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Content preview: Severity: wishlist, patch X-Debbugs-Cc: eliz@gnu.org, uyennhi.qm@gmail.com When I am reading a section of the Emacs manual, then I often assume that `p' and `n' behavior is like when you are reading a book, i.e. jump to the prev/next page; i.e., my natural expectation is tha [...] Content analysis details: (1.7 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (tino.calancha[at]gmail.com) 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails 2.0 SPOOFED_FREEMAIL No description available. X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Severity: wishlist,patch X-Debbugs-Cc: eliz@gnu.org,uyennhi.qm@gmail.com When I am reading a section of the Emacs manual, then I often assume that `p' and `n' behavior is like when you are reading a book, i.e. jump to the prev/next page; i.e., my natural expectation is that `n' is bound to `Info-forward-node'. I think their docstrings could add some description and mention to the other existent command. You get my point in this patch: --8<-----------------------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- commit 6a8f77a63bb5a57448f6184f96b3ca971e6d7991 Author: Tino Calancha Date: Thu Jun 25 23:29:34 2020 +0200 Clarify Info-next docstring Mention that Info-next doesn't descend into sublevels; also mention the existence of Info-forward-node. * lisp/info.el (Info-next) (Info-prev) (Info-forward-node) (Info-backward-node): Clarify docstring. diff --git a/lisp/info.el b/lisp/info.el index 7a11bb3ff9..234d1d9f5f 100644 --- a/lisp/info.el +++ b/lisp/info.el @@ -2265,7 +2265,11 @@ Info-following-node-name (match-string-no-properties 1))) (defun Info-next () - "Go to the next node of this node." + "Go to the next node of this node. +This moves to the next node within the same hierarchical level, i.e., +it doesn't descend into a sublevel. + +See also `Info-forward-node'." (interactive) ;; In case another window is currently selected (save-window-excursion @@ -2273,7 +2277,11 @@ Info-next (Info-goto-node (Info-extract-pointer "next")))) (defun Info-prev () - "Go to the previous node of this node." + "Go to the previous node of this node. +This moves to the previous node within the same hierarchical level, i.e., +it doesn't ascend into an upper level. + +See also `Info-backward-node'." (interactive) ;; In case another window is currently selected (save-window-excursion @@ -2887,7 +2895,9 @@ Info-final-node (Info-goto-node (Info-extract-menu-counting nil))))) (defun Info-forward-node (&optional not-down not-up no-error) - "Go forward one node, considering all nodes as forming one sequence." + "Go forward one node, considering all nodes as forming one sequence. +Interactively, this is similar as `Info-next' but it also +descends into sublevels." (interactive) (goto-char (point-min)) (forward-line 1) @@ -2922,7 +2932,9 @@ Info-forward-node (t (user-error "No pointer forward from this node"))))) (defun Info-backward-node () - "Go backward one node, considering all nodes as forming one sequence." + "Go backward one node, considering all nodes as forming one sequence. +Interactively, this is similar as `Info-prev' but it also +ascends into upper levels." 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Clarify Info-next docstring References: <87a70qkei9.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42050-done Cc: uyennhi.qm@gmail.com, 42050-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: eliz@gnu.org,uyennhi.qm@gmail.com > From: Tino Calancha > Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 23:43:42 +0200 > > When I am reading a section of the Emacs manual, then I > often assume that `p' and `n' behavior is like when you are > reading a book, i.e. jump to the prev/next page; i.e., my > natural expectation is that `n' is bound to `Info-forward-node'. > > I think their docstrings could add some > description and mention to the other existent command. > > You get my point in this patch: Thanks, I fixed this in a slightly different way. P.S. Do you really use [ and ] in Info when reading a manual? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 26 04:42:01 2020 Received: (at 42050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2020 08:42:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jojvs-0004do-UZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 04:42:01 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f53.google.com ([209.85.221.53]:39869) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jojvn-0004dV-Tq for 42050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 04:41:59 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f53.google.com with SMTP id q5so8637497wru.6 for <42050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 01:41:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd-ie.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=uT/0kOPBnU5nu1XTGDnsb8KUYXtOhw1eh7JD6AIcqCI=; b=oeeogLEzUX5/n+QEImih/jfPll+LXy4GzRf/UXb//fIGsZX9Q/yyqV/2/t0OWTXhY6 c5DbrOMIJKV5A8AXWjvgn1H6PGqc2pk0CV6z1GjVMUF4n+fx0vbLsiPefht6J4qFJ2pU omwjCgbP0wI3NqKQx+bzZmB/w8JwOJgiGTR86BtI9PVYzUpzf/eHbne6UCaRF1N/o6MU Ow4fj7zWdpLDIrlIJKn6cFukzwc9RgR9dK5V9CyNyTtQW2NMwIll7iEcKPoiiqMwDU0M QZClpThwSKuwLEIGQmTZMtUqr0Wx3wiFb9FqSDdAArDVZDUa69EJ1++mwRTWzGKNPr7o R0GA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=uT/0kOPBnU5nu1XTGDnsb8KUYXtOhw1eh7JD6AIcqCI=; b=YMqrnPa/ZCRmJsPEQVczoEynGWajC7Ol+jp6GBoArQtVKqdUGqRMbXt8kr6Qdks4Ls 6CuKOyrLpbPqCd4ksN+TLMs1sBIY3lSwLkDqLCRnou4xHWFX5HKBVAJKPzX7BnE41uy6 CbrfJ3+biL+wPUHfNvlgmrXOUASocmcrgX4hm0Mme8+QhP/HmVUP4D7vquHqmphm52Yi 65xb0xEqxLdI9FwyRRAGmgEdV8zVcQ0V6TBQonObZfYjITPixnMOyjiTMfhb11a9Mlbn r6bEFkpv+nydFSBDB1TCiU1qIMY5PNiJSMXbdKacQv1/UfSwP6YlBTNhQ18hyOc3/Y64 NY+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532uEkwS4cf1jXN6ZDUxR0kSrHHabXOacGv/9uiYtJa9KM4C7z8y GuqTZeKb6pdV0F6OTT9aNql1qlA6KgE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxUt7qEdXLZmlyhuuLTJLBOiIUSXdMxnzEct9N/KJsDRjjsQM8Fpb4T19O3m1gimpmR6GF+Kw== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:56c7:: with SMTP id m7mr2463805wrw.223.1593160909838; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 01:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2a02:8084:20e2:c380:1f68:7ff5:120d:64e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j41sm37487410wre.12.2020.06.26.01.41.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 26 Jun 2020 01:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" To: 42050@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#42050: 27.0.91; Clarify Info-next docstring References: <87a70qkei9.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> <83d05ms25r.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 09:41:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83d05ms25r.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 26 Jun 2020 10:43:12 +0300") Message-ID: <877dvu43sk.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42050 Cc: eliz@gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > P.S. Do you really use [ and ] in Info when reading a manual? I do; I hate cliffhangers. ;) -- Basil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 26 06:32:27 2020 Received: (at 42050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2020 10:32:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41922 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jolel-0003fZ-Hr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 06:32:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:55216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jolei-0003fJ-Dl for 42050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 06:32:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59609) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jolec-0003cI-Kc; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 06:32:18 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4393 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1joleb-00006P-P8; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 06:32:18 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:31:59 +0300 Message-Id: <838sgarucg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" In-Reply-To: <877dvu43sk.fsf@tcd.ie> (contovob@tcd.ie) Subject: Re: bug#42050: 27.0.91; Clarify Info-next docstring References: <87a70qkei9.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> <83d05ms25r.fsf@gnu.org> <877dvu43sk.fsf@tcd.ie> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42050 Cc: 42050@debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" > Cc: eliz@gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 09:41:47 +0100 > > > P.S. Do you really use [ and ] in Info when reading a manual? > > I do; I hate cliffhangers. ;) Why not SPC and DEL? They incorporate the functionality of [ and ]. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 26 07:32:55 2020 Received: (at 42050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2020 11:32:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41963 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jombH-0007Iz-DV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 07:32:55 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f48.google.com ([209.85.128.48]:35756) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jombD-0007Ik-BJ for 42050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 07:32:54 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f48.google.com with SMTP id l2so7571838wmf.0 for <42050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 04:32:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tcd-ie.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=7kewn1XFwty+Oi/Ow0qF4aY3KoT0zv1iPiSzRl+Y8Hk=; b=jUymJAsv2A58trb1zE6z9Z0wGbKlf9Qz64IYaxBnCZOWHPOyhix7ZYBSZbEOdzcrmp 9BPRfpxO4S5gCj70bveZM676QHppsdYyJM8AEu9wMIUD0JhMxH/cVBr0oz6SQXV92GZE YPTbq4UlWdQDRQrSjC9/3mVb/bM5thmHlI9g4JVIiSCrBh30T9NQqXc/u17LF3Uvnw8r vilxWYNk9uuzRQR+m0/4x+UoUJSHi3DaKeKK8FlndzUfIaQet6Xh+dL0DCIb9WtVpDLB WXxLJUoDmz1Dg+H2vulkeu71j4faBrD42WRrwPFYQDrcNYmC0HZTWJSWN0thgwFAUWb5 Uhkg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=7kewn1XFwty+Oi/Ow0qF4aY3KoT0zv1iPiSzRl+Y8Hk=; b=GgOzzv8yVmwpIJFuQ19Dbk5U2618ZSMtlNfR817BzK8LrSki0i3lsqNXF7VmvVnF0W VrEphH6edbA6ySEu2SaUQ+OC3QkqhsJAOFKN+yzzFBVSaz+xmPdq9lVHeWnlbfMu3o1g Ml/KXngldK21zTeghHG7ajRl4EL7dli8z9BsmZNluYkFyZ0K8cVSbd/kIaco1hLlBt9C eTYk0YHNY4zK2mEmPu3IDZstyefDt7d0248ny8UO1CjfC0qfWVESD9sJlVHiHR6dyrP0 lbk3ZG8nFQgTgUrAz2NskqUrNttDHPzuvNNlXAxATe36+sTk3HoibEr/gj3BHMB5mBJh DLpA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531G8z8ITq9W+YIiQrEociLTFFLTLNAukqO8klVM4SuGVlp2NEKB w30W3KQyxuwjXLK5kcwn3Y45jQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxZAQw+xPqumbqahNJsbU8rPjYo6tJbTg5rhAIWnH6dmUnp9GddrHEmEbRcaainrw/4LTYtpA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:d5:: with SMTP id u21mr2881739wmm.156.1593171165458; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 04:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2a02:8084:20e2:c380:1f68:7ff5:120d:64e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k11sm34358811wrd.23.2020.06.26.04.32.44 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 26 Jun 2020 04:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#42050: 27.0.91; Clarify Info-next docstring References: <87a70qkei9.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> <83d05ms25r.fsf@gnu.org> <877dvu43sk.fsf@tcd.ie> <838sgarucg.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 12:32:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <838sgarucg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:31:59 +0300") Message-ID: <87o8p6kqp0.fsf@tcd.ie> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42050 Cc: 42050@debbugs.gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" >> Cc: eliz@gnu.org, tino.calancha@gmail.com >> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 09:41:47 +0100 >> >> > P.S. Do you really use [ and ] in Info when reading a manual? >> >> I do; I hate cliffhangers. ;) > > Why not SPC and DEL? They incorporate the functionality of [ and ]. I use those too, but sometimes I don't want to scroll through a whole node if it's longer than a screenful. -- Basil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 26 11:36:19 2020 Received: (at 42050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2020 15:36:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1joqOp-0004yV-IJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:36:19 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f50.google.com ([209.85.208.50]:39990) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1joqOk-0004yF-VA for 42050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 11:36:18 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f50.google.com with SMTP id b15so7260284edy.7 for <42050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 08:36:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=59rzFZd/hFZQUWpPu1NCb7cLok923E0pFog/uDXTDG8=; b=Md+z5XxKwPBR37UDTiDrEDa68TMnX5dx5W3tQyRuca0Zspz5AxMTW2qWISH2Yo/DA3 hXUVt7OxwFjRssI6J4AWivHOF7wWxOZJJ8jyx/ARoedroSC2FN8kxi0+ciPKdWeJuqg7 ktmQxO5x1zncviFrcIV0ZR8fpEx/+zAKO3XsmxKNiWCaxXzkALeKlaJt2D67P2hrgLKT NFvomarAGeg57C8h+XsvLAKkn+Z3ro+oPw133CtI/14oQW1qy8U0jV6bRDxFsiFiYGW4 oLUFwmn/3Jg7TRABwV5daYa3DoGelxlji503CncnKoVgsO421VcPVZZPW65/2aQ7J6j8 PAIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=59rzFZd/hFZQUWpPu1NCb7cLok923E0pFog/uDXTDG8=; b=o/ZhSoQDRmb5Qu3ZhH9Xek55H5s6qqx24y/qQx6CipiHpBJzc7Dvjh2tRzV+Pp+sqY aV3gXz8DEtB4JcMwSQ9Mqf9ODBsHax80rNcazT9ir0LsIz5Os2u2Y8aBzv/He7u5oOR0 a8pZLUN5AJ9qMlipvC7EE+IpdOs3LbCEntLH4aT1swetpd1JcsYCtiOKaOye4XiOAx6U ql/bdDbXUfVFLxhwBkvtNWSEl+61PQjJ6wG3Sd8wTgv70pm0WwSzH5k3Zh2h5ZpfrXG6 jeTk9xkJp+1ZzW3IXhcrDYv+mv4ZPwJJo/5ItpQFVN2jjfq4dpHbw5e7+QEinT5weBCp mSTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Cc3ymulDCbpN557vfhkrNdIKXxEYfnHVf3MNBKLRvQxHM1gJs Lmll7sh2YQ7KwDzgqX/rEUk5/gvxjh0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxIRzGhwrcSy63A13Hp+rBQS4INW9WcgMhsANFIxEgMIc5vWAvzS5doPa7x7KuZttqTHv/OMw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1d10:: with SMTP id dg16mr3842925edb.309.1593185768664; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 08:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp ([31.7.242.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v5sm4889455ede.35.2020.06.26.08.36.06 for <42050@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 26 Jun 2020 08:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Tino Calancha To: 42050@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#42050: closed (Re: bug#42050: 27.0.91; Clarify Info-next docstring) References: <83d05ms25r.fsf@gnu.org> <87a70qkei9.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:36:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: (GNU bug Tracking System's message of "Fri, 26 Jun 2020 07:44:02 +0000") Message-ID: <87366hkffj.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42050 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) writes: > Thanks, I fixed this in a slightly different way. Thank you. > P.S. Do you really use [ and ] in Info when reading a manual? Yes I do; I like that they always behave as 'next page', with no sorprise. For instance, if you are at section X.y, then ']' bring me to X.y.z, while 'n' goes to X.y+1 which discuss something unrelated with what I am digging in that moment. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 26 13:53:25 2020 Received: (at 42050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jun 2020 17:53:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43019 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1josXV-0001wM-Kb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:53:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1josXU-0001w9-UO for 42050@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:53:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43529) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1josXP-0003lC-ER; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:53:19 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3805 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1josXO-0000Yn-R6; Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:53:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 20:53:03 +0300 Message-Id: <831rm1sohs.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Tino Calancha In-Reply-To: <87366hkffj.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> (message from Tino Calancha on Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:36:00 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#42050: closed (Re: bug#42050: 27.0.91; Clarify Info-next docstring) References: <83d05ms25r.fsf@gnu.org> <87a70qkei9.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> <87366hkffj.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42050 Cc: 42050@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Tino Calancha > Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:36:00 +0200 > > > P.S. Do you really use [ and ] in Info when reading a manual? > Yes I do; I like that they always behave as 'next page', with no > sorprise. > For instance, if you are at section X.y, then ']' bring me to > X.y.z, > while 'n' goes to X.y+1 which discuss something unrelated with what > I am digging in that moment. I didn't mean 'n' and 'p', I meant SPC and DEL. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 28 12:48:37 2020 Received: (at 42050) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jun 2020 16:48:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jpaTt-0007uz-MO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:48:37 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f43.google.com ([209.85.208.43]:40745) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jpaTr-0007ul-Rx for 42050@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 12:48:36 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f43.google.com with SMTP id b15so10901569edy.7 for <42050@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 09:48:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :mime-version; bh=WIZZ5Yqd35aO6lF59MqjQfctuGjAuOz7lkCJ4aIH3VM=; b=mpV5J5EzQWc3usqG3YfjTSC7FwxMuiDmtBG0sGkZ4UKNcEzA6vgewkZioiYcDDmav1 /DiM9D2syryWxgVxC1S5+dbbwJ0hdCXWC/0o4oQCNS2vfUbXle51FzBJHEwLa3E6lvPV eoHDJF2uCuES27yjXqsYdYW4YkpDIi/OFS0S1zgWE89glfY7q3WniYCgENRzRX3/fP5M K2ZcTg529qa7B6RuftUA4ymdgbnjaNgy0McxKt4Rb+wFGxyqXCMbsjt5xPrZhkamQZfU tmQo0S36p+3swjvmPCd4VUmed4Uv+urz2TZsZJMAtBmtE4+HN2Rz0Gm3n0w7JR7s6/nw NHkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id :references:user-agent:mime-version; bh=WIZZ5Yqd35aO6lF59MqjQfctuGjAuOz7lkCJ4aIH3VM=; b=IX0tMx6zz/PiBiH/hF+xbPDALATsZUX7Osx0AvNfTjHDVZzORUGe2uXN8mMiaYSzuq W6RqqH62i7m5ZBDOAW8hqGqt3mALwn8P1MykxlLsuwpMG/5yY+nWLcQCiysj03KR6tA/ XsFCKimfKCYjEIyfrusQmwacTiS4LKfgnWNKKA1gqJ4SevxZ+/oby+t8ZA14eWpgf313 adEsmPRMak3k1UTGaMv7ZWgmF+d/qi/vFaQlrQ5XLh5wwMBDbqqZBATnyKEuPE7cKnqB gZv7Us5ss0136HmG4AAu4uQ3d7zZLOF6H3kMRFki5vu6p9MTkUVKJKM4vTzynFgl+fEP DfHg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531suH/UYcDFZCWzTgCXfMoDGrXm2iAihSlXEXCQ7qKjZrLC9+Sk 6ONPfUWJyvQfMvwROowHhrGUHGwheHk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyWQefoI/uj9vowXThDtgVIeA6cgUGFN2TQIVY+YyEitxjrN2Obg9AXR2qkGgYtjmmWMpqZ5g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:b4b:: with SMTP id bx11mr13234413edb.286.1593362909720; Sun, 28 Jun 2020 09:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp ([31.7.242.222]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v24sm8794613eja.29.2020.06.28.09.48.28 for <42050@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 28 Jun 2020 09:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tino Calancha X-Google-Original-From: Tino Calancha Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:48:27 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp To: 42050@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#42050: closed (Re: bug#42050: 27.0.91; Clarify Info-next docstring) In-Reply-To: <831rm1sohs.fsf@gnu.org> Message-ID: References: <83d05ms25r.fsf@gnu.org> <87a70qkei9.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> <87366hkffj.fsf@calancha-pc.dy.bbexcite.jp> <831rm1sohs.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 42050 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On Fri, 26 Jun 2020, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Tino Calancha >> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 17:36:00 +0200 >> >>> P.S. Do you really use [ and ] in Info when reading a manual? >> Yes I do; I like that they always behave as 'next page', with no > I didn't mean 'n' and 'p', I meant SPC and DEL. No I don't use them (neither in buffers in view-mode); I am too used to scroll myself. From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:08:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator