From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Vitaliy Shatrov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 05:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.159902370028260 (code B ref -1); Wed, 02 Sep 2020 05:15:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2020 05:15:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6p-0007Lj-NW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:15:00 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:36552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6m-0007LY-1e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6l-0000Ph-Sx for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:55 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:44418) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6j-00055z-Bv for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89B6529AF for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 07:14:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J6ZqG-bXLZ1G for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 07:14:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 12:16:06 +0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1599023688; bh=M1Z69vQgyv64O9gJwHttXaaqXpn1Wl+/myTYA26s8WE=; h=Date:Subject:To:From; b=YhvLqK1HBBzdYyOZsxS9dre7wYFIxiYJCyJHI8i8n67ES6EsohZg3FYsolMWRySnX YX4HajETAggvqMHc7DNQV3BZeSPjbd63YuAPiYzCTa4JHJUHLNvU3Rycf78nFwPNCx 6o4dXiD8FtvPdi96Mnuc8Fze19fbojqsJn99e84WvdEk7W6/J4oQb7RzDCfPikY00n Ez2C5EGuUOU23SF5e46mX2CpsV8sQE4vEiC/Gkz10A9eeVs0AAnF8+Cs31lVybJho+ yYGT4xFqHoToMnqUhG9Ghgay/ffX95nY5ENBvsylEZT5zRhAA5e7GxWMZSE+P/1Co7 glNqHOvwewsEA== Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Vitaliy Shatrov Message-ID: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=guix.vits@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/02 01:14:49 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) ------X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again dear Guixen=2E I use emacs-w3m as a browser on a single board computer=2E I want to rea= d, for example, issue #43159=2E I can read it on https://debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg/43159=2E It's formatted prop= erly, and the patch is readable too=2E But the https://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/43159 is barely readable, and the patch is unreadable at all=2E Even quoted tex= t appear as: > line > another line > more lines=2E=2E I think the issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg should automatically append a link = to the debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg, for all issues=2E It can be named like No-J= S version here, or so=2E The Links browser also can't show issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg properly for n= ow=2E Thanks=2E --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again dear Guixen=2E
I use emacs-w3m as a browser on a single boa= rd computer=2E I want to read, for example, issue #43159=2E

I can r= ead it on https://debbugs= =2Egnu=2Eorg/43159=2E It's formatted properly, and the patch is readab= le too=2E

But the https://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/43159
is barely readable, and th= e patch is unreadable at all=2E Even quoted text appear as:
> line &= gt; another line > more lines=2E=2E

I think the issues=2Eguix=2Eg= nu=2Eorg should automatically append a link to the debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg, fo= r all issues=2E It can be named like <a>No-JS version here</a>= , or so=2E

The Links browser also can't show issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eo= rg properly for now=2E

Thanks=2E
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Sent from my Android devi= ce with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ-- From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Vitaliy Shatrov , 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.159906752117573 (code B ref 43166); Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2020 17:25:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60622 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDWVd-0004ZM-88 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 13:25:21 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:48738) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDWVb-0004Z5-Ag for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 13:25:19 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kDWVV-0003im-0Y; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 13:25:13 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 13:24:04 -0400 Message-ID: <87eenk148g.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Vitaliy Shatrov writes: > Hello again dear Guixen. > I use emacs-w3m as a browser on a single board computer. I want to read, for example, issue #43159. > > I can read it on https://debbugs.gnu.org/43159. It's formatted properly, and the patch is readable too. > > But the https://issues.guix.gnu.org/43159 > is barely readable, and the patch is unreadable at all. Even quoted text appear as: >> line > another line > more lines.. I see similar problems with both 'lynx' and 'dillo' when remote CSS is disabled. As you point out, https://debbugs.gnu.org/ works much better for simpler web browsers. > I think the issues.guix.gnu.org should automatically append a link to > the debbugs.gnu.org, for all issues. It can be named like No-JS > version here, or so. I haven't looked carefully, but the issue seems to be related to CSS, not Javascript. Thanks, Mark From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 18:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Vitaliy Shatrov , 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.159907076622482 (code B ref 43166); Wed, 02 Sep 2020 18:20:01 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2020 18:19:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60673 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDXLx-0005qY-Dx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 14:19:25 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:48870) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDXLv-0005qK-Le for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 14:19:24 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kDXLp-0004Ez-Dk; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 14:19:17 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <87eenk148g.fsf@netris.org> References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87eenk148g.fsf@netris.org> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 14:18:09 -0400 Message-ID: <875z8w11qb.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Earlier, I wrote: > I see similar problems with both 'lynx' and 'dillo' when remote CSS is > disabled. To be clear, Lynx doesn't have CSS support, so it's unable to properly render 'issues.guix.gnu.org'. Dillo can render it unless remote CSS is disabled. Mark From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: zimoun Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Vitaliy Shatrov Cc: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.159914951513349 (code B ref 43166); Thu, 03 Sep 2020 16:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Sep 2020 16:11:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35993 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDrq6-0003TE-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 12:11:55 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f180.google.com ([209.85.222.180]:36517) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDrq4-0003T1-MB for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 12:11:54 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f180.google.com with SMTP id f2so3593007qkh.3 for <43166@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:11:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nnWkRsrR699c1d63eH2F/cxRozUB57ldAg87LjdRklI=; b=YBNaFYwKGZcsDRhwzNMxXZSF4gvqRXB9miXHCgZMkdYwHP4xjmrSIt7BwDqxZO1jSD sZ9o7D394/X5Jl6wJXQNxIuWJFR7Ph73OTe7wor7rximXHRy+pApQLMGyd0mN1WgN1S0 1MTRdv7xOaQAuheT/JEKiWG7oGfX+vtt8NzFPicqvDLENbyU+ia05qeSc3MVYXBT6JF4 S5FXsWDTcwRs6+spgnMEDdjJlDdmNEi3/Pvw6ww/T0Tcr8ll9RaFuUlCS2vPm4tE2VpW O6lgzlss1n5GgFa9oNXnO6o1YJFgvnOXiRwr+GzvuuTCTOLeDFtPTmmTSwxdiWXXO3ap hFcw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nnWkRsrR699c1d63eH2F/cxRozUB57ldAg87LjdRklI=; b=kVDHXtnwy2bfie6jF3jLLHAGkiYcVih3ZdBCMYE3tujPU7bJYJMvgOxfypK9fzFdz2 s5T2ctQhlVBK2GwYEJg2vd8bUOVSWqcxMKy9TQrmQySwlOhwLa5Ah1Y1/BP+h/sqavrO 2AglsTs0l1bzm+8CnBY8MufmykYBh5VRIO/CY76gOhgr8zpT3pbwweP6CrymJ+Qu88R9 Bj6IaJrBSr/ZQProUoJLb9m/zhFucVYIoGcWVmKoqrkYbX5jooxe7mFIuTTzgmkI/xCM k0PU5DKEl0hxgmKOvzy5jRbcKZITnziYPRV9KvY5eJyX9+SSvavCjPTKmy/0JQCKGyhG 45+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53280vnl2MG3OZRZR5kLO8qY66NsZXFpX6aEtIDUGtzAcM9apNaW Dyj54mWvKDLYqvcwriWM58kWTotyspMday2dOdw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxxhkAy/6tCGG3AEQcxIiqDqYZpk1PlVjZfh9cwCh9pzz/n1RjlMbi4T6BdWaX1v1zox1CRQbtrPC/l0kvhWGo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:53a:: with SMTP id h26mr3907094qkh.232.1599149507265; Thu, 03 Sep 2020 09:11:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> In-Reply-To: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> From: zimoun Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 18:11:35 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dear, If you use Emacs, you should try the package emacs-debbugs. Then: C-u M-x debbugs-gnu guix,guix-patches n y and last M-x debbugs-gnu-bugs 43159 It does not solve the CSS and/or Javascript issue but it clearly eases the readings of bug reports with Emacs. All the best, simon From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Vitaliy Shatrov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:18:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: zimoun Cc: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.159931543024573 (code B ref 43166); Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:18:01 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 14:17:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43741 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZ0A-0006O6-0r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:17:10 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:43698) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZ08-0006Li-36 for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:17:09 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996A7529E7; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 16:17:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wCjF1av8aWzh; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 16:17:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Vitaliy Shatrov DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1599315425; bh=3EQFU2R1N8g1IftoF/hQlWtVGxDncfQD+MoBY8XCncs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=YekknAaKCZBTW9c3plNbgiUFVjmUeFWbU3ATS9uJXA9O/RlUQN1w1EBEtwfvRIbUd IogH5V3sVPCJRzvdI5rxyS04iAFfa8T3MLGLQjEKYkWMVsu4lwQZ2wL7BszRctVADU PfYybIDiSBhqGv7r0wtZWd80ISpYRcbMdvOmwQL7Luj28nk0NYvUzwcA9bisxb5ILB sSTmKpgq7KMnAQuUOtnQm4cNwzjJ/0yy2gZDYYDPRalGTaizF6KzNsTlFebdZGlIfp EzErQyu2gWWl0RWz58KeHfNHYL/c6pFVgVNGT64qYoKloPGpEsGsmC3MwvBwNqPhgO cgXv8ZfHZcffA== References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:51 +0700 In-Reply-To: (zimoun's message of "Thu, 3 Sep 2020 18:11:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Really i was a fool. Thanks for suggesting a tool. No more dances with web-faces. From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Vitaliy Shatrov Subject: bug#43166: closed (Re: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m.) Message-ID: References: <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 43166 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:03:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1600088582-17579-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1600088582-17579-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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[205.233.124.4]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l5sm14247621qtc.28.2020.09.14.06.02.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 14 Sep 2020 06:02:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Vitaliy Shatrov Subject: Re: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 09:03:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> (Vitaliy Shatrov's message of "Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:51 +0700") Message-ID: <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43166-done Cc: 43166-done@debbugs.gnu.org, zimoun X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Vitaliy, Vitaliy Shatrov writes: Closing since a dedicated tool for use in Emacs (emacs-debbugs) exists, which works around the shortcomings of the Emacs web browsers (Probably CSS related, as Mark pointed out). Thanks, Maxim ------------=_1600088582-17579-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2020 05:15:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6p-0007Lj-NW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:15:00 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:36552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6m-0007LY-1e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6l-0000Ph-Sx for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:55 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:44418) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6j-00055z-Bv for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89B6529AF for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 07:14:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J6ZqG-bXLZ1G for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 07:14:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 12:16:06 +0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1599023688; bh=M1Z69vQgyv64O9gJwHttXaaqXpn1Wl+/myTYA26s8WE=; h=Date:Subject:To:From; b=YhvLqK1HBBzdYyOZsxS9dre7wYFIxiYJCyJHI8i8n67ES6EsohZg3FYsolMWRySnX YX4HajETAggvqMHc7DNQV3BZeSPjbd63YuAPiYzCTa4JHJUHLNvU3Rycf78nFwPNCx 6o4dXiD8FtvPdi96Mnuc8Fze19fbojqsJn99e84WvdEk7W6/J4oQb7RzDCfPikY00n Ez2C5EGuUOU23SF5e46mX2CpsV8sQE4vEiC/Gkz10A9eeVs0AAnF8+Cs31lVybJho+ yYGT4xFqHoToMnqUhG9Ghgay/ffX95nY5ENBvsylEZT5zRhAA5e7GxWMZSE+P/1Co7 glNqHOvwewsEA== Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. To: bug-guix@gnu.org From: Vitaliy Shatrov Message-ID: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=178.21.23.139; envelope-from=guix.vits@disroot.org; helo=knopi.disroot.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/02 01:14:49 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) ------X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again dear Guixen=2E I use emacs-w3m as a browser on a single board computer=2E I want to rea= d, for example, issue #43159=2E I can read it on https://debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg/43159=2E It's formatted prop= erly, and the patch is readable too=2E But the https://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/43159 is barely readable, and the patch is unreadable at all=2E Even quoted tex= t appear as: > line > another line > more lines=2E=2E I think the issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg should automatically append a link = to the debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg, for all issues=2E It can be named like No-J= S version here, or so=2E The Links browser also can't show issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg properly for n= ow=2E Thanks=2E --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again dear Guixen=2E
I use emacs-w3m as a browser on a single boa= rd computer=2E I want to read, for example, issue #43159=2E

I can r= ead it on https://debbugs= =2Egnu=2Eorg/43159=2E It's formatted properly, and the patch is readab= le too=2E

But the https://issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eorg/43159
is barely readable, and th= e patch is unreadable at all=2E Even quoted text appear as:
> line &= gt; another line > more lines=2E=2E

I think the issues=2Eguix=2Eg= nu=2Eorg should automatically append a link to the debbugs=2Egnu=2Eorg, fo= r all issues=2E It can be named like <a>No-JS version here</a>= , or so=2E

The Links browser also can't show issues=2Eguix=2Egnu=2Eo= rg properly for now=2E

Thanks=2E
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Sent from my Android devi= ce with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ-- ------------=_1600088582-17579-1-- From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Maxim Cournoyer , Vitaliy Shatrov Cc: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.16001170354974 (code B ref 43166); Mon, 14 Sep 2020 20:58:01 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2020 20:57:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kHvXH-0001I6-4M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:57:15 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:35922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kHvXF-0001HR-IU for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:57:14 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kHvX9-0008Cu-AI; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:57:07 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:55:51 -0400 Message-ID: <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Maxim Cournoyer writes: > Vitaliy Shatrov writes: > > Closing since a dedicated tool for use in Emacs (emacs-debbugs) exists, > which works around the shortcomings of the Emacs web browsers (Probably > CSS related, as Mark pointed out). For what it's worth: not everyone uses Emacs, and it would be good to support users who choose to use simpler software. I guess that it would be quite easy to modify the software behind 'issues.guix.gnu.org' to generate HTML that works well with simpler web browsers, so I'd prefer to keep this bug open. What do you think? Mark From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: zimoun Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mark H Weaver Cc: Vitaliy Shatrov , Maxim Cournoyer , 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.16001182947165 (code B ref 43166); Mon, 14 Sep 2020 21:19:01 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2020 21:18:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kHvra-0001rV-8W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:18:14 -0400 Received: from mail-qv1-f45.google.com ([209.85.219.45]:46922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kHvrW-0001rG-Ui for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 17:18:13 -0400 Received: by mail-qv1-f45.google.com with SMTP id di5so604863qvb.13 for <43166@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 14:18:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+srCyS883PDTx4FbVCwvqIi+ngKZzGtXgVj5w5qCyb4=; b=vTmVW/a91EPxOfyIq++O3U93vOs3Iid59dgnRJ79AH1u2seehxmmMFvS/QwQhWasgf BJndXqM2CiQw5a9BeMv8O1TH4R+7uWCdVuremWT+cFhMWqb2i32WdEnEdE033BlG2Qj3 k+MZ/qWNWOn+L86y9oyfMsObcPeiA5GnQd/HDQVeUiVu6HBi32S6zDUIdxAE9Pzmq0ri /bz3K7bnUksUfGcgjm8yPHpuICsGsSGbzseIafqqvmy6FAUWEjCWZbz5Xtb06yTowgNw rbXNXuh/YDEBNgPgM0gwFkRWPVa0WbDb2TR+r+dAdCyav93JzmKcCvFQDAukNbTL4wAr rYjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+srCyS883PDTx4FbVCwvqIi+ngKZzGtXgVj5w5qCyb4=; b=NaPz5WHKbWz52bmnMfO1ibvHb9xGvUVtm31NvuEOD2xvukpEY2HH+dlXgcc7o5WxcI cVlp2oCpNdRdQeASKKnKrR0YAx19Cd1GrZKj0qZwLJVlSuD+dzV3l9kCdn/cHkqOTw5Z bxnqJvzo4ufomQGldhTvQs4zaDBrnifr8D+Hy9h5ESeFU0qlP60G35fReeG00oWNO08D 0mIHiM4hjzqyXUYcXBPehuh9VRrrTucPGhl1f+K9bDJimXtW310PNw42L0Z/olPQIgFX SkmoyyUnrf3YPWlA4m3z4srC6PzjtgC0ZLa0/aVKnwmeBoW0mDNMsDvpE+eO7fESVhkR ZtSQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533mm5Avarsw9rQ/uc3iQISUBAxNCxnJv9lasUT2aoZ4dB6tIgUE C56TJd5gSaPq9TgI7Xu1haxWOC5KJwwyAMPVbbE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyU1iUIFcFgDxibu2N3yO2eUhN1K85KSwe6w4kuit4jpoGbB2iMIYUotZ4WpqRTC7KPdjLfIpBb6BHtBZ3RjcA= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:db8d:: with SMTP id m13mr15744372qvk.88.1600118285276; Mon, 14 Sep 2020 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> In-Reply-To: <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> From: zimoun Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 23:17:53 +0200 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dear Mark, On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 22:58, Mark H Weaver wrote: > For what it's worth: not everyone uses Emacs, and it would be good to > support users who choose to use simpler software. I guess that it would > be quite easy to modify the software behind 'issues.guix.gnu.org' to > generate HTML that works well with simpler web browsers, so I'd prefer > to keep this bug open. What do you think? I am not sure to understand. Something that generates HTML that works well with simpler web browsers is , isn't it? >From what I understand, the aim (and "raison d'=C3=A9tre) of is to generate what is considered as "modern webapp". Therefore, what is the concrete request? - read the Debbugs with a simple web browser? Then the answer is . - add a button in saying "simple html there" and redirecting to ? If yes, the source code to tweak is there and I agree it would be quite easy; I will give a try if no one beats me. :-) All the best, simon From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. 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I guess that it would >> be quite easy to modify the software behind 'issues.guix.gnu.org' to >> generate HTML that works well with simpler web browsers, so I'd prefer >> to keep this bug open. What do you think? > > I am not sure to understand. Something that generates HTML that works > well with simpler web browsers is , isn't it? > From what I understand, the aim (and "raison d'=C3=A9tre) of > is to generate what is considered as "modern > webapp". > > Therefore, what is the concrete request? > > - read the Debbugs with a simple web browser? Then the answer is > . > - add a button in saying "simple html there" and > redirecting to ? If yes, the source code to tweak is > there and I > agree it would be quite easy; I will give a try if no one beats me. > :-) As the primary author of mumi (the software behind issues.guix.gnu.org) I agree with Mark and think this is worth fixing. I don=E2=80=99t want peo= ple to have to use debbugs.gnu.org with its different features when we could just make issues.guix.gnu.org do the right thing on simpler browsers. issues.guix.gnu.org is supposed to offer a =E2=80=9Csuperior=E2=80=9D exper= ience to debbugs.gnu.org =E2=80=94 it is supposed to be sufficient to replace it, no= t to be merely an alternative view; while a primarily goal is indeed to make it look =E2=80=9Cpretty=E2=80=9D (i.e. some font and spacing improvements a= nd very subjective style changes that lean on what many users of Github and Gitlab may be familiar with), it also provides features that debbugs.gnu.org does not, such as listing =E2=80=9Cforgotten=E2=80=9D issue= s, to search without a somewhat complicated form, or the ability to comment from a browser. There is no good reason why this should not be usable by people who use a simpler browser (I=E2=80=99m one of these people on some days). If it tu= rns out to be tricky to implement or to cause a degraded experience for those who use popular browsers we can still close this, but I think we should at least try. --=20 Ricardo From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. 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I=E2=80=99m marking up each line in a message with a =E2=80=9Cspan=E2=80=9D= tag and a =E2=80=9Cline=E2=80=9D class; then I use CSS to visually separate the lines. Simple browsers that don=E2=80=99t support this CSS rely on =E2=80=9Cspan=E2=80=9D to be an= inline tag; likewise they rely on =E2=80=9Cdiv=E2=80=9D to be a block tag, no matter what the CS= S might say. So the attached patch changes the tag from =E2=80=9Cspan=E2=80=9D to =E2=80= =9Cdiv=E2=80=9D, so simple browsers will render each line on their own instead of joining them. This seems to have no negative impact on the rendering in other browsers. It also shouldn=E2=80=99t be a problem going forward, as popular powerful browsers allow me to style these =E2=80=9Cdiv=E2=80=9D tags without limitations. What do you think? --=20 Ricardo --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline; filename=p.patch diff --git a/assets/css/screen.css b/assets/css/screen.css index 684bc01..5d8513d 100644 --- a/assets/css/screen.css +++ b/assets/css/screen.css @@ -353,28 +353,28 @@ details { display: none; } -.message span.line { +.message div.line { white-space: pre-wrap; font-family: monospace; display: block; } /* diff styles */ -.message .diff span.line.diff.file { +.message .diff div.line.diff.file { color: #005cc5; } -.message .diff span.line.diff.separator { +.message .diff div.line.diff.separator { color: #005cc5; } -.message .diff span.line.diff.addition { +.message .diff div.line.diff.addition { color: #22863a; background-color: #f0fff4; } -.message .diff span.line.diff.deletion { +.message .diff div.line.diff.deletion { color: #b31d28; background-color: #ffeef0; } -.message .diff span.line.diff.range { +.message .diff div.line.diff.range { color: #6f42c1; font-weight: bold; } @@ -394,7 +394,7 @@ details { } /* quote styles */ -.message .quote span.line { +.message .quote div.line { color: #3868cc; } diff --git a/mumi/web/view/utils.scm b/mumi/web/view/utils.scm index 3c95644..4a4ecb0 100644 --- a/mumi/web/view/utils.scm +++ b/mumi/web/view/utils.scm @@ -68,7 +68,7 @@ with the next context." (if (string-prefix? "--8<---------------cut here" line) (values blocks #f) (values (cons (add-block-line! block - `(span (@ (class "line")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line")) ,line)) other-blocks) context))) ((eq? context 'diff) @@ -79,17 +79,17 @@ with the next context." (let ((formatted-line (cond ((string= "---" line) - `(span (@ (class "line diff separator")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line diff separator")) ,line)) ((string-prefix? "+" line) - `(span (@ (class "line diff addition")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line diff addition")) ,line)) ((and (string-prefix? "-" line) (not (string= "--" line)) (not (string= "-- " line))) - `(span (@ (class "line diff deletion")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line diff deletion")) ,line)) ((string-prefix? "@@" line) - `(span (@ (class "line diff range")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line diff range")) ,line)) (else - `(span (@ (class "line")) ,line))))) + `(div (@ (class "line")) ,line))))) (values (cons (add-block-line! block formatted-line) other-blocks) context)))) @@ -97,7 +97,7 @@ with the next context." (if (string-prefix? ">" line) ;; Add line to current block (values (cons (add-block-line! block - `(span (@ (class "line")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line")) ,line)) other-blocks) context) ;; Retry @@ -124,28 +124,28 @@ with the next context." ((uri-string . rest) (or (and=> (string->uri uri-string) (lambda (uri) - `(span (@ (class "line")) - ,(string-trim-right pre #\<) - (a (@ (href ,uri-string)) - ,uri-string) - ,(string-join rest " ")))) - `(span (@ (class "line")) ,line))))))) + `(div (@ (class "line")) + ,(string-trim-right pre #\<) + (a (@ (href ,uri-string)) + ,uri-string) + ,(string-join rest " ")))) + `(div (@ (class "line")) ,line))))))) ((or (string-prefix? "Signed-off-by" line) (string-prefix? "Co-authored-by" line)) - `(span (@ (class "line commit attribution")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line commit attribution")) ,line)) ((or (string-prefix? "From: " line) (string-prefix? "Date: " line) (string-prefix? "Subject: " line)) - `(span (@ (class "line commit header")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line commit header")) ,line)) ((or (string-prefix? "* " line) (string-prefix? " * " line)) - `(span (@ (class "line commit changelog")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line commit changelog")) ,line)) ((string-prefix? "diff --git" line) - `(span (@ (class "line diff file")) ,line)) + `(div (@ (class "line diff file")) ,line)) ((string-prefix? "--8<---------------cut here" line) "") (else - `(span (@ (class "line")) ,line))))) + `(div (@ (class "line")) ,line))))) (if (eq? new-context context) (values (cons (add-block-line! block formatted-line) other-blocks) --=-=-=-- From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ricardo Wurmus Cc: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org, guix.vits@disroot.org, maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com, zimoun Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.160016352616245 (code B ref 43166); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 09:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2020 09:52:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7d7-0004Dx-Rr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 05:52:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34536) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7d3-0004DQ-M5 for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 05:52:04 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7cw-00066w-A9; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 05:51:54 -0400 Received: from [2001:980:1b4f:1:42d2:832d:bb59:862] (port=38090 helo=dundal.janneke.lilypond.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7cu-0007qC-Eb; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 05:51:53 -0400 From: Jan Nieuwenhuizen Organization: AvatarAcademy.nl References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> <874ko0xby5.fsf@elephly.net> <87v9gfx2zl.fsf@elephly.net> X-Url: http://AvatarAcademy.nl Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 11:51:20 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87v9gfx2zl.fsf@elephly.net> (Ricardo Wurmus's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2020 03:06:38 +0200") Message-ID: <87y2lb5pwn.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Ricardo Wurmus writes: > The attached patch seems to fix the worst problems. Ohh...thank you!!! This makes issues at least readable in EWW. It's a bit annoying to change issues URLs into bugs.gnu.org urls and this also made me reluctant to share issues URLs -- altough I greatly appreciate all the work you have been doing here: in heavyweight modern mouse-shoving-browsers --that I personally try to avoid-- it really looks beautiful. > What do you think? It seems that EWW ignores =E2=80=99monospace=E2=80=99... -.message span.line { +.message div.line { white-space: pre-wrap; font-family: monospace; display: block; } ... here, or otherwise "eats" spaces; so diffs/patches are still a bit annoying to read. Ideas? Greetings, Janneke --=20 Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar=C2=AE http://AvatarAcademy.com From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ricardo Wurmus , zimoun Cc: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org, guix.vits@disroot.org, maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, Vitaliy Shatrov , Maxim Cournoyer , 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.160016492218469 (code B ref -1); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:16:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2020 10:15:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7ze-0004nn-1d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:15:22 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52162) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7zV-0004nK-PV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:15:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45956) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7zV-0000To-K3 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:15:13 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:57554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7zS-0000VZ-H7 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:15:12 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kI7zQ-0000Bf-86; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:15:08 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <874ko0xby5.fsf@elephly.net> References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> <874ko0xby5.fsf@elephly.net> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:13:50 -0400 Message-ID: <87wo0vbb46.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/15 06:15:09 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Ricardo Wurmus writes: >> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 22:58, Mark H Weaver wrote: >> >>> For what it's worth: not everyone uses Emacs, and it would be good to >>> support users who choose to use simpler software. I guess that it would >>> be quite easy to modify the software behind 'issues.guix.gnu.org' to >>> generate HTML that works well with simpler web browsers, so I'd prefer >>> to keep this bug open. What do you think? [...] > As the primary author of mumi (the software behind issues.guix.gnu.org) > I agree with Mark and think this is worth fixing. [...] Thank you, Ricardo. > There is no good reason why this should not be usable by people who use > a simpler browser (I=E2=80=99m one of these people on some days). If it = turns > out to be tricky to implement or to cause a degraded experience for > those who use popular browsers we can still close this, but I think we > should at least try. Fair enough. Thanks also for your proposed patch to change some spans to divs. It's a significant improvement, but there remains a very serious problem: multiple spaces are being collapsed into a single space, and leading spaces are lost entirely. This destroys the indentation of all inline code and patches. The two solutions I know are (1) to generate 'pre' elements, or (2) to convert leading spaces and runs of two or more spaces into runs of 'nbsp' entities. (I'm deliberately avoiding HTML syntax in this email, for fear that some email clients may try to render it). My suggestion would be to generate 'pre' elements. It would avoid runs of 'nbsp' entites making the raw html larger and harder to read. It would also ensure that a fixed width font is used. My first thought was to simply modify your patch to change the 'span's with class "line" into 'pre's instead of 'div's. If 'pre' comes with default styling that you don't like, perhaps it could be overridden by additional code in screen.css. I guess this approach would likely work well enough in practice. However, I've noticed that in Dillo with CSS disabled, generating a 'pre' for each line makes the line spacing larger than would be ideal. It seems that some vertical padding or margins are added around each 'pre'. It's likely that many browsers do this in their default styling for 'pre'. With this in mind, it would perhaps be better to wrap a single 'pre' around each message. Then you could either (1) leave the lines as 'span's and add a raw CR-LF after each line (which would make the HTML source code more readable) or (2) change the 'span's to 'div's as in your proposed patch. Another issue, which affects Dillo, is that ASCII apostrophes (') are being converted to 'apos' entities, which are not valid HTML 4. Dillo renders these as the raw source, namely "&" followed by "apos" and ";", which corrupts English text. I suggest removing the third entry in %escape-chars in (mumi web sxml). Is there a reason to keep it? What do you think? Thanks again, Mark From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Ricardo Wurmus , zimoun Cc: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org, guix.vits@disroot.org, maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com X-Debbugs-Original-Cc: bug-guix@gnu.org, Vitaliy Shatrov , Maxim Cournoyer , 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.160016579420101 (code B ref -1); Tue, 15 Sep 2020 10:30:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2020 10:29:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57312 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kI8Di-0005E9-0h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:29:54 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:38798) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kI8Df-0005E1-TT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:29:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kI8Df-0007mQ-MF for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:29:51 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:57598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kI8Dd-0002Pj-TZ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:29:51 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kI8Dc-0000MF-DS; Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:29:48 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <87wo0vbb46.fsf@netris.org> References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> <874ko0xby5.fsf@elephly.net> <87wo0vbb46.fsf@netris.org> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:28:31 -0400 Message-ID: <87pn6nbafp.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.112.178.59; envelope-from=mhw@netris.org; helo=world.peace.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/15 06:15:09 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HTML_ATTACH=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Earlier, I wrote: > However, I've noticed that in Dillo with CSS disabled, generating a > 'pre' for each line makes the line spacing larger than would be ideal. > It seems that some vertical padding or margins are added around each > 'pre'. It's likely that many browsers do this in their default styling > for 'pre'. With this in mind, it would perhaps be better to wrap a > single 'pre' around each message. Then you could either (1) leave the > lines as 'span's and add a raw CR-LF after each line (which would make > the HTML source code more readable) or (2) change the 'span's to 'div's > as in your proposed patch. Actually, I just found by experimentation that option (2) above doesn't work well in either Lynx or Dillo. Option (1) works well in the simple browsers I've tried so far, which are Lynx, Dillo, Netsurf, and Eww. Mark --=-=-= Content-Type: text/html Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=test1.html Content-Description: Example HTML for Option 1 test 
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--=-=-=-- From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. 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[66.158.150.81]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f1sm1924654qkl.93.2021.05.20.06.35.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 May 2021 06:35:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> <874ko0xby5.fsf@elephly.net> <87wo0vbb46.fsf@netris.org> <87pn6nbafp.fsf@netris.org> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 09:35:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pn6nbafp.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:28:31 -0400") Message-ID: <87mtspzfxp.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Mark H Weaver writes: > Earlier, I wrote: >> However, I've noticed that in Dillo with CSS disabled, generating a >> 'pre' for each line makes the line spacing larger than would be ideal. >> It seems that some vertical padding or margins are added around each >> 'pre'. It's likely that many browsers do this in their default styling >> for 'pre'. With this in mind, it would perhaps be better to wrap a >> single 'pre' around each message. Then you could either (1) leave the >> lines as 'span's and add a raw CR-LF after each line (which would make >> the HTML source code more readable) or (2) change the 'span's to 'div's >> as in your proposed patch. > > Actually, I just found by experimentation that option (2) above doesn't > work well in either Lynx or Dillo. Option (1) works well in the simple > browsers I've tried so far, which are Lynx, Dillo, Netsurf, and Eww. > > Mark Friendly ping; it seems not much is missing to close this issue? :-). Thank you, Maxim From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Resent-From: Mark H Weaver Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 16:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43166 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Maxim Cournoyer Cc: Ricardo Wurmus , 43166@debbugs.gnu.org, guix.vits@disroot.org, zimoun Received: via spool by 43166-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43166.16215280812722 (code B ref 43166); Thu, 20 May 2021 16:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 43166) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 May 2021 16:28:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljlWj-0000hn-3Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 12:28:01 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:34124) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ljlWg-0000hU-KA for 43166@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 May 2021 12:27:59 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ljlWa-0005Kq-1B; Thu, 20 May 2021 12:27:52 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver In-Reply-To: <87mtspzfxp.fsf@gmail.com> References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> <874ko0xby5.fsf@elephly.net> <87wo0vbb46.fsf@netris.org> <87pn6nbafp.fsf@netris.org> <87mtspzfxp.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 12:26:59 -0400 Message-ID: <87mtspxte9.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Maxim, Maxim Cournoyer writes: > Mark H Weaver writes: > >> Earlier, I wrote: >>> However, I've noticed that in Dillo with CSS disabled, generating a >>> 'pre' for each line makes the line spacing larger than would be ideal. >>> It seems that some vertical padding or margins are added around each >>> 'pre'. It's likely that many browsers do this in their default styling >>> for 'pre'. With this in mind, it would perhaps be better to wrap a >>> single 'pre' around each message. Then you could either (1) leave the >>> lines as 'span's and add a raw CR-LF after each line (which would make >>> the HTML source code more readable) or (2) change the 'span's to 'div's >>> as in your proposed patch. >> >> Actually, I just found by experimentation that option (2) above doesn't >> work well in either Lynx or Dillo. Option (1) works well in the simple >> browsers I've tried so far, which are Lynx, Dillo, Netsurf, and Eww. >> >> Mark > > Friendly ping; it seems not much is missing to close this issue? :-). is still essentially unreadable in Emacs Eww and Lynx, as well as Dillo when CSS is disabled, because there are many missing line breaks. Thanks, Mark -- Disinformation flourishes because many people care deeply about injustice but very few check the facts. Ask me about . From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. 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[66.158.150.81]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r62sm2808705qkc.128.2021.05.20.12.23.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 May 2021 12:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Maxim Cournoyer References: <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> <87o8mk71f4.fsf@disroot.org> <87ft7k5x45.fsf@gmail.com> <87een4f571.fsf@netris.org> <874ko0xby5.fsf@elephly.net> <87wo0vbb46.fsf@netris.org> <87pn6nbafp.fsf@netris.org> <87mtspzfxp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mtspxte9.fsf@netris.org> Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 15:23:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mtspxte9.fsf@netris.org> (Mark H. Weaver's message of "Thu, 20 May 2021 12:26:59 -0400") Message-ID: <87lf89xl9n.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi, Mark H Weaver writes: > Hi Maxim, > > Maxim Cournoyer writes: > >> Mark H Weaver writes: >> >>> Earlier, I wrote: >>>> However, I've noticed that in Dillo with CSS disabled, generating a >>>> 'pre' for each line makes the line spacing larger than would be ideal. >>>> It seems that some vertical padding or margins are added around each >>>> 'pre'. It's likely that many browsers do this in their default styling >>>> for 'pre'. With this in mind, it would perhaps be better to wrap a >>>> single 'pre' around each message. Then you could either (1) leave the >>>> lines as 'span's and add a raw CR-LF after each line (which would make >>>> the HTML source code more readable) or (2) change the 'span's to 'div's >>>> as in your proposed patch. >>> >>> Actually, I just found by experimentation that option (2) above doesn't >>> work well in either Lynx or Dillo. Option (1) works well in the simple >>> browsers I've tried so far, which are Lynx, Dillo, Netsurf, and Eww. >>> >>> Mark >> >> Friendly ping; it seems not much is missing to close this issue? :-). > > is still essentially unreadable in > Emacs Eww and Lynx, as well as Dillo when CSS is disabled, because there > are many missing line breaks. OK, thanks for the update, Mark. Maxim From unknown Sun Sep 21 03:01:55 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Vitaliy Shatrov Subject: bug#43166: closed (The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m.) Message-ID: References: <87sfv1skir.fsf@elephly.net> <73F56D6B-6448-44C2-8EB9-23AE854AD4CF@disroot.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 43166 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 43166@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 18:26:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1639074362-26238-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1639074362-26238-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #43166: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 43166@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 43166: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D43166 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1639074362-26238-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 43166-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2021 18:25:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44763 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mvO70-0006oj-LC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 13:25:46 -0500 Received: from sender3-of-o50.zoho.com ([136.143.184.50]:21647) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mvO6y-0006oY-9Q for 43166-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2021 13:25:46 -0500 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1639074341; cv=none; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; b=P2SFUC/R0ukOT4bCQ6/FpFqgo4z3T0ydIcb9GOJV6BThU6GMq7oBCI6JSrfDKIlKpJGICTHP80Wvu6xGM0Qs/HhxnVRPtWPA+t/8Q0AyeicNYy1nN1AzVHmKE4P+YMN36NIS4nzAAy7a/asmI6wqd7HiD7XbHfF76rOh6WSqLS4= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zohomail.com; s=zohoarc; t=1639074341; h=Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Subject:To; bh=j7aID2rcvpzNllVZk+0BmY/alXfBvFOgCOhV7WRn7VQ=; b=UnKxu9KM6r/3EQXKq0mlGFoSVkCCXquJskdh8B6e5CGSPp37qjmBqHqFymRABZlt4C6kHSr29kVQvhMRK+w0Xisi/lni3Bs3csFNs1QBfTyPM64m3F6+EkNFi1a7929z+gHzgFcicBI/Vuwr6/QalZYziL7WoIwJU82rYILCnJ8= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.zohomail.com; dkim=pass header.i=elephly.net; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=rekado@elephly.net; dmarc=pass header.from= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1639074341; s=zoho; d=elephly.net; i=rekado@elephly.net; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; bh=j7aID2rcvpzNllVZk+0BmY/alXfBvFOgCOhV7WRn7VQ=; b=XKM81RCPfF5nW5PoZ2Z5RfyxbJ8qM79d81OJN3HdT9xl6NXNtHyJD3eTscEdfYR6 6h333r1XXt23ngSrfbCp5SzO6ctbqFhGhtcdjhednO3bRB5Xb7bowWWd+thq9GUw3Qu 9IJJaVhmaim3Eh+B2aKYjkClE4aELUdRCT7bWHR8= Received: from localhost (p54ad4dda.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.77.218]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 163907433667046.865118144204644; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 10:25:36 -0800 (PST) User-agent: mu4e 1.6.6; emacs 27.2 From: Ricardo Wurmus To: 43166-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 18:20:59 +0000 X-URL: https://elephly.net X-PGP-Key: https://elephly.net/rekado.pubkey X-PGP-Fingerprint: BCA6 89B6 3655 3801 C3C6 2150 197A 5888 235F ACAC Message-ID: <87sfv1skir.fsf@elephly.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ZohoMailClient: External X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43166-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is now fixed in mumi. I tested the change in eww and in icecat. This was easier to implement than when the bug was first reported. Due to later developments I could limit the use of =E2=80=9Cpre=E2=80=9D to lin= es in the =E2=80=9Cdiff=E2=80=9D context, so that message text can still be reflown. Sorry for the delay, but there was no way for me to take enough time to work on mumi before. You are all still more than welcome to contribute to mumi. I=E2=80=99m reconfiguring the server hosting issues.guix.gnu.org now, so th= is change will go live as soon as that=E2=80=99s done. --=20 Ricardo ------------=_1639074362-26238-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Sep 2020 05:15:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6p-0007Lj-NW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:15:00 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:36552) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6m-0007LY-1e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:58 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6l-0000Ph-Sx for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:55 -0400 Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:44418) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kDL6j-00055z-Bv for bug-guix@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2020 01:14:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89B6529AF for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 07:14:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J6ZqG-bXLZ1G for ; Wed, 2 Sep 2020 07:14:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 12:16:06 +0700 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1599023688; bh=M1Z69vQgyv64O9gJwHttXaaqXpn1Wl+/myTYA26s8WE=; h=Date:Subject:To:From; b=YhvLqK1HBBzdYyOZsxS9dre7wYFIxiYJCyJHI8i8n67ES6EsohZg3FYsolMWRySnX YX4HajETAggvqMHc7DNQV3BZeSPjbd63YuAPiYzCTa4JHJUHLNvU3Rycf78nFwPNCx 6o4dXiD8FtvPdi96Mnuc8Fze19fbojqsJn99e84WvdEk7W6/J4oQb7RzDCfPikY00n Ez2C5EGuUOU23SF5e46mX2CpsV8sQE4vEiC/Gkz10A9eeVs0AAnF8+Cs31lVybJho+ yYGT4xFqHoToMnqUhG9Ghgay/ffX95nY5ENBvsylEZT5zRhAA5e7GxWMZSE+P/1Co7 glNqHOvwewsEA== Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----X18RL59Q9YR8N6EVVEO9TXGQ9OUULQ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The issues.guix.gnu.org is hard to read in emacs-w3m. 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 elements
within.  Any idea what's going on?

Anyway, thanks again for fixing this issue in Mumi.

     Regards,
       Mark

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Hi Mark,

>> I=E2=80=99m reconfiguring the server hosting issues.guix.gnu.org now, so=
 this
>> change will go live as soon as that=E2=80=99s done.
>
> Hmm.  Your mail headers indicate that you wrote the words above more
> than 27 hours ago, but the problem persists on issues.guix.gnu.org.  I'm
> now looking at  with EWW, and the
> line breaks in the diffs are still missing, making the diffs unreadable.
> I also fetched the same URL with Wget, and there are no 
 elements
> within.  Any idea what's going on?

Yes, GC problems on berlin:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-guix/2021-12/msg00130.html

Pretty frustrating.  I only *just* got to reconfigure the machine and
restart mumi.  So it should really be fine now.

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Ricardo




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Hi Ricardo,

Ricardo Wurmus  writes:
> This is now fixed in mumi.  I tested the change in eww and in icecat.
>
> This was easier to implement than when the bug was first reported.  Due
> to later developments I could limit the use of =E2=80=9Cpre=E2=80=9D to l=
ines in the
> =E2=80=9Cdiff=E2=80=9D context, so that message text can still be reflown.

This is an enormous improvement, thank you!

However, in both EWW and Lynx, the embedded patches are rendered
double-spaced, i.e. there are empty lines inserted between every two
adjacent lines of every patch.  I guess that's because Mumi wraps each
individual line within its own 'pre' and 'div' elements, instead of
putting the entire patch within a single 'pre' element.

As a result, for users of EWW or Lynx, Mumi is still far inferior to the
web interface of Debian's bug tracking system (used by bugs.gnu.org).

Here's a sample of the HTML generated by Debbugs for a patch in
:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---

* guix/ui.scm (show-bug-report-information): Link to
<https://guix.gnu.org/help/&g=
t; instead of <https://www.gnu.=
org/gethelp/>.
The former is much more useful and includes links to GNU manuals.
---
 guix/ui.scm | 5 +++--
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/guix/ui.scm b/guix/ui.scm
index 4d90a47bb9..87a1925a4b 100644
--- a/guix/ui.scm
+++ b/guix/ui.scm
@@ -542,8 +542,9 @@ There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
 Report bugs to: ~a.") %guix-bug-report-address)
   (format #t (G_ "
 ~a home page: <~a>") %guix-package-name %guix-home-page-url)
-  (display (G_ "
-General help using GNU software: <http://www.gnu.org/gethelp/>"))
+  (format #t (G_ "
+General help using Guix and GNU software: <~a>")
+           "https://guix=
.gnu.org/help/")
   (newline))
=20
 (define (augmented-system-error-handler file)
--=20
2.28.0






--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Here's the corresponding HTML generated by Mumi for the same 'diff':
(I've added newlines and indentation to make it more readable, but in
fact there were no newlines in this portion of Mumi's HTML output)

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---


  
* guix/ui.scm (show-bug-report-information): =
Link to

  
https://guix.gnu.org/he=
lp/ instead of  https://www.gnu.org/gethelp/ .

  
The former is much more useful and includes links to GNU manua=
ls.

  
---

  
 guix/ui.scm | 5 +++--

  
 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

  





  Toggle diff (18 lines)
  
diff --git a/guix/ui.scm b/guix/ui.scm

  
index 4d90a47bb9..87a1925a4b 100644

  
--- a/guix/ui.scm

  
+++ b/guix/ui.scm

  
@@ -542,8 +542,9 @@ There is NO WARRANTY, to=
 the extent permitted by law.

  
 Report bugs to: ~a.") %guix-bug-report-address)

  
   (format #t (G_ "

  
 ~a home page: <~a>") %guix-package-name %gu=
ix-home-page-url)

  
-  (display (G_ "

  
-General help using GNU software: <htt=
p://www.gnu.org/gethelp/>"))

  
+  (format #t (G_ "

  
+General help using Guix and GNU software=
: <~a>")

  
+           "https://guix.gnu.org/he=
lp/")

  
   (newline))

  
 

  
 (define (augmented-system-error-handler file)

  
-- 

  
2.28.0



--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I don't know if enough people care about this, though.  I suppose there
are some advantages to Mumi's method of rendering patches, e.g. to
enable better CSS styling of patches for the majority of users who
prefer to do almost everything within a modern web browser.

In any case, Mumi is now usable in simple web browsers, and that's a
great improvement.  Thanks for taking the time to work on it, Ricardo.

     Regards,
       Mark

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Ricardo Wurmus writes:

> This is now fixed in mumi.  I tested the change in eww and in icecat.

Lovely, thank you!

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Hi Mark,

> However, in both EWW and Lynx, the embedded patches are rendered
> double-spaced, i.e. there are empty lines inserted between every two
> adjacent lines of every patch.  I guess that's because Mumi wraps each
> individual line within its own 'pre' and 'div' elements, instead of
> putting the entire patch within a single 'pre' element.

It does indeed wrap each line, because otherwise we can=E2=80=99t style the
lines e.g. to highlight additions with green and deletions with red.

People who use Emacs anyway will have Emacs apply its own fontification,
so that=E2=80=99s of no use to them.  But people who use Emacs would probab=
ly
want to use the Emacs interface to Debbugs anyway.

The extra spacing between lines as seen in EWW is not intentional, and I
did not see this in my local tests.  (Perhaps different patches render
differently in EWW?)  I=E2=80=99ll add this to my TODO list.

> As a result, for users of EWW or Lynx, Mumi is still far inferior to the
> web interface of Debian's bug tracking system (used by bugs.gnu.org).

Note that you can also view the raw messages.  Every message part has
its own link; following that link you can see the unstyled plain text
rendering.

There=E2=80=99s nothing wrong with the sample HTML you posted.  Yes, mumi=
=E2=80=99s is
more verbose than just wrapping text in 
=E2=80=A6
 because we need
more markup to tell browsers how to style the patch.

--=20
Ricardo




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Hi Ricardo,

Ricardo Wurmus  writes:

>> However, in both EWW and Lynx, the embedded patches are rendered
>> double-spaced, i.e. there are empty lines inserted between every two
>> adjacent lines of every patch.  I guess that's because Mumi wraps each
>> individual line within its own 'pre' and 'div' elements, instead of
>> putting the entire patch within a single 'pre' element.
>
> It does indeed wrap each line, because otherwise we can=E2=80=99t style t=
he
> lines e.g. to highlight additions with green and deletions with red.

I think I've found a way to fix the double-spacing problem in EWW and
Lynx without sacrificing styling: put the entire patch within a single
'pre' element, and then put each line within a 'span' element.  The
styling of each line can then be applied to the 'span's.

What do you think?

      Regards,
        Mark

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