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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode is disabled. Steps: 1. emacs -Q 2. M-x transient-mark-mode RET 3. C-x SPC Expected: Region is activated temporarily. Actual: Region is not activated. Note that rectagle-mark-mode is still partially enabled. For example, C-x C-x moves point according to the rectangular region, but you cannot move point beyond the end of the line. I propose making rectangle-mark-mode activate the region even if transient-mark-mode is disabled for a number of reasons. I think it's a reasonable interpretation of the docstring: Activates the region if needed. Only lasts until the region is deactivated. rectangle-mark-mode is transient like having an active region and unlike having a mark. That is to say, someone who uses the mark with transient-mark-mode off may not want to operate on the region and thus not want to activate the region (e.g., when using the mark to jump to later), but there is no use case for rectangle-mark-mode that does not involve operating on the region. Also since rectangle-mark-mode is transient, it makes sense to couple it with region activation as the active region is also transient with the same lifespan. In GNU Emacs 27.1 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.22) of 2020-08-13 built on juergen Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12008000 System Description: Arch Linux From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 10:28:27 2020 Received: (at 43209) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 14:28:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43751 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZB5-00076H-6k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:28:27 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:47130) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZB2-000762-VU for 43209@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:28:25 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 085EPahW186711; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 14:28:19 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=/cJkSvK5coS4rSPsoxGnjyXW5T2zKdm/cms1/2mRrNw=; b=c1WBfgd2s3hgiZHMHxrusRFnL68QJOL2kABCH6kuJX0pBXgaXmEQDWAJPbQr73z+GJmx hSrOa0jKWFUap/Ho8HeNx/+V6jX9uZDl42g/UKRSPX8Agp0UsxOyqOBVj+URy6X6FQ1+ b9vVMLlEBD19tZopwPLI878KE0PNo73+t1DnK/8c5KMaVI/YzXe38zyWz9J0nDaq+N3R 8KbtNTb7a7aNW+LOHfmZbm0+as/dTQ9Vk5u7OJCELxntrIIJbCkM735qkt5m73lx4aYY khfdTV/HegMWVPnxPYbKZGm8K1HDHgqd/+mQV+7f4Z064tfUBL11pSkKyECtwevX/SvF tA== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 33c23qhbpv-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:28:19 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 085EPq34171256; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 14:28:18 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 33c0q93fs4-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:28:18 +0000 Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 085ESAH2008461; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 14:28:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Allen Li , 43209@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#43209: 27.1; rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode disabled References: <80363w3owp.fsf@felesatra.moe> In-Reply-To: <80363w3owp.fsf@felesatra.moe> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5044.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9734 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=999 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009050140 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9734 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1011 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009050140 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43209 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode is > disabled. >=20 > Steps: >=20 > 1. emacs -Q > 2. M-x transient-mark-mode RET > 3. C-x SPC >=20 > Expected: >=20 > Region is activated temporarily. >=20 > Actual: >=20 > Region is not activated. Note that rectagle-mark-mode is still > partially enabled. For example, C-x C-x moves point according to the > rectangular region, but you cannot move point beyond the end of the > line. >=20 > I propose making rectangle-mark-mode activate the region even if > transient-mark-mode is disabled for a number of reasons. >=20 > I think it's a reasonable interpretation of the docstring: >=20 > Activates the region if needed. Only lasts until the region is > deactivated. >=20 > rectangle-mark-mode is transient like having an active region and unlike > having a mark. That is to say, someone who uses the mark with > transient-mark-mode off may not want to operate on the region and thus > not want to activate the region (e.g., when using the mark to jump to > later), but there is no use case for rectangle-mark-mode that does not > involve operating on the region. >=20 > Also since rectangle-mark-mode is transient, it makes sense to couple it > with region activation as the active region is also transient with the > same lifespan. I agree that `rectangle-mark-mode' requires `transient-mark-mode' to be on. But only as long as `rectangle-mark-mode' is on, i.e., only as long as the region is active. After that, the previous state of `transient-mark-mode' (on or off) should be restored. "Active region" has no meaning outside of `transient-mark-mode'. Anything, including `rectangle-mark-mode', that requires the notion (and behavior - e.g. highlighting) of the "active region" needs `transient-mark-mode' to be on (for the duration of that need). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 18:25:40 2020 Received: (at 43209) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 22:25:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44316 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEgcu-0008Er-NT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 18:25:40 -0400 Received: from mail-pj1-f49.google.com ([209.85.216.49]:56085) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEgct-0008Ee-91 for 43209@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 18:25:39 -0400 Received: by mail-pj1-f49.google.com with SMTP id 2so4824700pjx.5 for <43209@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:25:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=felesatra-moe.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=WbVd+wiMwtbzW2//B0oAldgubp32lq8WOk+VfUOSoH0=; b=Nwmf389f4L/est7DaG/IwTJxOiuvXlbcd4mVKN7/e7AIZAGqb9IKl0lw3Uf5qhLv9x Z8f3Y/tzV3KPUclGzoJ+DSiS5f/7M6tKd3i5W6PvQwpVrKlvwHp4PhDN2a1MP+EQVhDP CEe2L6oi7a5m9oS5HZcbH7xjxB7w0G2s+xxzlwCIUXFXQswU0rnQy5X6+Em4uuGYpQe+ oOkcPxZe2aCGhGMaJcpkR/M9fZSdt4h5Mr1pz25JRQ9NCPf6K6WAd+N3eI4QY4ANs/Z+ yqhs173GrQWM58PgFFKbfQGlbW9sVJdP3P1kK/ibprJjtkDifqJD0MWHAj2kRVGKkOK/ dvfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=WbVd+wiMwtbzW2//B0oAldgubp32lq8WOk+VfUOSoH0=; b=tKpQMntoX0Qo2N8laB63FXFjLQQU16rL4HDRjhOur5ssAlUv5CdCDU1OqPq6czNSdr xYSDWnQ3i8IlwNuSxdsSl9Yo7wUWk54IqryH0zohHPgelubGQiRiFn9bVtu4h6zKI0GI RsRIx9R0ucT3tQdIS4rMrEOb0SHcYIl9Fi8SHeKfC7U0Bhzp5jpZYrpJk1XWfDTD1uGa qrOubLsr+EvnEqL3oNKHTS5pieNpqX31FlJGGk59bjaeOAT25xm3QJEE7PV9OEyqoPGT LGo5sH5i+426HbiUkUVgrB+oJ9F+YKxi5qyFLYR7VKXYEl5GQgUfhMMWJ4UAfs6ADisi 4W/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5322/Jy1jMOfFxKjt/CUsJ/PGCv2YCfRpO/vVmI7qGudHv8/QMgc cdotM8MNjxQJwjby3xqUi8gA0g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxZSXe/bC5ITZWQVA/mac1tUpQQ6iWcFujWB3+0gNw2cbAxXtnk9dLbagSYEvJ3V0QrFiQl3Q== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7602:: with SMTP id k2mr13664978pll.97.1599344733312; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2600:1700:7270:7d1f:fa59:71ff:fe00:10cc]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q127sm10474484pfb.61.2020.09.05.15.25.32 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Li To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#43209: 27.1; rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode disabled References: <80363w3owp.fsf@felesatra.moe> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:25:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 5 Sep 2020 07:28:08 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <80sgbv97z8.fsf@felesatra.moe> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43209 Cc: 43209@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: > I agree that `rectangle-mark-mode' requires > `transient-mark-mode' to be on. But only as > long as `rectangle-mark-mode' is on, i.e., > only as long as the region is active. > > After that, the previous state of > `transient-mark-mode' (on or off) should be > restored. > > "Active region" has no meaning outside of > `transient-mark-mode'. Anything, including > `rectangle-mark-mode', that requires the > notion (and behavior - e.g. highlighting) of > the "active region" needs `transient-mark-mode' > to be on (for the duration of that need). Sure. I refer to "active region with transient transient-mark-mode" as just "active region" for brevity. Basically, I'm saying that C-x SPC should do the same thing C-SPC C-SPC does when the user has set transient-mark-mode to nil in their config. The point of this bug is that C-x SPC does not activate the region (or does not transiently enable transient-mark-mode and then activate the region, if you prefer). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 12 08:29:19 2021 Received: (at 43209) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jun 2021 12:29:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40521 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ls2lL-00076b-Fo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:29:19 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ls2lJ-00076I-Ry for 43209@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 08:29:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Nl3aL3S+lxMOa8sCaO+7tvjEi4j4PTI1UseqxMFto5g=; b=mSreW5byEMXAWn7rp2wMNqv4fU U93KIleNH7yaKb050CAAvzlt/v92GjohJDG3C+6eJSwkxkIlUd4X4DJtiBHje6G83yDumHLGcMt4h NALKkqqgG6qbPkBZlodRm0ICgrYL+wrV7nuR0ZqFZsGFpqowMSWgiKNH+suIG6QG9+vk=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ls2lB-0005e5-IH; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:29:11 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Allen Li Subject: Re: bug#43209: 27.1; rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode disabled References: <80363w3owp.fsf@felesatra.moe> X-Now-Playing: Colored Music's _Individual Beauty_: "Ambient Discotheque" Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 14:29:09 +0200 In-Reply-To: <80363w3owp.fsf@felesatra.moe> (Allen Li's message of "Fri, 04 Sep 2020 20:04:06 -0700") Message-ID: <87tum36zca.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Allen Li writes: > rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode is > disabled. > > Steps: > > 1. emacs -Q > 2. M-x transient-mark-mode RET > 3. C-x SPC > > Expected: > > Region is activated temp [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43209 Cc: 43209@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Allen Li writes: > rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode is > disabled. > > Steps: > > 1. emacs -Q > 2. M-x transient-mark-mode RET > 3. C-x SPC > > Expected: > > Region is activated temporarily. > > Actual: > > Region is not activated. Note that rectagle-mark-mode is still > partially enabled. For example, C-x C-x moves point according to the > rectangular region, but you cannot move point beyond the end of the > line. > > I propose making rectangle-mark-mode activate the region even if > transient-mark-mode is disabled for a number of reasons. I'm not quite sure I fully understand the suggestion -- do you mean that `C-x SPC' should switch transient-mark-mode on if it isn't already? 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M-x transient-mark-mode RET > > 3. C-x SPC > > > > Expected: > > > > Region is activated temporarily. > > > > Actual: > > > > Region is not activated. Note that rectagle-mark-mode is still > > partially enabled. For example, C-x C-x moves point according to the > > rectangular region, but you cannot move point beyond the end of the > > line. > > > > I propose making rectangle-mark-mode activate the region even if > > transient-mark-mode is disabled for a number of reasons. > > I'm not quite sure I fully understand the suggestion -- do you mean that > `C-x SPC' should switch transient-mark-mode on if it isn't already? > (And then switch it off again in `deactivate-mark-hook'?) > Behavior-wise, it should work the same as `C-SPC C-SPC` when transient-mark-mode is off, (temporarily enable transient-mark-mode and active region). I don't remember how that is implemented off the top of my head. > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > --000000000000bfb5a505c4d61228 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=
On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 12:29 PM Lars= Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> = wrote:
Allen Li = <darkfeline@felesatra.moe> writes:

> rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode is=
> disabled.
>
> Steps:
>
> 1. emacs -Q
> 2. M-x transient-mark-mode RET
> 3. C-x SPC
>
> Expected:
>
> Region is activated temporarily.
>
> Actual:
>
> Region is not activated.=C2=A0 Note that rectagle-mark-mode is still > partially enabled.=C2=A0 For example, C-x C-x moves point according to= the
> rectangular region, but you cannot move point beyond the end of the > line.
>
> I propose making rectangle-mark-mode activate the region even if
> transient-mark-mode is disabled for a number of reasons.

I'm not quite sure I fully understand the suggestion -- do you mean tha= t
`C-x SPC' should switch transient-mark-mode on if it isn't already?=
(And then switch it off again in `deactivate-mark-hook'?)

Behavior-wise, it should work the same as `C-SPC C-S= PC` when transient-mark-mode is off,
(temporarily enable=C2=A0tra= nsient-mark-mode and active region).
I don't remember how tha= t is implemented off the top of my head.
=C2=A0

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
--000000000000bfb5a505c4d61228-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jun 19 08:21:18 2021 Received: (at 43209) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2021 12:21:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luZyP-0000k1-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 08:21:18 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:50788) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1luZyN-0000jo-IE for 43209@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 08:21:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=UBK7+ktPQXIb3bfteWp9eKAM1Dh26UmfvscFKuuFGAo=; b=P1rFBV2WeoySk2BUhWuJiFcm7T BCihnlsvbRkicxP/I2UmP7FtwT3D1I0w2OfaxPFj4f6n+SzzFrQtUSHyYRieQyrvFN3haWN72x+l/ SCvSdhN0gRVurxi3KM+a8O9b8K0dhLA9OLt+qDynR4Aa1Mvr+2eDPC3Gi1rtcXYcMPuw=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1luZyF-0001o5-7E; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 14:21:09 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Allen Li Subject: Re: bug#43209: 27.1; rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode disabled References: <80363w3owp.fsf@felesatra.moe> <87tum36zca.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Oval's _Scis_: "Improg" Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 14:21:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Allen Li's message of "Tue, 15 Jun 2021 23:09:49 +0000") Message-ID: <8735te2ggd.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Allen Li writes: > I'm not quite sure I fully understand the suggestion -- do you mean that > `C-x SPC' should switch transient-mark-mode on if it isn't already? > (And then switch it off again in `deactivate-mark-hoo [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43209 Cc: 43209@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Allen Li writes: > I'm not quite sure I fully understand the suggestion -- do you mean that > `C-x SPC' should switch transient-mark-mode on if it isn't already? > (And then switch it off again in `deactivate-mark-hook'?) > > Behavior-wise, it should work the same as `C-SPC C-SPC` when > transient-mark-mode is off, > (temporarily enable transient-mark-mode and active region). > I don't remember how that is implemented off the top of my head. We don't normally switch transient mark mode on (even temporarily) unless the user has requested so (with `C-SPC C-SPC', for instance). So I still don't understand why this rectangle command should do so. `C-x SPC' seems to work fine both with transient mode on or off, as far as I can tell? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 23 01:33:29 2021 Received: (at 43209-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jun 2021 05:33:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40245 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lvvVx-00009r-Ay for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:33:29 -0400 Received: from mail-oi1-f179.google.com ([209.85.167.179]:34411) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lvvVv-00009d-4R for 43209-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jun 2021 01:33:27 -0400 Received: by mail-oi1-f179.google.com with SMTP id u11so2085564oiv.1 for <43209-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 22:33:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=felesatra-moe.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=4LFH2juO/QvAXeF6ptVsVGaPOl7c0lvNtM/D8Z3wVMw=; b=QGx4dZqF+uKgf6xoJgOiUhv6i+GTP1eHCCBosGF0ibuGDK/GeHLdxX/D0vbcMFCUxw 2dJSE5Td03oAzc1p0R5EcqeeqSjFBByHlqyd7D1I1QfJuPtfsXPmhp7p4J6gN8UeTOhi Ml8u2t8ILK94KOgdNnIul7DhOSh6DR1TJdQulcx+BttGLsiahoqKcs8mMmxyWoP0xCi6 ZWPL+mlb2K1w7kVJic6IiDHjslzYs88xhglLgOvqYU+wuu++u8Vb2jz+kWk6imVAi3Xw 7b0TCj/gXamddGZDickijsR4QckO1BoXNozpvnOWua0mTGtxB9EonjS2igTIiF+cqhwP 9dng== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=4LFH2juO/QvAXeF6ptVsVGaPOl7c0lvNtM/D8Z3wVMw=; b=ci+mNaPRHB/PzbLMQuEwM5hHJFxXUmPhmKdDd/cbZApDP3bwDkh3OeM0xWVlkyrAnL FdO58A4SvhQ4EJVzrXdZmsu9wRWPcbHt0d/hSAUexDEfi5mxOh7I4lUNw4ABKjjHOclS h4e6SzMA3buySwZiq02I3DpQhwNU7WasjxwXitvKPEWF6zFpROYTweryhqvhGM5743Rq yT2drNozRcjOAhxPTRIxrgxgyEnLAUrIqbziXnBE8fHiZ2pt/+zKaChef81pX9YOqUi/ SJpqmr+YdzaGmWsNLA86jQjfczlaB7Df7rp7jlwpgocMSPk7yTrkA7MmFiildMlTM1FI pTVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530yzolqW9LvGa0wYcMDVrmp2jr3kROLSo2Ovy7OM3ndxYCLawDW qCIreYBOTAeMXSSMh282t/c6a1hS/Pkjafrt8sgG9A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy50mqcD2rhm8SAK4PvtWWyGmt04ZlmQMmtSxYyJLycgYkFF6vhsH159MrO41pLuzwIDR/3Zl8Svn44kJhiHtM= X-Received: by 2002:a54:4412:: with SMTP id k18mr1942223oiw.170.1624426401444; Tue, 22 Jun 2021 22:33:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <80363w3owp.fsf@felesatra.moe> <87tum36zca.fsf@gnus.org> <8735te2ggd.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <8735te2ggd.fsf@gnus.org> From: Allen Li Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 05:33:10 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#43209: 27.1; rectangle-mark-mode does not activate region if transient mark mode disabled To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009f471d05c5683ed6" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43209-done Cc: 43209-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000009f471d05c5683ed6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:21 PM Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Allen Li writes: > > > I'm not quite sure I fully understand the suggestion -- do you mean that > > `C-x SPC' should switch transient-mark-mode on if it isn't already? > > (And then switch it off again in `deactivate-mark-hook'?) > > > > Behavior-wise, it should work the same as `C-SPC C-SPC` when > > transient-mark-mode is off, > > (temporarily enable transient-mark-mode and active region). > > I don't remember how that is implemented off the top of my head. > > We don't normally switch transient mark mode on (even temporarily) > unless the user has requested so (with `C-SPC C-SPC', for instance). So > I still don't understand why this rectangle command should do so. > > `C-x SPC' seems to work fine both with transient mode on or off, as far > as I can tell? > I suppose it does. I guess I originally did not appreciate how one could use rectangle-mark-mode with a non-active region, but it seems to work as the me today expects, so I'll close this bug. > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > --0000000000009f471d05c5683ed6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:21 PM Lars Ing= ebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrot= e:
Allen Li <darkfeline@felesatra.moe> writes:

>=C2=A0 I'm not quite sure I fully understand the suggestion -- do y= ou mean that
>=C2=A0 `C-x SPC' should switch transient-mark-mode on if it isn'= ;t already?
>=C2=A0 (And then switch it off again in `deactivate-mark-hook'?) >
> Behavior-wise, it should work the same as `C-SPC C-SPC` when
> transient-mark-mode is off,
> (temporarily enable transient-mark-mode and active region).
> I don't remember how that is implemented off the top of my head.
We don't normally switch transient mark mode on (even temporarily)
unless the user has requested so (with `C-SPC C-SPC', for instance).=C2= =A0 So
I still don't understand why this rectangle command should do so.

`C-x SPC' seems to work fine both with transient mode on or off, as far=
as I can tell?

I suppose it does.=C2=A0= I guess I originally did not appreciate how one could use rectangle-mark-m= ode
with a non-active region, but it seems to work as the me toda= y expects, so I'll close this bug.
=C2=A0

--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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