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23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message

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Message #5 received at submit <at> emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: emacs-pretest-bug <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:21:03 -0400

I tried doing vc-dir without having entered my passphrase to enable
subjobs of Emacs to contact savannah.  So CVS would have failed.
But vc-dir gave no sign of this.  It created the buffer in the initial
state, and never said or did anything more.



In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.4 (mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.12)
 of 2009-08-11 on theobromine2
configured using `configure  'CFLAGS=-O0 -g -Wno-pointer-sign' 'mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu' 'build_alias=mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu' 'target_alias=mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: VC dir

Minor modes in effect:
  gpm-mouse-mode: t
  display-battery-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
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f o r SPC a d u l t s ESC DEL ESC DEL d e c a d e s 
SPC a o , C-b C-b g C-e SPC e x c e p t RET f o r SPC 
f a m i l i e s , SPC a n d SPC A r i z o n a SPC i 
s SPC n o t SPC g e n e r a l DEL a l l y SPC C-u C-b 
DEL C-e c o s i d e C-u C-b n C-e r e d SPC l i b e 
r a l SPC o r SPC p r o g r e s s i v e C-a ESC f ESC 
f C-k ; SPC i s SPC A r i z o n a SPC a n SPC e c e 
p t o n DEL DEL i o n ? ESC b C-f x C-e SPC SPC D o 
e s SPC T e m p e SPC h a e SPC a DEL DEL v DEL e SPC 
DEL DEL DEL v e SPC C-a C-p ESC e ESC k ESC k C-p ESC 
f C-f C-d ESC f ESC f C-d C-n SPC SPC C a n SPC s o 
m e o n e SPC f i n d SPC o u t ? RET C-c C-c d d u 
o e n d o r TAB RET d x C-x b * v c - d TAB RET C-z 
ESC x r e p o r t SPC e m a c s TAB RET

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Message #8 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:13:13 +0200

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

> I tried doing vc-dir without having entered my passphrase to enable
> subjobs of Emacs to contact savannah.  So CVS would have failed.
> But vc-dir gave no sign of this.  It created the buffer in the initial
> state, and never said or did anything more.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any
response at the time.)

I'm not sure I understand this bug report.  Was Emacs supposed to prompt
for a password here?  (I think I've repressed how CVS worked with
remote, password-protected repositories...)

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #11 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 20:40:17 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> I tried doing vc-dir without having entered my passphrase to enable
>> subjobs of Emacs to contact savannah.  So CVS would have failed.
>> But vc-dir gave no sign of this.  It created the buffer in the initial
>> state, and never said or did anything more.
>
> (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any
> response at the time.)
>
> I'm not sure I understand this bug report.  Was Emacs supposed to prompt
> for a password here?  (I think I've repressed how CVS worked with
> remote, password-protected repositories...)

More information was requested, but no response was given within a few
months, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #24 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 07:51:53 +0100

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

> That time I forgot to run ssh-add, so the basic vc commands should
> have failed.
>
> But vc-dir didn't report a failure.  Instead it created the buffer
> with no failure report, and then the buffer was nonresponsive to
> commands.
>
> The bug is that vc-dir did not fail when it should have failed.

Do you have a recipe for reproducing this, though?

I tried a session without an ssh agent, and I issued the `vc-update'
command, and I got an error buffer with the following data:

---
Running "git pull --stat"...
Permission denied, please try again.^M
Received disconnect from 209.51.188.201 port 22:2: Too many authentication fail\
ures for larsi^M
Disconnected from 209.51.188.201 port 22^M
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.


-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #27 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 23:17:54 -0500

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > >> I tried doing vc-dir without having entered my passphrase to enable
  > >> subjobs of Emacs to contact savannah.  So CVS would have failed.
  > >> But vc-dir gave no sign of this.  It created the buffer in the initial
  > >> state, and never said or did anything more.

  > > I'm not sure I understand this bug report.  Was Emacs supposed to prompt
  > > for a password here?  (I think I've repressed how CVS worked with
  > > remote, password-protected repositories...)

I am sorry my scenario was not clear.

Normally, VC commands fail when I have not previously specified my ssh
passphrase so CVS can contact savannah.  Emacs does not know how
to promptfor the passphrase on their behalf.

So normally I specify the passphrase in advance with ssh-add.

That time I forgot to run ssh-add, so the basic vc commands should
have failed.

But vc-dir didn't report a failure.  Instead it created the buffer
with no failure report, and then the buffer was nonresponsive to
commands.

The bug is that vc-dir did not fail when it should have failed.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #30 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 23:27:58 -0500

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > Do you have a recipe for reproducing this, though?

Nothing precise.  I will try o come up with one.

  > I tried a session without an ssh agent,

The reason I use ssh-add is precisely because I always use ssh-agent.
I think ssh-agent is required to make the VC commands work for remote
CVS repos.


-- 
Dr Richard Stallman
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #33 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:46:15 +0800

tag 4137 + moreinfo
thanks

Hello,

I think there may be some confusion about backends.

Richard, is this reproducible with emacs.git ?  Or is it CVS-specific?

If it's not CVS-specific then I think the severity should be higher
because it is very confusing when things appear to succeed but haven't.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Message #38 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
Cc: control <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 23:41:08 -0400

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

I hae no way to access the RT tickets, but you can do that.
Can you possibly show me the initial bug report?

I tried to find that email with grep on my outgoing email files, but I
can't find any email I sent which contains `vc-dir waits instead of
error message', not since 21 Nov 2022.

If you show me that email, perhaps I can answer your question
or find more info.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #41 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:11:14 +0800

Hello,

On Sat 15 Mar 2025 at 11:41pm -04, Richard Stallman wrote:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> I hae no way to access the RT tickets, but you can do that.
> Can you possibly show me the initial bug report?

There are several messages from you, so you probably want to read
through the web view: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/4137>.

-- 
Sean Whitton

Message #44 received at 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
Cc: 4137 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 19:15:30 -0400

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > > I hae no way to access the RT tickets, but you can do that.
  > > Can you possibly show me the initial bug report?

  > There are several messages from you, so you probably want to read
  > through the web view: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/4137>.

I am so far behind on reading some emails that I don't see them for
two months.  I just today saw your last reply about this.  I was able
to use the debbugs web interface and saw that the initial bug report
was from 2009!  I did not know that until just now.

Sine the bug happened so long ago, it has probably disappeared by now,
you may as well close it and we will see if anyone reports it again some day.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #49 received at 4137-close <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton <at> spwhitton.name>
To: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 4137-close <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#4137: 23.1.50; vc-dir waits instead of error message
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 10:06:46 +0100

Hello,

On Wed 21 May 2025 at 07:15pm -04, Richard Stallman wrote:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > > I hae no way to access the RT tickets, but you can do that.
>   > > Can you possibly show me the initial bug report?
>
>   > There are several messages from you, so you probably want to read
>   > through the web view: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/4137>.
>
> I am so far behind on reading some emails that I don't see them for
> two months.  I just today saw your last reply about this.  I was able
> to use the debbugs web interface and saw that the initial bug report
> was from 2009!  I did not know that until just now.
>
> Sine the bug happened so long ago, it has probably disappeared by now,
> you may as well close it and we will see if anyone reports it again some day.

Okay, thanks, done.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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