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Should the project decide to approve this and choose which to alias, I could do the coding... =2D---- Forwarded message from Boruch Baum ----- Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 13:51:47 -0400 From: Boruch Baum To: Emacs-Devel List Subject: name-space consistency User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 Slightly apropos the current thread opening discussion of things that could be done for emacs v28... Here's an example of an annoying and persistently vexing name-space inconsistency: to highlight based upon a regexp in a buffer, one uses functions from package hi-lock (that a lower-case 'i', not an 'ell') and to highlight the current line within a buffer one uses functions from package hl-line (that's an 'ell', not a lower-case 'i'). Unless you use both often (or have a memory superior to mine), you're bound to mis-type hl-lock or hi-line. Would the project consider aliasing and deprecating one of those name-spaces? Or breaking backward-compatibility and just refactoring one? =2D---- End forwarded message ----- On 2020-09-06 21:04, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 13:51:47 -0400 > > From: Boruch Baum > > > > Unless you use both often (or have a memory superior to mine), you're > > bound to mis-type hl-lock or hi-line. > > > > Would the project consider aliasing and deprecating one of those > > name-spaces? Or breaking backward-compatibility and just refactoring > > one? > > The latter is out of the question. The former can be done if there's > enough support for it (but expect some dispute regarding which > variant to prefer ;-). =2D---- End forwarded message ----- On 2020-09-06 14:50, Boruch Baum wrote: > At this point, the 'measured' support on the list is 100%. If you accept > and wait for the mail-in ballots, the final results could take months... > =2D---- End forwarded message ----- =2D- hkp://keys.gnupg.net CA45 09B5 5351 7C11 A9D1 7286 0036 9E45 1595 8BC0 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 16 03:05:22 2020 Received: (at 43294) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Oct 2020 07:05:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kTJnm-0007dW-1Y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 03:05:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51926) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kTJnk-0007dC-GC for 43294@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 03:05:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=JZYqAi+YTVWCG09ogNGmxgUTa0Pl935CnOy1iM631bQ=; b=R0QxWi96b+ZP8riarGIOB9kaXr s8ZakNyStetZJlNyjokFA5qIF44AVA/WpMT6LReARGvV+qyWJC5/6D1iSAdZDj3vuTZONCD8vazmo +iR7ZTimkxtsKlCPbH+q2V+jUhYyxKYi9nylcNNOCLnDXhtUozculxOCunISf5Z+O8kk=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kTJnc-0008Fv-BM; Fri, 16 Oct 2020 09:05:14 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Boruch Baum Subject: Re: bug#43294: 28: Combine name-spaces hi-lock and hl-line References: <20200909173844.7r4vfp4taopfacmb@E15-2016.optimum.net> X-Now-Playing: The Human League's _Secrets_: "You'll Be Sorry" Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 09:05:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20200909173844.7r4vfp4taopfacmb@E15-2016.optimum.net> (Boruch Baum's message of "Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:38:44 -0400") Message-ID: <87o8l2odll.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Boruch Baum writes: > Here a duplicate posting of several messages from the emacs-devel list so the > request doesn't get lost thereq. Should the project > decide to approve this and choose which to alias, I could do the [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43294 Cc: 43294@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Boruch Baum writes: > Here a duplicate posting of several messages from the emacs-devel list so the > request doesn't get lost thereq. Should the project > decide to approve this and choose which to alias, I could do the > coding... [...] >> The latter is out of the question. The former can be done if there's >> enough support for it (but expect some dispute regarding which >> variant to prefer ;-). There didn't seem to be much enthusiasm for this, and it seems to me it'd be a lot of code churn for little gain. 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