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(modify-services %desktop-services (alsa-service-type config => (alsa-configuration (inherit config) (pulseaudio? #f))))) reconfigure, reboot, login to gnome, then bash-5.0$ pgrep pulseaudio 517 1261 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 03 06:20:08 2020 Received: (at 42175) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2020 10:20:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56493 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jrIng-0007Xd-Iz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2020 06:20:08 -0400 Received: from mailrelay.tugraz.at ([129.27.2.202]:46916) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jrIne-0007XP-Hl for 42175@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jul 2020 06:20:08 -0400 Received: from nijino.local (193-81-159-42.hdsl.highway.telekom.at [193.81.159.42]) by mailrelay.tugraz.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49yrYv4y01z3wPb; Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:20:03 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tugraz.at; s=mailrelay; t=1593771603; bh=BLqeySLHuUshslfRUm5m3vYja+YTJlxYSu5rs9Ju8zY=; h=Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To; b=YDSFN4NORafbH35FrfT5M6mxdi4ubvfmNA2dPK97lrOm9czq1wkZcfe+l31vbfPda U2r3JLNVIoVejE/CzPT2Vq5pzE6RUUzvAg+EOc5IQI+DNRhZN4mYzve8v2eWyyHPS4 Yht++tvjJjCU6oybMxDGX4gPONjt+efYGsY32Uyg= Message-ID: <336cacb31035e43c01b8a8a23b470970351e4116.camel@student.tugraz.at> Subject: bug#42175: "pulseaudio? #f" setting does not prevent pulseaudio from autostarting From: Leo Prikler To: ncdehnel@gmail.com Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2020 12:20:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: CAEEhgEuSe6ZSS=sbegbt8Afve7EcQikg93oVULOt6YbV8AdVPw@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-TUG-Backscatter-control: bt4lQm5Tva3SBgCuw0EnZw X-Spam-Scanner: SpamAssassin 3.003001 X-Spam-Score-relay: -1.9 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 129.27.10.116 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42175 Cc: 42175@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) I don't think pulseaudio autostarting is governed by alsa. There are two options you can try. 1. disable autospawning through configuration. For that, try setting the client-conf field of the pulseaudio-configuration to '((autospawn . no)) 2. Removing the pulseaudio package from gnome and anywhere else it might be propagated. (I don't think it is propagated in other services). 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[72.10.141.111]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bk23sm9929005qkb.3.2022.01.31.18.28.00 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:28:00 -0800 (PST) From: Maxim Cournoyer To: Leo Prikler Subject: Re: bug#42175: "pulseaudio? #f" setting does not prevent pulseaudio from autostarting References: <336cacb31035e43c01b8a8a23b470970351e4116.camel@student.tugraz.at> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:27:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: <336cacb31035e43c01b8a8a23b470970351e4116.camel@student.tugraz.at> (Leo Prikler's message of "Fri, 03 Jul 2020 12:20:02 +0200") Message-ID: <878ruvl3rk.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42175-done Cc: ncdehnel@gmail.com, 42175-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, Leo Prikler writes: > I don't think pulseaudio autostarting is governed by alsa. There are > two options you can try. > > 1. disable autospawning through configuration. For that, try setting > the client-conf field of the pulseaudio-configuration to > '((autospawn . no)) > 2. Removing the pulseaudio package from gnome and anywhere else it > might be propagated. (I don't think it is propagated in other > services). Indeed, if you look at (gnu services sound), you'll see that what pulseaudio? #t does (the default) is to add this to ALSA's asound.conf file: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- `("# Use PulseAudio by default pcm_type.pulse { lib \"" ,#~(string-append #$alsa-plugins:pulseaudio "/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so") "\" } ctl_type.pulse { lib \"" ,#~(string-append #$alsa-plugins:pulseaudio "/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so") "\" } pcm.!default { type pulse fallback \"sysdefault\" hint { show on description \"Default ALSA Output (currently PulseAudio Sound Server)\" } } ctl.!default { type pulse fallback \"sysdefault\" }\n\n" --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This configures ALSA applications to use pulseaudio as its default output. Many non-ALSA applications will attempt to use pulseaudio and the configuration of it being allowed to autostart or not is to be made at the level of pulseaudio-service-type, as pointed out in Liliana's reply (thanks!). Closing, Maxim From unknown Thu Sep 11 06:07:34 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2022 12:24:09 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator