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C-\ would work to switch my layout correctly, but pressing S-SPC even once to toggle to Korean layout would change the default layout to korean-hangul and necessitate a manual change back to korean-hangul3f using M-x set-input-method. I found out through language-info-alist that S-SPC is bound to toggle-korean-input-method, and used the function query to track this function to korea-util.el under lisp/language. As expected, the toggle-korean-input-method function set the default input method to korean-hangul regardless of user settings, so I redefined it from init.el to set the default-korean-keyboard as korean-hangul3f. Here's the code I used: (with-eval-after-load "language/korea-util" (defun toggle-korean-input-method () "Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the current butter." (interactive) (if current-input-method (deactivate-input-method) (activate-input-method) (concat "korean-hangul3f" default-korean-keyboard))))) This worked, but it took me a lot of time, frustration, and a crash course on the workings of Emacs. It seems to me the much more logical way for this function to work is to look for any relevant user configurations and setting the layout accordingly rather than statically setting the Korean layout. All this was after I had to redefine a different function because Korean layouts were not compatible with Dvorak layout, which I solved with the help of the patch here: https://blog.jamzattack.xyz/emacs-hangul-input.html Updating hangul.el as described there would solve the Dvorak-Korean incompatibility. I hope these suggestions will help in improving Emacs, which despite my short usage and the problems I ran into is a great, versatile program. Keep up the good work! With regards, L.J. --0000000000007fb78d05adecdae1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, I hope this finds you well! I have recently started us= ing Emacs and wanted to alert you to a really bedevilling problem I had wit= h Korean input and input method toggling, how I solved it, and suggestions = for improving it.

Long story short, I use the 3-beol-sik final layou= t (designated as korean-hangul3f on the emacs system) to type Korean and se= t it as my default input method in
init.el.

I was =C2=A0puzzled, = however, that my Korean layout
reverted to the more common 2-beol-sik (k= orean-hangul) whenever I
pressed S-SPC. C-\ would work to switch my layo= ut correctly, but
pressing S-SPC even once to toggle to Korean layout wo= uld change the
default layout to korean-hangul and necessitate a manual = change back to korean-hangul3f
using M-x set-input-method.

I foun= d out through language-info-alist that S-SPC is
bound to toggle-korean-i= nput-method, and used the function query to
track this function to korea= -util.el under lisp/language.

As expected, the toggle-korean-input-m= ethod function set the
default input method to korean-hangul regardless = of user settings, so I
redefined it from init.el to set the default-kore= an-keyboard as
korean-hangul3f. Here's the code I used:

(with= -eval-after-load "language/korea-util"
(defun toggle-korean-in= put-method ()
"Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the cu= rrent butter."
(interactive)
(if current-input-method
=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 (deactivate-input-method)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (activate-input-method)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (concat "korean-hangul3f" default-k= orean-keyboard)))))

This worked, but it took me a lot of time, frust= ration, and a crash course on the
workings of Emacs. It seems to me the = much more logical way for this
function to work is to look for any relev= ant user configurations
and setting the layout accordingly rather than s= tatically setting the Korean
layout.

All this was after I had to = redefine a different function because Korean
layouts were not compatible= with Dvorak layout, which I solved with the
help of the patch =C2=A0her= e: https://= blog.jamzattack.xyz/emacs-hangul-input.html Updating hangul.el as descr= ibed there would solve the Dvorak-Korean incompatibility.

I hope the= se suggestions will help in improving Emacs, which despite my
short usag= e and the problems I ran into is a great, versatile
program. Keep up the= good work!

With regards,

L.J.
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X-Gnus-Desktop: GNOME ('Ubuntu', '18.04', 'bionic') Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 22:04:51 +0900 In-Reply-To: (L. J. Lee's message of "Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:41:08 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43084 Cc: 43084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-CC: jihyun.jo@gmail.com "L.J. Lee" writes: > Hi, I hope this finds you well! I have recently started using Emacs and w= anted to alert you to a really bedevilling > problem I had with Korean input and input method toggling, how I solved i= t, and suggestions for improving it. > > Long story short, I use the 3-beol-sik final layout (designated as korean= -hangul3f on the emacs system) to type > Korean and set it as my default input method in > init.el. > > I was puzzled, however, that my Korean layout > reverted to the more common 2-beol-sik (korean-hangul) whenever I > pressed S-SPC. C-\ would work to switch my layout correctly, but > pressing S-SPC even once to toggle to Korean layout would change the > default layout to korean-hangul and necessitate a manual change back to k= orean-hangul3f > using M-x set-input-method. > > I found out through language-info-alist that S-SPC is > bound to toggle-korean-input-method, and used the function query to > track this function to korea-util.el under lisp/language. > > As expected, the toggle-korean-input-method function set the > default input method to korean-hangul regardless of user settings, so I > redefined it from init.el to set the default-korean-keyboard as > korean-hangul3f. Here's the code I used: > > (with-eval-after-load "language/korea-util" > (defun toggle-korean-input-method () > "Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the current butter." > (interactive) > (if current-input-method > (deactivate-input-method) > (activate-input-method) > (concat "korean-hangul3f" default-korean-keyboard))))) > > This worked, but it took me a lot of time, frustration, and a crash cours= e on the > workings of Emacs. It seems to me the much more logical way for this > function to work is to look for any relevant user configurations > and setting the layout accordingly rather than statically setting the Kor= ean > layout. > > All this was after I had to redefine a different function because Korean > layouts were not compatible with Dvorak layout, which I solved with the > help of the patch here: https://blog.jamzattack.xyz/emacs-hangul-input.h= tml Updating hangul.el as described there > would solve the Dvorak-Korean incompatibility. > > I hope these suggestions will help in improving Emacs, which despite my > short usage and the problems I ran into is a great, versatile > program. Keep up the good work! > > With regards, > > L.J. IMHO, i think we need to confirm of Jihyun(KLDP: sylphong) -- the author of korean-input-method in GNU Emacs [1]. Sincerely, Byung-Hee [1] https://kldp.org/node/91578 --=20 ^=EA=B3=A0=EB=A7=99=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4 _=E5=B8=83=E5=BE=B7=E5=A4=A9= =E4=B8=8B_ =EA=B0=90=EC=82=AC=ED=95=A9=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4_^))// From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 27 01:33:45 2021 Received: (at 43084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2021 06:33:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43473 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eOf-0006UX-8T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:33:45 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37294) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eOd-0006UF-SF for 43084@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:33:44 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iFb/KObD0zISgRSKyz314//U1zeEqQbd5KKPtvNUC5o=; b=hykneVxp6O+7E9Jr4DaFL54TLY P5sMPZlEW9CsYkWFHhdO6vLBecWrEwBXMbOIhhmyCdvfBdIq74seWa9huyl5VdF5Qu2A98hJ+eh66 kc55ojnOg1lLhz081ubIvsh+p9vkSG3hmO5gX6vNquzHV0VLs9OJKe7Sy5rAZX51H3Jg=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eOT-00035q-0U; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:33:37 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: "L.J. Lee" Subject: Re: bug#43084: toggle-korean-input-method, Korean with Dvorak References: X-Now-Playing: Richard Bone's _Third Noise Principle (Formative North American Electronica 1975-1984) (1)_: "Mambopolis" Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:33:31 +0100 In-Reply-To: (L. J. Lee's message of "Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:41:08 +0900") Message-ID: <87sg6m99dw.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "L.J. Lee" writes: > I was puzzled, however, that my Korean layout > reverted to the more common 2-beol-sik (korean-hangul) whenever I > pressed S-SPC. C-\ would work to switch my layout correctly, but > pressing S-SPC [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43084 Cc: 43084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "L.J. Lee" writes: > I was puzzled, however, that my Korean layout > reverted to the more common 2-beol-sik (korean-hangul) whenever I > pressed S-SPC. C-\ would work to switch my layout correctly, but > pressing S-SPC even once to toggle to Korean layout would change the > default layout to korean-hangul and necessitate a manual change back to > korean-hangul3f > using M-x set-input-method. > > I found out through language-info-alist that S-SPC is > bound to toggle-korean-input-method, and used the function query to > track this function to korea-util.el under lisp/language. > > As expected, the toggle-korean-input-method function set the > default input method to korean-hangul regardless of user settings, so I > redefined it from init.el to set the default-korean-keyboard as > korean-hangul3f. Here's the code I used: > > (with-eval-after-load "language/korea-util" > (defun toggle-korean-input-method () > "Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the current butter." > (interactive) > (if current-input-method > (deactivate-input-method) > (activate-input-method) > (concat "korean-hangul3f" default-korean-keyboard))))) I don't use the Korean input methods, so this is totally uninformed -- but looking at the code, your alteration seems to be the same as putting (setq default-korean-keyboard "3f") in your init file? In which case configuring this is already supported in Emacs. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 27 01:33:50 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2021 06:33:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eOk-0006Us-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:33:50 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:37308) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eOj-0006UQ-7P for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 01:33:49 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IdZqz2+RGqAGGfIIkEICYRCEeiWaQ1xlynZKhaCcYg0=; b=WGVkq/ptQtm3bcPtHTV6sfJ9Pu wJRV4Rcy1CsD0CkS6IM+Z7ncQFSkCjM85XUjEYgmCYQE72CP+RWIR8lmUPjDLCLZ9LKVPdeFUgBv9 cWoIgWNBjDq/mvbb/2MNFdbmt7Si3T5wXMK4BLp9wmqfQkmV3udHQgnap5bsZinlGtfM=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4eOb-00035x-Jw for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:33:43 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 07:33:40 +0100 Message-Id: <87r1m699dn.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #43084 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Lee" Subject: Re: bug#43084: toggle-korean-input-method, Korean with Dvorak References: <87sg6m99dw.fsf@gnus.org> <877dnwz6jn.fsf@gmail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEVHR1KPcI5SbqwS DxDIwMX///8rhAWZAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UBHQQyE3uJOxAAAAGcSURBVDjLhdKN ccIwDAVgxcoAcfEAxjCAEjFA3Gr/mfpkB0KP5OrLHYTPevIPNMTjQRtMH1D6eH6+xr8gJ5CXI8jh BG54DoHxLCj7ADTWcACer+G2QdgB+RmwvfMOHMpNywbC4QUK09JnZuGhxHrFWd0zQJ8wzTwmm4IZ 3VkaaIOofLdKA6AAsgrW5b9HFrOVR0DWBb1l1eC3oqrJWB0IwLrcdIxpLZmmAXHJQUa0EOykVmwy 00JCBkBdVl1Yg1XGGfC8Dg8HLAggrFiJfaE//gVjA9nA375LuU5KT8CihAUV4wogYWsQNsC0VP2Q fMW9AklCvltzyD2VJKCFUosy62AdWL15q7DwBoxQr5k3KEqth3gSK7U1GgW/nPEVhadDDCX0vZLE liR+1BZrwK2rONAV81lo8uDERN6zHftVPEv6OYi2xTy820oX8SYOPVU9i2QdLqS4g1StNvBZyY99 4AFfBdArfDyMejF6pPUNpEPb+R/Q9AY/ZrxnPUF0RMXlBTPtsbi4nz1rB1C8HMP7mM8gncBoJxDp LEp/AWosrWb/MSsPAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIxLTAxLTI5VDA0OjUwOjE4KzAwOjAw i7qUXgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0wMS0yOVQwNDo1MDoxOCswMDowMPrnLOIAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Don Cherry's _Brown Rice_: "Malkauns" Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:08:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877dnwz6jn.fsf@gmail.com> (L. J. Lee's message of "Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:54:52 +0900") Message-ID: <877dnwxrcf.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "L.J. Lee" writes: >>> (with-eval-after-load "language/korea-util" >>> (defun toggle-korean-input-method () >>> "Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the current butter." >>> (interactive) >>> (if current-input [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43084 Cc: 43084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "L.J. Lee" writes: >>> (with-eval-after-load "language/korea-util" >>> (defun toggle-korean-input-method () >>> "Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the current butter." >>> (interactive) >>> (if current-input-method >>> (deactivate-input-method) >>> (activate-input-method) >>> (concat "korean-hangul3f" default-korean-keyboard))))) >> >> I don't use the Korean input methods, so this is totally uninformed -- >> but looking at the code, your alteration seems to be the same as putting >> >> (setq default-korean-keyboard "3f") >> >> in your init file? >> >> In which case configuring this is already supported in Emacs. > > It doesn't, actually--your suggested method was what I tried at first, > because it's the normal way to do things. I'm just reading the code, and I don't quite understand why. `default-korean-keyboard' is (by default) "", so this: (defun toggle-korean-input-method () "Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the current buffer." (interactive) (if current-input-method (deactivate-input-method) (activate-input-method (concat "korean-hangul" default-korean-keyboard)))) means that we call (activate-input-method "korean-hangul") If `default-korean-keyboard' was "3f", then we'd call (activate-input-method "korean-hangul3f") You suggested this change: >>> (activate-input-method) >>> (concat "korean-hangul3f" default-korean-keyboard))))) and assuming that ")" after `activate-input-method' is a typo, that would mean that we call (activate-input-method "korean-hangul3f") which is identical to what we'd get if we set the variable to "3f". Or am I misreading the code or what you suggested? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 29 02:10:59 2021 Received: (at 43084) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jan 2021 07:10:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51018 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5Nvm-0006jW-MC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:10:59 -0500 Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:45264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l5Lm7-0000xw-Cu for 43084@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 23:52:51 -0500 Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id b8so4576521plh.12 for <43084@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:52:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=w9NYe85kYGr/+yguS3hWT6dQltwThULpYV09XE2BZUM=; b=puse/adBLxxdaaIbz8SJlO9zFja+t0o08Ps5B86v85DtnAqnf0CqtMQLjGXA1d8A1c hTDgSuLFHajk++5SU+Gm62SMVffvSJyGJ0gEuiR9TClvFB8DVuQwd1nPtPtUSOON9BAr Adl64FAL3PIK3qqL2umdMtAKQB5hb0pbxqO9rPhQd2V4WVOWOKukLeswYoPsZwBPmSJz vAiort5Qp22uZHumch+kNoZjwpRLrbzlo9Sar2h3EW+7vRIhxBGwOR9zFRNoosYujws6 kJMIef+cxQL9LFoSNVcT9QPAeiLF+2uXAEnqaZtRezeH2zzFo/YLR5WX+aoqdqHbg037 cPRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=w9NYe85kYGr/+yguS3hWT6dQltwThULpYV09XE2BZUM=; b=kAj9JqdyW4uk0afozCqtB/K25lQo/hCASa/HXxiTP6JInMBcmfWXs6oSueMhFritOt BRFVlwSr8WBJAPB0PYAoredpVAeVryrOhhkXnpEx9IrddM5CN25htTdwSuoQgAbEaljH bEZjIfj2SzSl0ARmoEVxATa2hfTWBVCZH4NsomPzFnF2RYTjHBpa+HHFtjbd4my8kfwa GcjySJLMaFuu9DVQLB6uBI+WIp9tE4/2pQFg3km3MGMVLl3ug681HEfj6xWHXRZYRmXb ks800Ij1YhPGWq15vdVdWQJdam861rNCvapPDHQ//yv0brkQmfxRBqzhW80wsubq6keQ a7+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5326/n+gkE9nY2nWd45MtTQgH3oYS3+7+dGEJR3bZ/NZkgt473tu bEkBx7EeC0BDrXs4k3zXlJZeIIO6wFc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwYHuKiBhcbKG/m6lwLf2S6gPDkdoRUTeD3TC94owYPUHLDfkfiumQFE916EI7jFAjmvQx0fQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:123:b029:dc:27b:3c62 with SMTP id 32-20020a1709020123b02900dc027b3c62mr2613812plb.16.1611895965159; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from arch.gmail.com ([116.41.211.209]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n15sm6197866pjk.57.2021.01.28.20.52.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 20:52:44 -0800 (PST) References: <87sg6m99dw.fsf@gnus.org> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 26.3 From: "L.J. Lee" To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#43084: toggle-korean-input-method, Korean with Dvorak In-reply-to: <87sg6m99dw.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 13:54:52 +0900 Message-ID: <877dnwz6jn.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43084 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 02:10:57 -0500 Cc: 43084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > "L.J. Lee" writes: > >> I was puzzled, however, that my Korean layout >> reverted to the more common 2-beol-sik (korean-hangul) whenever I >> pressed S-SPC. C-\ would work to switch my layout correctly, but >> pressing S-SPC even once to toggle to Korean layout would change the >> default layout to korean-hangul and necessitate a manual change back to >> korean-hangul3f >> using M-x set-input-method. >> >> I found out through language-info-alist that S-SPC is >> bound to toggle-korean-input-method, and used the function query to >> track this function to korea-util.el under lisp/language. >> >> As expected, the toggle-korean-input-method function set the >> default input method to korean-hangul regardless of user settings, so I >> redefined it from init.el to set the default-korean-keyboard as >> korean-hangul3f. Here's the code I used: >> >> (with-eval-after-load "language/korea-util" >> (defun toggle-korean-input-method () >> "Turn on or off a Korean text input method for the current butter." >> (interactive) >> (if current-input-method >> (deactivate-input-method) >> (activate-input-method) >> (concat "korean-hangul3f" default-korean-keyboard))))) > > I don't use the Korean input methods, so this is totally uninformed -- > but looking at the code, your alteration seems to be the same as putting > > (setq default-korean-keyboard "3f") > > in your init file? > > In which case configuring this is already supported in Emacs. It doesn't, actually--your suggested method was what I tried at first, because it's the normal way to do things. However, my setting didn't survive the first time I tried to switch between Korean and English using S-SPC because doing so triggered toggle-korean-input-method, which overrode my default-korean-keyboard setting (korean-hangul3f) and reset it to korean-hangul instead. Long story short, the toggle-korean-input-method is written to override user settings which is just Bad Code and should be changed. (Most Korean keyboard users wouldn't even notice, by the way, because most use korean-hangul and korean-hangul3f is a minority layout. It's probably why this error survived so long.) Regards, -- L.J. 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Lee" Subject: Re: bug#43084: toggle-korean-input-method, Korean with Dvorak References: <87sg6m99dw.fsf@gnus.org> <877dnwz6jn.fsf@gmail.com> <877dnwxrcf.fsf@gnus.org> <87pn1my3fp.fsf@gmail.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAJFBMVEUCAwQWLiguZUk1 iV1KlnNorJaLs6eQx7es2Mrb8OR9foD///93P9TBAAAAAWJLR0QLH9fEwAAAAAd0SU1FB+UBHwcA Fk7c7TwAAAGXSURBVDjLjZO9doIwGIaDW50Ap3ZSYgfGErgAEU/3SsCxU1svQGF0qYYb4Bi2unmX zRd+I3iOGXl4877fTxCqj2ZaxA2oONF3krLmOzJMfB8ENWCD4Ct5EFg1AItHgFaDKBlQrASIk1Pa MwcA/yvAIBVIbsCsUkB5LGuB3nqowDAdLEEkTboezqRVKHEn1jDApuM2cVsPzcCWMweBLIN3FRgT qWBdhWEIYC096ZG2wOb8jWDLw2UTAejSgF+2vtgFl9SAoSnSZmhUINsnmPgrr4mboy3/1M6z64WI JXn9aCr/GxcvBbpy7sP2LNd1IWj6dEAZGhdX38VuEHp13yvwfLDXoAi9tfAogbxqO7UX4EFDuqpS 6WA+ypG9cOWGemWB0EQRV9ORacwJ9DCg7+o8NCOQoEnVvgJSgmAX3yhwrYiZqqhATHepMijxoORk abjfdAfVKGi82bOM9xVx+ptnXFWUi8hO2R2QJfkQEI06qh4lgPllP8c+iAAk5x6QPee8fxVMSWTq K2gJeNYHKVzF2T0waA5X8X/c7Q0PlpjslwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0wMS0zMVQw NzowMDoyMiswMDowMJltWHMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMDEtMzFUMDc6MDA6MjIr MDA6MDDoMODPAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Rothko's _A Negative For Francis_: "It Goes Outwards" Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 08:13:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87pn1my3fp.fsf@gmail.com> (L. J. Lee's message of "Sat, 30 Jan 2021 22:11:54 +0900") Message-ID: <87wnvtvasp.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: "L.J. Lee" writes: > So I changed my settings to test this and you were right! > >> (setq default-korean-keyboard "3f") > > worked without having to change the toggle-korean-input-method function. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 43084 Cc: 43084@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "L.J. Lee" writes: > So I changed my settings to test this and you were right! > >> (setq default-korean-keyboard "3f") > > worked without having to change the toggle-korean-input-method function. Thanks for testing. > However, now I think there's a problem of documentation and > discoverability. Yup. I've now mentioned the variable in the doc strings of all the functions that use the variable, which should allow it to be discovered more easily. 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