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27.1.50; Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS with Emacs 27

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From: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 27.1.50; Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS with Emacs 27
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 17:42:42 -0700

Something I've noticed in my heavily-configured Emacs that only began after
upgrading to Emacs 27: Fairly often (1-2 a minute) Emacs will entirely lock up
for 5-20 seconds. Usually C-g will break out of it, though not always.

Just now it happened for a long enough time that I was able to take a process
sample. I'm hoping that others more experienced in the C side of Emacs might
glean something from these thread stack traces. The fact that there are large
trees under "_BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInModeWithFilter" makes me
wonder.

And yes, it happened again while trying to write this e-mail.

Thanks!
  John


In GNU Emacs 27.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin19.6.0, NS appkit-1894.60 Version 10.15.6 (Build 19G2021))
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1894
System Description:  Mac OS X 10.15.6

Recent messages:
Undo
Auto-saving...done
Auto-saving...done
Auto-saving...done
Auto-saving...done
Auto-saving...done
Auto-saving...done
Mark set
kill-line: End of buffer
(No changes need to be saved)

Configured using:
 'configure --prefix=/nix/store/050q579cwk1cpdh7r77rwnv6dssxw44b-emacs-27.1.0
 --disable-build-details --with-modules --with-ns --disable-ns-self-contained
 'CFLAGS=-O3 -march=native -funroll-loops
 -DMAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED=101200''

Configured features:
RSVG GLIB NOTIFY KQUEUE ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS XIM NS
MODULES THREADS JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP

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Message #8 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#43971: 27.1.50; Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS
 with Emacs 27
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 03:35:55 +0200

"John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Just now it happened for a long enough time that I was able to take a process
> sample. I'm hoping that others more experienced in the C side of Emacs might
> glean something from these thread stack traces. 

Looks like you forgot to include the stack trace?

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Message #11 received at 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alan Third <alan <at> idiocy.org>
To: 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#43971: 27.1.50; Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS with
 Emacs 27
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 21:46:32 +0100

On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 05:42:42PM -0700, John Wiegley wrote:
> In GNU Emacs 27.1.50 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin19.6.0, NS appkit-1894.60 Version 10.15.6 (Build 19G2021))
> Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1894
> System Description:  Mac OS X 10.15.6
                                ^^^^^^^

> Configured using:
>  'configure --prefix=/nix/store/050q579cwk1cpdh7r77rwnv6dssxw44b-emacs-27.1.0
>  --disable-build-details --with-modules --with-ns --disable-ns-self-contained
>  'CFLAGS=-O3 -march=native -funroll-loops
>  -DMAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED=101200''
                                  ^^^^^^

Try increasing MAC_OS_X_VERSION_MAX_ALLOWED to match your actual OS
version (101500). Not that I have any great expectation of it fixing
anything.

-- 
Alan Third

Message #14 received at 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#43971: 27.1.50; Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS
 with Emacs 27
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:42:55 -0700

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>>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

LI> "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org> writes:
>> Just now it happened for a long enough time that I was able to take a
>> process sample. I'm hoping that others more experienced in the C side of
>> Emacs might glean something from these thread stack traces.

LI> Looks like you forgot to include the stack trace?

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John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2

Message #17 received at 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>
Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#43971: 27.1.50;
 Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS with Emacs 27
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:48:29 +0300

> From: "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:42:55 -0700
> Cc: 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> >>>>> "LI" == Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:
> 
> LI> "John Wiegley" <johnw <at> gnu.org> writes:
> >> Just now it happened for a long enough time that I was able to take a
> >> process sample. I'm hoping that others more experienced in the C side of
> >> Emacs might glean something from these thread stack traces.
> 
> LI> Looks like you forgot to include the stack trace?

Thanks, this looks like Emacs is waiting for some subprocess?

Message #20 received at 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: John Wiegley <johnw <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: larsi <at> gnus.org, 43971 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#43971: 27.1.50; Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS
 with Emacs 27
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 17:34:34 -0700

>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Thanks, this looks like Emacs is waiting for some subprocess?

I wonder which... I'll keep an eye on my Emacs' process group to see if
anything happens around the time the pauses. Thanks.

-- 
John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2

Message #25 received at 43971-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: John Wiegley <johnw <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 43971-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi <at> gnus.org
Subject: Re: bug#43971: 27.1.50; Periodic and frequent "pauses" on macOS
 with Emacs 27
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:44:37 -0700

>>>>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Thanks, this looks like Emacs is waiting for some subprocess?

I seem to have resolved it. It appears it was stock-quote.el.

-- 
John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2

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