From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 10 10:41:10 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2020 14:41:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43209 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jtuD8-0004lN-1Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:41:10 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:41486) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jtuD6-0004lE-8c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:41:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtuD6-0004za-1e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:41:08 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtuD5-0006hQ-Oj; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:41:07 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4948 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jtuD5-0001FR-41; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 10:41:07 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:40:53 +0300 Message-Id: <835zavph56.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 28.0.50; ElDoc no longer uses the mode line MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_T=E1vora?= X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Since a few days ago, typing an expression in the minibuffer no longer shows ElDoc information on the mode line; instead it shows it in the minibuffer, after the cursor. Is this change intentional? I see nothing about it in NEWS. It seems to have started when the ElDoc changes were merged from the branch. To reproduce, start "emacs -Q" and type, e.g., M-: (set-text-properties SPC You will see the function's signature shown in the minibuffer instead of the mode line. In GNU Emacs 28.0.50 (build 344, i686-pc-mingw32) of 2020-07-10 built on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Repository revision: 9ade7ea7b77ec40c16deb4dff139ce7127a703e2 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 System Description: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v5.1.0.2600) Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 3:41 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Since a few days ago, typing an expression in the minibuffer no longer > shows ElDoc information on the mode line; instead it shows it in the > minibuffer, after the cursor. Is this change intentional? I see > nothing about it in NEWS. It seems to have started when the ElDoc > changes were merged from the branch. No, this change is _not_ intentional. It didn't bother me, so I assumed someone else had intended it and done it. I will see what I can do as soon as possible. (Though, for an accidental feature, you could do worse...) Jo=C3=A3o From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 10 16:28:45 2020 Received: (at 42309-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2020 20:28:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43502 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jtzdV-0004aD-GI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:28:45 -0400 Received: from mail-il1-f178.google.com ([209.85.166.178]:46642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jtzdU-0004a1-5F for 42309-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:28:44 -0400 Received: by mail-il1-f178.google.com with SMTP id a6so6127949ilq.13 for <42309-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:28:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=2cR98GyDFJ8dTra2sGtLUqEGby9AzlZstAS6uQ6vAKE=; b=InYQP3A1HWOk+ZQt/ciJyAideTvsXv4dmHkzdcww0uo6XMcxjTPW09Yjz0Ilzt771U NKHC7ycsqMa856+RUMC632MBNDkH8YI2OKZkjztpV/oe48vD53RTp+g+PKoV7gLWYNrT I2/x4e5jFjOdVOpKA8x3c6Mtckj7ByjyHhQPWlqbhpD95LjNxJCIRuX/9WC3N01kHLOI nICvIWIy31H6EnZVZMdHEhB7xW7EXbDABQHr06ZqRA+ZMehba6WLBdkhALJP3KxnFPKW X1KDTgE26B9myFYYDh1FaysxpFq6FnQt9+WDQZ7Cge8TMojG7SIO5XQcE9YPhV9L+tk0 hauA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2cR98GyDFJ8dTra2sGtLUqEGby9AzlZstAS6uQ6vAKE=; b=P9UdWnidnsmYBrsao85W4VkOwOzcAeiS3lzU/JIydgfreBzgQl8b68oYwd8koaQkni 4Dx0boHxAMGFdRZI9iS7E1AGL8tNSocTdx/SPFHlzR2yP+4ywYacjgSZXrWklMWFwumt eu1pz2IUx7H18HqPbJ5GVfPd2VOJFQJyIO0ni5F5Y/E3tJdWFqYJVp4KRiw6746Cdy0y 9+I2mG3Z2KUw2rh9l6e8u+CU/hCLv+e3MB3V4/pyGBPbpL9MfvMPEawXFYgurFybvQhB zQk+iF2bdVIefcszxU8Wd0dovq/hb3TW0qWYNoibQ4kALw72qegASHJujgzeDktiIT2H y01A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530xx45giUrAILzuIj5h6POn6gzKjDaVaXZ80+9S5VX7B/tEn94t W+uvOjZvBbjH7el9JikmqNvlfV0FHu5i8qRN+EQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxA4zI/wnGRN9rGlMUwsxeTCu87YQhYInJclfrXARXdjdx1ri5fmU6xlAwIG4awRiX5XyTJShbLDph/SsAaz8k= X-Received: by 2002:a92:c205:: with SMTP id j5mr55484082ilo.137.1594412918441; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 13:28:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <835zavph56.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 21:28:27 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#42309: 28.0.50; ElDoc no longer uses the mode line To: Eli Zaretskii , 42309-done@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42309-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I pushed a fix. Let me know if it works. Jo=C3=A3o From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 11 03:01:01 2020 Received: (at 42309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jul 2020 07:01:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ju9VN-0005CP-Hm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 03:01:01 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32880) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ju9VK-0005C7-KB for 42309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 03:00:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ju9VE-0005OO-TE; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 03:00:53 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1147 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ju9VE-0003Au-Cb; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 03:00:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:00:42 +0300 Message-Id: <83zh86o7s5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= In-Reply-To: (message from =?utf-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= on Fri, 10 Jul 2020 21:28:27 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#42309: 28.0.50; ElDoc no longer uses the mode line References: <835zavph56.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42309 Cc: 42309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: João Távora > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 21:28:27 +0100 > > I pushed a fix. Let me know if it works. Thanks, seems to work OK now. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 11 20:34:54 2020 Received: (at 42309) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2020 00:34:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45068 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1juPxG-0007hm-2h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 20:34:54 -0400 Received: from relay11.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.231]:52759) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1juPxD-0007hW-Q3 for 42309@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Jul 2020 20:34:53 -0400 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-103-18.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.103.18]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay11.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ACDF3100002; Sun, 12 Jul 2020 00:34:44 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_T=E1vora?= Subject: Re: bug#42309: 28.0.50; ElDoc no longer uses the mode line Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <835zavph56.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2020 02:43:47 +0300 In-Reply-To: (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Jo=E3o_T=E1vora=22's?= message of "Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:44:46 +0100") Message-ID: <87imet3abg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42309 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 42309@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> Since a few days ago, typing an expression in the minibuffer no longer >> shows ElDoc information on the mode line; instead it shows it in the >> minibuffer, after the cursor. Is this change intentional? I see >> nothing about it in NEWS. It seems to have started when the ElDoc >> changes were merged from the branch. > > No, this change is _not_ intentional. It didn't bother me, > so I assumed someone else had intended it and done it. I > will see what I can do as soon as possible. > > (Though, for an accidental feature, you could do worse...) Shouldn't this be optional with a new defcustom? Because this accidental feature looks really nice :-) From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:57:39 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator