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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:57:36 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) On 14/6/20 12:52, Antonio T. sagitter wrote: > Hi all. > > Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1842171 > Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux v68.9.0. Tried installing Firefox's official addon from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ but nothing. Cheers From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 14 11:57:49 2020 Received: (at 41848) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2020 15:57:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jkV13-0001ik-0a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:57:49 -0400 Received: from smtp.vivaldi.net ([31.209.137.12]:41792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jkT6L-0004np-V1 for 41848@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 09:55:11 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.vivaldi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F872BF736; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 13:55:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp.vivaldi.net 9F872BF736 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vivaldi.net; s=default; t=1592142903; bh=gTQkt8pVITc28cz5WgohbsUvCcuB1I3tHmffLja/tk4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=OhtxWL4NDv86EYfar7a8tpDwbj0nC2luYdP6WpOM1zGHInRZmAvhq61vw3zy0DDQO iSHHqmiOjBFQCKAGsPymjuN+O/5UvUh1I8230o8uiUdw1RUHp/RlQJwBHOqBFAU189 oSOwI+y4hUpOQvoPh+LKuiOGViLrBSqI4T3xCooeA+YsObTCH463VT7pvfSsJUwy9d IbBnGPZoai0PJJU/PbuofoDuvHSn+oMuNM+oZFTj61nmInFXGvU0cwG2Cdo93nsZAT Kc5ptidOc4QQhaCg1klslVvSbU1btAnH0jr6dJm9Hsu00n38J5Tokc1V7JwAzMtnX6 JjT9F+vwNcwBg== X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp.vivaldi.net Received: from smtp.vivaldi.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mxo.viv.dc01 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wTTprk_1SWvn; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 13:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:55:01 -0500 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp.vivaldi.net 44B10BF73A DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vivaldi.net; s=default; t=1592142901; bh=gTQkt8pVITc28cz5WgohbsUvCcuB1I3tHmffLja/tk4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=OBvZO7AQlxLpv/KiDTSzbTkDFke+YGEOiYiZxQuUc3fU1s52P5CvBzA/iNthuHUUo WXFIwms5/1FltQygLgm+/zTOPVSXfYDvJRvBRu1I5UAWA87By+BgrGL/7uxPlGA1Hg LJ9swXlmKuP4sOM/SlkjWa36XXJMj44Y2zopU87db8UoqzjpLn9U9bwxtkkbMVm9i2 HFpCLd60vX56mPiHSctoR8WQmm26f4wKnEtKaT6qnBkZNxP1LnN3HjvMBJALvQ7uGV aSwbK9EduiorjJ1PbBG5QcqEhWd1A5C+0v+lNdl+ngWI180Li+ZwAp+MlLgOij+qBV 7IDvZ6YymstSA== From: "Lloyd F. Frazier" To: "Antonio T. sagitter" Subject: Re: bug#41848: Surfing with Tor / The IceCat Internet Browser In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.4 Message-ID: <6fbf6ba16d4f39fbf373edd89b09e2d4@vivaldi.net> X-Sender: frazier@vivaldi.net Organization: Pasha Holdings, L.L.C. X-Priority: 2 (High) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_5469d9e83a53ece7fa5a7d145a65b4a5" X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41848 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:57:47 -0400 Cc: help-gnuzilla@gnu.org, 41848@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) --=_5469d9e83a53ece7fa5a7d145a65b4a5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed The IceCat Internet Browser Sunday, June 14, 2020 I use IceCat on a Linux Mint 19.3 machine, which dual-boot choice with Microsoft Windows 10 Home, both _64_-_bit_, on a Hewlett-Packard (_H_._P_.) Pavilion 17, with 8 GB in Installed Memory / Random Access Memory (_R_._A_._M_.), and 1 TB of Solid State Drive (_S_._S_._D_.), but IceCat is very erratic, but functional. On an _onion_ network, I use a current Tor Browser, which I update not daily, but often... Best wishes, Lloyd -- Lloyd F. Frazier E-Mail - frazier@vivaldi.net On 14/06/2020 05:52 AM, Antonio T. sagitter wrote: > Hi all. > > Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1842171 --=_5469d9e83a53ece7fa5a7d145a65b4a5 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_5878a93a3537c093a93abd69e758a3bb" --=_5878a93a3537c093a93abd69e758a3bb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

Sunday, June 14, 2020

I use IceCat on a Linux Mint 19.3 machine, which dual-boot cho= ice with Microsoft Windows 10 Home, both 64-= bit, on a Hewlett-Packard (= H.P.) Pavilion<= /strong> 17, with 8 GB i= n Installed Memory / Random Access Memory (R= .A.M.), and 1 TB of Solid State Drive (S.S.D.), but IceCat is v= ery erratic, but functional. On an onion network,= I use a current Tor Browser, which I upd= ate not daily, but often...

Best wishes,

Lloyd

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= Lloyd F= =2E Frazier
E-Mail - frazier@vivaldi.net

On 14/06/2020 05:52 AM, Antonio T. sagitter wrote:

= Hi all.

Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho= w_bug.cgi?id=3D1842171


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"Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --imCG8FIVlRFDHunZIv6YhJMQTCPGDaKfQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="vwVRjCHm27zBPULnckBEuzN61ykQB0g3h" --vwVRjCHm27zBPULnckBEuzN61ykQB0g3h Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------75573501EF8067DD25960F62" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------75573501EF8067DD25960F62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joan. Sure you're using a Tor network before switch on Onion proxy? On 14/06/20 17:47, Joan Figueras wrote: > On 14/6/20 12:52, Antonio T. sagitter wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat? >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1842171 >> > Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux > v68.9.0. Tried installing Firefox's official addon from > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ > but nothing. > > > Cheers > > > > --=20 --- Antonio Trande Fedora Project mailto: sagitter@fedoraproject.org GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/ --------------75573501EF8067DD25960F62 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Joan.

Sure you're using a Tor network before switch on= Onion proxy?

On 14/06/20 17:47, Joan Figueras wrote= :
On 14/6/20 12:52, Antonio T. sagitter wrote:
Hi all.

Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi= ?id=3D1842171

Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux v68.9.0. Tried installing Firefox's official addon from https://addons.mozilla.org/= en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ but nothing.


Cheers 




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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux v68.9.0. > Tried installing Firefox's official addon from > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ but > [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: vxempire.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 15:11:16 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux v68.9.0. > Tried installing Firefox's official addon from > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ but > [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 2.0 PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD Untrustworthy TLDs [URI: vxempire.xyz (xyz)] 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [209.51.188.17 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 RBL: Very Good reputation (+4) [209.51.188.17 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL Mailspike good senders 0.5 FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD From abused NTLD 1.0 BULK_RE_SUSP_NTLD Precedence bulk and RE: from a suspicious TLD -1.0 MAILING_LIST_MULTI Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux v68.9.0. > Tried installing Firefox's official addon from > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ but > nothing. It doesn't work for me either, I have tor running at localhost:9050 --=20 qorg11 = =20 https://qorg11.net https://kill-9.xyz PGP: 343F C20A 4ACA 62B9, https://vxempire.xyz/pgp.txt=20 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEE2aD0XEjvRA4Qmvm5ND/CCkrKYrkFAl7mYgQACgkQND/CCkrK YrnsbQ//aikMlOfyQJoECMFIISU/Es6E+gvBdgAso1beS7LnjJKRizsPp/hUe1Pv x1wXHQcgelFQ7dDcWSkTmRWu/Vp1bM54fJqKVL1wVja5PURBU+edjF3QtQD+m40z A3FBHuhAsktzV+6pegV/Fu/LjM4SpDuZmy5fmoxaWq+cqxH5ORtZv6xmJTPHt/gQ K3WJnrP4rDMxaKnP31YfkeMeLfaOEXFXuZGQ55Ky25FjQYZ2ITlcpkCw/pkqveCC n/Iuv9KvruKJIP6CCgDCPyNbB1qojZvWOsE/becgCIS8t9WdSZVZc1ccLHY89Nh0 vHKUi0YeBb5T90CfSQ5h0lTzrhLDaWd0nt/+R3LqscJHTzr6LTYsHTOxdfPrsQRL 1narJJMJF7cuyoloAVrrhawMUMro3CNpjXHJVNoa+axUhAvId55SWgopvyHbDNsI kKcwLIvTK9JpPkBGOWT8h3U4Rp5dFtwqiy0jtOli1MN77o5QRFL1WbTq7881WdKz EBpm/YwjJ6WWZCGAB5Q9VWKPeRhjxSdI4TBtpnMkRcQgwQRSbhtqfxoYHuHG8ONp XQNJNRkBBlst/kiSOsSCOVi02MNHkBLzHQhnO7TDMbEypYIKfpuz+aLuz9Cp9I1x DMoNhHW6cqKJPJ2ER5ES3W/Hm5/Mf+LiU32DUDKYY3IvQ6qNhHc= =upsT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jun 14 15:11:18 2020 Received: (at 41848) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jun 2020 19:11:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44517 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jkY2H-0006W1-NJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 15:11:18 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f54.google.com ([209.85.221.54]:37950) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jkXDj-0005E2-JB for 41848@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 14:19:04 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f54.google.com with SMTP id e1so14837870wrt.5 for <41848@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:19:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=9ICKs7EXnPTGzGpK2OYb6TAZl/8JjGaHYDIjvsQUqxU=; b=IflBnsm1aSPquJIp3u4Fl9QR/g+hzNI6LFtOij6mLcSvh6m0/poFSUgiYZDRBStfgx PKZSNYo+DbOA5YAUnoJjV3PHQTwPRgB3lvibP5DcDH80oS+OCBbnIw1Drr5hoT0u7Pt0 arCfxJVZ0fHBAeTlh/MJhzNUNkz8qAYDdss+LhJtDIYGpmZamr7YaJdEwTdbuKubvj5C nqQZkfTKR4DzMUQMQRdMzCec9EnzHU6LhLt/H9Z+cqAhVf/s6txx64hcPitsEQzDHBAn 9Cq3OpR9F8gh5kWPn6W0h8360tYE3sn+9YCahzEHki2LSsnPCfZdp1nUkMo0+MWXvBBw QnTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=9ICKs7EXnPTGzGpK2OYb6TAZl/8JjGaHYDIjvsQUqxU=; b=iSQonXJQLDrR4e9tF1PPGx+HC39zWA/5doYOSC3vgs0N+OPJfbn5eAWGXF7tu4A8zE yQheCn6pDAuks0kaIJ694jAo16fqqkK4Lb2xZDPquZ31IY1ipPcjS+bhh+NHbupfbsFt SbYHOwBWzbssKZaDpFzBYZE+bRl7dyekyef5jCPlCvv3JYmSNETqfLIDiVBKHnclFu+J YJfSxHr9tQrV3LKM/0DMMQgzvkxf5n+7zXMUBQtqk/Z8qnst1erhPKZks3p9lDP/BjXq hlBnZ0+5MjM8dQxjchiK8RGoIeMgkb8eXRaCZpDvk01e2nwycJQxT/uUJebHgpMJ5UbA BoIw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533XL/NOwdPbV2+JTOpQB27Op6pYKFTuGA6vhp5cnXRLU1x7Tkmt JJ+EMXDxNUVQZ5z9A6eN4+fBGrEDi8M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJysd4lRap8sZg4DS98gn2AfE+tmfUpbWjDcqu4zMa7MWOuTA5MM5VH2O6t7dMq7rRbqmYCZVQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ce8d:: with SMTP id r13mr26559703wrn.178.1592158737196; Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] ([188.127.162.144]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k12sm21073550wrn.42.2020.06.14.11.18.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jun 2020 11:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#41848: Surfing with Tor To: "Antonio T. sagitter" , 41848@debbugs.gnu.org References: <8f376b02-03c3-3298-4497-b20c4b99f735@gmail.com> <91cad90b-1321-a1fd-68bf-c0830ca2a5e1@fedoraproject.org> From: Joan Figueras Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:19:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:77.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/77.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <91cad90b-1321-a1fd-68bf-c0830ca2a5e1@fedoraproject.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------395A8E8EC2742270EEAB876C" Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41848 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 14 Jun 2020 15:11:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------395A8E8EC2742270EEAB876C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes: figue@pluto ~ % sudo netstat -lnap | grep 9050 tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9050 0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      38935/tor The check says: "Sorry. You are not using Tor" And in network settings it says: "An extension,  Onion Browser Button, is controlling how IceCat connects to the internet." On 14/6/20 18:19, Antonio T. sagitter wrote: > > Hi Joan. > > Sure you're using a Tor network before switch on Onion proxy? > > On 14/06/20 17:47, Joan Figueras wrote: >> On 14/6/20 12:52, Antonio T. sagitter wrote: >>> Hi all. >>> >>> Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat? >>> >>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1842171 >>> >> Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux >> v68.9.0. Tried installing Firefox's official addon from >> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ >> but nothing. >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> > -- > --- > Antonio Trande > Fedora Project > mailto:sagitter@fedoraproject.org > GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 > GPG key server:https://keys.openpgp.org/ --------------395A8E8EC2742270EEAB876C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Yes:

figue@pluto ~ % sudo netstat -lnap | grep 9050
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:9050          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      38935/tor

The check says:

"Sorry. You are not using Tor"

And in network settings it says:

"An extension,  Onion Browser Button, is controlling how IceCat connects to the internet."


On 14/6/20 18:19, Antonio T. sagitter wrote:

Hi Joan.

Sure you're using a Tor network before switch on Onion proxy?

On 14/06/20 17:47, Joan Figueras wrote:
On 14/6/20 12:52, Antonio T. sagitter wrote:
Hi all.

Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1842171

Hi Antonio. Tor button doesn't work for me either on Archlinux v68.9.0. Tried installing Firefox's official addon from https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/ but nothing.


Cheers 




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--------------395A8E8EC2742270EEAB876C-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jun 15 01:27:04 2020 Received: (at 41848) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jun 2020 05:27:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44958 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jkheC-0004nF-H6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 01:27:04 -0400 Received: from world.peace.net ([64.112.178.59]:33086) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jkheB-0004mm-8p for 41848@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 01:27:03 -0400 Received: from mhw by world.peace.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jkhe3-0004dt-9D; Mon, 15 Jun 2020 01:26:55 -0400 From: Mark H Weaver To: "Antonio T. sagitter" Subject: Re: bug#41848: Surfing with Tor In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 01:24:42 -0400 Message-ID: <87k108x5my.fsf@netris.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41848 Cc: help-gnuzilla@gnu.org, 41848@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Antonio, > Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat? > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1842171 Thank you for bringing this to our attention. It appears to be a bug in the "Onion Browser Button" add-on by Bentham when used with Firefox ESR 68. I was able to reproduce this problem both in the IceCat 68.9 preview on Guix, and also on a Debian 9 system with Debian's stock firefox-esr (68.9) package and the Onion Browser Button add-on installed via addons.mozilla.org. I'll note that this bug report applies to the 68.8 and 68.9 previews of IceCat, which are the only IceCat previews to use the latest release (0.1.8) of the Onion Browser Button. Earlier IceCat previews used version 0.1.7. It was updated in the following commit: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git/commit/?h=68&id=3cb3e92e55c4f22aaa7e520fea1a1d8fdbef72b4 I'm currently building a version of IceCat 68.9 with the above commit reverted, to see if the bug also exists in version 0.1.7 of the Onion Browser Button. To be continued... 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87k108x5my.fsf@netris.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vrFEeVM4SqXr5ZADKkxSRsUwzBiOd6OV6" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.16119 hermes_yahoo Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) Content-Length: 5494 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41848 Cc: help-gnuzilla@gnu.org, 41848@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --vrFEeVM4SqXr5ZADKkxSRsUwzBiOd6OV6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="cNY3eeYElYKqfS8dlHuGnyjMngalfO4u9" --cNY3eeYElYKqfS8dlHuGnyjMngalfO4u9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------586E06E3AB2664DDF912DE70" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------586E06E3AB2664DDF912DE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark. I'm using IceCat 68.9.0 and Onion-0.1.8 button bundled into IceCat's source archive, on Fedora 32. I never noted this bug, sincerely. On 15/06/20 07:24, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Hi Antonio, > >> Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat? >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1842171 > Thank you for bringing this to our attention. > > It appears to be a bug in the "Onion Browser Button" add-on by Bentham > > when used with Firefox ESR 68. > > I was able to reproduce this problem both in the IceCat 68.9 preview on= > Guix, and also on a Debian 9 system with Debian's stock firefox-esr > (68.9) package and the Onion Browser Button add-on installed via > addons.mozilla.org. > > I'll note that this bug report applies to the 68.8 and 68.9 previews of= > IceCat, which are the only IceCat previews to use the latest release > (0.1.8) of the Onion Browser Button. Earlier IceCat previews used > version 0.1.7. It was updated in the following commit: > > https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git/commit/?h=3D68&id=3D3c= b3e92e55c4f22aaa7e520fea1a1d8fdbef72b4 > > I'm currently building a version of IceCat 68.9 with the above commit > reverted, to see if the bug also exists in version 0.1.7 of the Onion > Browser Button. > > To be continued... > > Regards, > Mark > > > --=20 --- Antonio Trande Fedora Project mailto: sagitter@fedoraproject.org GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/ --------------586E06E3AB2664DDF912DE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mark.

I'm using IceCat 68.9.0 and Onion-0.1.8 button bundled into IceCat's source archive, on Fedora 32.

I never noted this bug, sincerely.

On 15/06/20 07:24, Mark H Weaver wrote= :
Hi Antonio,


Please, can anyone else co=
nfirm this bug on IceCat?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D18=
42171

Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

It appears to be a bug in the "Onion Browser Button" add-on by Bentham
<https://addons.mozilla.org/en=
-US/firefox/addon/tortm-browser-button/>
when used with Firefox ESR 68.

I was able to reproduce this problem both in the IceCat 68.9 preview on
Guix, and also on a Debian 9 system with Debian's stock firefox-esr
(68.9) package and the Onion Browser Button add-on installed via
addons.mozilla.org.

I'll note that this bug report applies to the 68.8 and 68.9 previews of
IceCat, which are the only IceCat previews to use the latest release
(0.1.8) of the Onion Browser Button.  Earlier IceCat previews used
version 0.1.7.  It was updated in the following commit:

  https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/gnuzilla.git/commit/?h=3D68=
&id=3D3cb3e92e55c4f22aaa7e520fea1a1d8fdbef72b4

I'm currently building a version of IceCat 68.9 with the above commit
reverted, to see if the bug also exists in version 0.1.7 of the Onion
Browser Button.

To be continued...

     Regards,
       Mark




--=20
---
Antonio Trande
Fedora Project
mailto: sagitter@fedoraproject.org
GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84
GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/
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The same problem happens for me with version 0.1.7 of the Onion Browser Button in the IceCat 68.9 preview. I guess that this add-on does not work reliably (if at all) with Firefox ESR 68.x or its derivatives. Maybe it works better with Firefox 77. Unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm inclined to simply *remove* Onion Browser Button from the IceCat 68 preview. Long ago, the Tor Browser developers reached the conclusion that having a simple toggle button was the wrong approach, and I agree. https://blog.torproject.org/toggle-or-not-toggle-end-torbutton One problem is that modern web browsers have a large amount of state which can be used to identify you, and toggling the Tor button does not clear that state. When you aren't using Tor, sites can learn the state of your browser profile and associate that state with your identity. Later, if you turn Tor on, all of that state is still there to identify you, even if your network requests are routed through Tor. I believe that in order to properly preserve your anonymity while web browsing, at *minimum* each IceCat _profile_ should either be used exclusively with Tor, or exclusively without Tor. In other words, you should create dedicated profiles for use with Tor; when creating a new profile, you should either configure it to use Tor, or not, and you should *never* toggle a given profile between Tor-enabled and Tor-disabled. This requirement is violated by a Tor toggle button, whose sole purpose is to make it convenient to do the very thing that you should never do. Another more difficult problem is that browsers can be fingerprinted in various ways to determine their specific feature set and configuration. IceCat has a distinctive set of features disabled, and a distinctive configuration to better protect your privacy, but ironically these improvements can likely be used by an adversary to determine that you are an IceCat user, even if you are using Tor. Since there are relatively few IceCat users, this dramatically narrows down the set of people that you might be, thereby reducing your anonymity. I think we should acknowledge that providing proper anonymity in IceCat will require more work, and that work has not yet been done. Therefore, I think we should remove Tor support from IceCat for now, and start a discussion of what the requirements are and how best to meet them. To begin, I recommend that participants of this discussion should read "The Design and Implementation of the Tor Browser", here: https://2019.www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/ I can think of a few approaches we might take. The easiest approach would be to give up on having the same browser support Tor and non-Tor usage, as the Tor developers did. IceCat, based on Firefox ESR, could be our non-Tor browser, and then we could start another project, based on Tor Browser, for use with Tor. Another approach would be to provide an easy UI for enabling Tor when creating a new profile, and to teach users best practices for doing this. This approach would involve cherry-picking patches from Tor Browser, and possibly arranging for some of those patches to take effect only in profiles where Tor is enabled. It would likely also involve using a different default configuration for Tor-enabled profiles, to more closely match Tor Browser's configuration, to make it harder to distinguish IceCat users from Tor Browser users. Yet another idea would be to arrange for "Private Windows" to use Tor, and to convince ourselves (or not) that the remotely-detectable state of Private Windows are sufficiently isolated from the state of normal windows. I welcome other opinions. 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charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/06/20 22:40, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Earlier, I wrote: > >> I'm currently building a version of IceCat 68.9 with the above commit >> reverted, to see if the bug also exists in version 0.1.7 of the Onion >> Browser Button. > The same problem happens for me with version 0.1.7 of the Onion Browser= > Button in the IceCat 68.9 preview. I guess that this add-on does not > work reliably (if at all) with Firefox ESR 68.x or its derivatives. > Maybe it works better with Firefox 77. > > Unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm inclined to simply *remove*= > Onion Browser Button from the IceCat 68 preview. Another removing (about:icecat is already gone)? Of the original IceCat nothing is remaining... > > Long ago, the Tor Browser developers reached the conclusion that having= > a simple toggle button was the wrong approach, and I agree. > > https://blog.torproject.org/toggle-or-not-toggle-end-torbutton > > One problem is that modern web browsers have a large amount of state > which can be used to identify you, and toggling the Tor button does not= > clear that state. When you aren't using Tor, sites can learn the state= > of your browser profile and associate that state with your identity. > Later, if you turn Tor on, all of that state is still there to identify= > you, even if your network requests are routed through Tor. > > I believe that in order to properly preserve your anonymity while web > browsing, at *minimum* each IceCat _profile_ should either be used > exclusively with Tor, or exclusively without Tor. In other words, you > should create dedicated profiles for use with Tor; when creating a new > profile, you should either configure it to use Tor, or not, and you > should *never* toggle a given profile between Tor-enabled and > Tor-disabled. This requirement is violated by a Tor toggle button, > whose sole purpose is to make it convenient to do the very thing that > you should never do. I'm incline to choose the Tor-Icecat, in this case IceCat browser will be always Tor dependent. And, if in future some way Tor will become a proprietary feature? > > Another more difficult problem is that browsers can be fingerprinted in= > various ways to determine their specific feature set and configuration.= > IceCat has a distinctive set of features disabled, and a distinctive > configuration to better protect your privacy, but ironically these > improvements can likely be used by an adversary to determine that you > are an IceCat user, even if you are using Tor. Since there are > relatively few IceCat users, this dramatically narrows down the set of > people that you might be, thereby reducing your anonymity. > > I think we should acknowledge that providing proper anonymity in IceCat= > will require more work, and that work has not yet been done. Therefore= , > I think we should remove Tor support from IceCat for now, and start a > discussion of what the requirements are and how best to meet them. > > To begin, I recommend that participants of this discussion should read > "The Design and Implementation of the Tor Browser", here: > > https://2019.www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser/design/ > > I can think of a few approaches we might take. The easiest approach > would be to give up on having the same browser support Tor and non-Tor > usage, as the Tor developers did. IceCat, based on Firefox ESR, could > be our non-Tor browser, and then we could start another project, based > on Tor Browser, for use with Tor. > > Another approach would be to provide an easy UI for enabling Tor when > creating a new profile, and to teach users best practices for doing > this. This approach would involve cherry-picking patches from Tor > Browser, and possibly arranging for some of those patches to take effec= t > only in profiles where Tor is enabled. It would likely also involve > using a different default configuration for Tor-enabled profiles, to > more closely match Tor Browser's configuration, to make it harder to > distinguish IceCat users from Tor Browser users. > > Yet another idea would be to arrange for "Private Windows" to use Tor, > and to convince ourselves (or not) that the remotely-detectable state o= f > Private Windows are sufficiently isolated from the state of normal > windows. > > I welcome other opinions. > > Regards, > Mark +1 for a dedicated discussion about. --=20 --- Antonio Trande Fedora Project mailto: sagitter@fedoraproject.org GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/ --------------68A68ABC055BCCB5DCF7C237 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 15/06/20 22:40, Mark H Weaver wrote= :
Earlier, I wrote:


I'm currently building a v=
ersion of IceCat 68.9 with the above commit
reverted, to see if the bug also exists in version 0.1.7 of the Onion
Browser Button.

The same problem happens for me with version 0.1.7 of the Onion Browser
Button in the IceCat 68.9 preview.  I guess that this add-on does not
work reliably (if at all) with Firefox ESR 68.x or its derivatives.
Maybe it works better with Firefox 77.

Unless someone has a better suggestion, I'm inclined to simply *remove*
Onion Browser Button from the IceCat 68 preview.

Another removing (about:icecat is already gone)? Of the original IceCat nothing is remaining... 


Long ago, the Tor Browser developers reached the conclusion that having
a simple toggle button was the wrong approach, and I agree.

  https://blog.torproject.org/toggle-or=
-not-toggle-end-torbutton

One problem is that modern web browsers have a large amount of state
which can be used to identify you, and toggling the Tor button does not
clear that state.  When you aren't using Tor, sites can learn the state
of your browser profile and associate that state with your identity.
Later, if you turn Tor on, all of that state is still there to identify
you, even if your network requests are routed through Tor.

I believe that in order to properly preserve your anonymity while web
browsing, at *minimum* each IceCat _profile_ should either be used
exclusively with Tor, or exclusively without Tor.  In other words, you
should create dedicated profiles for use with Tor; when creating a new
profile, you should either configure it to use Tor, or not, and you
should *never* toggle a given profile between Tor-enabled and
Tor-disabled.  This requirement is violated by a Tor toggle button,
whose sole purpose is to make it convenient to do the very thing that
you should never do.

I'm incline to choose the Tor-Icecat, in this case IceCat browser will be always Tor dependent.

And, if in future some way Tor will become a proprietary feature?<= br> 


Another more difficult problem is that browsers can be fingerprinted in
various ways to determine their specific feature set and configuration.
IceCat has a distinctive set of features disabled, and a distinctive
configuration to better protect your privacy, but ironically these
improvements can likely be used by an adversary to determine that you
are an IceCat user, even if you are using Tor.  Since there are
relatively few IceCat users, this dramatically narrows down the set of
people that you might be, thereby reducing your anonymity.

I think we should acknowledge that providing proper anonymity in IceCat
will require more work, and that work has not yet been done.  Therefore,
I think we should remove Tor support from IceCat for now, and start a
discussion of what the requirements are and how best to meet them.

To begin, I recommend that participants of this discussion should read
"The Design and Implementation of the Tor Browser", here:

  https://2019.www.torproject.org/projects=
/torbrowser/design/

I can think of a few approaches we might take.  The easiest approach
would be to give up on having the same browser support Tor and non-Tor
usage, as the Tor developers did.  IceCat, based on Firefox ESR, could
be our non-Tor browser, and then we could start another project, based
on Tor Browser, for use with Tor.

Another approach would be to provide an easy UI for enabling Tor when
creating a new profile, and to teach users best practices for doing
this.  This approach would involve cherry-picking patches from Tor
Browser, and possibly arranging for some of those patches to take effect
only in profiles where Tor is enabled.  It would likely also involve
using a different default configuration for Tor-enabled profiles, to
more closely match Tor Browser's configuration, to make it harder to
distinguish IceCat users from Tor Browser users.

Yet another idea would be to arrange for "Private Windows" to use Tor,
and to convince ourselves (or not) that the remotely-detectable state of
Private Windows are sufficiently isolated from the state of normal
windows.

I welcome other opinions.

    Regards,
      Mark

+1 for a dedicated discussion about.


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On 15/06/20 07:24, Mark H Weaver wrote: > Hi Antonio, >=20 >> Please, can anyone else confirm this bug on IceCat? >> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1842171 >=20 > Thank you for bringing this to our attention. >=20 --=20 --- Antonio Trande Fedora Project mailto: sagitter@fedoraproject.org GPG key: 0x7B30EE04E576AA84 GPG key server: https://keys.openpgp.org/ --KEogVJbaU9zXPgj8nDQb6OgFYuKom4Zzg-- --qLIfiGlHjrEIAOEfayJtzvwjBRD4kRmj4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - https://www.enigmail.net/ iHUEAREIAB0WIQTKfESE2mpdP3Bvd9J7MO4E5XaqhAUCXvDv1QAKCRB7MO4E5Xaq hIKIAP9QsYry+AYfXk4WY9Mt7W2lCCK388lit78aI0AmJfuJfgEAj+LwZygnZOx2 ty84X9F7p65ylL4xi8vzdlW6pRUV9gk= =mTMX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qLIfiGlHjrEIAOEfayJtzvwjBRD4kRmj4--