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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <41507cf2da54bed0b286b22d03e3dbc209ab800e.camel@amitrao17.onmicrosoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43657 Cc: 43657@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 9/27/20 1:00 PM, Amit Rao wrote: > rm /path/* > > does not delete files if there are a lot (say 2000) of them in a single > directory What does the command do instead? There is a limit as to how many arguments you can pass to 'rm'. If that's what you ran into, it's a problem with your kernel or your shell, not with 'rm'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 28 04:02:04 2020 Received: (at 43657) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2020 08:02:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51332 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMo6m-0003gU-G3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 04:02:04 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:50366) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kMo6k-0003fy-SC for 43657@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 04:02:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E9C1600C2; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 01:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id BlKvDVKsVBpP; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 01:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943151600DA; Mon, 28 Sep 2020 01:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id TgfcJFcuLmH9; 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43657 Cc: 43657@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 9/27/20 8:58 PM, Amit Rao wrote: > There's a limit? My first attempt didn't use a wildcard; i attempted to delete a directory. 'rm dir' fails because 'rm' by default leaves directories alone. > My second attempt was rm -rf dir/* If "dir" has too many files that will fail due to shell limitations that have nothing to do with Coreutils. Use 'rm -rf dir' instead. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 16 00:18:20 2020 Received: (at 43657) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2020 04:18:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57186 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kTHC7-0000th-P7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 00:18:20 -0400 Received: from havoc.proulx.com ([96.88.95.61]:58150) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kTHC6-0000tN-3j; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 00:18:18 -0400 Received: from joseki.proulx.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by havoc.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C694D6E7; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:18:12 -0600 (MDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proulx.com; s=dkim2048; t=1602821892; bh=hVOEelZEeYDHp5Mst11RmJdLIPyWKUDhHDp3QXWYDC8=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=pjtL7dXDZu/iebYZla5XwbbwkzcBMNGhXAZXuSGXbtP/Y+K7omQPKB3MrlCldFmyj 7W2s7CoJUZHRwAaj/GdI2mPZgepg4a2lrVpYsCPwG/ae1oDW0dV5vkRebQ3s2eoHuG ShvVhomi5Pz421yZItiHOBAQX9bPjaoM5HVqB21tssoskKYl1sq+ordCH/nVSiP/vi D5OOluiaV1Ohm7AxFmx5YX9sGx9hR64zR1Q3Elb6C/rij44/7bYnRWkw6B3nMXi7jP 0aS4Dkl19UUEJ9j0lNIsjoFGh8jwf5K+7OENRKbfrC65XLzrlcQFUXh9rVMXwPY6D5 cQgd0VRuMTfUQ== Received: from hysteria.proulx.com (hysteria.proulx.com [192.168.230.119]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9766621144; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by hysteria.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8D4C52DC9D; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:18:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 22:18:12 -0600 From: Bob Proulx To: Amit Rao , 43657@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#43657: rm does not delete files Message-ID: <20201015221027928160961@bob.proulx.com> References: <41507cf2da54bed0b286b22d03e3dbc209ab800e.camel@amitrao17.onmicrosoft.com> <7a6668be-0c66-29a6-637d-1f88db6014fc@cs.ucla.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7a6668be-0c66-29a6-637d-1f88db6014fc@cs.ucla.edu> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43657 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 43657 thanks Paul Eggert wrote: > On 9/27/20 8:58 PM, Amit Rao wrote: > > There's a limit? My first attempt didn't use a wildcard; i attempted to delete a directory. > > 'rm dir' fails because 'rm' by default leaves directories alone. > > > My second attempt was rm -rf dir/* > > If "dir" has too many files that will fail due to shell limitations that > have nothing to do with Coreutils. Use 'rm -rf dir' instead. The only reason I can guess that rm -rf dir/* might fail would be argument list too long. Which has an FAQ entry. I feel confident this was the problem you experienced. https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#Argument-list-too-long In any case in order to establish the background it is necessary to post command that you used exactly and then also the error message that resulted. Without that information exactly it is not possible to establish the root cause of the behavior, if it is a bug, or if it is kernel behavior. Also if rm were to fail then extremely useful would be strace information so that we could see the exact reason for the failure. If this is the ARG_MAX limitation then it does not need rm to reproduce the issue. One can use any command. Using echo should be safe enough. echo dir/* >/dev/null In any case the suggested strategy of using "rm -rf dir" is very good and very simple here. It avoids that problem entirely. Because I feel very confident that the issue is the kernel limitation of ARG_MAX I am going to close this ticket. However if you have further information please reply and add it to the ticket. It can always be opened again if further information points to a bug to be tracked. Bob From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:27:22 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 12:24:11 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator