From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 18 23:46:57 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 May 2020 03:46:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48850 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jatDV-0004Wy-Bm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:46:57 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:52712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jatDU-0004Wr-28 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:46:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jatDT-0007aY-GM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:46:55 -0400 Received: from mail-qk1-f182.google.com ([209.85.222.182]:34390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jatDR-0008G5-Gh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 May 2020 23:46:55 -0400 Received: by mail-qk1-f182.google.com with SMTP id 190so13171170qki.1 for ; Mon, 18 May 2020 20:46:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IGhxMElZT0XhGvUyoJRnFbl7jPEmaEwtWXr+T3HajgU=; b=Jnl+8aglqHItQ9Y8PQHwB3bkjT4pErIoHpd3UIz1P/jBAom6DLKuyiAiCQaN9WGUWw aQHQ017ajES60jJIkjmHes7/xSyQwQDCnv53vRuo3Mf/pxdB5gG7RCoCt337OqqFWPYd ZDy3m978bZSitPzzz2tBy53+vleM04ucLGYnSwyiBGdlctO+moZlp2u5p9unAJYbEMPj i/AHN2bAy0RFYKYjWP7bbrwq6mLbliwiMg9wutBnBb10IK9HZeNHjih5A+2NT96YoqkZ TOyOKr2+07W0n3qGeLdg8mW5zLD8ZSScBOohmm09RxNni2nLR46SrP6L3AQdj4cYjq0F r0wg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532zvDGPt/3s+s40utOdl6Nq0YvrTPjODOCquVbrYUZP6HawQeQA s1WKbzAF4EsKeOKDK1BEgXn9MbK8VlWf/+CFlmiQVA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzXxp53BU27RSG1g6tusyP5P4xRid4fAVgKg5Q3+RURDaI6Bzbjl663k9lYDbqPsQ9vtg8V7aho1SlN98yRBUg= X-Received: by 2002:a25:9304:: with SMTP id f4mr19568551ybo.309.1589860012224; Mon, 18 May 2020 20:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 18 May 2020 20:46:51 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 18 May 2020 20:46:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: [PATCH] Mark metamail.el as obsolete To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000459e8a05a5f821f3" Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.222.182; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk1-f182.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/18 21:59:05 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, TO_NO_BRKTS_PCNT=2.499, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 3.6 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Severity: wishlist The metamail package was last released in 1994, according to one source below. It seems to have been removed from most GNU/Linux distributions a long time ago due to being buggy and unmaintained. Content analysis details: (3.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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It seems to have been removed from most GNU/Linux distributions a long time ago due to being buggy and unmaintained. Removed from Redhat around 2004: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=152675 Removed from Debian around 2009: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=274451 Also see this opinion: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59876940/linux-metamail-package-how-to-build#comment105884140_59876940 I suggest we mark our support for metamail as obsolete. Users could use it for a time until we remove it, but we should not encourage anyone to do so. Any objections? 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Users could use > it for a time until we remove it, but we should not encourage anyone to > do so. > > Any objections? No objections within a week, pushed to master as commit 8b940dac32. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From unknown Sat Jun 14 05:17:40 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator