From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 16 20:56:48 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2020 00:56:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56275 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwEg8-0007MA-No for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 20:56:48 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:45916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwEDB-0004Vk-O2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 20:26:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jwEDB-0007l4-7v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 20:26:49 -0400 Received: from sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.148]:35386) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jwED9-00061g-3Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 20:26:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1594945603; bh=Em14b71Ihz/hmHstL8l2K9mbTTeUUvCQ2WqsKytWb+0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:From:Subject; b=U0SFtBG4/7Rxj2ihoaNGyGSavo80umPvBECIedEolRrbYsS+dumOE5EK13NR01TbCfwZw20FI4G3M5l3Sj5ynA+UbFjwh0PZyRowQaNJxk8gVUuvtDPcd6a/fLwPMPPIIEQfIj4TXIu6Ai58OdgL0wSsWPn9J6H3Fy98nA1rv8ZIh391Nu7mlIQJKkvibMqUfFbsDCRbP+c5kvnH20240NbMNVn0204jqkbZbbmoxPKYkW6GY1w1pN3TcsVeiv4ylfm6x3a5oFHMC7Yry0h7QJDgV0DfY7+P4AorHJpDkyL3uVY72cV0gRue99cBSOCPoi2uRXyoJIcfUaf100u28g== X-YMail-OSG: Csbxe_kVM1kjWZ7SDvY8QdswACB5lD5SuDktNj3eopPLfeuFceOdTQdVtALoim_ GvI9qVN7DjDftf..LkOWwZX6Dmqc_1Wsq_jfR3zwStSD1kN5XPgkoBkNGdATVqGoFnsAsFpl.Mlm YuMcOxFhqtVULr3u3R_3817kon_Ut2oK4ekPX5qaY_5kTjO032lyxBo_Mk6JgepusvsvU7utfD5K YZq.QkfOvx.O4d0vvsIv6cDCc4W9jHrkKAyxSQpV9vAWjLtzuDgYAlT6BqH2GanBdBew5xbpbBWK 2Nck7Zskn81s.k96IUdxhFXLl4CIQHyRbtW.U5X9CJIFcYWPBuRqEtgbRdp0w1X1tWjtN1uMt8nU QGM30NJ26HQBIHo4Dq2MbJhW2ZKEQNkwu19gO_K8Q0lNiBrS7GX8eu1pWIdQv29sWG2aGzTR_zs9 andqZXMjmO4TK6ZwgXGDKBW5Dvx4.EaaONrIp6UjKafbHXCjZzOaM_Q96YumaJyrvgW6nmgJGlUS HTSGvLbOwdxiY2XlIzuDB8tgMOlFrrvvofTnayBl.gaNLufRNZeo1Ur2hhDNPtBIGMvalWP_Z7nj Lau2ZXumrANQjvzNAGtUmusM6zExIozQGO3RzwiuKTbEEA31Yf3rfOIhKJEwJcjUBMJj0Jjm2qeB O86sqWdd5Q._8BSy8n_.PtFmQbw4WmeAT_hKbnaciEgTkBWzP812bKzNA_xfA2SQTGHuqAw7oK5D BT_sFYsteIjfm6OOKw.99tohrWuYXWZmBh8LQ3Srv.ettpIzL9rTxwrk1VbF6MeOZGDMXwIBpxwT zXgIcWGpNSoNE2TRara8.xXH3GY.oQjNemPNBtXuXzuaB9pxws7NPq6mVP2A5HJEp8Xf6Hpw4mIK _K9evigzvYRAT3mqs9NcbXlGC1wxHKwTKXJZcI4NJ67xY2u97YpxIf1omkufDva_dm3bQMtR2Nou h5vzvOVjnqzHkp0uwC1FKEY.y0RaODu629_KI1tTK3U1kpsi_d1RUYTtdsXTxFORSdwRhJi17lKA bHX3dEFyAxmYUebT6pGILkI2jYHKimyL4xBvxxLmkGMLUDAK_gu5Xny5grjV1GRWy7YqVuCZIrwj yKUFtaBS_17hdMXuDDRgRdvYxY1z0dZCiwdv8NGQPH41DOVdRsAsrXfzpnNYDOi81UMCqR_1dEld aUefiq.ZcjpPvI6kpNFvr1gKKFTORb5dE9RqbW.lZhYBbPar_S57R0ycsoyIjBgq3u0pbO_rUvst Q4BQiZTJcdobD5tUk9y0DMb64Lk9aNR6pGxMbo2SkAOVVSmHeLP7jGMpSzyCEbQzsJ7rB8aLQwfm HAXRRs_o6ZK3DmlSBKNhsy0IAW211BBqBuMvLLfAY0K8vtyAfBdWh.XdRuDopW9O0egkC4sslP5V ZJp6823J486pg3w-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic309.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 00:26:43 +0000 Received: by smtp432.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 198d2c9c311f2c8b6e326f03ad7b8d7f; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 00:26:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:26:40 +0800 Message-ID: <87y2nj7zr3.fsf@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain References: <87y2nj7zr3.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16271 hermes_yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) Content-Length: 1047 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic309-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/16 20:26:43 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -30 X-Spam_score: -3.1 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 20:56:43 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without appropriate aliases. Reacting to the latest ridiculousness occuring in society is already stupid, but breaking backwards compatibility for them is even worse. The term `slave' used in the `gnus-slave' sense has no connotations towards racism or slavery. Similarly, the term `gnus-child' has no connotations towards adult-ism or child 'oppression', if we ever get to that. Instead of changing things at random, why don't we just stick with one name that works? I doubt it's possible to find any term that doesn't become offensive at one point. (P.S: I'm asian and I find the face `term-color-yellow' offensive /s) In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 466, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.98.5, cairo version 1.17.3) of 2020-07-14 built on local-build-system Repository revision: a3f4f737ce2d31b143586ded6697e910248dfb87 Repository branch: mashup Windowing system distributor 'The GNU project's GTK toolkit.', version 3.98.5 System Description: Fedora 32 (Workstation Edition) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 16 21:06:59 2020 Received: (at 42401) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2020 01:06:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56282 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwEq3-0007cS-Gh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 21:06:59 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwEq0-0007cA-Cm for 42401@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 21:06:57 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4Q2ZXY9YGVApZgq2bddnKCJ+KJeV3cd1UrYesbz2G0U=; b=Bhr7oVMqcSu0EIHvs/Hu5vZ+Hw stL5u3rM8m8gIhp0YUKrjpgeogrGveL75Fx/ZY5Hvz0zdFtYkOzpDt/+VFHmaaBSBEbpf1a/4uvf3 inTDkgGbWXcfCv9J7KXr9zlF+1p2hxdbomT/Dc+kLqrlNle8kivdCOuFWFVPsX1O8bR0=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jwEpr-0004sJ-DL; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:06:50 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: 42401@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#42401: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child References: <87y2nj7zr3.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87y2nj7zr3.fsf@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:06:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y2nj7zr3.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu via's message of "Fri, 17 Jul 2020 08:26:40 +0800") Message-ID: <87r1tbospl.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without > appropriate aliases. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42401 Cc: Po Lu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" writes: > For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without > appropriate aliases. 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Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text > editors" writes: > >> For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without >> appropriate a [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42401 Cc: Po Lu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text > editors" writes: > >> For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without >> appropriate aliases. > > What are the missing aliases? Ah, I see that the invocations I was using for autoloading the aliases didn't work for interactive commands? I've now redone this stuff with just calls to make-obsolete, which seems to work for me. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 17 06:31:44 2020 Received: (at 42401) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2020 10:31:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwNeZ-0000dc-3G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 06:31:44 -0400 Received: from sonic316-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.187.148]:36835) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwLDo-0005G6-MR for 42401@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:55:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1594972549; bh=kCnLEMU+gUuvmALKyjExi6yVLA+xoUrqZ0ZJ7m82l7E=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=i6dAuUDIPQ1STY4Z/m1X2F/2dQC7imCpmy2HT4+5RY2FrOOWRRFDQCVPnd6USQmFkhuTS6/zQ+l1U/DpP4SZmMaMD+fZBVc350e6+b3ezpaHJx/ssL1aPjC5KjRuYbe0+sYgwo31j9OkXlCGRxzZDySn/Gib3vpx89snkDERfVM0irPDbFwkxRWC5Qrrn2ZMMBmIsxp/t+R4ch++vCaGGQGu2MHB7UhA8/kcVTanbfkwZfzsdnAv+mL5OjNLbum9cDJA1b5lS/rzFSj0m0jRoaI4kAC774zzQtiYn2EQacosQQX5N2MNARWSiXa+JmI2HbgUwPLrj0rQHBlUM8xmDw== X-YMail-OSG: dWgZga4VM1kfwvoLH0afYwyrywAUaw6iiRm8KfLwL.PUxsyY6WPo3Z53zM8G5Mc pEjaSK7KOtYD1sE1iakFMYscX9HawAr7Z66UdC7vMc0oD4OI3ZTydT_8mJgqCqVYF4GuxmfV_1Tu RimsXs633jbVIub.DfHFY6O5dzKKXZKIniHedPfy2ETNlbwqjvagI68FGbRc1JAcctWHcOGLXe8e z8tnmCSMo6G3gWXtYrSG5C26mPNHkrWIeJtkCJzfnQ2DS90V.m0w8eIiFtJiKlFfTamFBF2iAiH9 vdQRzTHXxthEYpzwxczmqYsA5wSW1wFDnIiOA90oep4YtFclvCf3eGQC_HmGWMR_n84owTPyk_1Q L9Q6udzC1DN7ugb45atxyXbL8yieFRi7Er4uWzeiW1EvJJ6k7qfw6_0Zcef1cwkbAHR8.DMK_38A jmw3hXQlwUFkowy6uMXBg7pw1Wbxky5.3crzD.2U1wGQHYX_AEusdGe6Fi.v2NQ5YS_2HE5sIwwF I.UM8.crXRQcrEvHPYmnqdyFOgIyUfJiSGvqF9KY.kra0ru6LxqtDr1IAjMsPG6yIcwuxwBjk2Au UtjMbPijpNLTEPwznSlaAxO_f.Zw1w7ulKTddzn5Gw55OIYz1EDciNgQXU4xNjZO8Yj6SumdnJgs c3Ty.ejdPAuF6ywAfKZvKRSnVK.Whxnv9TsDq7EIvhoA1m.cf7P9IUj1hyUNXPsfJns2J7JJnxQw q1t1T5YssEM_g5WvuEeXXlbFJOW0Q957ompvXkNqO7oV_PYDqwQIaZ1ZQNB6TaDA.6ljguUJMU5Z 8RI1fKIFMCx50o51tSzUge0mBwt9uo.5MrCPDyU.Co4qCphVk1uqEXx2MMVyv4K__41S.3apZ5K5 KBx6SnHtEtldtV_QnjiuzSyHx39_j6lRaVT2Vq04Z9a0y56NOslAtMlaNxweDFlW7QXYXATHQg_1 bwZKH9jFQSOKRqD_l.ZCrK.05xRoutl6rRqG6DI9qjBPHFmAXAj35fBA_y0tESTQQSRAombTGb1o FW1rydiWG6NBiWZt_rMle.R9uVVEN02f0wS_eDPxDqHNwlpy5l35brbuTn1VGlaMtOYfyMOBRH.m 7O1rABWTJ7PEzzoBXIdDedQrDGhd332A8FCJvs111jQNixJn1MfV.U.6Bn3uAml3qFP7GKvQZtae VvgH.NjQHMMgnQ37k.Sok4oQ3a8HbKJX3Qs05Ws7.mi5lGpiLrZ4rzoe9pftAEjj5Fpj83PbGr3J It87Tzn4_MMh1ermVKVjUwPUR2Sml339riaoGvuu8mR8xI6xApeiIkqTDNQjw50HY33Jircf7nKg GqGos2lF8ZT7F9QTKKDw9laEFeUURcU6IQypVSxaULEDa5MSzdb0Vxd1yTTrB3qA8X1FPtG3SnTq 5v7ei_NINhRnTZEir9RxUl_hK Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic316.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 07:55:49 +0000 Received: by smtp424.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fbd6ae6f2d4ff52ccc9d775f33c1ee7a; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 07:55:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Po Lu To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#42401: 28.0.50; gnus-slave renamed to gnus-child References: <87y2nj7zr3.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87y2nj7zr3.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r1tbospl.fsf@gnus.org> <877dv2q4sx.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:55:44 +0800 In-Reply-To: <877dv2q4sx.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 17 Jul 2020 04:00:14 +0200") Message-ID: <87r1ta8tj3.fsf@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16271 hermes_yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.7) Content-Length: 717 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42401 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 06:31:41 -0400 Cc: 42401@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text >> editors" writes: >> >>> For some reason, gnus-slave has been renamed to gnus-child without >>> appropriate aliases. >> >> What are the missing aliases? > > Ah, I see that the invocations I was using for autoloading the aliases > didn't work for interactive commands? I've now redone this stuff with > just calls to make-obsolete, which seems to work for me. Nice, thanks for fixing the bug, and also thanks for being reasonable. I've had to deal with 2 projects that broke ABI because of current events, and refused to fix it. 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