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Sun, 21 Jun 2020 07:53:42 +0000 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 07:53:38 +0000 (UTC) From: Andrew Goh To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Message-ID: <1016225996.1163221.1592726018504@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: ELisp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1163220_1281962892.1592726018502" References: <1016225996.1163221.1592726018504.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16138 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/83.0.4103.106 Safari/537.36 Edg/83.0.478.54 Content-Length: 1806 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=106.10.240.80; envelope-from=andrewgoh95@yahoo.com.sg; helo=sonic313-21.consmr.mail.sg3.yahoo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/21 03:53:43 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 9 X-Spam_score: 0.9 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 11:51:29 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) ------=_Part_1163220_1281962892.1592726018502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi GNU Emacs Team, I wonder if the GNU Emacs Team had thought of replacing the ELisp scripting= language with that from newLisp.=C2=A0 I took a look at newLisp documentat= ion and must say its very easy.=C2=A0 Anyway, I didn't run the newLisp inst= aller as Windows Defender blocked the download from executing. The only pla= ce where I will run newLisp code is "newLisp in a browser." Regards, Andrew Goh S M ------=_Part_1163220_1281962892.1592726018502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi GNU Emacs Team,

I wonder if the GNU Emacs Team had thought of replacing the= ELisp scripting language with that from newLisp.  I took a look at ne= wLisp documentation and must say its very easy.  Anyway, I didn't run = the newLisp installer as Windows Defender blocked the download from executi= ng. The only place where I will run newLisp code is "newLisp in a browser."=

Regards,

Andrew Goh S M

= ------=_Part_1163220_1281962892.1592726018502-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 21 13:41:39 2020 Received: (at 41985) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2020 17:41:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60869 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jn3yN-0002N0-DB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2020 13:41:39 -0400 Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:54977 helo=mail.muc.de) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jn3yJ-0002Mj-6B for 41985@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Jun 2020 13:41:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 52850 invoked by uid 3782); 21 Jun 2020 17:41:28 -0000 Date: 21 Jun 2020 17:41:28 -0000 Message-ID: <20200621174128.52849.qmail@mail.muc.de> From: Alan Mackenzie To: Andrew Goh Subject: Re: bug#41985: ELisp Organization: muc.de e.V. In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.bug User-Agent: tin/2.4.4-20191224 ("Millburn") (FreeBSD/11.3-RELEASE-p9 (amd64)) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41985 Cc: 41985@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) In article you wrote: > Hi GNU Emacs Team, > I wonder if the GNU Emacs Team had thought of replacing the ELisp > scripting language with that from newLisp.? Hardly. > I took a look at newLisp documentation and must say its very easy. But it won't include facilities for manipulating editing things like buffers. It would take a lot of work to replicate these in newLisp. Also, there's around 1.7 million lines of Emacs Lisp code in the Emacs core. That's a lot of code to have to convert. > Anyway, I didn't run the newLisp installer as Windows Defender blocked > the download from executing. The only place where I will run newLisp > code is "newLisp in a browser." Well, there's another reason. You'd likely have less trouble running on GNU/Linux. > Regards, Andrew Goh S M -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 24 09:48:51 2020 Received: (at 41985) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jul 2020 13:48:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47308 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jyy4A-0006G8-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 09:48:51 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f179.google.com ([209.85.219.179]:41540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jyy48-0006Fm-12 for 41985@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 09:48:49 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f179.google.com with SMTP id a15so4707294ybs.8 for <41985@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:48:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lBkv6ltd0ctbr1yjQKrpVTF92z9yXPyc2KMuIViwlvA=; b=Fcz2ev3EnRuN1oyrgINtFLFRG4boc6iF+qLarr3kzbX6hNo5CgoCSKqKm07npLBA7Q 0Cx8tFfjxBOQG2psB6Uq1d8qZThoQ0eCe1z4TTIFpTw290mwUBePmmcZ6JZr9hbwC3eD DVrqhDEQapfBMrpchGnpgXgYZxpCc7UngLu2eIdfTK4OmgjenFAxm3DMR1exZeZAt7En WqIJGMg2cFtKft+uqQ6hUMyWzAKnwReH3/zSxLnX+Zs6YS+lTZaHMMCKnPHI5eYOhval tQdRndB92HnWCMEF7JH9zZBSxg8igSM2uRneXDrimYOH5MZa7Cwsiilqwllv/DXOJRgN 92jA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lBkv6ltd0ctbr1yjQKrpVTF92z9yXPyc2KMuIViwlvA=; b=Xf9Ymhq6v3FtYGubb+3KcIZmqJYnMQ8liAaPYqzbmGk67u8kauRxy8y47Rz5VOsZCp WkcIbQyDk2BF0aKuo7m/YwpmO4iRP+i8ItAFK30zidsteu4KvvYyaNWlOHdEB+zlAMWn ak1Nz+FipH8rbtAc9bHv4zQwdL7YquCmC8JjxFsufJXKZjoszk+Tj9BEVc6xa89+Wya+ MYEDMZ1MUUbFSP5OVyK9+iMdBfiNQun1ZALqmxVM0qr73gdZ2ZDoukuTZaX3XLksxl0x GdE8/O7LenZXXc19TDCVyTXIYG+GuHrFKYOnWD7g6rdGXGM7+f85UvpMRZsds/8SfMmh iGdQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531i2OUbLo2GxfXoDLfHMxMTrTH3xKCqG3RR4SrJHcRaukFYsRPp KttkgQOZymzV/XCcSVCdWSlTNk6+iP9wNdYztek= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyY/QEPl+k6xq6qDDctMxu+5YZO1edOS2VkN/7dCvYcCfxWhPFbtcBxqgKegVg0hkJQOLndOa5wpDY+9KoZWiU= X-Received: by 2002:a25:ab0e:: with SMTP id u14mr15323298ybi.181.1595598522275; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:48:41 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <20200621174128.52849.qmail@mail.muc.de> References: <1016225996.1163221.1592726018504@mail.yahoo.com> <20200621174128.52849.qmail@mail.muc.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 06:48:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41985: ELisp To: Alan Mackenzie , Andrew Goh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41985 Cc: 41985@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 41985 + notabug wontfix close 41985 thanks Alan Mackenzie writes: > In article you wrote: >> Hi GNU Emacs Team, > >> I wonder if the GNU Emacs Team had thought of replacing the ELisp >> scripting language with that from newLisp.? > > Hardly. > >> I took a look at newLisp documentation and must say its very easy. > > But it won't include facilities for manipulating editing things like > buffers. It would take a lot of work to replicate these in newLisp. > > Also, there's around 1.7 million lines of Emacs Lisp code in the Emacs > core. That's a lot of code to have to convert. It is very unlikely that we will rewrite Emacs in newLisp. I'm therefore closing this bug. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Fri Aug 15 20:48:05 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2020 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator