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Dejagnu's unknown proc aborts testsuite run when triggered in test-case

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From: Jacob Bachmeyer <jcb62281 <at> gmail.com>
To: Pedro Alves <palves <at> redhat.com>
Cc: Tom de Vries <tdevries <at> suse.de>, 41824 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41824: Dejagnu's unknown proc aborts testsuite run when triggered in test-case
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2020 17:39:58 -0500

Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 6/25/20 3:43 AM, Jacob Bachmeyer wrote:
>   
>> Pedro Alves wrote:
>>     
>>> What that misses is that in some environments, particularly with slow embedded
>>> system boards, running the full testsuite can take _days_.   This is all
>>> compounded by the fact that the testsuite must be run in a large set of
>>> different modes and boards to cover everything for a single target.  Even on
>>> a modern GNU/Linux system, running all combinations of modes for full coverage
>>> can take hours.
>>>
>>> Having the testrun stop midway because of some specific testcase
>>> blowing up can waste a lot of time.
>>>
>>> The fact that the testsuite can take a while to fully run results in automated
>>> testing systems, like GDB's buildbot, struggling to keep up with testing
>>> all the commits that land in git.  On some buildbot setups, it's just not
>>> possible to test all commits.  So if some testcase blows up the whole
>>> test run, the next time you run the testsuite, it'll likely be that a
>>> large number of unrelated commits went into the sources.  Losing a large
>>> chunk of the testsuite results because of some small typo in one
>>> testcase is thus undesirable, because noticing the typo in the first
>>> place can take a while, and also you may be stuck with a "last good run"
>>> for many of the testcases that gets older and older until
>>> the typo is finally fixed.
>>>   
>>>       
>> I presume buildbot can be easily configured to pass a '--keep_going' option, perhaps as 'RUNTESTFLAGS=--keep_going' if needed?
>>     
>
> What's more likely is we'll tweak GDB's Makefile so that make check
> enables that option automatically.  If GCC does the same, which I would
> encourage them to, since they also run the testsuite against systems
> that can take hours/days to complete, then I'll get to wonder who the
> default is for.  :-)
>   

The default is for developers working on testsuites -- and for testing 
release candidates and releases because if your testcases crash in a 
release, you have problems.  :-)

Are you suggesting withdrawing the --keep-going/--no-keep-going options 
and always generating an UNRESOLVED result, resuming with the next test 
script, and possibly storing a list of aborted test scripts somewhere to 
repeat at the very end of a test run with a big warning about test cases 
that crashed?

>> Still, needing a new option to get old behavior is changing the environment interface, so I will make --keep_going the default, at least for the rest of 1.6.  That default is likely to change for 1.7.  For automated systems like buildbot, passing '--keep_going' should be perfectly reasonable, which is why the option exists.  (While the documented options will be changed to use hyphens to align with the rest of the GNU system in 1.7, the current option names will continue to be accepted, since the aliases are obvious.)
>>     
>
> Currently with DejaGnu only the case of calling an unknown function stops
> the test run AFAIK.  Any other tcl error like calling a proc with the wrong
> number of arguments, or treating a non-array variable as an array, etc. is
> caught by the catch in the runtest proc in runtest.exp, and the testrun
> continues.  That to me clearly indicates that the original intention was
> to catch errors and continue.
>
> That also gives the tool's $(tool)_finish proc a chance to tear down
> correctly.
>
> It is just that the "unknown" case wasn't thought of.  So I argue that not
> making unknown proc calls abort the run is a bug fix, and making DejaGnu
> abort the run for other errors by default is a behavior change that no real
> testsuite built around DejaGnu is asking for.
>   

As it was explained to me, it is the other way around -- the catch in 
runtest was overlooked when ::unknown was added to catch bugs by 
aborting if an undefined procedure is called.

Is there a ${tool}_finish or do you mean ${tool}_exit?  Either way, you 
make a good point about running cleanup procedures when aborting a test run.

>> The entire reason for stopping the testsuite immediately when a Tcl error occurs is that it is undeniable that something is *very* *wrong* when the testsuite stops early.  Software testing is hard enough when you know your testsuite is good, but it is far worse when you have bugs in the testsuite masking bugs in the actual program because a test script is crashing and part of the program that is supposed to be tested is not being exercised.
>>     
>
> I think it's safe to say that we all understand the general principle,
> but IMO that applies more to continuing the same testcase (if somehow that
> were possible, like "unknown" suppressing the error), rather than continuing
> with a different testcase.
>
> Continuing the testrun when one testcase errors out does not mask any
> bug in the program that is supposed to be tested.  Why would it?  The
> testcase aborts, it doesn't continue.  The remaining testcases start
> afresh.
>   

Consider a hypothetical case where GDB has exec.exp (which tests 
starting a debugged process) and attach.exp (which tests attaching to a 
process).  Unknown to the GDB developers, the "attach" command does not 
work and causes GDB to dump core (oops!) but attach.exp fails with a Tcl 
error before reaching the point where "attach" is issued to the inferior 
GDB.  If DejaGnu stops immediately, it is obvious that the testsuite is 
broken, the bug in the testsuite is fixed, and the bug in GDB is found.  
If DejaGnu sweeps the Tcl error under the proverbial rug (as previous 
versions did), the bug in the testsuite effectively hides the bug in GDB 
, because the developers think the "attach" command is being exercised, 
but those tests are being (almost) silently skipped.

Now a bug that obvious will be caught very quickly by users (likely the 
GDB developers themselves) but obscure regressions are for more 
insidious, especially in large testsuites such as those for GCC or GDB.  
If a regression test is being skipped with an easily-missed error, that 
regression can slip in unnoticed.

Would simply turning aborted test scripts into UNRESOLVED results be 
enough to get them fixed quickly?


-- Jacob

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