From unknown Wed Sep 10 10:35:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#41960: nntp.el: Switch back to CAPABILITIES command? Resent-From: Kyle Meyer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: larsi@gnus.org, bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 02:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 41960 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 41960@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-Xcc: Lars Ingebrigtsen Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.159262041925295 (code B ref -1); Sat, 20 Jun 2020 02:34:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jun 2020 02:33:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57127 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jmTK3-0006Zs-Tc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:39 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:59886) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jmTJz-0006Zg-4x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:34 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53682) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jmTJy-0007nS-Qg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:30 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com ([64.147.108.71]:54670) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jmTJw-0002Q8-Gi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:30 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp2.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2AB77435 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=sasl; bh=g /D57stq2PDVp58rSxxB55W25Rk=; b=ty5vsQJY5vbz+SrinYJV7onETBW/oW2w7 yWADDMC3l7fDGRwdEuEE+KtHEcs4bQGusW6kbPlq8CT2MDdyY/4LTkU2VxW8/Ekt VIPRKJYl7yMFRwmng+eRUAJX/D366fYpm8KObxjesEIA8bBfonDsqJgmrfqb4+cS UefvvqQDP4= Received: from pb-smtp2.nyi.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44B977434 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=kyleam.com; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=lUhTRPHig1zCro2TLMlanPzdnUG/o4fj2YK6f+MtHLk=; b=ov/UCpBxFwfhTiIhhDcpToI15omBoAiXT4bODTJfGSwSd2kimSXtPWkO3aRmJnoz9ze/As8wDRaEfL6Zb26+gIOd9ZQfO/UZTHuFai8gz66/8VxfDsaFZ2hRrD52ajWa0HYS/0B8UJn5a912p0eJOB6bWAL6jy0zD0cMPNyGd1c= Received: from localhost (unknown [45.33.91.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp2.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4087477433 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:33:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) From: Kyle Meyer Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2020 02:33:25 +0000 Message-ID: <87sgeqbh56.fsf@kyleam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 6B49BD50-B29E-11EA-8617-D1361DBA3BAF-24757444!pb-smtp2.pobox.com Received-SPF: pass client-ip=64.147.108.71; envelope-from=kyle@kyleam.com; helo=pb-smtp2.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/19 22:33:26 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) In Emacs 24.4 [0], the command used in nntp.el for detecting NNTP capabilities changed from CAPABILITIES to HELP to work around an issue with a particular news server not recognizing the CAPABILITIES command (bug#12763). This probably works most the time because, according the RFC 3977 [1], it is "customary for [HELP] to list the valid commands and give a brief definition of what they do". However, that same section says HELP shouldn't be used as a replacement for CAPABILITIES. A specific case where using HELP instead of CAPABILITIES causes an issue is with public-inbox's [2] NNTP service, such as the one hosted at . public-inbox doesn't include a list of commands in its HELP output. That is, it's not following the convention, but it is still following the specification. Because nntp-open-connection tries to detect capabilities with HELP, it doesn't catch the properly advertised STARTTLS capability and fails to upgrade to a TLS connection. I'm guessing that the server from bug#12763 didn't recognize CAPABILITIES because it was based on RFC 977. However, given RFC 3977 supersedes 977 and is from 2006, does it make sense at this point to assume CAPABILITIES is supported? [0] b9989bfa7e59b423df76b184e657b66017f72ff9 lisp/gnus/nntp.el (nntp-open-connection): Fix nntp connection problems with the Typhoon server 2012-12-28 [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3977#section-7.2 [2] https://public-inbox.org/ From unknown Wed Sep 10 10:35:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#41960: nntp.el: Switch back to CAPABILITIES command? Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 00:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41960 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kyle Meyer Cc: 41960@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 41960-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41960.159511879222757 (code B ref 41960); Sun, 19 Jul 2020 00:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 41960) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 00:33:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59507 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxGR-0005ux-Oc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:33:11 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:54950) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxGP-0005uk-Dt for 41960@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:33:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=DU6z85qc/xLjl01093m4kJ9vfFFMhfXJlLM3miDeLAQ=; b=JnHN9yWw9/O/J3bZq8MVaIqV2g c5Mk6ECXtmfjxTJjHI+F07zg8SFuFaalkP5xFzXa+nO0eZKeJayTVu926mhJpMVKZM7KQ8khye75u Cs+6vXLh08jHhyY/CIgX8RRuNe9wwFFyY7tIHRGFcVbuQXK8sEmzGXr1gH0ndi8G5f0w=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxGE-00073x-9b; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:33:01 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87sgeqbh56.fsf@kyleam.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:32:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87sgeqbh56.fsf@kyleam.com> (Kyle Meyer's message of "Sat, 20 Jun 2020 02:33:25 +0000") Message-ID: <87mu3wibt2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Kyle Meyer writes: > A specific case where using HELP instead of CAPABILITIES causes an issue > is with public-inbox's [2] NNTP service, such as the one hosted at > . public-inbox doesn't include [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Kyle Meyer writes: > A specific case where using HELP instead of CAPABILITIES causes an issue > is with public-inbox's [2] NNTP service, such as the one hosted at > . public-inbox doesn't include a list of > commands in its HELP output. That is, it's not following the > convention, but it is still following the specification. Because > nntp-open-connection tries to detect capabilities with HELP, it doesn't > catch the properly advertised STARTTLS capability and fails to upgrade > to a TLS connection. > > I'm guessing that the server from bug#12763 didn't recognize > CAPABILITIES because it was based on RFC 977. However, given RFC 3977 > supersedes 977 and is from 2006, does it make sense at this point to > assume CAPABILITIES is supported? Yeah, nntp.el should really use CAPABILITIES here, but working around buggy NNTP software (i.e., Typhoon) would also be nice... because NNTP servers don't exactly get updated a lot these days. Hm... I think I see a way to do both here: `open-network-stream' today only takes a string as a capability command, so we can't send different commands based on the server software. But we could easily extend that function to allow taking a function, and use the greeting as the input parameter, and then do HELP for Typhoon and CAPABILITIES for everything else. I'll give that a whirl and see how it goes... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Wed Sep 10 10:35:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#41960: nntp.el: Switch back to CAPABILITIES command? Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 00:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41960 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kyle Meyer Cc: 41960@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 41960-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41960.159512030724911 (code B ref 41960); Sun, 19 Jul 2020 00:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 41960) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 00:58:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59512 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxes-0006Tj-RI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:58:27 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxeo-0006TP-BZ for 41960@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:58:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=O+KckeCbZwyzSPipGcnd66M6ednQFkmu//wgZ5m7kMI=; b=gHVZ9riKYoia8yXDiEPZvmQb2L 65cWHl/ducP+ojmsx9VTr0vp2T6iWYqBR+liTS5xQX7uFoN0QG2PrOkTd32X1qx2gDqg4Nl8cR4A1 /ijFwAEyQD79231RuxmTcXbZl+7eGGf4jAEEyqbrDJQ5q4S4A+KJ3efgvGWCudbn3obw=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxeb-0007Hb-TY; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:58:14 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87sgeqbh56.fsf@kyleam.com> <87mu3wibt2.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:58:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mu3wibt2.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:32:57 +0200") Message-ID: <87imekian3.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I'll give that a whirl and see how it goes... I had to add more support for this stuff in open-network-stream, but nothing too horrid. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I'll give that a whirl and see how it goes... I had to add more support for this stuff in open-network-stream, but nothing too horrid. So this should be fixed in Emacs 28.1 now, and nntp.el sends CAPABILITES to all servers, except Typhoon ones. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 18 20:58:29 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 00:58:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59515 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxev-0006Tx-2m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:58:29 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55168) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxet-0006TY-Mt for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:58:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=A2DwOuFEDjjehmWe3539o58wiXG62f4RRmquGCegGvg=; b=oVX+Jl/Uin0T5c1LMUv93vmpI+ k/CfuUNk6g5I0woezQWDO2QdGCdrZw2HX97zRooQ+cdq2m+sM2UIQVLjN5K509sosmGqstvaGoR7W inOH8bXONGHDOLqFq+DrSq4jO0WdfIULANE6vNjvC78DGqGyEnUJ6fwpHQok5HAdsXU8=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jwxel-0007Hk-S9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:58:22 +0200 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:58:18 +0200 Message-Id: <87h7u4iamt.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #41960 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: tags 41960 fixed close 41960 28.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 41960 fixed close 41960 28.1 quit From unknown Wed Sep 10 10:35:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#41960: nntp.el: Switch back to CAPABILITIES command? Resent-From: Kyle Meyer Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41960 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 41960@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 41960-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41960.159512422332194 (code B ref 41960); Sun, 19 Jul 2020 02:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 41960) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 02:03:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59691 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwyg3-0008NB-AE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:03:43 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com ([173.228.157.52]:63159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jwyfy-0008N0-UV for 41960@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:03:42 -0400 Received: from pb-smtp20.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A25D2CF3; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:03:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=1TYiQg3TvJ14LKppypEeIJ6SfBE=; b=O8hBPt X1RODzLxb2rhHQRZHASn+TVI45lu7LK3jo/akui0JWsIH8jT8M5phdH2HfaDdy/o RpWT68TRWH0G5UU0bEu0kn7Xp0/ZXtCPZbXQN/wyCj2r8mHrhQUrQHkMGZ8yqxxg 3PswFQRVmNECDCymDHBADufzpx3HHI96P0+AY= Received: from pb-smtp20.sea.icgroup.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAF0D2CF2; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:03:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=kyleam.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=mesmtp; bh=j0d0zYciJGFx/3+b1SR5IQ+u0KRqcUH6N9Wo6iEV+cs=; b=SxkuIY8oRkKea3KTD7CjelLfbVrUgwTOAtgEvylU9oyQPT+SNxwWJ9aC6liqRe6E/gvlo40ggAXTWXQjJuEq7Bv34q0ioLCcdrVWnA+2Grj3xQlBG+SWGLP/HrNlaclCNPkSNcSM3NRpL7KDKODHAaFD6LGCqDWxMl5kZyJF0aA= Received: from localhost (unknown [45.33.91.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pb-smtp20.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2AA1CD2CF1; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:03:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kyle@kyleam.com) From: Kyle Meyer In-Reply-To: <87imekian3.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87sgeqbh56.fsf@kyleam.com> <87mu3wibt2.fsf@gnus.org> <87imekian3.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 22:03:33 -0400 Message-ID: <87lfjgdzwq.fsf@kyleam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Pobox-Relay-ID: 0DB20C10-C964-11EA-B1F9-F0EA2EB3C613-24757444!pb-smtp20.pobox.com X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> I'll give that a whirl and see how it goes... > > I had to add more support for this stuff in open-network-stream, but > nothing too horrid. > > So this should be fixed in Emacs 28.1 now, and nntp.el sends CAPABILITES > to all servers, except Typhoon ones. Great. Thank you!