From unknown Sat Aug 16 22:43:24 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#4394 <4394@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#4394 <4394@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.1; flashing when overlapping face and mouse-face properties Reply-To: bug#4394 <4394@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2025 05:43:24 +0000 retitle 4394 23.1; flashing when overlapping face and mouse-face properties reassign 4394 emacs submitter 4394 "Drew Adams" severity 4394 minor tag 4394 moreinfo thanks From drew.adams@oracle.com Thu Sep 10 16:38:37 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Sep 2009 23:38:39 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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The result sexp inserted is large, and it has a mouse-face property over it all. Double-click a left paren somewhere inside the sexp, to select a sublist. The display flashes spasmodically. Very annoying. And you can hardly see the region highlight at all. In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4)' From lekktu@gmail.com Thu Oct 22 02:35:31 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 22 Oct 2009 09:35:32 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL,MISSING_SUBJECT, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8,NOSUBJECT,VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com (mail-fx0-f213.google.com [209.85.220.213]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9M9ZTNW004084 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:35:31 -0700 Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so9696363fxm.1 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:35:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=8EmqKmTQZFxRHmBqMf0mAHPBq3MFliknc0lztWoJq6Y=; b=HxQYupT4FFltZz1ItMJj0h3XTFYNK5e7ryT0Cek2T3YESYQLNQM8G9V9i2CKiMAEbc EvYuLj8f7w1qApk14qvzihjcYCGQUOU+1DBevO5UhGKLQhzQ6+vBiuihHNGFYaXeeEYe kJYg0CmwEGM5xp9e/Qz4pt4br7Ml4TcpNJkWo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=Y5ybjjcxlLdLgAFAm7oQwPF4q6enZ/vhDgoBesbKLPsYfKZBy2gNxuVUArd1lZsA9C Mqc9bcUQhekOxrkhuBrM/oRLNjZDm8m0DPtCnEMhvvK6rKfs9H9j6QMJR6VObUwlfUeo 7VB35jQ8OYFrwvpcsbgPdQA8bmjmcb1XFRU14= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.145.8 with SMTP id q8mr761204hba.122.1256204124158; Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanma Barranquero Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:35:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 reassign 4326 emacs,ns merge 4261 4434 merge 1589 3359 4207 merge 3829 4077 tags 4781 + patch tags 4747 + patch tags 4579 + patch tags 4471 + patch tags 4434 + patch tags 4234 + patch tags 4221 + patch tags 4147 + patch tags 4144 + patch tags 4139 + patch tags 4023 + patch tags 4736 + moreinfo unreproducible tags 4547 + notabug tags 4451 + notabug tags 4448 + moreinfo tags 4427 + moreinfo tags 4373 + notabug tags 4360 + notabug tags 4271 + moreinfo tags 4236 + moreinfo tags 4143 + moreinfo unreproducible tags 4120 + moreinfo unreproducible tags 4070 + moreinfo unreproducible severity 4422 wishlist severity 4396 minor severity 4394 minor severity 4341 wishlist severity 4300 minor severity 4263 minor severity 4178 minor severity 4172 wishlist severity 4110 wishlist severity 4056 wishlist close 4772 close 4700 close 4599 close 4515 close 4463 close 4445 close 4395 close 4334 close 4289 close 4219 quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jul 12 18:48:37 2011 Received: (at 4394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2011 22:48:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qglkn-0000ad-G4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:48:37 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qglkg-0000aM-Up for 4394@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:48:31 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QglkT-0007Lg-3X; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:48:13 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: 23.1; flashing when overlapping face and mouse-face properties In-Reply-To: <3161BF3616744F8E89EB971AE0169BD0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:38:24 -0700") Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 00:48:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3161BF3616744F8E89EB971AE0169BD0@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Peter Gabriel's _B-Sides and More (1)_: "Shaking The Tree" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110712:drew.adams@oracle.com::SN2gouqA9K0HrRWu:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000KWQ+ X-Hashcash: 1:23:110712:4394@debbugs.gnu.org::RQhftUXvXI7+i8z5:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000OY8b MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1QglkT-0007Lg-3X X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311115693.19454@RwXEbanwe+w9BiqmWN2+Sw X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4394 Cc: 4394@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > In *scratch*, type this: > (accessible-keymaps (current-global-map)) > > Put point somewhere after the sexp and hit `C-u C-x C-e'. > > The result sexp inserted is large, and it has a mouse-face property > over it all. Double-click a left paren somewhere inside the sexp, to > select a sublist. > > The display flashes spasmodically. Very annoying. And you can hardly > see the region highlight at all. Yes, that's annoying. Perhaps `C-u C-x C-e' shouldn't put the mouse-face property on the entire list, but only on the bits it's interesting to actually click? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 18 15:07:10 2021 Received: (at 4394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 19:07:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57306 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C86-00082b-4B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:07:10 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37038) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C83-00082M-Hg for 4394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:07:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=t5WruCoM7zqa+rOlkvj8WqX/z9tAmXLKbpzR/vqQh+g=; b=nOWcLczZYDct7OK4ilghzO9ZKT UVAbJYYyXgvk3ApkYRv5AINT4OWKnhFcwHLtlgcOntAvdDkVCf8+IbnhvXad0TFhDCMN8SL8FYdX9 l8xZt29IbvXPL/j89GW0ZtxGUAuq+2vLIDXzeCuiCHFzr35PujRhqZ0O+rTfLzbrAQHU=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C7t-0003Ki-Pc; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:07:00 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#4394: 23.1; flashing when overlapping face and mouse-face properties References: <3161BF3616744F8E89EB971AE0169BD0@us.oracle.com> X-Now-Playing: David Bowie's _The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars_: "Lady Stardust" Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:06:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3161BF3616744F8E89EB971AE0169BD0@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:38:24 -0700") Message-ID: <878s23o2zy.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: "Drew Adams" writes: > In *scratch*, type this: > (accessible-keymaps (current-global-map)) > > Put point somewhere after the sexp and hit `C-u C-x C-e'. > > The result sexp inserted is large, and it has a mouse-face prop [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4394 Cc: Stefan Monnier , 4394@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain "Drew Adams" writes: > In *scratch*, type this: > (accessible-keymaps (current-global-map)) > > Put point somewhere after the sexp and hit `C-u C-x C-e'. > > The result sexp inserted is large, and it has a mouse-face property > over it all. Double-click a left paren somewhere inside the sexp, to > select a sublist. > > The display flashes spasmodically. Very annoying. And you can hardly > see the region highlight at all. A more manageable example is: (number-sequence 1 20) => (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 ...) 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(This is done in `last-sexp-setup-props'.) However, when the sexp is large, the mouse face is indeed very annoying. Would it make sense to shorten it somehow? For instance, only display it over the "..." to indicate that it's the abbreviation that the mouse face is trying to draw attention to? Or... something else? Like... er... adding underlines or something to the dots and not using a mouse face at all? Or underlines and a mouse face, but just for the dots... Anybody got an opinion? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 18 15:07:13 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 19:07:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57309 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C89-00082p-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:07:13 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C87-00082S-5e for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:07:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=OTq/y17sG7AauaQZUV6l79DIySKenoiTCjww5Gyf3D8=; b=dWIdtebAxiPF/wksNNo7uRXs2V 8WLL0gQAcQvdlOsB28lktVMN1Rv0421EPRHF4047LjcMiQbgiAR4AkKl2DmSy5rZZqX1ZXHp2c/uN SGaleZxK2agmqjaGnM7vxuwP/OTiUhlj0mRVwuukAmaPAKElK6WcGxQDNXKggemarW84=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m5C7z-0003Ks-KE for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:07:05 +0200 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:07:03 +0200 Message-Id: <877dhno2zs.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #4394 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 4394 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 4394 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 18 15:11:42 2021 Received: (at 4394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 19:11:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CCU-0008AR-FE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:11:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CCS-0008AB-VF for 4394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:11:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CCN-00052K-M0; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:11:35 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1963 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CCN-0005CS-9q; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:11:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:11:29 +0300 Message-Id: <83fswb77z2.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: <878s23o2zy.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:06:57 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#4394: 23.1; flashing when overlapping face and mouse-face properties References: <3161BF3616744F8E89EB971AE0169BD0@us.oracle.com> <878s23o2zy.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4394 Cc: 4394@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:06:57 +0200 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , 4394@debbugs.gnu.org > > The point of the mouse face is to tell the user that they can mouse-2 on > the region to expand the abbreviated bits. (This is done in > `last-sexp-setup-props'.) > > However, when the sexp is large, the mouse face is indeed very annoying. > Would it make sense to shorten it somehow? For instance, only display > it over the "..." to indicate that it's the abbreviation that the mouse > face is trying to draw attention to? Or... something else? > > Like... er... adding underlines or something to the dots and not using > a mouse face at all? Or underlines and a mouse face, but just for the > dots... > > Anybody got an opinion? My opinion is that we should leave this alone. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 18 15:29:48 2021 Received: (at 4394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2021 19:29:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57410 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CU0-0002Q0-H8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:29:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58902) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CTz-0002Po-Oo for 4394@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:29:48 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49872) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CTt-0000XC-1P; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:29:41 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3058 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m5CTp-0005ay-SV; Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:29:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:29:28 +0300 Message-Id: <83eebv7753.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: larsi@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <83fswb77z2.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:11:29 +0300) Subject: Re: bug#4394: 23.1; flashing when overlapping face and mouse-face properties References: <3161BF3616744F8E89EB971AE0169BD0@us.oracle.com> <878s23o2zy.fsf@gnus.org> <83fswb77z2.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4394 Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 4394@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:11:29 +0300 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 4394@debbugs.gnu.org > > > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > > Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2021 21:06:57 +0200 > > Cc: Stefan Monnier , 4394@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > The point of the mouse face is to tell the user that they can mouse-2 on > > the region to expand the abbreviated bits. (This is done in > > `last-sexp-setup-props'.) > > > > However, when the sexp is large, the mouse face is indeed very annoying. > > Would it make sense to shorten it somehow? For instance, only display > > it over the "..." to indicate that it's the abbreviation that the mouse > > face is trying to draw attention to? Or... something else? > > > > Like... er... adding underlines or something to the dots and not using > > a mouse face at all? Or underlines and a mouse face, but just for the > > dots... > > > > Anybody got an opinion? > > My opinion is that we should leave this alone. Btw, here the highlight stops at the right parentheses, it doesn't go to the right edge of the window. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 16 08:13:55 2021 Received: (at 4394) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2021 12:13:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbV5-00034y-4B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:13:55 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42980) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbV3-00034a-3y for 4394@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:13:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iai+cfpl/yo+qz8wIAMOuKBPQJjP9XiDfnMal3311c8=; b=ZXzEaKqnqdkt64A9f4kZ4Ou7HC kAKyyytfIFmr6twmsQZeDDpTqn0bGr5LFqHDM/3Vmm9ZqNUYbhu1wlpLPEPNBSqzkFjBVSM19LyWf GiR9mSPDQp5hT612MIwwu/WMLVcHIPayigq6xK4D6zrBnQinv+l6UaHzHOl6/YfWb5k4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbUp-0004ag-ID; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:13:43 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#4394: 23.1; flashing when overlapping face and mouse-face properties References: <3161BF3616744F8E89EB971AE0169BD0@us.oracle.com> <878s23o2zy.fsf@gnus.org> <83fswb77z2.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:13:39 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83fswb77z2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 18 Jul 2021 22:11:29 +0300") Message-ID: <87fsv9egek.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Anybody got an opinion? > > My opinion is that we should leave this alone. OK; closing this bug report, then. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4394 Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 4394@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Anybody got an opinion? > > My opinion is that we should leave this alone. OK; closing this bug report, then. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 16 08:13:55 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Aug 2021 12:13:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48781 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbV5-000350-Ai for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:13:55 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42984) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbV3-00034c-T0 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:13:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=dXu4E+rFSJkDfHBwEJRpSJ6UWrRJhWkH4aidKAf65bE=; b=OoDToOZtXzanpWQ0AMz7kp+5W6 /29leHDIfI0mKRuNF0H1LyxVx0emsjyiV8UdO/B50II8puD6JM8dFzssnhqSwA4rT0RTOo0gfzoQx fNhqIEG7YwqVTY74dXvtXBgrKT1u+HgFK7HxlVKyiIk1wpZLwwyzR0acPmmR0k+g1nD0=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mFbUw-0004ak-6B for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:13:48 +0200 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 14:13:45 +0200 Message-Id: <87eeategee.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #4394 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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