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Organization: LINKOV.NET References: Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:20:15 +0300 In-Reply-To: (ej32u's message of "Wed, 17 Jun 2020 03:23:30 +0000") Message-ID: <87eeqde720.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.198; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay6-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/17 17:25:41 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) > This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols names > with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name underneath. > This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-buffers, such as when > writing the init file. Thanks, this is a nice idea. Your patch allows to copy the symbol by M-w and paste into a program as a symbol. The same idea should be used in 'describe-mode' (C-h m) as well where mode names should be symbols underneath displayed capitalized strings. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 18 18:53:59 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jun 2020 22:53:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jm3Pz-0005e3-35 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:53:59 -0400 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.201]:39663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jm3Pt-0005dj-8R for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:53:56 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.108.6 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-108-6.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.108.6]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA4981BF203; Thu, 18 Jun 2020 22:53:46 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87eeqde720.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:44:10 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87eeqde720.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Thu, 18 Jun 2020 00:20:15 +0300") Message-ID: <87eeqcnged.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >> This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols names >> with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name underneath. >> This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-buffers, such as when >> writing the init file. > > Thanks, this is a nice idea. Your patch allows to copy the symbol by M-w > and paste into a program as a symbol. But what happens when a variable name is expanded in the customization buffer? (expanded in the sense that the down arrow is displayed before it) It seems the name displayed as a symbol, not as a human-readable string. 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To: Juri Linkov Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000f92ff205ae8fbc03" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000f92ff205ae8fbc03 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f92ff105ae8fbc01" --000000000000f92ff105ae8fbc01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Juri Linkov writes: >>> This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols names >>> with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name underneath. >>> This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-buffers, such as when >>> writing the init file. >> >> Thanks, this is a nice idea. Your patch allows to copy the symbol by M-w >> and paste into a program as a symbol. > > But what happens when a variable name is expanded in the customization buffer? > (expanded in the sense that the down arrow is displayed before it) > It seems the name displayed as a symbol, not as a human-readable string. Hello Juri. I think the problem you see is easily fixed with the attached patch. --000000000000f92ff105ae8fbc01 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:

>>> This patch = changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols names
>>>= ; with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name u= nderneath.
>>> This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-b= uffers, such as when
>>> writing the init file.
>>
= >> Thanks, this is a nice idea.=C2=A0 Your patch allows to copy the s= ymbol by M-w
>> and paste into a program as a symbol.
>
&= gt; But what happens when a variable name is expanded in the customization = buffer?
> (expanded in the sense that the down arrow is displayed bef= ore it)
> It seems the name displayed as a symbol, not as a human-rea= dable string.

Hello Juri.

I think the problem you see is easi= ly fixed with the attached patch.
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References: X-Now-Playing: Thomas Mery's _Les couleurs, les ombres_: "Du sirop" Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:12:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (ej32u@protonmail.com's message of "Wed, 17 Jun 2020 03:23:30 +0000") Message-ID: <87tuwc777t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: ej32u@protonmail.com writes: > This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols > names with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name > underneath. This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-b [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) ej32u@protonmail.com writes: > This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols > names with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name > underneath. This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-buffers, > such as when writing the init file. 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References: X-Now-Playing: Thomas Mery's _Les couleurs, les ombres_: "Du sirop" Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:13:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sat, 5 Sep 2020 09:00:45 -0300") Message-ID: <87pn70776p.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > I think the problem you see is easily fixed with the attached patch. Thanks; applied to Emacs 28. 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To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d4233f05ae906fcf" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000d4233f05ae906fcf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > ej32u@protonmail.com writes: > >> This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols >> names with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name >> underneath. This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-buffers, >> such as when writing the init file. > > Makes sense to me, so I've applied this to Emacs 28. I think this change broke `C-h S' in Custom buffers: emacs -Q M-x customize-option RET fill-column Put point in Fill Column C-h S You get prompted with: Describe symbol (default Hide-fill-column), which is of course undocumented. Before, the prompt was: Describe symbol (default Fill-Column), and typing RET would open an Info buffer without problems. I'm not saying the change is bad. I was just trying to see if this change will fulfill the request in Bug#400, and I guess it does: C-h v seems to work just fine, but I guess info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol wasn't ready for the change. --000000000000d4233f05ae906fcf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars Ingebrigtsen <la= rsi@gnus.org> writes:

> ej32u@protonmail.com writes:
>
>> This patch chang= es custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols
>> names with th= e "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name
>>= ; underneath. This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-buffers,
&g= t;> such as when writing the init file.
>
> Makes sense to m= e, so I've applied this to Emacs 28.

I think this change broke `= C-h S' in Custom buffers:
emacs -Q
M-x customize-option RET fill-= column
Put point in Fill Column
C-h S
You get prompted with: Descr= ibe symbol (default Hide-fill-column), which
is of course undocumented.<= br>Before, the prompt was:
Describe symbol (default Fill-Column), and ty= ping RET would open an Info
buffer without problems.

I'm not = saying the change is bad.=C2=A0 I was just trying to see if this
change = will fulfill the request in Bug#400, and I guess it does: C-h v
seems to= work just fine, but I guess info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol
wasn't = ready for the change.
--000000000000d4233f05ae906fcf-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 08:56:31 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 12:56:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41820 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEXk7-0006Gy-Hh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 08:56:31 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33040) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEXk6-0006Gl-3Y for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 08:56:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tpBZ7FW/Me1PKbhvcbk++wh+cpNTFNNxA5TkkEFXRJE=; b=mXaczmhWCU4nPmE+cZ5k2vT/es ANeWfYdzwYi4LVC3oNio3ip/IMTekFgd94mNiEt9UFSbc0GoitohZcTLPIMcd5MiHDOtRXknwpSeI nkP/U3w4tQispy5/daIOADqSJGBDgZyqcCYs0rMiLArx6lN/NS6hlLc6To58K2r1yd44=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEXjx-0003pE-D7; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:56:24 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: >>> This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols >>> names with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name >>> underneath. This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: >>> This patch changes custom-unlispify-menu-entry to display symbols >>> names with the "display" text property, but to keep the symbol name >>> underneath. This is good when using try-expand-dabbrev-all-buffers, >>> such as when writing the init file. >> >> Makes sense to me, so I've applied this to Emacs 28. > > I think this change broke `C-h S' in Custom buffers: [...] > I'm not saying the change is bad. I was just trying to see if this > change will fulfill the request in Bug#400, and I guess it does: C-h v > seems to work just fine, but I guess info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol > wasn't ready for the change. Nope. Would fixing info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol here be a lot of work? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 09:09:04 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 13:09:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41830 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEXwG-0006Zc-2i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:09:04 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f53.google.com ([209.85.128.53]:51016) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEXwE-0006Z9-4H for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:09:02 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f53.google.com with SMTP id e17so9203362wme.0 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:09:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=topo7dU9KBhHhrB5HUNbWjWgQUhsWXcdG2SSCMWI25Q=; b=YHRHJSVW+PBsP+fBwfVj/Fe8gLuJNzBLu9yO3/P2bLX65TFdcJ2UmfXgxnon8BHCx9 iOyHon1vNLgDVGsOOfajxJUPnJNECnuXvVf/UYGS8xWc5gpQM8Oa8lnDIo50EBmKbR4Y 2duGZzDXbsO83WtYUk0KTTN+urSph/i13xLcTObaEMyxv7jjyR4RWfiSg6nMJ0kbzY4W 8bunpzA/NrT2pveUkizJ1BVhhCiPChYqN0IAPNuX2bwmTh16vhXNT3+9O2rsFtTbBMeE 6ZoXu0ydyhXD9bj3bBsuJc0wTtknkaYAyj3enwHui/fQb7EcRmmoaDni0wtQAYyAW/oD D3Lg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=topo7dU9KBhHhrB5HUNbWjWgQUhsWXcdG2SSCMWI25Q=; b=L21UQpe+ooFg6BTb0yRzHproj3C2UYhg9RntXPVYoCJaTaDUQLtHV9oW4LTPollLs1 lUjBK9rhG0IcTSwBkJofvGO30mj9QC9EmpeaVQ+XgAPxAZ/eH0qE5k5Re5Dnu7QtFGWE pHnl9cVqrOd3hmcYOD3UPS9GXrEqw0+IyG6AKuBmtdkFp2LE8FC6zSiyx7MODu94sWM4 cVaGywI81g0oDc9f4kmTMlV/PEEHrq6iMa4qQ0HWYAhcYGHFsK6nGWE+ZYzB1OuqFZ4K XaMlXk1iUprq7njCvtyBX+DbiJsFRxWeUzKmqfnxz2ES4gWDjGyegiT9CHojEQu1e5fZ HV/A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531s8cQh+y5FTUtHv90csQVZsLWfo4/CoU6c1d86ia8sS0ABtdJg Cdr08vjv/W0AwhYekHvMoTuKOw98TqpgUTdNWwE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx2744u8QqvwnvZ7kLJiuvGlnVmco79g8Z02ZC++vsjWI6U5hgH6ipBNp2O1Oo8jAUgeLhPDgEF+3eb/uEtzm0= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c925:: with SMTP id h5mr11833261wml.28.1599311336332; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:08:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 10:08:44 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000016602205ae90b039" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000016602205ae90b039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: >> I'm not saying the change is bad. I was just trying to see if this >> change will fulfill the request in Bug#400, and I guess it does: C-h v >> seems to work just fine, but I guess info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol >> wasn't ready for the change. > > Nope. Would fixing info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol here be a lot of work? I'm guessing no, because it shouldn't have to guess anymore...but I'm not familiar with it. --00000000000016602205ae90b039 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars Ingebrigtsen <la= rsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:

>= > I'm not saying the change is bad.=C2=A0 I was just trying to see i= f this
>> change will fulfill the request in Bug#400, and I guess = it does: C-h v
>> seems to work just fine, but I guess info-lookup= -guess-custom-symbol
>> wasn't ready for the change.
>> Nope.=C2=A0 Would fixing info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol here be a l= ot of work?

I'm guessing no, because it shouldn't have to gu= ess anymore...but I'm
not familiar with it.
--00000000000016602205ae90b039-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 09:12:41 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 13:12:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41841 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEXzk-0006f6-SC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:12:41 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com ([209.85.221.50]:41512) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEXzj-0006es-30 for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:12:40 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id w5so10107177wrp.8 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:12:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VLZejhsyfuv3U80OGYfvjWbxvaBLHbJeDaCVK3icpgc=; b=i9UndzxFZCnWNUUlO94I8QpGt4Mnwwsd7VMszWvfM1YaQogWLgvvUKc72UgGzFaBFh fBW4R8HGNFHx1FPgRpES1HWFGMEtkZyezNlHAKTIGcbBjO5qVtYQEiDHCgXH6owxOOAl eYWdmRyIlU/idxR7dVpI5v3nSgiMfSiwDPoyu/NwTgmg8UCr+8z39ZM87EiFa09OtxtB 13SeMjZn10vwkZKgprAlUUg8M3vi++zeJ2R2jxvhhLVpkysrVFvQpDn0UOkMVAuwfTty QvOsKCWBdTV4LuKYBjvv/8hBtoCwKOFfw1fUO+VroOBYAhomg8CJccWlCLn2ZFXloDLC n1UA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VLZejhsyfuv3U80OGYfvjWbxvaBLHbJeDaCVK3icpgc=; b=rXuUBeC5EokUIA2JlAkTW1jbuDOy8FV2TfDhC7t8i0iqBgbwjHzVQNyO/qfCP5+B02 Yp444OgbxZyFwmaxXRBWkbl0hNWKygS6MwNGZaK4XSC/q293uxq7uQGUobVHczuq/2vQ Nxq+VQz9p+g1K4xozmeL+WHVIm/mzIyWlQWjGbOTQOwVMh1MilUJqxYNaW+e33ArtOhN T9Yi0iipp3Goh50RoiUV0v5eZ2yiDIXussqeEgdCbYTDlxrgJUgg+00JY+EIdatRB205 u6MAeNtoT7OTigluR+b9SCh0ESM5gr/lMxK+k6BkgP+cDv4bxPvv7TbZ+kddjIwlk2rT +HVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530odiCMtRL0NjBCOHJ9frtfc8daJ3tmCncZMKJ77Q3ed4klxWLW peZ6lyOUiSmJO27FSMP4BcDesTOYSEIcwX4gZ8Y= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyo05Pdn25mM5xZ/3ugYKcX15F2df7QYTTiV0VdqmYtVyeuBboh2UJOxyNn6ZFsVquVRbo2tbMyMjlB3MdyopM= X-Received: by 2002:adf:ec86:: with SMTP id z6mr12491780wrn.109.1599311553338; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:12:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 10:12:21 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000005a04b05ae90bd24" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000005a04b05ae90bd24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Mauro Aranda writes: > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > >> Mauro Aranda writes: > >>> I'm not saying the change is bad. I was just trying to see if this >>> change will fulfill the request in Bug#400, and I guess it does: C-h v >>> seems to work just fine, but I guess info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol >>> wasn't ready for the change. >> >> Nope. Would fixing info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol here be a lot of work? > > I'm guessing no, because it shouldn't have to guess anymore...but I'm > not familiar with it. I did the obvious: commented out the :parse-rule line in info-lookup-maybe-add-help for the :mode 'Custom-mode, and looks like its working again. --00000000000005a04b05ae90bd24 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <<= a href=3D"mailto:larsi@gnus.org">larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
= >> Mauro Aranda <maurooa= randa@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> I'm not saying = the change is bad.=C2=A0 I was just trying to see if this
>>> c= hange will fulfill the request in Bug#400, and I guess it does: C-h v
&g= t;>> seems to work just fine, but I guess info-lookup-guess-custom-sy= mbol
>>> wasn't ready for the change.
>>
>&g= t; Nope.=C2=A0 Would fixing info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol here be a lot o= f work?
>
> I'm guessing no, because it shouldn't have = to guess anymore...but I'm
> not familiar with it.

I did t= he obvious: commented out the :parse-rule line in
info-lookup-maybe-add-= help for the :mode 'Custom-mode, and looks like
its working again. --00000000000005a04b05ae90bd24-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 09:24:41 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 13:24:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41968 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYBN-00071M-JY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:24:41 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33392) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYBL-000716-N5 for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:24:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zonzlXR8cKt+CKbVqYJQu7ul/NTNQSiK8ZthbI2JYp0=; b=rKMwuc132OanWiIJOsJLHXohxN hyJoLp89FWESuWmeSpPdhOKrEKz4vaX5eiQjyZ6fejw/HBj9X7pfdH8T12XJvrEve6fQZSfKEfW9l G1Ew6MkEKYumthiBa3MpqhFKVFHFlqseDGKxJ1cHBwf9+VSacS0GANRPZwrp8dRmje6s=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYBB-00044p-JL; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:24:33 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: RATN's _J_: =?utf-8?B?IuOBguOBqOOCguOBhuS4gOWbnuOBoOOBkSI=?= Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:24:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sat, 5 Sep 2020 10:08:44 -0300") Message-ID: <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: >> Nope. Would fixing info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol here be a lot of work? > > I'm guessing no, because it shouldn't have to guess anymore...but I'm > not familiar with it. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Mauro Aranda writes: >> Nope. Would fixing info-lookup-guess-custom-symbol here be a lot of work? > > I'm guessing no, because it shouldn't have to guess anymore...but I'm > not familiar with it. Actually... Is this a regression? 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After the patch, it says "Hide-fill-column", which doesn't exist either, but which is basically the same bug -- which is that there's an invisible string "Hide" before the "Fill Column". Hm... Oh! If I move point into "Fill Column", then it guesses correctly, but if point is at the "F", then it includes the invisible "Hide". The design choices taken in the library here are pretty odd -- transforming symbols to readable forms and then "guessing" to transform them back, instead of just stashing the real data for easy retrieval... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 09:48:40 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 13:48:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYYa-0001LY-Jl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:48:40 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f45.google.com ([209.85.221.45]:42264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYYY-0001LL-7D for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:48:38 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f45.google.com with SMTP id c18so10144944wrm.9 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:48:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ETxy9EcBl56OwhpvVHcQsvA6MyfZRkdlVljcRKaLDPc=; b=mllcIDbfF9ynt5gottHAYbvdijp1jNbcERGzcJkszgtgUGwikCD0ALJe7+uh7XW9Rk zTMHRu+cvbTZXiMde3soouZauuhfpwkWoFe0Hl3SCLb3RpNnqC3mEhiXoFZUOSt8puwK CSiZ1Rt+wkm4fuT7HHyxDbPLAJsEa829de9mvyv0canOquVfTpTXYyIPZC79kWsG71kl uUdPgSXNFDfuuDPJJWgznYn4Cg6Af3SzaqpvX+GcysWjfyn41IXHpPjiHzcpyWqOlraQ +zigDwA/AjlBzPcT41iElECy2POEYOqvHyTrCyPYSR+FqSkynEEMFJqHCy5VVWLTqQv2 27CQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ETxy9EcBl56OwhpvVHcQsvA6MyfZRkdlVljcRKaLDPc=; b=R7kRKzf2kpDYKVwqc6UtW0lRgD37iIrgTuubDscQOrsNSTYpSttXqvZafeHMzmghjn 1aSaTBqEA1PJda093NFzib8dbSwveMsNWwxe457UVyndJCkMTllRwkYB639J/4Yl6Jjp 6n1mAQvlnN/KLFib8vpCjGfVTASzdIesMEqvutlfYL0Gby5jVurUMqDTv9NMnoRVtdcL csmL8G7CjWhJWUGog30p79EhuqFW9I22XoZOdw02H1GgI/K6/xfsZGMl1Q/PlJUz2ySU Jp0fe3WLwWtNJ4zxDFQYkzOEoHkI2qb+J2ODEsYczJLCT+j1THfvph8Z3ImDuCzXUx4K zbKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532KLLZyDR5FFu+QE2X4nf7nVdZYmYKurcGCn4iMJaNvO/6gu4Cr zN0y8LjTIWQABoS/sil12fO0+nQfxO+lnsbffaI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxTKjCUVuwKU9Q8iiPkAyhKi0STmSIqwKa1iCEQ/HcQWqzockGfu7eOdBaFueqA948FtiCq2PxxWxOWuJD3b7A= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f290:: with SMTP id k16mr13258960wro.124.1599313712238; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 06:48:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 10:48:20 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000b3d2e005ae913dc1" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000b3d2e005ae913dc1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > After the patch, it says "Hide-fill-column", which doesn't exist either, > but which is basically the same bug -- which is that there's an > invisible string "Hide" before the "Fill Column". > > Hm... Oh! If I move point into "Fill Column", then it guesses > correctly, but if point is at the "F", then it includes the invisible > "Hide". You are right. So this patch didn't break `C-h S' at all, it just made the bug a lot more visible. Anyway, my lightly testing shows that perhaps relying on the :regexp and not providing :parse-rule could be enough. --000000000000b3d2e005ae913dc1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars Ingebrigtsen <la= rsi@gnus.org> writes:

> After the patch, it says "Hid= e-fill-column", which doesn't exist either,
> but which is b= asically the same bug -- which is that there's an
> invisible str= ing "Hide" before the "Fill Column".
>
> Hm= ...=C2=A0 Oh!=C2=A0 If I move point into "Fill Column", then it g= uesses
> correctly, but if point is at the "F", then it inc= ludes the invisible
> "Hide".

You are right.=C2=A0 S= o this patch didn't break `C-h S' at all, it just made
the bug a= lot more visible.

Anyway, my lightly testing shows that perhaps rel= ying on the :regexp and
not providing :parse-rule could be enough.
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > You are right. So this patch didn't break `C-h S' at all, it just made > the bug a lot more visible. > > Anyway, my lightly testing shows that perhaps relying on the :regexp and > not providing :par [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > You are right. So this patch didn't break `C-h S' at all, it just made > the bug a lot more visible. > > Anyway, my lightly testing shows that perhaps relying on the :regexp and > not providing :parse-rule could be enough. Could you whip up a patch for that? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 10:16:29 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 14:16:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYzU-0005sR-GE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:16:28 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f51.google.com ([209.85.128.51]:50975) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYzP-0005je-Nh for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:16:27 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f51.google.com with SMTP id e17so9290275wme.0 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 07:16:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QRjnxlBQntZ2oQPfZQWT3l6Pp7CVbGQ29LlCmsB2efA=; b=A+1sllOGh3pCLdwJsujs11c2BKiowa+ukvd/c4/2YlyM7IlccvGv6K3LsjMUv+xUgw aWPQv/2ltSqHm95eKAjhNT213Hoz9aH6gRyF6TMExWYfPUPWXIr/RZg7mBSrg3KSRj6G vw7SFuvhvuZu5FHl+FGSytXfLTnSWJaTFvHg1hiS5KpHEqHhkEtSYRjaxzocCiBz6eaD X22BoEfVmg4dY9WhAd2Cf07+vQvgIuBjJFaW8S5qO71hc3eZG3cxRMAgiz+Zc+MnqES/ 3AlQofZayPNpCXxif7PxDFVIZBQ8BDUz8GzchXsqv5WnKjekPXNHYaxuGgnETHvAH7L3 wcEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QRjnxlBQntZ2oQPfZQWT3l6Pp7CVbGQ29LlCmsB2efA=; b=IYvv40r/H2B/8ffjU4LAywJZNjqlh0CX5M+HxB9raSI7OT2xSt9kcAF8wik+BVqzl7 Vr/8pQFqCQYWQX6KhT7rN0zFs1vyl6/lUJZuKzkya7bapHEpQe9sqeE8lzAHMDhXqvju Ap6UQKL+6fLIFM22CEi+y9xBkFDa7Cs0iNWGos5q3RYlozrMbbRyaatLR9n9niiZIl4a LJEnd/8bmt1PavSVmup/7ErxGur5WCc/jDaeOA5V8pCwrWJytrOuyW9jBz+cTi6AcehV 4OpfRUhRwnm5fKyoTtYu9f7yPZPUTfPAk6/BsHl8N/YoTnCnmGeokHWTd1cGIqleS+uz o3lw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531fTkmn5uYIKATtWRQuZKBGy/KWd7Qy21cCJQ0N7NdsSnT4JyyN HRO2C2RegqRVnE4SfTmvN7q/wqRxWLgZRsndIf8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJywMhf5aj0DR4W5STcg0O/zzF6Y+Eg5p3kz5/OBh27Mmi7BKar8JjP4fZMlDO5lqIhOuuGV/DbeM7PVgzZW9/Y= X-Received: by 2002:a7b:c925:: with SMTP id h5mr12034600wml.28.1599315377898; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 07:16:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 11:16:05 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000fbe10805ae91a0ab" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000fbe10805ae91a0ab Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fbe10605ae91a0a9" --000000000000fbe10605ae91a0a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> You are right. So this patch didn't break `C-h S' at all, it just made >> the bug a lot more visible. >> >> Anyway, my lightly testing shows that perhaps relying on the :regexp and >> not providing :parse-rule could be enough. > > Could you whip up a patch for that? Sure, here is the patch I'm running with --000000000000fbe10605ae91a0a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars Ingebrigtsen <la= rsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
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>> not providing :parse-rule could be enough.
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>= ; Could you whip up a patch for that?

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References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Y Pants's _Beat It Down_: "Obvious" Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 16:36:47 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sat, 5 Sep 2020 11:16:05 -0300") Message-ID: <87a6y447eo.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > Sure, here is the patch I'm running with Thanks, that makes C-h S use the correct string. 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Perhaps it should strip all text properties before being used? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 10:58:50 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 14:58:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43816 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZeT-0001b8-UN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:58:50 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com ([209.85.221.43]:35890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZeR-0001av-Hn for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:58:47 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id z1so10318497wrt.3 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 07:58:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Z6KUD1sLTFYgJz4ZloHYvdgARC7QYTZ+yOQ/4dEdDc4=; b=RfXobExNyQd1sfw3Qy1qXB9h3RmCauL+TjV0Gmp413xGhB2iIH+BTXLTxepFlNo7vn odrPU0NNPwC/4+Zn8raIIsmHJ6h416m6QWD6HGrwFMK8W9yOqGwilDH879Jhtxl/JhLp gZoLcsBBWldguZbgyEVtmd/xiocZQdV6RfHyHL1U7/mgHWllRgw1Vo7h9LkCiTVgvDU3 6z239oEnmxt8GjT0yUiwgZtv1cuGH4jeulDzJfYJrrAg+u3t/Vpr5cnv7wYfiaoQpPTB EaxrAHDNaizyKrAiRC3JW24keblEw0RrRSgR70Z2qkwGuSLMv7eYBeVWS9YNhHPKiTmp Fs9w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Z6KUD1sLTFYgJz4ZloHYvdgARC7QYTZ+yOQ/4dEdDc4=; b=Euovt/ZUrO6BJYiW7dV6hT1mpn4aYkNHp+ZR5Zluta07cgBX0r/nKkfrAaoRGmaFtZ xXfPdcmLnoFpEoq1WzitRcjwddzm+GlVoWpa1WdVVBSpjw7b9S5YChv8rs8n9KOgV2wo MihKeRQtXA3dDJnwp2kf1epOgcQDqxX7Y2MfwM7RYtNuZxYItwS47gwYNI9++BT/CanL KvTtduTPethL4aeJZcK43po94UJgN9+80TwaEKU5czOvRPh5zdLc6IuR0qE+w5vpqTNa S06eT82eejPJEzBLcBtbdwoqJLhYoY8ErsHz0A4TFIT4g2s6bN8Xz0cW0q0dx5rgVwxH zdJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532nITNuKGDJ0e+CXWoQ5jUYysRWKmBTxBOsv0KWzSrHnIl9suej iOnC8bqkezj/6v38GbfsqfCRTwe1z3hYX3QBy5Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw6XcrjmyDiy6MgPYgKZZmgDnr5YxDXalFv+Vfelu20Pja1y00Ox2BxnUbiEDceQFlJ2TfTCCPbTETQ9WtX8Rk= X-Received: by 2002:adf:dcc3:: with SMTP id x3mr12445924wrm.120.1599317921633; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 07:58:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y447eo.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87a6y447eo.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 11:58:29 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000009a362c05ae9238c1" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --0000000000009a362c05ae9238c1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009a362b05ae9238bf" --0000000000009a362b05ae9238bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> Sure, here is the patch I'm running with > > Thanks, that makes C-h S use the correct string. However, the prompt is > confusing: [...] > Because it's using the string from the buffer... including the 'display > text property. Perhaps it should strip all text properties before being > used? 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> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
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Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:08:02 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 085F5H2n187182; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 15:08:01 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 33c20hugp6-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:08:01 +0000 Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 085F7wjk021399; Sat, 5 Sep 2020 15:07:59 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 08:07:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Mauro Aranda , Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: RE: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5044.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9735 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=993 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009050147 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9735 signatures=668679 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 priorityscore=1501 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxlogscore=999 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009050147 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Sure, here is the patch I'm running with Isn't this comment part of the patch wrong? +;; We don't need this anymore, because now Custom inserts the unlispified = name +;; in the buffer. (Bug#41905) Isn't the fix that it now inserts the _lispified_ name? ____ Anyway, thanks to all for working on this bug. - OP for bug #400 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 11:09:08 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 15:09:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZoR-0001s4-Pm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:09:07 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZoP-0001rT-SF for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:09:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=oQ7ENXO5pX7Nv2W/SyDbqrCCyYHXxXtpbo6PnkcspLk=; b=QGnreNm5454a/mhY+1W4faJuwM DbvrP25SG4h1ZDVgM5MnDL2F49VvMmQqLf50+KPnHMwMsWKdWlmbIuuZLMqeYZHA4aQwBm8VukTa2 UjdH97ScE8tHlEou91+7KsMDVqGMfgpnqjZGVJJdljXcyfPoFb2yAGAOhRIaGyz8KaME=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZo9-0004yC-6o; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 17:08:59 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y447eo.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: RATN's _J.E.P._: "Once Again" Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 17:08:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sat, 5 Sep 2020 11:58:29 -0300") Message-ID: <87r1rg2rcv.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > Then I guess we must change info-lookup-interactive-arguments to do that. Thanks; applied to Emacs 28 with one small change: Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > Then I guess we must change info-lookup-interactive-arguments to do that. Thanks; applied to Emacs 28 with one small change: > - (format "Describe %s (default %s): " topic default) > + (progn (set-text-properties 0 (length default) nil default) > + (format "Describe %s (default %s): " topic default)) I changed this to use substring-no-properties instead of set-text-properties. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 11:20:30 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 15:20:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43858 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZzR-0004M9-Sy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:20:30 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34994) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZzP-0004Lu-Ij for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:20:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=GzEGcb7YGp8JBWMfwDFpafB8uQPFnvWACFI6ilIhGWU=; b=gP5c8RFid09daNY5pPIOzFpmEQ BwRiODIi1mPmCgfuNPaS1o8RUa4LlXF3s9rsDGhM+mg3Xf3YbueI6fCDG1jnZd74knvWItOSCmzCK GdgHLy41SDPfuelXNAn7j4a9u/FRYMDOkHu9+cfuE6LpYVaUQzW1clMEs4L4KCQ1Akqc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEZzG-00057H-VX; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 17:20:21 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: After all that work, I think we'll have to revert this, anyway. The string returned here isn't just used in the buffers themselves, but also in the buffer names, so this fails: (ert-deftest so-long-tests-customize () "Test the `so-long-customize' command." (so-long-customize) (should (string= (buffer-name) "*Customize Group: So Long*"))) Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) After all that work, I think we'll have to revert this, anyway. The string returned here isn't just used in the buffers themselves, but also in the buffer names, so this fails: (ert-deftest so-long-tests-customize () "Test the `so-long-customize' command." (so-long-customize) (should (string= (buffer-name) "*Customize Group: So Long*"))) *sigh* Or... we could work some more on this to fix these use cases. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 11:27:16 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 15:27:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43881 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEa5z-0004X2-R3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:27:16 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEa5x-0004Wo-NN for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:27:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eVdRzk5w2Fk1Evz6biZQRoBqXG8pVrjiJnLOIw+Fh3Y=; b=QaE6WOzfnuvtv+lTwy8syO4x0u WXU30tmHgJI2fcYlcSIcjW2pLudJlfgZNXl04gFdtv9UJt99YN+nyFMyACvGhdZXq6tJ4eNSj/uLj 3KfLh9cJS8UjEJLCpsRTq1Dqbsn50loP0QZeR25Swl2vpd60p9lVEKUbCVJqwn9C/sy0=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEa5o-00058t-MF; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 17:27:07 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Or... we could work some more on this to fix these use cases. Looking more at this, I think returning a 'display string here is just wrong in most use cases, so I've reverted the patch (and Mauro's follow-up patch that fixed some issues with the patch). Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Or... we could work some more on this to fix these use cases. Looking more at this, I think returning a 'display string here is just wrong in most use cases, so I've reverted the patch (and Mauro's follow-up patch that fixed some issues with the patch). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 11:32:12 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 15:32:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43890 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEaAm-0004fP-K7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:32:12 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f41.google.com ([209.85.128.41]:39212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEaAl-0004ez-0d for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 11:32:11 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f41.google.com with SMTP id b79so9384193wmb.4 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 08:32:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ePtzEUqVCqaopIMa4UxalgAuXxsgurTCvwwi5rt5eHc=; b=t5bXN93ETPCa7ngPFUNqzrI+Poe5TIEjKnIcpyvXBa0+vmiEkq67/dg3/V6avHYoeP jHqUHsg2WKdB42Yfxkj8J/OZ+et7hhK65DQlwam4Y5Foy6/2P/ULycBhmC+dAsU5iY/P kJPaIcnnVHZSQzBhs2TzMKShhk+3FJo3Hne3BbwNzzsNbsBe5mOD6ZU+YK4YNZwkkbfV bx+Pu0fCa5v2IlOIzF3s86q19kAEW1ExWDC0yctTxuGQ9FoHhnncddUlIlnMYvsfZkTH AmBXQmwv8xx5hZuSW+AlPx/qReSvvXPClRWtkYGCk/QJSGHp+HWCVQpoAD1/ZOhxNTV0 i9tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ePtzEUqVCqaopIMa4UxalgAuXxsgurTCvwwi5rt5eHc=; b=e4fn7FKDxuhUOwyidC42Ij7oLpBavbcOtwEge5GRR3IjdOesX8wUGwUCZd+lUshgsT yEJh6iLO71Rtaf249iNAPc91/lXIwGCqVHZhPSh1+gWwSP/BLXK8JAiH386Bvtd8TgxT ZtQz/b9GWnyNYDJjCK5kalcXijLA+UWjS4arAOk+8jsWNcnNWs/76gP09T8S3QP0ViXj jIpIMrTXsQTl925GecT3haU4qaRmnN4cWDYD7ixTxObHNm3AHFecu7LF7gZd8feWyTVb RzSb53QbpgUx0N5pRbscl9yoTXEdvCXVS+XAj5573H30ZPYvjn3rVRN5+9LKZR03v6fQ Gu5w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530GF4we8Kk+VGBCAo+3DzZD4W374lDPdNa0RDckhVLUuC9Fmv5U uvQaZ9QuWAklUfC5eGky52tZe/jL88dtQMYGca0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxVtIQdtmNUG6cg0CaRFUw51NaoEKGfBkHHPcWyqSFNJbGpj9JLS/rgyff8GYc36D7L9T9P9e5IXLfDX1llKpQ= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:1b43:: with SMTP id b64mr13081314wmb.6.1599319925051; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 12:31:52 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Drew Adams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000003d57b05ae92b02b" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000003d57b05ae92b02b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Drew Adams writes: >> Sure, here is the patch I'm running with > > Isn't this comment part of the patch wrong? > > +;; We don't need this anymore, because now Custom inserts the unlispified name > +;; in the buffer. (Bug#41905) > > > Isn't the fix that it now inserts the _lispified_ name? > Yes, it was wrong, thank you. But this was reverted, so it's all moot now. > > Anyway, thanks to all for working on this bug. > > - OP for bug #400 Looks like we're back to where we started, though :-( --00000000000003d57b05ae92b02b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Drew Adams <dr= ew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> Sure, here is the patch= I'm running with
>
> Isn't this comment part of the pa= tch wrong?
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> +;; We don't need this anymore, because now = Custom inserts the unlispified name
> +;; in the buffer. =C2=A0(Bug#4= 1905)
>
>
> Isn't the fix that it now inserts the _li= spified_ name?
>

Yes, it was wrong, thank you.=C2=A0 But this = was reverted, so it's all moot now.

>
> Anyway, thanks = to all for working on this bug.
>
> =C2=A0 - OP for bug #400
Looks like we're back to where we started, though :-(
--00000000000003d57b05ae92b02b-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 05 12:37:57 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 16:37:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEbCO-0006D4-Sj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 12:37:57 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEbCM-0006Cp-5n for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 12:37:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5ejotV1Tcyc/f+wkjzb+aSbjFDIYEVdOkXkpcPrTmUM=; b=nwKthIeo0kC1EXK8cDtbTSu4pb PHb1xmvT0VLuiXb4MmcuTrbE7kSHhyDnaCz3ChKVSOZhwvxrzpbqEf8je7TUQfQrQGe63zGyH8g+U kR61dHgWOJqP7mWusKYdpp/itQ4Msf48lLk8SMGPNlYZ1KmVgovxyJtsV7310qxdjMhE=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEbCC-0005gV-9V; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 18:37:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > Looks like we're back to where we started, though :-( Yup. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > Looks like we're back to where we started, though :-( Yup. I think the solution here is to stash the data needed somewhere so that we don't need to guessing round trip. The most obvious place to stash the data is in the string itself, so custom-unlispify-tag-name should just put a 'data text property on the unlispified string (with the symbol), and then the relevant functions should use that instead of looking at the buffer text. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 06 08:17:43 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2020 12:17:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44952 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEtc7-0001iy-AR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 08:17:43 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:44396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEtc4-0001ij-Lj for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 08:17:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=x2psEezwnOzxTnI3drjMJMspqdGKqABqoCubTEO7gLI=; b=V+Wb6Ic8/f3ylutJz1RtkEJZ7m live+oiYnpxS5YwxDyB7HEnmp1LQLD3XM90xxrF6DrL1vHNFq8sTt67nDz7H5l1vM/2VjJ0gj8bGC qTbp9e4w6gL8bKoYHjTmr2QeSI0RiGnnojJn6Bs6XIZ6QgpzFLSBq/EBLBR7hRHPG/ec=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEtbu-00056G-2T; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:17:33 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: I've now taken another whack at this (but storing the actual symbol), and `C-h S' now works better than before, and no tests are failing. I'm not quite sure whether the change here will spill over int [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I've now taken another whack at this (but storing the actual symbol), and `C-h S' now works better than before, and no tests are failing. I'm not quite sure whether the change here will spill over into Emacs Lisp mode, but some testing seems to say that it won't... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 06 08:35:39 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2020 12:35:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45011 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEttT-0002B9-AJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 08:35:39 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f47.google.com ([209.85.221.47]:44550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEttQ-0002Ar-O5 for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 08:35:37 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f47.google.com with SMTP id c15so11826104wrs.11 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:35:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=gd8/EiYYtp7A4h7gxVHF7HOcoc/MdHmVTUyLdh3l0sI=; b=teV2FsoZUzxitd/tf45s9f68dI+LEZPV5g57QNpBn0S43aLMwmN8BxSrRIPAkIqG0M /yLBjSU0GMbmfFoicVRH0ftwHFq9T7d99R9SizDXkqoPugrqKP41IAuYtHQl8hVgn1pr tfuvDMxsrSnmJCB8oE/GITKVs2o0W6Veu/8HdBQ0YoxHRLsSxH5FLECJDlp7nbLm1no0 wtKlY9ga19RU3R24YRgfIVDYHDfB/qcx5rpCYfuOvKQvZETThZ7p7wofI2Mz/YuX35gf h7O7kGc0mjov0VHyrg+x50b7X/+6U8KxeMRLtsPWgkfh6a+7EUOGuU6PCGC32GEbhsoL 6RdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gd8/EiYYtp7A4h7gxVHF7HOcoc/MdHmVTUyLdh3l0sI=; b=X7r0VSOt6gPcLk0NUWWkDde40lyfl+/IiE6scsJ8FyyL6cgTtN3e8JoCr/CBGJp28/ nJ3uBrscbOG7lx2n7QKsTEAkEf9tXQLBcYqoi/mxkb58X1nvMP0ZXI0vYdvflsUFYO5S hELgRkqdkZzr2LgZpbHPOjJ6wZw811mHs+aNbr4V+IuCmA6EHOC1oigdGG+yJ3QM0hBq AqeMm7L+4f8J/SHplqVEQgKyW2iUFEmF0U8c8RYi5Pn6W+MeptFnlCdy/Va76E27zFKV lsFqdyhs5CWExPxGj+lQIi5UZ6mqAEsK0Hg/LUMX+q0O/mlHeqAhyS+WtMGvCOJzV5EG e/Pw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531CZ5e2Jamjaqivc+lSCAaRDjct1HAAjt05c0hMYHU7G5iYt66C yN0ayzD92mw4Ma/Bo4x4kqa5m2ykNgvdbZ5ATMQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwmhdJNF1xZs764OUe/bU2qnvqkNTwvOm573/BdGG+1eGRehB+mOsJQs8YfAjqSM40BMXEK1P725sF1K1zKzVw= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f290:: with SMTP id k16mr17720464wro.124.1599395730898; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:35:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 09:35:18 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000655c5905aea4560c" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000655c5905aea4560c Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000655c5705aea4560a" --000000000000655c5705aea4560a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I've now taken another whack at this (but storing the actual symbol), and > `C-h S' now works better than before, and no tests are failing. I'm not > quite sure whether the change here will spill over into Emacs Lisp mode, > but some testing seems to say that it won't... What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to require changes in the describe-* commands to work... So I thought we could perhaps limit the places where we propertize the string, and I came up with the attached patch. But if you still think it is the wrong way to do it, or if you like your changes better, I promise I won't insist. Note that with my patch, we'd still need the info-lookup patch from yesterday. --000000000000655c5705aea4560a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars Ingebrigtsen <la= rsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I've now taken another whack a= t this (but storing the actual symbol), and
> `C-h S' now works b= etter than before, and no tests are failing.=C2=A0 I'm not
> quit= e sure whether the change here will spill over into Emacs Lisp mode,
>= ; but some testing seems to say that it won't...

What I liked ab= out the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to
require chan= ges in the describe-* commands to work...

So I thought we could perh= aps limit the places where we propertize the
string, and I came up with = the attached patch.=C2=A0 But if you still think
it is the wrong way to = do it, or if you like your changes better, I
promise I won't insist.=

Note that with my patch, we'd still need the info-lookup patch = from
yesterday.
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References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAKlBMVEX+/v7Lyshyb2qD gXyAfnmvraoZFA0iHRZUUEpHQjw1MSpCPTcoIxz///8W+sBnAAAAAWJLR0QN9rRh9QAAAAd0SU1F B+QJBgwgBPKJ10YAAACASURBVDjLY2AYBUMICBkbG7sYuzgbOasYG6siSYSlpVXMWr161cqVu9LS spEkwtecObWqAwjmrKk5U4GsAyi+qqO7o3PVqjU1GSgSpzs6ds3s6NjR2YUiEX7mzPEVHas6ZnSV oxlVlpZWnjOzY1kaEGQiSUh0IIGmgQ68UTD0AQBxSDi16xIgDQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUA MjAyMC0wOS0wNlQxMjozMjowNCswMDowMBVFVNkAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMDkt MDZUMTI6MzI6MDQrMDA6MDBkGOxlAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Delroy Edwards & Dean Blunt's _Desert Sessions_: "(untitled)" Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:39:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sun, 6 Sep 2020 09:35:18 -0300") Message-ID: <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to > require changes in the describe-* commands to work... That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make work automatically. But 'display properties are kinda awkward -- for one, the cursor moves over them in a single skip, so they're a bit confusing in [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to > require changes in the describe-* commands to work... That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make work automatically. But 'display properties are kinda awkward -- for one, the cursor moves over them in a single skip, so they're a bit confusing in that respect. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 06 08:55:06 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2020 12:55:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45028 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEuCH-0002ca-TB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 08:55:06 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f50.google.com ([209.85.221.50]:33720) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEuCG-0002c7-4E for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 08:55:04 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f50.google.com with SMTP id m6so11934799wrn.0 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:55:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=cJ/8+4LY1Y7eupmOtciTEEvo+7Pe6KaXk+BQgazkaPY=; b=XK/YaAXSrfgdfSOSs0/6INnF1gHVnjyp3+aBheJoqR6krlEiSQ6XJmZcqEuERy+bp1 cBFX8XaHFjJ48wH2gZ7y4lwTfK1e9/Q0+CmqFZAD23Oj7Le3Dptc5Z7AvZTd9YhePl9i XseNcveg3OdUW3QHZ5+RnzF3MJ9FhAexmpwdoxQtV/vpcQtIHT4mtFGiczYTOzLgq6jR /4c41sMct34cxxnc1w5qKBc6v6M7A9IdseseKr3irUdlzzvGTOI8sD/dBhB2Rp+n1gyz 8/SEj4meQ8ACpTCFIuDoEb3lQu8UdqcInfGbZCj/l+M+Ogqzcx4yFY/MsG2hLoBumPVY F4uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cJ/8+4LY1Y7eupmOtciTEEvo+7Pe6KaXk+BQgazkaPY=; b=heqZuUhLVEA1f2ZRqkSnGnRJmSObrXJpHdqnV5jAttFUROvH5AG2DxTbAKkhHJDWtZ PrOEaUWsl1JA76pJSfkTePi3Ity3qtTVyv3TosX3tbRTkzEPqbUBkIgZZ78pXRUEmBt6 XE6Gac1zWdEi7cr57WcjWRJxbvJWxHCGgr23A7BR11iPdi90Z8Ea+XRk/FENer0sr/kr 1x9EGK3gEiFOk18zOlEryK9ItEIOJia15JMunGx9CKatN6BiOITe8BIj3KbghAjZss11 NZhQNW7jvApLtAdpThem30GRtiYGn38SYv0h+Y7xPWJ6/skFCIZAq9yZjHDqR1qSrw1C Ia/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Pz6QZQ0kRmxM32EsBSFJ8gqUnkUwe//LwdtK63l9G62P4Jl29 dz/eqQwxzrvnDEQ5zEHqPK/pbjS70c8QG7YbUR0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzxkswOW5nenDxmJF6jl7qZMJPoGdpduHAHzKkP8DpPD2Nwjr36aAyZ4+cZPq8vtThR4zphz7tsLB8q3ZtrP7s= X-Received: by 2002:a5d:5111:: with SMTP id s17mr16656285wrt.70.1599396898086; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 05:54:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 09:54:45 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000f723cb05aea49b25" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com, Drew Adams X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000f723cb05aea49b25 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Mauro Aranda writes: > >> What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to >> require changes in the describe-* commands to work... > > That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make work automatically. > But 'display properties are kinda awkward -- for one, the cursor moves > over them in a single skip, so they're a bit confusing in that respect. Yes, that's true. So...perhaps it's better to just ditch that idea. --000000000000f723cb05aea49b25 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lars Ingebrigtsen <la= rsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Mauro Aranda <maurooaranda@gmail.com> writes:
>
= >> What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't= seem to
>> require changes in the describe-* commands to work...<= br>>
> That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make work aut= omatically.
> But 'display properties are kinda awkward -- for on= e, the cursor moves
> over them in a single skip, so they're a bi= t confusing in that respect.

Yes, that's true.=C2=A0 So...perhap= s it's better to just ditch that idea.
--000000000000f723cb05aea49b25-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 06 15:09:07 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Sep 2020 19:09:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47177 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kF02F-0006F4-DV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 15:09:07 -0400 Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:58009) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kF02C-0006EY-K8 for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2020 15:09:05 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.97.241 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-97-241.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.97.241]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A9499C0002; Sun, 6 Sep 2020 19:08:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:40:36 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sun, 6 Sep 2020 09:54:45 -0300") Message-ID: <87bliiycij.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to >>> require changes in the describe-* commands to work... >> >> That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make work automatically. >> But 'display properties are kinda awkward -- for one, the cursor moves >> over them in a single skip, so they're a bit confusing in that respect. > > Yes, that's true. So...perhaps it's better to just ditch that idea. Just display spaces over every '-' character (and upper-case letters at word beginnings): (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") "ill" (propertize "-" 'display " ") (propertize "c" 'display "C") "olumn") From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 07 14:36:31 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2020 18:36:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50808 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFM0E-00026e-TH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 14:36:31 -0400 Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:43651) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFM0C-00026Q-KD for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 14:36:29 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.97.241 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-97-241.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.97.241]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay9-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1B071FF805; Mon, 7 Sep 2020 18:36:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> <87bliiycij.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2020 21:22:08 +0300 In-Reply-To: <87bliiycij.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:40:36 +0300") Message-ID: <87tuw9cvof.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>>> What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to >>>> require changes in the describe-* commands to work... >>> >>> That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make work automatically. >>> But 'display properties are kinda awkward -- for one, the cursor moves >>> over them in a single skip, so they're a bit confusing in that respect. >> >> Yes, that's true. So...perhaps it's better to just ditch that idea. > > Just display spaces over every '-' character (and upper-case letters > at word beginnings): > > (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") > "ill" > (propertize "-" 'display " ") > (propertize "c" 'display "C") > "olumn") Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: (let ((name "fill-column")) (set-text-properties 0 1 '(display "F") name) (set-text-properties 4 5 '(display " ") name) (set-text-properties 5 6 '(display "C") name) (insert name)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 07 15:45:08 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2020 19:45:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50933 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFN4e-00062E-GL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 15:45:08 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f51.google.com ([209.85.221.51]:37293) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFN4c-00061O-15 for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 15:45:06 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id z4so16843848wrr.4 for <41905@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:45:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=b1y4ByyjeDEAaxW/rjiuK+PvgcMzpzbD3zlN5ICdtbY=; b=ABuN6AteiSF0BsGtDlJ8snqTjfsNGKkAMmjPLgkdu/y3/sGKi+GOORN1fff/rFOs3K BjksHo5M144DJa6sJlxjc04j2iSET6q3TJ0snJzOSYQwJDYnNV+hN2FMwf1re2UD75Ht hhOnwTipHUCMZKiIP9UTTY+YaPgowKqkinirxCQgUnOSOtfiH//7uPFR6WbjfTooGVnF Ukj3pKWT4I6fHHbBgWaFpGQmZHscVVR6TQZS5n3EwQD069YWF6wpePT1HpE/69Mm5y8U eJaraEphqrxDAp1YJ1VcMPejOIw7ZVfnx+CZEu/NIxkUd4D+C7YUdFa/s8Bxt0qwkrv9 aKYw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=b1y4ByyjeDEAaxW/rjiuK+PvgcMzpzbD3zlN5ICdtbY=; b=hRGHDEv6gJctMAhzz5LDJjUaKvWn8YmWYqQiGlA0tHdvZXB4YCElzfsILiTUH4ltg7 AXXraqz0pMdebROkJhil/PeNwswJUEIrAJullorlgO0pbOi4XAHxr9GcNqz/TFzDifYe HySqg8tOBjet0CYb5OF9YiJXn51T8K0xgJaGuMz/JvNKsjKmLgdW2S+vq3Al6kKkYvvp i2ZjDb1nHckaegiUPJGKig0mKXGKTBadCGGHAIDvnWEqMi1VSsj4jh2whefB+o83sP18 n+KrAfZgHbXiRoSKQDtkqUzeQOwx0W5z9+vSPv1oXKP1+3d+PjuVKm5SiLhe09cuaH2l p6/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532nz4iE5SshtUuVQmkrKq8YFpt9PUX9Lu00N53JwvM+8QVDU+i8 BB7T0xcLELG9stZEx0rKpnxacX1zD82rRcRsZ4w= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJws5xFOzcTFZcT8fSFMwp9QxXI1Liiu0+wplxpdpSDKUX8EBgBbrIPJ1x5qSW1ZexEU+RVoDNzYvFqkGv5M/YA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:ec86:: with SMTP id z6mr23395643wrn.109.1599507899956; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 12:44:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> <87bliiycij.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuw9cvof.fsf@mail.linkov.net> In-Reply-To: <87tuw9cvof.fsf@mail.linkov.net> From: Mauro Aranda Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 16:44:47 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. To: Juri Linkov Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000031405e05aebe7463" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --00000000000031405e05aebe7463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Juri Linkov writes: >>>>> What I liked about the 'display approach is that it didn't seem to >>>>> require changes in the describe-* commands to work... >>>> >>>> That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make work automatically. >>>> But 'display properties are kinda awkward -- for one, the cursor moves >>>> over them in a single skip, so they're a bit confusing in that respect. >>> >>> Yes, that's true. So...perhaps it's better to just ditch that idea. >> >> Just display spaces over every '-' character (and upper-case letters >> at word beginnings): >> >> (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") >> "ill" >> (propertize "-" 'display " ") >> (propertize "c" 'display "C") >> "olumn") > > Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: > > (let ((name "fill-column")) > (set-text-properties 0 1 '(display "F") name) > (set-text-properties 4 5 '(display " ") name) > (set-text-properties 5 6 '(display "C") name) > (insert name)) I think that's a good idea. --00000000000031405e05aebe7463 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Juri Linkov <juri@li= nkov.net> writes:

>>>>> What I liked about the= 'display approach is that it didn't seem to
>>>>>= ; require changes in the describe-* commands to work...
>>>>=
>>>> That is a good point, and it would make C-h v make wor= k automatically.
>>>> But 'display properties are kinda = awkward -- for one, the cursor moves
>>>> over them in a sin= gle skip, so they're a bit confusing in that respect.
>>>>>> Yes, that's true.=C2=A0 So...perhaps it's better to = just ditch that idea.
>>
>> Just display spaces over ever= y '-' character (and upper-case letters
>> at word beginni= ngs):
>>
>> (concat (propertize "f" 'displa= y "F")
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "ill">> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (propertize "-" 'displa= y " ")
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (propertize "= c" 'display "C")
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= "olumn")
>
> Actually I meant not concat, but set-te= xt-properties:
>
> (let ((name "fill-column"))
>= ; =C2=A0(set-text-properties 0 1 '(display "F") name)
>= =C2=A0(set-text-properties 4 5 '(display " ") name)
> = =C2=A0(set-text-properties 5 6 '(display "C") name)
> = =C2=A0(insert name))

I think that's a good idea.
--00000000000031405e05aebe7463-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 07 16:28:46 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Sep 2020 20:28:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51001 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFNks-00078T-0o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:28:46 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:33212) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFNkp-00078C-SC for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:28:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iI+nfipf90vzWL519Ylk+irGb/isVjFF2/yUzJbR06o=; b=uu3RBKNa1DAZvs7LgXUmLbtsFd 9+c1KFsVm7zIKNmj8Yx1wXOIk545+wA49vxgx74mMDNlqwwVVpuLrhspBoRPW6A/i+8/x7zroaFgd yaHRQN6MY7c5ScmmzaIfx5IR1INELQy/olqYYUnaPO5IswZ0Y8RYP4mnMfb2bxfO+ev8=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFNkd-0003Jn-9v; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:28:37 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. 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Content preview: Juri Linkov writes: >> (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") >> "ill" >> (propertize "-" 'display " ") >> (propertize "c" 'display "C") >> "olumn") > > Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: > > (let ((nam [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, Mauro Aranda , ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov writes: >> (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") >> "ill" >> (propertize "-" 'display " ") >> (propertize "c" 'display "C") >> "olumn") > > Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: > > (let ((name "fill-column")) > (set-text-properties 0 1 '(display "F") name) > (set-text-properties 4 5 '(display " ") name) > (set-text-properties 5 6 '(display "C") name) > (insert name)) Why not concat? I think the end result is the same? Anyway, it's an intriguing idea. It's perhaps possibly slightly confusing, but it avoids the problems with a longer display string, and it fixes the `C-h v' problem. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 08 14:46:18 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2020 18:46:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56438 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFidG-0004Qr-GF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 14:46:18 -0400 Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:42471) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFidE-0004QQ-9E for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 14:46:17 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.97.241 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-97-241.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.97.241]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6BBAC240009; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 18:46:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> <87bliiycij.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuw9cvof.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878sdlcowi.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 21:33:24 +0300 In-Reply-To: <878sdlcowi.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:28:29 +0200") Message-ID: <87imcogldf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, Mauro Aranda , ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") >>> "ill" >>> (propertize "-" 'display " ") >>> (propertize "c" 'display "C") >>> "olumn") >> >> Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: >> >> (let ((name "fill-column")) >> (set-text-properties 0 1 '(display "F") name) >> (set-text-properties 4 5 '(display " ") name) >> (set-text-properties 5 6 '(display "C") name) >> (insert name)) > > Why not concat? I think the end result is the same? No difference, indeed :) But set-text-properties is cleaner: we have a string and add properties to it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 08 15:12:29 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2020 19:12:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56465 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFj2b-00053l-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 15:12:29 -0400 Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:53299) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFj2Z-00053T-1J for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 15:12:27 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.97.241 Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-97-241.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.97.241]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B73CD40006; Tue, 8 Sep 2020 19:12:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Juri Linkov To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. Organization: LINKOV.NET References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> <87bliiycij.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuw9cvof.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878sdlcowi.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 22:09:06 +0300 In-Reply-To: <878sdlcowi.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 07 Sep 2020 22:28:29 +0200") Message-ID: <87mu20f5m5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, Mauro Aranda , ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >>> (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") >>> "ill" >>> (propertize "-" 'display " ") >>> (propertize "c" 'display "C") >>> "olumn") >> >> Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: >> >> (let ((name "fill-column")) >> (set-text-properties 0 1 '(display "F") name) >> (set-text-properties 4 5 '(display " ") name) >> (set-text-properties 5 6 '(display "C") name) >> (insert name)) > > Why not concat? I think the end result is the same? Actually, you are right - destructive construction of strings is simpler: (let* ((name (symbol-name 'fill-column)) (text (replace-regexp-in-string "\\b[a-z]" (lambda (c) (propertize c 'display (upcase c))) (replace-regexp-in-string "[-:/]+" (lambda (c) (propertize c 'display " ")) name)))) (insert text)) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 08 16:51:12 2020 Received: (at 41905) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Sep 2020 20:51:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFka7-0007Ov-PJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 16:51:12 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:45796) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kFka2-0007OS-Ux for 41905@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 16:51:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=u5g0QSbK1cH+KnjQIPlft0DUQK9agdz3aFwdtYqcSSI=; b=FEQrMUp8a1t/xJIlk5hmQV7UtD bNZadksn78t+/qjt4ckAZhrDLY4PATY4qTMdJZBFoMsi/Fr3SnOIGoJWNLvAXLx4O4V4NeVGsoY1f wNHh9GnCAvxkgSluuylTPM4aJ2xftSc2+q05lTYmqQAbs/SPYa5axAmP1+0+4EUWPEso=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFkZq-000098-Gq; Tue, 08 Sep 2020 22:51:00 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#41905: Small change: In Customize, display name with with spaces, but keep symbol name underneath. 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Content preview: Juri Linkov writes: >>>> (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") >>>> "ill" >>>> (propertize "-" 'display " ") >>>> (propertize "c" 'display "C") >>>> "olumn") >>> >>> Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, Mauro Aranda , ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov writes: >>>> (concat (propertize "f" 'display "F") >>>> "ill" >>>> (propertize "-" 'display " ") >>>> (propertize "c" 'display "C") >>>> "olumn") >>> >>> Actually I meant not concat, but set-text-properties: >>> >>> (let ((name "fill-column")) >>> (set-text-properties 0 1 '(display "F") name) >>> (set-text-properties 4 5 '(display " ") name) >>> (set-text-properties 5 6 '(display "C") name) >>> (insert name)) >> >> Why not concat? I think the end result is the same? > > No difference, indeed :) But set-text-properties is cleaner: > we have a string and add properties to it. Yeah, but that's what propertize does, too. 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References: <87imcs5qmj.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y45pbo.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuwc49ge.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6y3umjr.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgbvt6zd.fsf@gnus.org> <87bliiycij.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuw9cvof.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <878sdlcowi.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu20f5m5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEUUDw1MNS17UkH/ //8HMBPWAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+QJCBQcK9hBFhsAAAFySURBVCjPbVLBbhQxDH0e OQg4OSiROpyLtPyFgzKr7i1ByWqPHAoSf8Ei1DM9cOdSpPYrcWa3EkV9Gk387HmW/SaIANPDHQyM mUU+33/teV4YLGhNJCzYihXlYG9nJCEwEUNqhrqTcBoH1B5ZgwDHeHsdc5S+y/vYMIeJi5Qb/tIY 2qbYat6h98OqJMo4oXYCBD5YHFJfWuziN3GH4Fsr9AIpzC/BNXiPWgjxAk9QzieNsDhVsKajIsOJ kYaU1AalMioYCcOnVcCrUEYHWv5sB7Gqz1lEki0ct/7jj+z7LbkDKLsk+qbfHuuViVwJV76mal2f wJ3nWdOxd7f0vv+1v+sgLUVGYTMR6vHb7/cfbn5i83pBVRs8XZj90xbv+iMe7vFf7zmwfA+JXgVI Z2HvQiGOkMjihLK5OtsubOVkFmv4R2xOso1AdOZGqv1MD9VL80LVKZxZJXgeY6FIVMIjYUr2sa6X wAitSqXT5ma4jIT8BVdfQzaANhV8AAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIwLTA5LTA4VDIwOjI4 OjQzKzAwOjAwvrtNnwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMC0wOS0wOFQyMDoyODo0MyswMDow MM/m9SMAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: I Start Counting's _My Translucent Hands_: "Cranley Gardens" Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2020 22:52:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mu20f5m5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 08 Sep 2020 22:09:06 +0300") Message-ID: <87mu20gfdk.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Juri Linkov writes: > Actually, you are right - destructive construction of strings is simpler: > > (let* ((name (symbol-name 'fill-column)) > (text (replace-regexp-in-string > "\\b[a-z]" > (lambda (c) (propertize c 'dis [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41905 Cc: 41905@debbugs.gnu.org, Mauro Aranda , ej32u@protonmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov writes: > Actually, you are right - destructive construction of strings is simpler: > > (let* ((name (symbol-name 'fill-column)) > (text (replace-regexp-in-string > "\\b[a-z]" > (lambda (c) (propertize c 'display (upcase c))) > (replace-regexp-in-string > "[-:/]+" > (lambda (c) (propertize c 'display " ")) > name)))) > (insert text)) Makes sense to me. Perhaps we should back out the fix I made here, and add this one... hm... on the other hand, I think perhaps just doing both is even better. That is, do this to the prettified string, but still add the 'data property. So this would be a fix for bug#400. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Thu Sep 11 15:11:07 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator