From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 07 14:32:58 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2020 18:32:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57584 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k47Ao-0004Kj-Mh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:32:58 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60004) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k47Ak-0004KZ-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:32:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34632) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k47Ak-0004OW-Fo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:32:54 -0400 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:58350) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k47Ai-0007fH-FI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:32:54 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 077IIaGe143292 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:32:47 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=d4JfSm7ZPcJb1GGzD7soYeU1u4M/TVwUWv42URsbobA=; b=xhWV5t0Mv9U5Q6LZQtg0ArOKXPyDdl9JIAkXorPVdvmnDBdqKZUjzlBto8elyz+Cobmb wyTZ9tPWrCBUDW7ynwranLxXiOFUPG+4j837LHnSpT5y/LZ/7AOuyGSgSC/Yytp1jriQ +H1HhZ0BnrLg7Qp8INadvMl+av/V/II3XhiT399l7Yh5GY/0k9+nIAVzenq/I2907jgN T7k3QYfiWigL7sLSG0soePWixDoJlk1Yfl1XOsB25KIpXkxyhkdMR++70aHfVUJKw7gN K1/cWS0EzhD0wqvoio5zQL5hPSY8fz+eOH28ntnMXk72Lq7dVTjT+kNaNR+BanJebuVI Ug== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 32r6fxt2b6-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 18:32:46 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 077IJ3U3122324 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:30:46 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 32pdp1cf9f-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 18:30:46 +0000 Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 077IUjr1010354 for ; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:30:45 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <37a80580-2c4d-4591-b506-d4bbff3912f3@default> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.3; Elisp manual, `Lambda Components' and `Defining Functions' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5017.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9706 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008070130 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9706 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=1 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008070130 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=156.151.31.85; envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=userp2120.oracle.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/07 14:32:50 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -53 X-Spam_score: -5.4 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) In the Elisp manual, I looked for doc describing a lambda list, to point a user to it. I tried `i lambda list', which took me to `Lambda Components'. But there's nothing there that explains the lambda list `(ARG-VARIABLES...)'. And no link to any doc that explains/describes it. I tried `i defun', which took me to `Defining Functions'. But again, there's nothing there that explains ARGS (syntax, meanings, etc.). And no link to any doc that explains/describes that argument list. Finally, I tried `i arg TAB', and used `argument lists, features', which took me to `Argument List', which provides the description. This is also what's typically called a "lambda list", FWIW. Please provide links from the first two topics to topic `Argument List', or otherwise provide the missing descriptions of `(ARG-VARIABLES...)' and ARGS. In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18362 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 07 14:41:02 2020 Received: (at 42750) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Aug 2020 18:41:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57594 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k47Ib-0004WU-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:41:01 -0400 Received: from userp2120.oracle.com ([156.151.31.85]:54040) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k47Ia-0004WG-6M for 42750@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 14:41:00 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 077IcJE6172651 for <42750@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:40:54 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=DxnuOivXQvG3abBpJezhoVZCNvOX40uB/fXVDlAqZzM=; b=qd7YCxU9Sae33FLcMgiEe9+wwjGKf/Ag/EmGKBcTHYHb9rwfpjU0mM4mfu4swQjOu8dv n9qDKld1hpwPYClvtUshnNUsri/PIN3fMJGImRHLAe1NruDDy7qsa7mJ1x4Iiu361cNh Kg/VrmDa1LLRt4GIeJGpJ4bIJ0QmHHhFlRBMr0RIQjsPms4VQmqVC3JFZOKRtmBUX+oz HM/pSJh1tYYT0N3CJhtC3Q+Hy9xFIdIq2eUE+9zWoC3XzpeXdhQjMnlY5CG1lBJ7Hho3 zW84Gh7I4t/eyx7j5jOpYrKIu5zkjqqrd+QkDqoypIGrOoiIyFUj9zi+Eu0iYzCufTsP iQ== Received: from aserp3020.oracle.com (aserp3020.oracle.com [141.146.126.70]) by userp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 32r6fxt3ft-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <42750@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 18:40:54 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 077Id4kO186204 for <42750@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:40:53 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 32pdp1d7j4-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <42750@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 07 Aug 2020 18:40:53 +0000 Received: from abhmp0004.oracle.com (abhmp0004.oracle.com [141.146.116.10]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 077IepG3011798 for <42750@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 7 Aug 2020 18:40:52 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <53ef5130-7352-40f3-975f-7aef7bf3c8aa@default> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:40:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: 42750@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: bug#42750: 26.3; Elisp manual, `Lambda Components' and `Defining Functions' References: <37a80580-2c4d-4591-b506-d4bbff3912f3@default> In-Reply-To: <37a80580-2c4d-4591-b506-d4bbff3912f3@default> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5017.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9706 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=13 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=616 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008070131 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9706 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 priorityscore=1501 mlxlogscore=642 phishscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=13 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2008070131 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42750 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Also, the name of topic/node `Argument List' that's written in the node itself is `Other Features of Argument Lists'. That seems wrong. The content of the node is not "other" features about argument lists; it's just argument lists. As it says, it specifies "the complete syntax for an argument list". Complete, not just some "other". IMO it should be called `Argument List' or `Lambda List' or some such. It doesn't matter that it follows an introductory `Simple Lambda' node, whose full title is anyway `A Simple Lambda Expression Example'. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 13 10:10:19 2020 Received: (at 42750-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Aug 2020 14:10:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6Dvu-0006Ku-VH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:10:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k6Dvt-0006Ke-4D for 42750-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:10:18 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k6Dvn-0008HQ-KN; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:10:11 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4802 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1k6Dvm-0002ac-H6; Thu, 13 Aug 2020 10:10:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 17:10:02 +0300 Message-Id: <837du2mybp.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-Reply-To: <37a80580-2c4d-4591-b506-d4bbff3912f3@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#42750: 26.3; Elisp manual, `Lambda Components' and `Defining Functions' References: <37a80580-2c4d-4591-b506-d4bbff3912f3@default> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42750-done Cc: 42750-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > > Please provide links from the first two topics to topic `Argument List', > or otherwise provide the missing descriptions of `(ARG-VARIABLES...)' > and ARGS. Thanks, done. > Also, the name of topic/node `Argument List' > that's written in the node itself is `Other > Features of Argument Lists'. That seems wrong. Fixed. From unknown Thu Aug 14 12:21:06 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator