From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 16 11:26:22 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2020 15:26:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw5m8-0008Pw-Jv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:26:22 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:55738) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw5ls-0008Pa-T3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:26:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw5ls-0004hH-Mm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:26:04 -0400 Received: from aserp2120.oracle.com ([141.146.126.78]:43144) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jw5lq-0002z8-Ab for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:26:04 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp2120.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp2120.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 06GFN7dQ145513 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:25:57 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : subject : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=gdrn02DXW2qYhhx1GORpGYJKhSIXhlLr74dHgSusQQY=; b=qYD/9/X0QBc57y7heWkdAkzkwBZfzZHlzIMSqGKW04sG8QCdl2YS8D6Dl18IqHkc3SdX g528XNUKuRLV5oD8WhGcLJgimngePlHetCpTjqRTxoYjWYbdjPRhHxhsn51XnqXBpv2q 1UOkhQ2TVbEmqvRWAl62T84z2F4hCzupDdOd6kj+V9PLv8MQHOwLTEPWe+hOzfMHKcvC oqDnt5ngLIBuUdYYUjVT9xcgeZFyVcTLYVxUfDUQi3FmrhU0a7lCqGFbuxmRQRxWrAYk 1AgQYcci7KBJZ8DpeWLwQw6pc6xSlCvnoIk/eWzRh/j0ni/XMWZyVPkd5zMPuIj73AgY HQ== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by aserp2120.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3275cmj32c-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:25:57 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 06GFHpMQ130742 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:25:57 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 327q0tpp18-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:25:57 +0000 Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 06GFPuks004143 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:25:56 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <2427f02d-3cbe-45f6-a66e-dd36d33b9df3@default> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 26.3; doc of `kill-emacs' optional ARG X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5017.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9684 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=1 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2007160116 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9684 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=1 priorityscore=1501 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 malwarescore=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2007160116 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=141.146.126.78; envelope-from=drew.adams@oracle.com; helo=aserp2120.oracle.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/16 11:25:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -63 X-Spam_score: -6.4 X-Spam_bar: ------ X-Spam_report: (-6.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Both the Emacs and Elisp manuals describe the behavior of ARG as an integer or a string. But what about anything else? In `startup.el', `edt-mapper.el', and `tpu-edt.el', for example, we find (kill-emacs t). How is someone to understand this code? In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2019-08-29 Repository revision: 96dd0196c28bc36779584e47fffcca433c9309cd Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.18362 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --host=3Dx86_64-w64-mingw32 --without-compress-install 'CFLAGS=3D-O2 -static -g3'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 16 13:34:50 2020 Received: (at 42400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2020 17:34:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw7mU-000374-Cn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 13:34:50 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f44.google.com ([209.85.128.44]:56246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw7mS-00036q-Et for 42400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 13:34:49 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f44.google.com with SMTP id g75so11022184wme.5 for <42400@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:34:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aQJqNPmZNa/NmgbjPYhDxpaM8WZH+aOfnL8znOV5gzY=; b=NEjlHDotzlG3jcnRvaJbjy5ffqF+bOa10bbETSsMCUnRbu9xXObUxwL/AXAYRuh7k1 Tj/X0+BFkMM1RYTiXvUUBwUe+FEvFyaLauMkUnzFafWf0FyOqjQp8WrHCqGEhNMhSRVT mg0dkYbe/XMetDbu4EcFN3LIwEROH6+EwZvo46pA7Q2MZVCf//2AaXrgoiT6LLXQ7dQf j+xhlnQhafHSkEeZoIatn3K/65B/8yRLRDF+2GDOJWVfzvw9NoBjZqq2U9U5etd1fkvM MFeRZDYF8LpxsiW6K4MDMWSQyYK0WDp37Z/qecsgneFOmC7/LbnZzyzBAmvCdrmIOjmk tkKg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aQJqNPmZNa/NmgbjPYhDxpaM8WZH+aOfnL8znOV5gzY=; b=f7Lgu2xXRm+RhnKqwyD5ykKUu6wUdPd9niJhjDBkvFFzNyoGOwRrFxukhe3gt+Lp6f C64+zfdkP935KdtEF3sa4Nq+9/hYomRhLEZe0UT+1yc4kfXEp1syAJQbWcj7JrhSGfi9 D4WV2iiXPs9DRyTiDa5Tg0i2vVn3R8H+bXp7AWzggR6dYjl7GOxZpYPNGkkNOSkEOBNX hyMOV/bh+/CS8zAFaHy2v7pw5tgCjoZlALDVcakiEg8hHWDcexGR029/yjPpUiMIXLd0 4V9pRL3a4+4ygnZ1L2NHXaZh1IJljENkCnHINAj5hzOow1gdx4mnpftVUiRPjvrYyOiK as1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532eT88cTJkAr8iVSP+7kRXN8I1FpydyLGdQMeZ8tALphx2T/HLV b2rZx5FpmmSxiyW4/zZ05Z2kGtps9/3t+g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyockL4nQy50eQfQmzdpNuwVggdzYpE0ssCKhw0Drb+BW0OBB4GA9p+3S2Pt41sWLQeWuD5Qg== X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c84d:: with SMTP id c13mr5272360wml.170.1594920881713; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac ([2a01:e34:ecfc:a860:6c9b:b312:5489:40ad]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j145sm10028367wmj.7.2020.07.16.10.34.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim To: Drew Adams Subject: Re: bug#42400: 26.3; doc of `kill-emacs' optional ARG References: <2427f02d-3cbe-45f6-a66e-dd36d33b9df3@default> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:34:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2427f02d-3cbe-45f6-a66e-dd36d33b9df3@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42400 Cc: 42400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT), Drew Adams said: Drew> Both the Emacs and Elisp manuals describe the behavior of ARG as = an Drew> integer or a string. But what about anything else? Drew> In `startup.el', `edt-mapper.el', and `tpu-edt.el', for example, = we find Drew> (kill-emacs t). How is someone to understand this code? It=CA=BCs equivalent to exit'ing with EXIT_SUCCESS, without having to worry about the value of '0' on your platform :-) Not sure how we=CA=BCd express that in the docstring. Robert From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 16 13:59:00 2020 Received: (at 42400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2020 17:59:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55913 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw89s-0003gY-9e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 13:59:00 -0400 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:60028) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw89q-0003gK-LM for 42400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 13:58:59 -0400 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 06GHqHM2166382; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:58:52 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=oApTWhgdNRy+3ygf8m9OrcSD4xWlyzTM/oiMCWm2eC0=; b=b9YxHuLYiVvSQqXRgKa2ZQYzuI3nceDpAYvUz/vh7olp0dy5kFlQscIdHetm9KGhOeK/ UWDBRYaddiG8aUey8TN/3HwmGVl10l7wHjpgw+HRPXyylKU53KGwmiMco3T3/dBtGkOX YyXU6P7avAzOJKg90SHZ6mkVmSG4Uzt5+ZI6F4eWuRJS2rMxSRrMTqn7M2NkcTZfQgYk A69YPN9YcyvoVr6n8rCvAV4exiRC/IDnCNDpfF4dpxuLizfgpJw/TpXByGqD8emaqIu3 joKUou/Rut/Et/uzcJrh61zfAOlMauUGTA5iatEbNUXB/jjZFVuCnKXfJxLYKMoodPVf CQ== Received: from aserp3030.oracle.com (aserp3030.oracle.com [141.146.126.71]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3274urk0r6-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:58:52 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 06GHljjB110384; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:58:51 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 327q0twuuw-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:58:51 +0000 Received: from abhmp0009.oracle.com (abhmp0009.oracle.com [141.146.116.15]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 06GHwokC014590; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:58:50 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:58:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Robert Pluim Subject: RE: bug#42400: 26.3; doc of `kill-emacs' optional ARG References: <2427f02d-3cbe-45f6-a66e-dd36d33b9df3@default> In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5017.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9684 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2007160128 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9684 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 impostorscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 priorityscore=1501 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1011 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2007160128 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42400 Cc: 42400@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Drew> Both the Emacs and Elisp manuals describe the behavior of ARG > as an > Drew> integer or a string. But what about anything else? >=20 > Drew> In `startup.el', `edt-mapper.el', and `tpu-edt.el', for > example, we find > Drew> (kill-emacs t). How is someone to understand this code? >=20 > It=CA=BCs equivalent to exit'ing with EXIT_SUCCESS, without having to wor= ry > about the value of '0' on your platform :-) Not sure how we=CA=BCd expres= s > that in the docstring. Maybe just like that? Is this true only for `t', or is it true for any non-string, non-number value? However we say it, I think it should be doc'd. Thx. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 17 10:55:38 2020 Received: (at 42400-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2020 14:55:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwRly-0001B3-9B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:55:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45784) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwRlx-0001Aq-0r for 42400-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:55:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54817) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jwRlr-0007WA-JS; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:55:31 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1807 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jwRlq-000399-QF; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:55:31 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 17:55:17 +0300 Message-Id: <83pn8ui42y.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:34:40 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#42400: 26.3; doc of `kill-emacs' optional ARG References: <2427f02d-3cbe-45f6-a66e-dd36d33b9df3@default> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42400-done Cc: 42400-done@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:34:40 +0200 > Cc: 42400@debbugs.gnu.org > > >>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT), Drew Adams said: > > Drew> Both the Emacs and Elisp manuals describe the behavior of ARG as an > Drew> integer or a string. But what about anything else? > > Drew> In `startup.el', `edt-mapper.el', and `tpu-edt.el', for example, we find > Drew> (kill-emacs t). How is someone to understand this code? > > Itʼs equivalent to exit'ing with EXIT_SUCCESS, without having to worry > about the value of '0' on your platform :-) Not sure how weʼd express > that in the docstring. I've documented it now, thanks. From unknown Sun Aug 10 16:47:48 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2020 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator