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retitle 42535 28.0.50; macOS test failure: echo-server-with-dns
reassign 42535 emacs
submitter 42535 Philipp
severity 42535 normal
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This is another follow-up to bug#30700, this time about the test
echo-server-with-dns.
Test echo-server-with-dns backtrace:
make-network-process(:name "server" :server t :noquery t :family ipv
make-server("p")
#f(compiled-function () #)()
ert--run-test-internal(#s(ert--test-execution-info :test #s(ert-test
ert-run-test(#s(ert-test :name echo-server-with-dns :documentation n
ert-run-or-rerun-test(#s(ert--stats :selector (not ...) :tests [...
ert-run-tests((not (or (tag :expensive-test) (tag :unstable))) #f(co
ert-run-tests-batch((not (or (tag :expensive-test) (tag :unstable)))
ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit((not (or (tag :expensive-test) (tag :un
eval((ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit '(not (or (tag :expensive-test) (
command-line-1(("-L" ":." "-l" "ert" "-l" "lisp/net/network-stream-t
command-line()
normal-top-level()
Test echo-server-with-dns condition:
(error "p/0 nodename nor servname provided, or not known")
FAILED 8/27 echo-server-with-dns (0.006517 sec)
In this case, this might be an issue with the macOS firewall: 'make
check' results in a few prompts whether incoming connections should be
accepted, and I've declined these prompts.
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Subject: Re: bug#42535: 28.0.50; macOS test failure: echo-server-with-dns
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>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 20:39:37 +0200, Philipp said:
Philipp> This is another follow-up to bug#30700, this time about the test
Philipp> echo-server-with-dns.
Philipp> Test echo-server-with-dns backtrace:
Philipp> make-network-process(:name "server" :server t :noquery t :family ipv
Philipp> make-server("p")
Philipp> #f(compiled-function () #)()
Philipp> ert--run-test-internal(#s(ert--test-execution-info :test #s(ert-test
Philipp> ert-run-test(#s(ert-test :name echo-server-with-dns :documentation n
Philipp> ert-run-or-rerun-test(#s(ert--stats :selector (not ...) :tests [...
Philipp> ert-run-tests((not (or (tag :expensive-test) (tag :unstable))) #f(co
Philipp> ert-run-tests-batch((not (or (tag :expensive-test) (tag :unstable)))
Philipp> ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit((not (or (tag :expensive-test) (tag :un
Philipp> eval((ert-run-tests-batch-and-exit '(not (or (tag :expensive-test) (
Philipp> command-line-1(("-L" ":." "-l" "ert" "-l" "lisp/net/network-stream-t
Philipp> command-line()
Philipp> normal-top-level()
Philipp> Test echo-server-with-dns condition:
Philipp> (error "p/0 nodename nor servname provided, or not known")
Philipp> FAILED 8/27 echo-server-with-dns (0.006517 sec)
Philipp> In this case, this might be an issue with the macOS firewall: 'make
Philipp> check' results in a few prompts whether incoming connections should be
Philipp> accepted, and I've declined these prompts.
The test also assumes that (system-name) results in a resolvable name,
which is not always true (you can stick an entry in /etc/hosts to make
it true).
Robert
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Robert Pluim writes:
> The test also assumes that (system-name) results in a resolvable name,
> which is not always true (you can stick an entry in /etc/hosts to make
> it true).
It's supposed to test DNS, though -- is there something that'll be more
reliable than (system-name)? (Not that it's reliable, but... more. :-))
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> This is another follow-up to bug#30700, this time about the test
> echo-server-with-dns.
[...]
> In this case, this might be an issue with the macOS firewall: 'make
> check' results in a few prompts whether incoming connections should be
> accepted, and I've declined these prompts.
Is that something we can test for, though? If you've set up your
machine to not accept network connections from itself, then you'd think
all of the network tests would fail (and should be skipped).
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>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2020 16:12:03 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said:
Lars> Robert Pluim writes:
>> The test also assumes that (system-name) results in a resolvable name,
>> which is not always true (you can stick an entry in /etc/hosts to make
>> it true).
Lars> It's supposed to test DNS, though -- is there something that'll be more
Lars> reliable than (system-name)? (Not that it's reliable, but... more. :-))
localhost? But the next test already checks that. Is anyone still
running any public echo servers?
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> localhost? But the next test already checks that. Is anyone still
> running any public echo servers?
Isn't localhost hard-coded to 127.0.0.1/::1 and doesn't use the resolver
at all?
> If what you really want to test is "does DNS work", then
> src/process-tests.el already does that with 'network-lookup-address-info',
> which shares the actual lookup code with 'make-network-process'.
No, I think that code really wants to check whether we can make a
network process work with DNS, because that's a different code path than
just network-lookup-address-info + make-network-process.
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>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2020 16:39:02 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said:
Lars> Robert Pluim writes:
>> localhost? But the next test already checks that. Is anyone still
>> running any public echo servers?
Lars> Isn't localhost hard-coded to 127.0.0.1/::1 and doesn't use the resolver
Lars> at all?
Yes.
>> If what you really want to test is "does DNS work", then
>> src/process-tests.el already does that with 'network-lookup-address-info',
>> which shares the actual lookup code with 'make-network-process'.
Lars> No, I think that code really wants to check whether we can make a
Lars> network process work with DNS, because that's a different code path than
Lars> just network-lookup-address-info + make-network-process.
Then either we need to accept that this test can fail on some systems,
or we risk calling the wrath of down upon us by
putting one of their public servers in the test. Or we just use www.gnu.org
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> Then either we need to accept that this test can fail on some systems,
> or we risk calling the wrath of down
> upon us by putting one of their public servers in the test. Or we just
> use www.gnu.org
We can't use anything external -- that'd fail a lot more than using
(system-name).
But we should just disable this test if (system-name) doesn't resolve.
That should be easy enough to check for.
(network-lookup-address-info (system-name))
=> ([127 0 1 1 0])
So reasonable values here would be 127 as the first octet on ipv4...
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From: Robert Pluim
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Subject: Re: bug#42535: 28.0.50; macOS test failure: echo-server-with-dns
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>>>>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2020 17:02:14 +0200, Lars Ingebrigtsen said:
Lars> Robert Pluim writes:
>> Then either we need to accept that this test can fail on some system=
s,
>> or we risk calling the wrath of down
>> upon us by putting one of their public servers in the test. Or we ju=
st
>> use www.gnu.org
Lars> We can't use anything external -- that'd fail a lot more than usi=
ng
Lars> (system-name).
Lars> But we should just disable this test if (system-name) doesn't res=
olve.
Lars> That should be easy enough to check for.=20=20
Lars> (network-lookup-address-info (system-name))
Lars> =3D> ([127 0 1 1 0])
Lars> So reasonable values here would be 127 as the first octet on ipv4=
...
Why restrict yourself to IPv4?
(network-lookup-address-info (system-name))
=3D> ([0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0] [127 0 0 1 0])
Note that strictly speaking this doesn=CA=BCt test DNS, since in my case
it=CA=BCs just looking in /etc/hosts, but it does test the resolver.
Robert
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> Why restrict yourself to IPv4?
>
> (network-lookup-address-info (system-name))
> =3D> ([0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0] [127 0 0 1 0])
Sure. So if the first octet is 0 or 127, then we have a resolving
(system-name)? I'm not sure what the rules are on ipv6 for localhost...
> Note that strictly speaking this doesn=CA=BCt test DNS, since in my case
> it=CA=BCs just looking in /etc/hosts, but it does test the resolver.
Yes, but from make-network-process's point of view, that doesn't make
any difference, I think...
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On Aug 04 2020, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Robert Pluim writes:
>
>> Why restrict yourself to IPv4?
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>> => ([0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0] [127 0 0 1 0])
>
> Sure. So if the first octet is 0 or 127, then we have a resolving
> (system-name)?
(system-name) can also resolve to a real IP.
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>> Sure. So if the first octet is 0 or 127, then we have a resolving
>> (system-name)?
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> (system-name) can also resolve to a real IP.
Yeah, but we don't really need to run this test on all machines in the
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