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Subject: 27.1; Typo in Emacs Tutorial (German)
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Im Satz
Sie
können den gelöschten Text an einer beliebigen Stelle wieder
einzufügen.
sollte es heißen einfügen statt einzufügen.

In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30, cairo version 1.15.10)
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Contovounesios" To: Gerhard Butscher Subject: Re: bug#44123: Typo in Emacs Tutorial (German) References: Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 01:31:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Gerhard Butscher's message of "Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:42:53 +0200") Message-ID: <87k0vjcd9i.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44123 Cc: Werner LEMBERG , 44123@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Gerhard Butscher writes: > Im Satz > Sie > k=C3=B6nnen den gel=C3=B6schten Text an einer beliebigen Stelle wieder > einzuf=C3=BCgen. > sollte es hei=C3=9Fen einf=C3=BCgen statt einzuf=C3=BCgen. 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(Das Verb =C2=BBeinzuf=C3=BCgen=C2=AB kommt i= m Tutorial sechsmal vor.) --=20 Basil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 22 01:44:29 2020 Received: (at 44123) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2020 05:44:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51191 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kVTOn-0001q1-IS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 01:44:29 -0400 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:35343) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kVTOm-0001pp-Ow for 44123@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 01:44:29 -0400 Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2819616005C for <44123@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:44:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4CGxBY34tpz9rxY; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:44:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:44:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20201022.074415.1062086183132850017.wl@gnu.org> To: contovob@tcd.ie Subject: Re: bug#44123: Typo in Emacs Tutorial (German) From: Werner LEMBERG In-Reply-To: <87k0vjcd9i.fsf@tcd.ie> References: <87k0vjcd9i.fsf@tcd.ie> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 28.0.50 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; 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Wed, 21 Oct 2020 23:17:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" To: Werner LEMBERG Subject: Re: bug#44123: Typo in Emacs Tutorial (German) References: <87k0vjcd9i.fsf@tcd.ie> <20201022.074415.1062086183132850017.wl@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:17:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20201022.074415.1062086183132850017.wl@gnu.org> (Werner LEMBERG's message of "Thu, 22 Oct 2020 07:44:15 +0200 (CEST)") Message-ID: <87lffy23a7.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 44123-done Cc: 44123-done@debbugs.gnu.org, gerhard.butscher@gmx.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Werner LEMBERG writes: > [This bug is fixed now; please close it!] Done, thanks. >> Gerhard Butscher writes: >>=20 >>> Im Satz >>> >>> Sie k=C3=B6nnen den gel=C3=B6schten Text an einer beliebigen Stelle w= ieder >>> einzuf=C3=BCgen. >>> >>> sollte es hei=C3=9Fen einf=C3=BCgen statt einzuf=C3=BCgen. > > Korrigiert, danke. > >> Danke f=C3=BCr den Bericht. Ich bin sicher, dass ein Deutsch-Sprecher w= ie >> Werner das =C3=A4ndern wird. > > :-) Ich habe das Tutorial auch aktualisiert. > >> Aber ich lerne gerade Deutsch (noch ein Anf=C3=A4nger), und bin neugierig >> darauf, den Unterschied zwischen den zwei Verben zu verstehen. K=C3=B6n= nten >> Sie das bitte erkl=C3=A4ren? (Das Verb =C2=BBeinzuf=C3=BCgen=C2=AB komm= t im Tutorial >> sechsmal vor.) > > Das Wort =C2=BBk=C3=B6nnen=C2=AB ist ein Modalverb und verwendet daher ni= cht das Wort > =C2=BBzu=C2=AB: > > Sie k=C3=B6nnen das Wort einf=C3=BCgen. > > Falls das Wort =C2=BBzu=C2=AB doch gebraucht wird, muss es bei =C2=BBtren= nbaren > Verben=C2=AB eingeschoben werden: > > Ich entferne das Wort hier, um es woanders einzuf=C3=BCgen. > > Bei einfachen bzw. untrennbaren Verben wird es vorgestellt: > > Ich entferne das Wort hier, um es woanders zu verwenden. > > Leider ist es nicht sofort ersichtlich, welche W=C3=B6rter trennbar sind.= .. Vielen Dank f=C3=BCr die Erkl=C3=A4rung und Aktualisierung! --=20 Basil From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:47:09 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2020 12:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator