From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:29:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#42240: Interpretation of 'size' Property in Fontconfig Pattern Strings Resent-From: Sebastian Miele Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 11:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 42240 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 42240@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: sebastian.miele@gmail.com Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.159412112332237 (code B ref -1); Tue, 07 Jul 2020 11:26:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2020 11:25:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35581 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jslj1-0008Ns-6O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:25:23 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44110) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jsliz-0008Nk-1V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:25:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43744) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jsliy-0005sc-Ru for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:25:20 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-x42d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42d]:39394) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jslix-0005hQ-7T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:25:20 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-x42d.google.com with SMTP id q5so44718409wru.6 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2020 04:25:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=user-agent:from:to:subject:reply-to:message-id:date:mime-version; bh=fVbY3SAo8H/PMBoWJNWgUwYzGTEI+/ZczFMOzSX92sQ=; b=hfsCgTQhu726stpvdGffKAKv6NcFt4xT7ISJ2hcU/iJI6V/BAzi8wNR06jfXgunyak a/Aeh2FldYhMBEIhPmnCgozO6ldxvpYb9h0kq424GoyrAYp/eexd6SbN396bfnDhJYst dPgM6SwjN1EhC/XtBRaZauHteCoqmNcLka74lqfXMogDPPW+6gx36z0npqVXOVMw0BY/ 86Z7VoQY8Xm+xy6OvOiQVuJOSffsy/DimB+jvxuYWbbPe3iRDf/I3lWTPi38KhpgWCcw DPmV8tl/DGQVmz1Km1peYozA5bxDneg2nxSxl7OZkOsAMKkUfRdHO6xqZO3+dicpYIc2 5+YQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:subject:reply-to:message-id :date:mime-version; bh=fVbY3SAo8H/PMBoWJNWgUwYzGTEI+/ZczFMOzSX92sQ=; b=Wzzn6HXn58KutuUUdyurYecWSrBIA+rifTWVN7zE9sqChv4msWNSeI2S27836jWMTp rrjC0+AQbkmswgvPtaDIwt2P+o05kRjb9WpnY7w6jaVW2C4EXbTtr6TUJkWB6U2+Wp8N NoV1OWnCRtSZ1Meoxk3sH5d48+72SDf08b5mn6KK65kjAVFJEvBWAvSSFv3aAcOjHWHA BOiEiPvnBzandvBsFh2X9vcovBCqB42h2lZf8MYsAXcSZpadooIDOkTvVvYA4Z1nZWn2 M4d0zR3XONxkifGDY2ohKobYwuTDUHDKw34B8kNif6K7dgM4VAE+LPxQoHtB58OPQrIr EghA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531JUSNRYTjDu4oZmpk526I/5BeJX+zfOVvGf+1R2hnpxf8VuRmG W4JfXs4TcpLTD+GUL6ZIvUrLLq8N X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwgGRVQXRoQiz63DShLNQDJv2XJTicq1iLozku06+NRUDAQop9/cjByCDwUTXfZDATSrgMPPA== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6ac1:: with SMTP id u1mr52165892wrw.123.1594121116877; Tue, 07 Jul 2020 04:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huette ([5.146.118.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w17sm707827wra.42.2020.07.07.04.25.16 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Jul 2020 04:25:16 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 1.4.10; emacs 27.0.91 From: Sebastian Miele Message-ID: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 13:25:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42d; envelope-from=sebastian.miele@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42d.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20) of 2020-06-28 According to 'man 5 fonts-conf' the Fontconfig property 'size' is a double and represents the point size. The property 'pixelsize', too, is a double and represents the pixel size. In FC_DEBUG=1 emacs -Q --font=:family=Hack:size=11 the 'size=11' is interpreted as 'pixelsize=11'. fc-match :family=Hack:size=11 size pixelsize does interpret it as point size. Apart from that both emacs -Q --font=:family=Hack:size=11.1 and emacs -Q --font=:family=Hack:pixelsize=11.1 both yield the same error: "invalid font property: (:size . 11\.1)", although according to fontconfig the pixel size is a double, too. However, fractional pixel sizes may not make sense for Emacs at all. I do not know. The following does work as expected: emacs -Q --font=Hack-11.1 From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:29:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#42240: Interpretation of 'size' Property in Fontconfig Pattern Strings Resent-From: Robert Pluim Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42240 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sebastian Miele Cc: 42240@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 42240-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42240.159491183030260 (code B ref 42240); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:04:01 +0000 Received: (at 42240) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2020 15:03:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55728 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw5QL-0007s0-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:03:50 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f42.google.com ([209.85.128.42]:53197) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw5QH-0007ri-2D for 42240@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:03:49 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f42.google.com with SMTP id q15so10620053wmj.2 for <42240@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:03:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version; bh=ez8sFFRHn6DHLoFMpWmfCnP1ngFPL//C8cXsGj1iDAA=; b=kWJtaj6mEcnzzwUYHYkmUHZaLmpeH511q+tx7JIrFmt1W5lprotZT7Khn/zj6wWW4n M+Em6LNzs0mN4rTZG7ep8w8IYSZ7gvXM9LdK8+bxwoVirpN0wQhFsLcfIopAnOcz9hj0 0DkytzgUjW/aKYH2c3ZC0TpmFMdKanl4J1L7x9Nk5nrW57maR9DYw3BIU9VAaDUixwwf Sc0URV+BZ3ngZqudgoQrPJ8MtDIzSD5dUgv+LJRC6NZBSsIoiwyHpwg6JtOdEqL1efRT XWh4ai4b/ADM8OLsRIOBAH6GrGBe/MUbwA5KKTR/NSzDscpYVD4tWhmKTts01GnsB5kN VALA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version; bh=ez8sFFRHn6DHLoFMpWmfCnP1ngFPL//C8cXsGj1iDAA=; b=j6lppPZ+uc2+9hSyeBoLTKgUo4/5ueViXZBJdHC376e4tMS1Kh2DBK1jb+SKXUOrvA EXiYvFWbVoteccPMF7TJnm2Kylrf+adIwE3QrZpLCXxLVoGYJNEcFNfB6+DUW/A2rXiH PcYdTRdHiC8zLm92nMz0+2QpTe8+9KsbjnoXZEFozUb2gkS/TbOKaGZ1srQZ0bWtpUyp 28a0poVd9kJvztJoiRRHJDIoWm9Y8XSfnMsqxzshIIVqbY/EYUJhNf1eG9NDTWN30wtM jAh0cygC7zj3NuvJjVA0P738GzeHKp2gwwcpkpJp9aG+wORm5AK1WBYWj26J9RRJ1/n8 3QHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532sjQZKpqzfAdhKwp3ZGSt+kO2EXKjCkAqio3yU8jEHUdOpLdG9 Lgniavbaf3bJQK2PCXqlHxwU79yy X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJynO+Jm8DNJ/wH8b5TSpiWd3jlhT4Kh2pbsh7ofNdwpVBD3HdE1Y4m3TNAhr6XeWijA7jULUg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:ba0b:: with SMTP id k11mr4621504wmf.140.1594911818589; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpluim-mac (vav06-1-78-207-202-134.fbx.proxad.net. [78.207.202.134]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v15sm8491891wmh.24.2020.07.16.08.03.37 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:03:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:03:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> (Sebastian Miele's message of "Tue, 07 Jul 2020 13:25:15 +0200") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Tue, 07 Jul 2020 13:25:15 +0200, Sebastian Miele said: Sebastian> GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20) Sebastian> of 2020-06-28 Sebastian> According to 'man 5 fonts-conf' the Fontconfig property 'size' is a Sebastian> double and represents the point size. The property 'pixelsize', too, is Sebastian> a double and represents the pixel size. Is this a build with or without Cairo? (you snipped the part of the bug report that would have told us) Sebastian> In Sebastian> FC_DEBUG=1 emacs -Q --font=:family=Hack:size=11 Sebastian> the 'size=11' is interpreted as 'pixelsize=11'. Sebastian> fc-match :family=Hack:size=11 size pixelsize Sebastian> does interpret it as point size. Sebastian> Apart from that both Sebastian> emacs -Q --font=:family=Hack:size=11.1 Sebastian> and Sebastian> emacs -Q --font=:family=Hack:pixelsize=11.1 Sebastian> both yield the same error: "invalid font property: (:size . 11\.1)", Sebastian> although according to fontconfig the pixel size is a double, too. Sebastian> However, fractional pixel sizes may not make sense for Emacs at all. I Sebastian> do not know. Sebastian> The following does work as expected: Sebastian> emacs -Q --font=Hack-11.1 From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:29:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#42240: Interpretation of 'size' Property in Fontconfig Pattern Strings Resent-From: Sebastian Miele Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42240 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 42240@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: sebastian.miele@gmail.com Received: via spool by 42240-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42240.15949150172695 (code B ref 42240); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 42240) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2020 15:56:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55786 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6Fl-0000hO-1F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:56:57 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f47.google.com ([209.85.128.47]:50834) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw6Ff-0000h2-Sp for 42240@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:56:55 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f47.google.com with SMTP id c80so10774966wme.0 for <42240@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:date:mime-version; bh=bmUK3HgJKh6t1LAywvbmn9HtdVFKsUXmJemizzgEWLg=; b=hnI9on1pAv1BbrcyryjtvsW2i4uZ3PqJlpnVcjFwlN/5N1Ygs3swgT8hHujwRQaUV1 qkSUWdg8akHWKoG0D5F0nRIXzTE+Z1Di84o4NJT15LgvWsepcR+BgIBdjEvyhER/50a2 QA0sReNFP0yJO1johSNk9sCU5wOhYpmFs7eKEOym2rbhRj1gZL2ChgBgCV3izrFwv6Uw tt6A1tDx2f5xeRQUYJfTchCZWRlc4AFYnEEA+kw8YYHnKaAgrh7Dy9sPXTnvknigVeku Dgyjqo5V5sn0PXVnQs4KfLal6gpVrpxiQ5Khi4WG07l815vaVna80V1Emzb+mwIryiCT aLgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:date:mime-version; bh=bmUK3HgJKh6t1LAywvbmn9HtdVFKsUXmJemizzgEWLg=; b=KlYWnEp/JG5YIiHiJwYa5zkOQPkHLoYJd/Teu9K+T5u4/GTz54gRZGZ482lJWJdEja lC49wwttuqZV/jS0l0kLtBj9rjQhps7t62JUVxPf3F3yB+8qjtmFpKjTmpfCN8DvgSvA lg+jqjk+yPN5PNz47C/MpH9JuyqgGEM6zR0nuAv2tCMwvv3AGifx694rMEz7VkYNioCc /XLr/T6V8jf0RYRqvjh9Td+ce37ByjqioCL/D2tzYSvJIzqEFLrOqI/ejaCc7Zgxv8Pm yrE3X93zQ+mJPzfFglD5EMvetJWmp1+QueRB4XwsNXVQjfQXomfMnyn9UQlxpV+qy4Bj EZWg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533+X09H4BrwB2DEj5uIZK/vwVqLdSRAjGu3/PhIKWhFxeRAVsmO DZArXD3BSDmVKIkx/PQCxn2RvmOo X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxqpQVzM90wJwHwAvnrKUMrEJP8YM2r07xhsQfmeO3UT29fIg7Edzj9T7sipA4jkylGVpco6Q== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:bc8a:: with SMTP id m132mr4755845wmf.1.1594915005511; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huette ([5.146.118.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m9sm8579387wml.45.2020.07.16.08.56.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:56:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.10; emacs 27.0.91 From: Sebastian Miele In-reply-to: Message-ID: <871rlbo3lw.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:56:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim writes: > Is this a build with or without Cairo? (you snipped the part of the > bug report that would have told us) Both issues described happen both with and without cairo (both checked out from the emacs-27.0.91 tag). Here is the complete information of `report-emacs-bug' of the build without cairo: In GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20) of 2020-06-28 built on huette Repository revision: c36c5a3dedbb2e0349be1b6c3b7567ea7b594f1c Repository branch: HEAD Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12008000 System Description: Arch Linux Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Making completion list... Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-mailutils' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LANG: C locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:07:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> <871rlbo3lw.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.10; emacs 27.0.91 From: Sebastian Miele In-reply-to: <871rlbo3lw.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87y2njmoix.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:07:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Sebastian Miele : > Robert Pluim : > >> Is this a build with or without Cairo? (you snipped the part of the >> bug report that would have told us) > > Both issues described happen both with and without cairo (both checked > out from the emacs-27.0.91 tag). Here is the complete information of > `report-emacs-bug' of the build without cairo: > > [..] The build without cairo also contained '--without-xft' (although I do not really know the consequences). Here is the complete `report-emacs-bug' info from that build: In GNU Emacs 27.0.91 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.21, cairo version 1.17.3) of 2020-07-06 built on huette Repository revision: c36c5a3dedbb2e0349be1b6c3b7567ea7b594f1c Repository branch: HEAD Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12008000 System Description: Arch Linux Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. Configured using: 'configure --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-mailutils --with-cairo --without-xft' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG CAIRO SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB NOTIFY INOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE HARFBUZZ M17N_FLT LIBOTF ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM MODULES THREADS LIBSYSTEMD JSON PDUMPER LCMS2 GMP Important settings: value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LANG: C locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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Thu, 16 Jul 2020 10:03:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Pluim References: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> <871rlbo3lw.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2njmoix.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 19:03:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y2njmoix.fsf@gmail.com> (Sebastian Miele's message of "Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:07:50 +0200") Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:07:50 +0200, Sebastian Miele said: Sebastian> Sebastian Miele : >> Robert Pluim : >>=20 >>> Is this a build with or without Cairo? (you snipped the part of the >>> bug report that would have told us) >>=20 >> Both issues described happen both with and without cairo (both check= ed >> out from the emacs-27.0.91 tag). Here is the complete information of >> `report-emacs-bug' of the build without cairo: >>=20 >> [..] Sebastian> The build without cairo also contained '--without-xft' (alth= ough I do Sebastian> not really know the consequences). Here is the complete Sebastian> `report-emacs-bug' info from that build: Cairo implies --without-xft in any case, so no harm done. Looks like I=CA=BCll have to boot up my GNU/Linux box (although I=CA=BCm hazy on the difference between 'size' and 'pixelsize') Robert From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:29:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#42240: Interpretation of 'size' Property in Fontconfig Pattern Strings Resent-From: Sebastian Miele Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42240 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 42240@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: sebastian.miele@gmail.com Received: via spool by 42240-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42240.159492304315326 (code B ref 42240); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 42240) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2020 18:10:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55945 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw8LD-0003z7-C9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:10:43 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f51.google.com ([209.85.221.51]:37853) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw8L9-0003ys-9T for 42240@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:10:42 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id a6so8052919wrm.4 for <42240@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:10:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d3KBwQA8MM9u3buNjwSTrfkQU3AJDttrGhXRouAsg30=; b=kOtz/w7Q2OWJP76/qnddVrLhBUND+5mfsfoAYneC0Dl0zs9suo1b+2fwNtrSymTEVO rmJlOnuDBF9cVXNwkYznGPwrhVBhm1zCBkzDhE1vAt1iWJAB4hcBi8YGRQTPwV6Qvhpw TRnBGYbhKdOtILjbuNEQsXb0Uha9rdRloDN4Du4oLWv2qZDuhJwtCrgUdS6bTKz5IlKI O7dSq0o+vBIVK0VemCyTfZEHSurWy4/2E4ozSunqy/6MBN5J6zrB8IhtoGNGpmuIWnVI hG+bnbrRAThbY0H++ATnvif0qJbyMaH8ZMJlw0AylDfrGbCcEubW4uFjbcKAPouyaHkN 68nw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d3KBwQA8MM9u3buNjwSTrfkQU3AJDttrGhXRouAsg30=; b=LiBgUOnoJW/d27xb8OdfhtVU8Ur6lorKR/2+Vj9AfCOpP4y1Rn2CVToR61aq1RhY18 RHt7ipfHAtWLNXUxs6F0yhKJpR2Kho3SXt7YLwkYcwSlSVS3GZU0G5Uf4sK1BLXDhqRA 3D4GTGRm1y67EvfVqnQVNkKC7xd0F/ucFFGQLXFJTgP3zo6wjbmB0/0gM/ItTh7Glh7s yqYqMqn+pPbK1gWxEvpNjPo1u/1BPgokhdurl2/NUPrKydGGGX7iD8M/zx/ReQJ/s7A2 FZI1GEwBevwtx5ckelV5pcFyIaFVx1ZiWlzn2YgcwillnEjc0TSAYfueWaHjBwjYBkeQ XvKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533vBwTcjPeOxTVo9JOSbc1zL0ry5JPClK42OcWsrBd/MIqD5E80 tyUU+R3XryPtZpnRocTdekyGtplA X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxFa1OKv3g1HI25pnAwCeAh0KSTSZNFbDs2DBW/D5sesvgr4Wk9HsVMHFiaA17qSZ6pNOPRpg== X-Received: by 2002:adf:8524:: with SMTP id 33mr6111937wrh.366.1594923032809; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huette ([5.146.118.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a12sm10427443wrv.41.2020.07.16.11.10.31 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> <871rlbo3lw.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2njmoix.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.10; emacs 27.0.91 From: Sebastian Miele In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87r1tbib55.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 20:10:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Robert Pluim : > Cairo implies --without-xft in any case, so no harm done. Good to know. Thank you. > Looks like I=CA=BCll have to boot up my GNU/Linux box (although I=CA=BCm = hazy on > the difference between 'size' and 'pixelsize') The main Fontconfig manual page describing all properties is called 'man 5 fonts-conf' (which can be hard to find, because neither 'fc' nor 'fontconfig' are substrings of 'fonts-conf'). The 'size' is the point size. In general, there are many different definitions of point size. But in practice only one is used nowadays (except by TeX which uses a slightly different but very close definition that works better with its fixed point arithmetics). Usually a point is 1/72 inch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography)). Together with 'dpi' (dots/pixels per inch) that defines the relation between point size and pixel size. X has at least two different places where a dpi may be defined. One for the entire X display, although that does not really make sense with an X display having monitors of different pixel densities. Apart from that at least the Xrandr extension has a notion of distinct dpis per monitor. In general, Fontconfig has an even separate dpi. I do not really know what dpi Fontconfig uses, if it is not explicitly set in the Fontconfig configuration, but, e.g., fc-match :family=3DHack:size=3D11.1 size pixelsize dpi or fc-match -v :family=3DHack:size=3D11. display the dpi used. From unknown Tue Jun 17 22:29:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#42240: Interpretation of 'size' Property in Fontconfig Pattern Strings Resent-From: Sebastian Miele Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 42240 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Robert Pluim Cc: 42240@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: sebastian.miele@gmail.com Received: via spool by 42240-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B42240.159492307715403 (code B ref 42240); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 42240) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jul 2020 18:11:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55949 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw8Lk-00040M-LA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:11:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f42.google.com ([209.85.128.42]:34699) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jw8Li-000406-6g for 42240@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 14:11:15 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f42.google.com with SMTP id g10so5854699wmc.1 for <42240@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:date:mime-version; bh=ROufXYcoKwMA0pwxVUAJkvVnprbQGymDDE2KDPMTDy4=; b=h0Kd+CFTJmMQ5Yd34gF4KZSyXoM8qoKOCkPSD2cMQ4D73Kz5k3+MyhGswws0vAWvqO hpKPrfNccnwlOso5REvkTU2u9FTcLiTqF78z75seLugx7baac/MW0D3X4FopuEopJU0b WJoExmxPRDcLdeVheNWC1KiyNPNkTVTLD1/Qnqb7l2QyRD26mLZwh1Y2X2XDDJPlq2uT HFSoCLbjD+ienoIJrd0OGlyH3ny8cbhB1L120YcFcYzwOIw8f4fAR+hP9WiuZFOQyHt7 QJbYXRmSyp8NqkXkKOZJ8B7c8Ngtpd91HFNWJHmGMQ3rfyTojQKJKo045QCvJ4C9Ytv4 jqUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:date:mime-version; bh=ROufXYcoKwMA0pwxVUAJkvVnprbQGymDDE2KDPMTDy4=; b=R7ROq6bwAJj8uae19BbwiDSrbFCibxRyTxx56HrcEZvptZA4aJxYEbZ+jFE2++uQvI S05y3SM2uepPadqa03VK+okTgB0Dl6rbV2QPLtAVGMqzLgSSTsEd3YMwpEaCvjI7cLez uZckZHUfKu5GGKQAEyorUiE4RLsdKU3ryeoOyuHJItsv5E/y3kMLhhkLB7/s7XSkkMJ2 tIXCdNxL6n1wa4iGqZ4RDQ84ag6UPa6OQlgR2KRcEeixeWvUGzoemXeFwJSVOmopLBJq 5A34rIdE/gQ34oNSqWLhY1/E0cCBhzKZs604br8FT9evpGu5GJJPJ38NnQhbz+3cgCW2 0XTg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5305jer47yQXgJnZMMt+JWly0UpO/H7m0nbH20NtgOqLVJHVE3Fm YpgeDkEHURB3Z0HXxgwPGheEMS2s X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxmdjaKLWdPMPgKxzPzo+HC4ArPe5bMClbPDU1e7lMNzjFdiSJtB4qj8JpEXgB3Zf8Vd6t9Rg== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:2402:: with SMTP id k2mr5397830wmk.138.1594923067967; Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huette ([5.146.118.181]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 92sm11324573wrr.96.2020.07.16.11.11.07 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <87pn97r2hw.fsf@gmail.com> <871rlbo3lw.fsf@gmail.com> <87y2njmoix.fsf@gmail.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.4.10; emacs 27.0.91 From: Sebastian Miele In-reply-to: <87y2njmoix.fsf@gmail.com> Message-ID: <87o8ofib45.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2020 20:11:06 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I have just built a fresh Emacs with cairo from the emacs-27 branch (commit d24e56a5e4959f82b3da0dfac9ee3c428e077cbd). The two issues are present there, too.