From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:20:47 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4356: 23.1.50; expand-abbrev changes point erroneously Reply-To: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= , 4356@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:35:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 4356 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125223291816689 (code B ref -1); Sun, 06 Sep 2009 10:35:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Sep 2009 10:28:38 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Here is the bug description. I found this editing some Visual Basic file with using http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/visual-basic-mode.el If for instance I type after (--!-- showing point when I type ): MyVar =3D MyFun(1,True)--!-- Then in visual basic mode visual-basic-newline-and-indent is called, which in turn calls (expand-abbrev). After (expand-abbrev) is called, point will be moved as follows:=20 MyVar =3D MyFun(1,True--!--)=20 because `True' is one abbreviation. I have patched visual-basic mode, so that a save-excursion encloses the call of expand-abbrev, otherwise I would get: MyVar =3D MyFun(1,True --!--)=20 which is not wanted. Stefan Monnier (monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA) confirmed this is a bug of expand-abbrev, and asked me to repport it. The wanted behaviour would be that after expanding `True', point would come back to after the `)' where it originally was. BR, Vincent. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file d:/Programme/GNU/Emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.0.2195) of 2009-07-25 on COCOTTE Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.0.2195 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: FRA value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: recentf-mode: t mail-abbrevs-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x 1 C-SPC =20 C-x b * s c ( r e q u i r e SPC '=20 c a l c - e x t ) ( l a t SPC ( =20 e t SPC ( c a l=20 c - c o m m a n d ) C-h f C-g C-h=20 v c a l c - c o =20 =20 C-g (=20 c a l c - r a d i x SPC 1 7 ) =20 ( c a l c - e v a l SPC 1 0 =E0 ) =20 ) " " SPC $ =20 ) M-x e v a l - b u f C-x C-e =20 C-h f C-h i m d =20 c a l C-x 1 =20 C-s=20 c a l c e v m e=20 v a l C-x b =20 =20 C-x C-e =20 C-y C-k C-k =20 C-k C-k C-k C-k =20 ( m e s s a g z e SPC =20 e SPC " 1 0 SPC e n SPC b a s e SPC 7 =3D=20 % s " SPC ) M-x =20 C-SPC M-x r e p o r=20 b e m Recent messages: Composing main Info directory...done Mark set Mark saved where search started Mark set [2 times] Number radix is 7 "7#13" Mark set 10 en base 7=3D7#13 Mark set Making completion list... Load-path shadows: d:/Programme/GNU/emacs-extension/cedet/speedbar/speedbar hides d:/Programme= /GNU/Emacs/lisp/speedbar d:/Programme/GNU/emacs-extension/cedet/speedbar/sb-image hides d:/Programme= /GNU/Emacs/lisp/sb-image d:/Programme/GNU/emacs-extension/cedet/common/ezimage hides d:/Programme/GN= U/Emacs/lisp/ezimage d:/Programme/GNU/emacs-extension/cedet/speedbar/dframe hides d:/Programme/G= NU/Emacs/lisp/dframe c:/Documents and Settings/Vincent/Application Data/.emacs.d/etc/custom hide= s d:/Programme/GNU/Emacs/lisp/custom From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:20:47 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4356: 23.1.50; expand-abbrev changes point erroneously Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 4356@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:55:07 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4356 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 4356-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B4356.125306916917519 (code B ref 4356); Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:55:07 +0000 Received: (at 4356) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Sep 2009 02:46:09 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n8G2k6Dp017501 for <4356@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:46:08 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAM7tr0pFpZBe/2dsb2JhbACBU91JhBcFh3o X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,394,1249272000"; d="scan'208";a="45748721" Received: from 69-165-144-94.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.144.94]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2009 22:46:01 -0400 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id EC50DB449F; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:46:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Cc: 4356@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87ljksuzzx.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:46:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87ljksuzzx.fsf@gmail.com> ("Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche"'s?= message of "Sun, 06 Sep 2009 12:30:26 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Here is the bug description. I found this editing some Visual Basic file > with using http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/visual-basic-mode.el > If for instance I type after (--!-- showing point when I type ): > MyVar = MyFun(1,True)--!-- > Then in visual basic mode visual-basic-newline-and-indent is called, > which in turn calls (expand-abbrev). After (expand-abbrev) is called, > point will be moved as follows: > MyVar = MyFun(1,True--!--) > because `True' is one abbreviation. I have patched visual-basic mode, so > that a save-excursion encloses the call of expand-abbrev, otherwise I > would get: > MyVar = MyFun(1,True > --!--) > which is not wanted. Stefan Monnier (monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA) confirmed > this is a bug of expand-abbrev, and asked me to repport it. > The wanted behaviour would be that after expanding `True', point would > come back to after the `)' where it originally was. Having looked into it some more, I'm not 100% convinced it's a bug any more. Here's why: `expand-abbrev' may run arbitrary code, and some abbrevs don't just replace text with something else but also prompt and/or move point (e.g. skeletons). So running expand-abbrev from visual-basic-newline-and-indent just doesn't sound right since it may conflict with user-defined abbreviations. I.e. the problem you're seeing can also happen in Emacs-22 depending on the user's own abbreviations. So the VBM code either needs a save-excursion, or needs to refrain from calling expand-abbrev from visual-basic-newline-and-indent. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 05 23:53:08 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2011 03:53:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBf19-0004a5-Ks for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:53:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBf13-0004Zd-NU; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:53:02 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBf0w-0008IS-Mg; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:52:54 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 4356-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#4356: 23.1.50; expand-abbrev changes point erroneously References: <87ljksuzzx.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: AUTODIN military pre-emptive halcon Arnett e-cash Janet X-Ran: Q~ma}.BF}e"W@f?N&l(A-*PZGzf!LqI[nAv|2SV1OF^>/uP&y7*u:|Ym:?[$lCK]o7)6X4 X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:52:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:46:00 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) tags 4356 wontfix stop Closing based on this: > Having looked into it some more, I'm not 100% convinced it's a bug > any more. Here's why: > > `expand-abbrev' may run arbitrary code, and some abbrevs don't just > replace text with something else but also prompt and/or move point > (e.g. skeletons). So running expand-abbrev from > visual-basic-newline-and-indent just doesn't sound right since it may > conflict with user-defined abbreviations. > > I.e. the problem you're seeing can also happen in Emacs-22 depending on > the user's own abbreviations. So the VBM code either needs > a save-excursion, or needs to refrain from calling expand-abbrev from > visual-basic-newline-and-indent. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:20:47 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= Subject: bug#4356: closed (Re: bug#4356: 23.1.50; expand-abbrev changes point erroneously) Message-ID: References: <87ljksuzzx.fsf@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 4356 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs X-Gnu-PR-Keywords: wontfix Reply-To: 4356@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 03:54:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1317873242-17711-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1317873242-17711-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #4356: 23.1.50; expand-abbrev changes point erroneously which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 4356@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 4356: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D4356 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1317873242-17711-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 4356-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Oct 2011 03:53:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBf16-0004Zy-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:53:07 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBf13-0004Zd-NU; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:53:02 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RBf0w-0008IS-Mg; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:52:54 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: 4356-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#4356: 23.1.50; expand-abbrev changes point erroneously References: <87ljksuzzx.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spook: AUTODIN military pre-emptive halcon Arnett e-cash Janet X-Ran: Q~ma}.BF}e"W@f?N&l(A-*PZGzf!LqI[nAv|2SV1OF^>/uP&y7*u:|Ym:?[$lCK]o7)6X4 X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:52:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:46:00 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4356-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) tags 4356 wontfix stop Closing based on this: > Having looked into it some more, I'm not 100% convinced it's a bug > any more. Here's why: > > `expand-abbrev' may run arbitrary code, and some abbrevs don't just > replace text with something else but also prompt and/or move point > (e.g. skeletons). So running expand-abbrev from > visual-basic-newline-and-indent just doesn't sound right since it may > conflict with user-defined abbreviations. > > I.e. the problem you're seeing can also happen in Emacs-22 depending on > the user's own abbreviations. So the VBM code either needs > a save-excursion, or needs to refrain from calling expand-abbrev from > visual-basic-newline-and-indent. ------------=_1317873242-17711-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Sep 2009 10:28:38 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Here is the bug description. I found this editing some Visual Basic file with using http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/visual-basic-mode.el If for instance I type after (--!-- showing point when I type ): MyVar =3D MyFun(1,True)--!-- Then in visual basic mode visual-basic-newline-and-indent is called, which in turn calls (expand-abbrev). After (expand-abbrev) is called, point will be moved as follows:=20 MyVar =3D MyFun(1,True--!--)=20 because `True' is one abbreviation. I have patched visual-basic mode, so that a save-excursion encloses the call of expand-abbrev, otherwise I would get: MyVar =3D MyFun(1,True --!--)=20 which is not wanted. Stefan Monnier (monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA) confirmed this is a bug of expand-abbrev, and asked me to repport it. The wanted behaviour would be that after expanding `True', point would come back to after the `)' where it originally was. BR, Vincent. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file d:/Programme/GNU/Emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions. In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.0.2195) of 2009-07-25 on COCOTTE Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.0.2195 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: FRA value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: recentf-mode: t mail-abbrevs-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-x 1 C-SPC =20 C-x b * s c ( r e q u i r e SPC '=20 c a l c - e x t ) ( l a t SPC ( =20 e t SPC ( c a l=20 c - c o m m a n d ) C-h f C-g C-h=20 v c a l c - c o =20 =20 C-g (=20 c a l c - r a d i x SPC 1 7 ) =20 ( c a l c - e v a l SPC 1 0 =E0 ) =20 ) " " SPC $ =20 ) M-x e v a l - b u f C-x C-e =20 C-h f C-h i m d =20 c a l C-x 1 =20 C-s=20 c a l c e v m e=20 v a l C-x b =20 =20 C-x C-e =20 C-y C-k C-k =20 C-k C-k C-k C-k =20 ( m e s s a g z e SPC =20 e SPC " 1 0 SPC e n SPC b a s e SPC 7 =3D=20 % s " SPC ) M-x =20 C-SPC M-x r e p o r=20 b e m Recent messages: Composing main Info directory...done Mark set Mark saved where search started Mark set [2 times] Number radix is 7 "7#13" Mark set 10 en base 7=3D7#13 Mark set Making completion list... 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