From unknown Tue Aug 19 14:22:47 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4425: bet this article's scrollbar doesn't reach the bottom Reply-To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 4425@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:25:13 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 4425 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125287294028400 (code B ref -1); Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:25:13 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Sep 2009 20:15:40 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8DKFbbJ028397 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:15:39 -0700 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:48706) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MmvU1-0004hZ-5Z for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:15:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmvTz-0002oc-Fr for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:15:36 -0400 Received: from caiajhbdcaid.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.83]:59614 helo=homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MmvTz-0002oS-73 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:15:35 -0400 Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-6-61.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.6.61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a6.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FFD155D5 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org References: <87d45u7s8j.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 04:15:26 +0800 Message-ID: <87iqfma9ep.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.6) of 2009-09-10 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090909-1) >>>>> "RS" == Reiner Steib writes: RS> On Sun, Sep 13 2009, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: >> Gentlemen, observe your scrollbar on the side of this *Article* buffer. >> Does it _not_ reach all the way to the bottom, even though this message is >> so short? >> >> The decision whether or not to hit SPC to see the next page is based on >> the length of the scrollbar, at least for me. >> >> Why these days even >> $ emacs -q /etc/motd >> says to me there's a second page. RS> You already realized that you can reproduce your problem without Gnus. RS> So please bring it up on the relevant Emacs list, not on the Gnus RS> list. Thanks. >> Why can't emacs act like >> $ firefox /etc/motd >> and give no scrollbars, or, a "full length" scrollbar? >> >> (apropos (quote ("scroll-bar")) nil) is daunting, over my head. From unknown Tue Aug 19 14:22:47 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4425: bet this article's scrollbar doesn't reach the bottom Reply-To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 4425@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: jidanni@jidanni.org Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4425 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 4425-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4425.125287783511142 (code B ref 4425); Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:45:03 +0000 Received: (at 4425) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Sep 2009 21:37:15 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcaib.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.81]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8DLbEkv011138 for <4425@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:37:15 -0700 Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-6-61.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.6.61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7ED40F8B; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:37:13 -0700 (PDT) From: jidanni@jidanni.org To: ding@gnus.org Cc: 4425@debbugs.gnu.org References: <87d45u7s8j.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:37:08 +0800 Message-ID: <87hbv6bk6z.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii RS> please bring it up on the relevant Emacs list OK, reported http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=4425 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 02 14:00:36 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2010 19:00:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NR9DH-0004ne-UG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:00:36 -0500 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NR2zq-0008NR-Fy for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:22:19 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 02 Jan 2010 12:22:12 -0000 Received: from p54864353.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO turtle.gmx.de) [84.134.67.83] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 02 Jan 2010 13:22:12 +0100 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19JcD1346tJ1L0ZqoVV2IYka9Crtcbxu+/2H/i6t8 dkICu15kSCk/0f Received: by turtle.gmx.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63AB9354B6; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:16:37 +0100 (CET) From: Sven Joachim To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 5289@debbugs.gnu.org, ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: bug#5289: 23.1.90; gnus vs. scrollbar when message fills whole window References: <87skaplfx1.fsf@jidanni.org> <87y6kglpxo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Mail-Followup-To: jidanni@jidanni.org, 5289@debbugs.gnu.org, ding@gnus.org Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:16:37 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y6kglpxo.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (Reiner Steib's message of "Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:13:55 +0100") Message-ID: <87637kvh0a.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.6 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:00:33 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) merge 4425 5289 thanks On 2010-01-02 12:13 +0100, Reiner Steib wrote: > On Fri, Jan 01 2010, jidanni@jidanni.org wrote: > >> X-debbugs-cc: ding@gnus.org > > [ Didn't work, AFAICS? Adding it manually. ] > >> Here the whole message is in the lower window, but the scrollbar >> fools the user into thinking he can scroll more. >> >> Maybe the scrollbar is being computed on invisible header text. > > I think this is a bug or limitation in either Emacs or the toolkit > providing the scrollbars (GTK). I don't think anything can (should) > be done on the Gnus side. Indeed. BTW, the issue had been reported previously -- guess by whom? ;-) Cheers, Sven From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 18 18:13:09 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2011 23:13:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqZVd-0001np-Eg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:13:09 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqZVb-0001na-IX; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:13:07 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37782) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PqZVV-00015f-UJ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:13:02 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 8078@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#8078: scroll bar does not indicate entire article is visible References: <87pqqq6xig.fsf@jidanni.org> <87pqqp3sly.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Spook: MD2 Tony Blair afsatcom CNCIS Peking Capricorn CIDA X-Ran: ahj9f|'A}mD@b4u7NI.8bw(D3Frl;K0havtcEBtRw^^BL+O:(~BU?3]<]CG7RP72{ (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:56:44 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) forcemerge 8078 4425 stop Third report from same OP. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 26 16:56:01 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Feb 2011 21:56:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PtS7N-0006de-9v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:56:01 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PtS7L-0006dT-9j for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:55:59 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PtS7G-0000Ai-4x for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:55:54 -0500 Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:55:54 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: control message for bug 4425 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.1) From: Glenn Morris X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) forcemerge 1036 4425