From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:19:07 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#43853 <43853@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#43853 <43853@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: message-insert-signature should lead to full docs Reply-To: bug#43853 <43853@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:19:07 +0000 retitle 43853 message-insert-signature should lead to full docs reassign 43853 emacs submitter 43853 =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson severity 43853 normal tag 43853 fixed thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 07 16:44:40 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2020 20:44:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQGIi-0003cE-0Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:44:40 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:58286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQGIc-0003c2-HH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:44:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQGIc-0007aQ-3E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:44:34 -0400 Received: from cadetblue.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.28]:22299) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQGIZ-0001eo-OV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Oct 2020 16:44:33 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F8A321971 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 20:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (100-98-118-43.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.98.118.43]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DF7E0321B59 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 20:44:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.10); Wed, 07 Oct 2020 20:44:26 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Tank-Tank: 16a939f743e151f6_1602103466129_2028929173 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1602103466129:575404966 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1602103466129 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1BF7EEC8 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:44:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=jidanni.org; bh=Tzn//gaKDK74AXb2rD w+dF/RQFc=; b=GFfeqlluJtwFeET1OT8a3GQn3/znh8eXRKia0Wy+ldwZW2V63R +sQFEF8o2Ddti4Znu4GDeOV1eRQ/zOiC7Y9JIMAklx6YL9RYhOwPfAFSnaOXL9Un 8vyWcwLFA43IxKUsPSBvmf5NIH9aOU2stG1oaCOe7hlkTMQ7cn3xboAXM= Received: from jidanni.org (220-140-2-79.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [220.140.2.79]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 242207EE96 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a20 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: message-insert-signature should lead to full docs Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 04:44:21 +0800 Message-ID: <87v9flbwbe.8.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=23.83.209.28; envelope-from=jidanni@jidanni.org; helo=cadetblue.birch.relay.mailchannels.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/07 16:44:26 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) !C-c C-w runs the command message-insert-signature (found in !message-mode-map), which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in !=E2=80=98message.el=E2=80=99. ! !It is bound to C-c C-w, . ! !(message-insert-signature &optional FORCE) ! !Insert a signature. See documentation for variable =E2=80=98message-sig= nature=E2=80=99. OK !message-signature is a variable defined in =E2=80=98message.el=E2=80=99. !Its value is nil !Original value was t ! ! This variable may be risky if used as a file-local variable. ! !Documentation: !String to be inserted at the end of the message buffer. !If t, the =E2=80=98message-signature-file=E2=80=99 file will be inserted= instead. !If a function, the result from the function will be used instead. !If a form, the result from the form will be used instead. ! !You can customize this variable. ! !This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in !version 23.2 of Emacs. OK but all that never gets around to mentioning e.g., (defcustom message-signature-insert-empty-line t "If non-nil, insert an empty line before the signature separator." etc. So the C-c C-w user never finds out how to get rid of that newline without looking at the source code, (or (info "(message) Insertion Variables".)) emacs-version "26.3" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 09 00:49:25 2020 Received: (at 43853) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2020 04:49:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33894 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQkLM-0007qt-OR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 00:49:24 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kQkLL-0007qc-AJ for 43853@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 00:49:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UUYNHGHpwjGYld+byqNsqE5095mT9umpZjhRngC+TSk=; b=Yvw+C0ipsSk7TDHUK/JXaRwydr aMy0L014OxK3luwSC+NCqJAnMI8eM0x1/P3JHCnTV80rpRNp3l37NQG2FftLUOh4LtTA6N1ACfsEx uP5beVUYoyYhIKFcelC7lRrrQ6Nl9xtx/EdEOMj9GQyiz3BDDhAft2dp69HEoOjbSN3c=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQkLC-00085M-Ce; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 06:49:16 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#43853: message-insert-signature should lead to full docs References: <87v9flbwbe.8.fsf@jidanni.org> X-Now-Playing: Alva Noto and Ryuichi Sakamoto's _Vrioon_: "Duoon" Date: Fri, 09 Oct 2020 06:49:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v9flbwbe.8.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Thu, 08 Oct 2020 04:44:21 +0800") Message-ID: <87zh4w3sxi.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > but all that never gets around to mentioning e.g., > > (defcustom message-signature-insert-empty-line t > "If non-nil, insert an empty line before the signature separator." 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