From rgm@gnu.org Mon Sep 14 11:56:55 2009 Received: (at quiet) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 14 Sep 2009 18:56:55 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.1 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8EIuste023066 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:56:55 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MnGjN-0001vG-Lb; Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:56:53 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: quiet Subject: Message creates ~/mail X-Spook: Iran gamma Elvis ANDVT AVIP Bruxelles mania kilo class X-Ran: yt/wf/zPs|_@8t=4Fs%K&&~?QCd>^*<2G9r8>yt1VX78+p_**R't)`)DFzrSTDG;oMW;3] X-Hue: red X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:56:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3kmy4x73t6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii See discussion at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-09/msg00326.html emacs -Q C-x m C-x k RET and you have a ~/Mail directory. This behaviour represents a change from mail-mode, which uses ~ for auto-saves IIUC. From rgm@gnu.org Thu Sep 17 13:50:17 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Sep 2009 20:50:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,ONEWORD,VALID_BTS_CONTROL, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8HKoGAd029095 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:50:17 -0700 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MoNvh-00043b-CY; Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:50:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19122.41221.297337.516259@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:50:13 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes severity 4403 minor severity 4432 minor tags 4409 moreinfo reassign 4409 emacs,ns severity 4398 minor reassign 4467 emacs,ns merge 4297 4467 close 4386 close 4399 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 19:28:33 2011 Received: (at 4432) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 23:28:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgmNR-0001WF-Vs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:28:33 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgmNH-0001Vf-RI for 4432@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:28:23 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QgmN4-0007u2-Hv; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:28:06 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: Message creates ~/mail In-Reply-To: <3kmy4x73t6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:56:53 -0400") Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:27:29 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3kmy4x73t6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Peter Gabriel's _B-Sides and More (1)_: "Suzanne" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110712:4432@debbugs.gnu.org::L6fMI/X+2/2HcJ1m:000000000000000000000000000000000000000008wXb X-Hashcash: 1:23:110712:rgm@gnu.org::4xsfNKEN9cROaCMS:000000d1A3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QgmN4-0007u2-Hv X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311118086.73156@5GW7ixlrvlARKuO/R4fIBw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4432 Cc: 4432@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Glenn Morris writes: > See discussion at > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-09/msg00326.html > > emacs -Q > C-x m > C-x k RET > > and you have a ~/Mail directory. > > This behaviour represents a change from mail-mode, which uses ~ for > auto-saves IIUC. Is this a bug, though? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 19:51:16 2011 Received: (at 4432) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 23:51:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgmjU-0002rp-0h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:51:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QgmjR-0002rd-6I for 4432@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:51:13 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56597) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgmjL-0001mz-2W; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:51:07 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: Message creates ~/mail References: <3kmy4x73t6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spook: Bruxelles Plame halcon Sears Tower COSCO ASO MD4 spies X-Ran: -Btc/P7kiauoxexT8enHLlWdwQO;=+k=T2MAR\gKgN>_iqI[2BGXq%V;MUQF!rGH<8M]&z X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:51:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:27:29 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4432 Cc: 4432@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Is this a bug, though? http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-09/msg00328.html "I'd tend to agree. Make it a bug-report?" It still annoys me that every time I fire up emacs -Q C-x m to test something, I have to delete ~/Mail afterwards. And I can't even use rmdir, because it contains an empty `drafts' subdirectory. Grr. If ~/Mail does not exist already, hide the auto-saves away somewhere under ~/.emacs.d rather than creating ~/Mail just for them and and I will be happy. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 15:46:02 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 19:46:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiAoL-000689-L2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:46:01 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiAoK-00067v-Ao for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:46:00 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QiAo8-00047z-FJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:48 +0200 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:47 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #4432 X-MailScanner-ID: 1QiAo8-00047z-FJ X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311450348.55414@tOI9bzMASwj9r2n/ru7OZA X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) tags 4432 fixed close 4432 24.1 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 16 15:46:07 2011 Received: (at 4432) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2011 19:46:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiAoQ-000693-TF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:46:07 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiAoP-000682-1Z for 4432@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 15:46:05 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QiAoD-000489-2U; Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:53 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: Message creates ~/mail In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:51:06 -0400") Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 21:45:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3kmy4x73t6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Laurie Freelove's _Heaven On Earth_: "Heaven On Earth (Radio Edit-LP Version)" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110716:4432@debbugs.gnu.org::sq/Uuto4srDU1w1D:000000000000000000000000000000000000000005SIK X-Hashcash: 1:23:110716:rgm@gnu.org::3w/h7KTVLFYBNe/f:000000xRdJ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QiAoD-000489-2U X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311450353.14678@fdLlZgh5Nja83n0WAxugmw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4432 Cc: 4432@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Glenn Morris writes: > It still annoys me that every time I fire up > > emacs -Q C-x m > > to test something, I have to delete ~/Mail afterwards. And I can't even > use rmdir, because it contains an empty `drafts' subdirectory. Grr. > > If ~/Mail does not exist already, hide the auto-saves away somewhere > under ~/.emacs.d rather than creating ~/Mail just for them and and I > will be happy. I've changed it to save the auto-saves to ~. That way no directories will be created by sending email under -Q. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From unknown Mon Sep 08 13:06:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator