From unknown Thu Aug 14 20:52:56 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#4242 <4242@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#4242 <4242@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: [Orgmode] can't see emphasized text in org Reply-To: bug#4242 <4242@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 03:52:56 +0000 retitle 4242 [Orgmode] can't see emphasized text in org reassign 4242 emacs submitter 4242 nicholas.dokos@hp.com severity 4242 normal thanks From nick@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org Sun Aug 23 15:34:33 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Aug 2009 22:34:33 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=4.0 tests=GMAIL autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7NMYUhu024069 for ; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:34:33 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MfLdu-0001Fk-Ce for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:34:30 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MfLdo-0001Ak-Pf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:34:29 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50733 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MfLdo-0001Ab-KC; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:34:24 -0400 Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net ([206.46.173.15]:60358) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MfLdo-00054p-7B; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:34:24 -0400 Received: from gamaville.dokosmarshall.org ([98.110.172.159]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KOU00DOWP7ITR76@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net>; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:31:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gamaville.dokosmarshall.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gamaville.dokosmarshall.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F2534002; Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:30:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Daniel Goldin , Nick Bell , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Nick Dokos Cc: nicholas.dokos@hp.com, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-to: nicholas.dokos@hp.com Subject: Re: [Orgmode] can't see emphasized text in org In-reply-to: Message from Daniel Goldin of "Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:10:52 PDT." <20090823211052.GB8346@dg> References: <20090823183402.GB20401@dg> <4A918D71.4030809@nickbell.org> <20090823211052.GB8346@dg> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.2; GNU Emacs 23.1.50 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:30:57 -0400 Message-id: <28056.1251066657@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> Sender: nick@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) Daniel Goldin wrote: > On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Nick Bell wrote: > > > Daniel Goldin wrote: > >> Non-programmer-type can't see markup like /this/ as emphasized. I > >> looked through manual and searched web but found no answer. Any > >> thoughts? > > Are you using a font which has a separate italic form? Try switching > > to a font which you know does, such as Courier New. > > > > Now wait for an expert to come along. > > > Doesn't help, I'm afraid. > I've seen this problem before and I never chased it down but when I saw Nick Bell's idea, I figured that's got to be it. It *almost* works but not quite (as Daniel found out). If you enter /italic/ in an org buffer, place your cursor in there and say M-x describe-text-properties, you get: ,---- | Text content at position 48: | | | There are text properties here: | face (italic) | font-lock-multiline t | fontified t `---- You can then M-x describe-face italic . For me, that had the :underline attribute set, and the :slant attribute unset. If you customize the face, set the :slant attribute (e.g. to italic) and unset the :underline attribute and *then* change to a font that provides an italic form, then /italic/ is indeed italicized. The problem seems to be in faces.el: ,---- | (defface italic | '((((supports :slant italic)) | :slant italic) | (((supports :underline t)) | :underline t) | (t | ;; default to italic, even it doesn't appear to be supported, | ;; because in some cases the display engine will do it's own | ;; workaround (to `dim' on ttys) | :slant italic)) | "Basic italic face." | :group 'basic-faces) `---- which apparently looked at my default font[1], found that it does not support italics but does support underlines and set the attributes accordingly. *Why* it falls back to underlining is probably a question that should be addressed to the emacs developers, but it looks like a bug to me (hence copied to the emacs bugs list - version info appended[2]) HTH, Nick [1] I have (set-default-font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-120-100-100-c-90-iso8859-1") in my .emacs. I think this is what used to be called "9x15" at some point in the past, but I'm really not sure. [2] Version info: GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.9) of 2009-08-09 on gamaville.dokosmarshall.org Org-mode version 6.29trans (release_6.29c.55.ga48f) From rgm@gnu.org Mon Aug 24 14:38:30 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Aug 2009 21:38:31 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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