3@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 4 Nov 2020 10:40:01 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: bug#44451: 27.1; doc string of `read-char-from-minibuffer' References: <06536d27-20de-407a-b79a-a633c0c459a3@default> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44451-done Cc: 44451-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2020 10:40:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > > "Read a character from the minibuffer, prompting for PROMPT." > > You are not prompted for PROMPT. You are prompted (for a char) > with PROMPT. Fixed. > "When HISTORY is a symbol, then allows navigating in a history." > > English: it should be "When...symbol, allow navigating..." Fixed. > But it's not clear what "navigating in a history" means. The > description of `M-n' etc. isn't clear - or needed. And what if > HISTORY is non-nil but not a symbol? You get an error, I think. > In any case, I suggest you just say that HISTORY is passed to > `read-from-minibuffer', which is the case. That isn't accurate: this function really expects HISTORY to be a symbol of a history variable. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:41:52 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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