From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:04:42 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#41147 <41147@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#41147 <41147@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: A modern frame-title-format Reply-To: bug#41147 <41147@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 21:04:42 +0000 retitle 41147 A modern frame-title-format reassign 41147 emacs submitter 41147 Lars Ljung severity 41147 wishlist tag 41147 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 09 05:48:44 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 May 2020 09:48:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46789 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXM67-0003jA-Om for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:48:44 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:60202) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXM66-0003j3-1N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:48:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXM65-0000YU-PR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:48:41 -0400 Received: from mailout-lvl1-02.surftown.com ([212.97.134.85]:58918) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXM63-0004A3-UE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:48:40 -0400 Received: from surftown.com (mail.surftown.com [212.97.133.57]) by mailout-lvl1-02.surftown.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0FB603BE for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 11:48:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at surftown.com Received: from [192.168.1.203] (unknown [83.226.138.165]) (Authenticated sender: lars@matholka.se) by mail.surftown.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7FB09E01CE for ; Sat, 9 May 2020 11:48:32 +0200 (CEST) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Lars Ljung Subject: A modern frame-title-format Message-ID: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 11:48:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.97.134.85; envelope-from=lars@matholka.se; helo=mailout-lvl1-02.surftown.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/09 05:48:34 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) I suggest that frame-title-format is changed to something like this: (multiple-frames "GNU Emacs - %b" ("GNU Emacs")) This would give Emacs a slightly more modern look. The current use of invocation-name might be useful for Emacs developers running multiple versions, but it serves no purpose for normal users. The current use of system-name has no real value when running Emacs locally, but perhaps it could be added to remote frames only. Kind regards, Lars Ljung From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 09 05:57:55 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 May 2020 09:57:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46794 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMF1-0003xh-HC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:57:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59274) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMEz-0003xU-Ba for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:57:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49039) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMEu-0003qF-1O; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:57:48 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1523 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMEt-0007sn-0r; Sat, 09 May 2020 05:57:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 12:57:38 +0300 Message-Id: <83wo5lfn1p.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ljung In-Reply-To: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> (message from Lars Ljung on Sat, 9 May 2020 11:48:31 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ljung > Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 11:48:31 +0200 > > The current use of system-name has no real value when running Emacs > locally, but perhaps it could be added to remote frames only. Frames are never remote, only buffers are. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 09 06:11:42 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 May 2020 10:11:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46802 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMSL-0004KI-T2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:11:42 -0400 Received: from mailout-lvl1-02.surftown.com ([212.97.134.85]:45974) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMSJ-0004K8-Cm for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:11:40 -0400 Received: from surftown.com (mail.surftown.com [212.97.133.57]) by mailout-lvl1-02.surftown.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267DD60581; Sat, 9 May 2020 12:11:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at surftown.com Received: from [192.168.1.203] (unknown [83.226.138.165]) (Authenticated sender: lars@matholka.se) by mail.surftown.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0F626A0181; Sat, 9 May 2020 12:11:36 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format To: Eli Zaretskii References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> <83wo5lfn1p.fsf@gnu.org> From: Lars Ljung Message-ID: <811cacc7-72b5-3df9-a114-11ab9907d182@matholka.se> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 12:11:36 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83wo5lfn1p.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Den 2020-05-09 kl. 11:57, skrev Eli Zaretskii: >> From: Lars Ljung >> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 11:48:31 +0200 >> >> The current use of system-name has no real value when running Emacs >> locally, but perhaps it could be added to remote frames only. > > Frames are never remote, only buffers are. > I was thinking of the use case when DISPLAY is set to show frames on a different machine, e.g. when running over SSH with X forwarding. Then it could be useful to show system-name. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 10 12:32:00 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2020 16:32:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50307 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXorw-0007QC-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 12:32:00 -0400 Received: from mailout-lvl1-02.surftown.com ([212.97.134.85]:52854) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXort-0007Px-FD for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 12:31:58 -0400 Received: from surftown.com (mail.surftown.com [212.97.133.57]) by mailout-lvl1-02.surftown.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FF3601B3 for <41147@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 May 2020 18:31:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at surftown.com Received: from [192.168.1.203] (unknown [83.226.138.165]) (Authenticated sender: lars@matholka.se) by mail.surftown.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A7B04C0C97 for <41147@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 May 2020 18:31:54 +0200 (CEST) To: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ljung Subject: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format Message-ID: <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 18:31:53 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) I did some research and as I understand it the GNOME guidelines recommends just "%b", even when there is only one frame. Many programs use the style "%b - GNU Emacs". E.g. gvim, Gimp, Firefox, and LibreOffice. Either way it seems popular to place the document name first, which makes sense. 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[99.230.38.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v14sm9326245ilm.66.2020.05.25.07.39.22 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 25 May 2020 07:39:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Noam Postavsky To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: control message for bug #41147 Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 10:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <85mu5wt6xw.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) severity 41147 wishlist retitle 41156 margins interfere with xterm-mouse-mode severity 41168 wishlist retitle 41185 highlight-regexp not working properly for multiline-matching regexps retitle 41187 [macOS] 28.0.50; Flipped text tags 41222 + patch severity 41222 minor tags 41482 + notabug merge 41482 41487 severity 41492 minor severity 41524 wishlist quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Aug 23 20:58:01 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2020 00:58:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55434 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kA0oD-0002pD-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:58:01 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f171.google.com ([209.85.219.171]:36476) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kA0oA-0002ov-DM for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:57:59 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f171.google.com with SMTP id g3so4270899ybc.3 for <41147@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 17:57:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=xh16YRd4QrvK90UOhhM/lzC10fdqjtZx2TKzOcDdwGo=; b=J4ft8kANr1ug1BeL5q0tvzsiH5VBh5vcYV29yIUk236YbSg+W/Y1F5oSE3LIwjudOh eP+grbpDLcRtq2QRTaC7B7jBmG4SK5phWBr6DyAGhXG2NGwjsQAMMfBAfn8CjA2o0fwB j9sv6O9yj1s+MeFjKVBt0W4ad5uaikecYttKYfWrtQcHFsZJyMd3KseV2Y0jxnzuibEw QL/+rW+7WIkvP9NVDYsEXeZ0wpAnjnDuaoPnYb0i5ciQiNrK9tV0CmKGarhHsVzLdwhT l0uF/5TErGrhBmyp7XFlQDRlLj4Q3Cg9Zniqt28teZzTw/37eDX66BpKWpfhTcGsInxI jx+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530TBMW68beYy8YSQoXWiUoWk/lqV6JEbG4kOOC2v6q6g1WpLhtO s+6wij4Xn7tdivmxK6cpq7w0uI9dtGv9Yz4okOg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwEL/hck9KYeGdTS0Mm+0+UPYjDdvXzceDCQDWrcpoMmTsoXyZh4dGjP4kqCr5sat1PEG0xoOGpWUOwEstu7SQ= X-Received: by 2002:a5b:508:: with SMTP id o8mr4866019ybp.43.1598230672762; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 17:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:57:51 -0400 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> (Lars Ljung's message of "Sun, 10 May 2020 18:31:53 +0200") References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2020 20:57:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format To: Lars Ljung Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0000000000008503f405ad951360" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --0000000000008503f405ad951360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" tags 41147 + patch thanks Lars Ljung writes: > I did some research and as I understand it the GNOME guidelines recommends just > "%b", even when there is only one frame. > > Many programs use the style "%b - GNU Emacs". E.g. gvim, Gimp, Firefox, and > LibreOffice. I think it makes sense to just do what other modern software does here. If people want to do something more fancy, they can easily modify it themselves. How about the attached patch? (NEWS and docs still needs updating.) 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There's no way to customize what "emacs -Q" produces, though, and the patch changes that as well. > How about the attached patch? (NEWS and docs still needs updating.) I think we need a broader user poll before we make such a change. An opinion of a couple of people is not enough. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Aug 24 07:33:31 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2020 11:33:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56321 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAAjC-0002Qh-WB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 07:33:31 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f176.google.com ([209.85.219.176]:35454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAAj9-0002QQ-Lk for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 07:33:30 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id y134so4978285yby.2 for <41147@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:33:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3zAiMzLolfbSA4eMWZ6VDqX+8pXE49WnXIvkxopyJFg=; b=Pr6OcumCfh5vRLH+owFTa+j07EhBTqe4CYJ65zVx6XdvQl6+5km5lXMao/opsKgXVF 99M5/y5r3lso5GzupKRx3MhOY3bXDtZZVj566m5dVYU7PHNhTh5zwBo2+vKnJiNYLykN ROsc/LjJhp1TnpPPcoyb2DiE5wQNvgJt4jl3VtxfQSsPmFoqy3G2jXEEAL+7wGuUIr67 VE82ziVhjersoXPrngBYnd0FjuQcIvxM3WBi8lS5i9xIrz8pNEj6OB1ZLm6uX44UsPLC xnG6a+wnWeRJy5XyYDMhtGENqFNIMsSTahqjuAnKNHopKE7HaSVNwmkOooOk6fMO+Lk4 SDWw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531F3TlNTpELC5nzj2YFk76GFWxpJ/wjS+QcaP5qv508hK5j6nxl IjkA98EbqyyMCtMUWpSgL8Q+QliX/x3rCmHf6gA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxRtskgg0wCGEjvBxcUWVsSLsmYsWoPas8P0TaM226WSzfWjZKiD5Ez7h+2eSTCQA2P/BUX8VvgamnIDR5+PEM= X-Received: by 2002:a25:880e:: with SMTP id c14mr6978586ybl.181.1598268802137; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 07:33:21 -0400 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83eenw7hwv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> <83eenw7hwv.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 07:33:21 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org, lars@matholka.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I think it makes sense to just do what other modern software does here. >> If people want to do something more fancy, they can easily modify it >> themselves. > > There's no way to customize what "emacs -Q" produces, though, and the > patch changes that as well. > >> How about the attached patch? (NEWS and docs still needs updating.) > > I think we need a broader user poll before we make such a change. An > opinion of a couple of people is not enough. OK, I'll send this question to emacs-devel when I find some time. Best regards, Stefan Kangas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Aug 27 05:37:16 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Aug 2020 09:37:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41633 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kBELL-0003pl-QQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 05:37:16 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-f176.google.com ([209.85.219.176]:42780) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kBELJ-0003pL-PA for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 05:37:14 -0400 Received: by mail-yb1-f176.google.com with SMTP id a34so2591076ybj.9 for <41147@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 02:37:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2ZdTRn5mOVmhontvDrKWcuaaxwMtgmXHRbdBbBx8LvE=; b=A7NcgCQ6UKdaznFk3rOfkNzjXmRsX3CyfujIpI/OBNt4z39Zp40X5Htjk7eZXNegcK M208Z16yMndUdYne9voDEEp95CmUBJerM4OmHE4vAFg/BgTOd0K8ZrzSkHmLl3kM1GjG rJn8wlR7/smsiZ5In0U+MfhZU3OATthhq74VgviMNjMld6Nk5SPTU77haYY0drDC7vd0 vvd93auX/xGr7A5vjspKSFxJcluVl2HqcwmpK7tGHr2lO21AC6zAT4FTi3D/hzNc4DES 5KFpIjpzl6eAO3zP0disTgGN7zbNsMEwx2vijIffTSFlL9fE7VAMEQdl2s23yP8FFEjJ kcrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531qEs1+cOysWsTUvAh4zJeAzVmBF+27TwFLPd2B4l2Vw7ImNqWz GlCqHiCBLXRmqfOvFuQ25hK4kFJtVGJIYufsRKM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwpEdateSu1n0MPCI1mhFHYr70OHp4gKdnUEofMwJ9qqIPdRHVFDjxjB7uIBxSwjyVK8gheW+KTzwARYG6HFAg= X-Received: by 2002:a25:4609:: with SMTP id t9mr26448573yba.231.1598521028333; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 02:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 02:37:08 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> <83eenw7hwv.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 02:37:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org, lars@matholka.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) Stefan Kangas writes: > OK, I'll send this question to emacs-devel when I find some time. Now sent to emacs-devel: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-08/msg00886.html From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 11 16:33:23 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2020 20:33:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45693 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGpjW-0000Us-Uc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:33:23 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f53.google.com ([209.85.208.53]:39058) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGpjV-0000Ug-5V for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:33:21 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f53.google.com with SMTP id e22so917718edq.6 for <41147@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:33:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nYGyOoh9Z9mzqLyo5Bf26jH1Jm0J7WQ4Ppd7Z+InQg4=; b=jCxGyotTIS4U5Vrx1VSD3Yx+AExBAEFUvsXErwSwxmUh0Kaoc+2jJ6nvzD/Ha2KAQL 24HvpjHt67LhbJdHGGH+v5YzDojm/MyTZlTgslmVbXf06hys1+Rh0JtUzwvP2SDVaedx /qUb2K7flbHJx2CwO4a8ISFhJOGU+m0xiGFZlCeYB7Rw6K5bd9+SPv9EDRJsevjDq/LD Id1P/fncBoEw8WVIR7h/LIqc3wEvLmovou935evIM81rHg2Y/JZEmqGp99zuTRUWZyIe V9Uof2jrVzEcI0J6bACVTq4LDW9qVSzREOl5AbZ8aFDa6ZhY2CCjQ68wGDSm2rugohB3 sTfA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533jme1kEtiv2ILt9SIfI7VKkT0G0b4zhe7OZ85dOf196Z7w2BVu SJtg6Re6AIHz69Tg5/juRkPKb2EHjnNmPm2pzTA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJysuFBoKF/eeGzY+9y0xxeAC7VTPPhIlJliN00NZMEnBUf5TAIjhA5Cxez9o/ANud6gF6ts+3PZTb95fUVjZ7w= X-Received: by 2002:a50:d7ca:: with SMTP id m10mr4485855edj.259.1599856395396; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:33:14 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> <83eenw7hwv.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:33:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="00000000000023cc8405af0f9834" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org, lars@matholka.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --00000000000023cc8405af0f9834 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Stefan Kangas writes: > Now sent to emacs-devel: > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-08/msg00886.html After a long round of bike-shedding, the result of the discussion was that 'invocation-name' is not important, whereas a subset of users argued strongly in favor of 'system-name'. While I think the latter is superfluous and better added in an Init file or site file, I think adding the buffer name and replacing 'invocation-name' with "GNU Emacs" is already a step forward. 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12 Sep 2020 06:07:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46009 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGyhb-0007pn-6Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 02:07:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:47050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGyhZ-0007pc-4k for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 02:07:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58198) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGyhT-0002CZ-8k; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 02:07:51 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2653 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGyhS-0001ww-Ex; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 02:07:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 09:07:50 +0300 Message-Id: <83wo0zede1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:33:14 -0700) Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> <83eenw7hwv.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org, lars@matholka.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 13:33:14 -0700 > Cc: lars@matholka.se, 41147@debbugs.gnu.org > > After a long round of bike-shedding, the result of the discussion was > that 'invocation-name' is not important, whereas a subset of users > argued strongly in favor of 'system-name'. > > While I think the latter is superfluous and better added in an Init file > or site file, I think adding the buffer name and replacing > 'invocation-name' with "GNU Emacs" is already a step forward. > > I therefore suggest to install the attached patch. Thanks, please go ahead. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Sep 13 12:37:39 2020 Received: (at 41147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2020 16:37:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51497 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kHV0V-00019U-Bh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:37:39 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f53.google.com ([209.85.208.53]:44485) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kHV0T-00019A-8I for 41147@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 12:37:38 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f53.google.com with SMTP id b12so15227639edz.11 for <41147@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:37:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/MyKHvK9WNoNKROEo37L3OaWcCy2bgvpoFPWlwVft/g=; b=o1aEKZwOVMctDmkmRkhYoa9T2/S2PRC1UM523LTB/cmaHc6u/9md7m0jh3UHPwdul2 wU1ByuqbZiwroNPPhR+NpVqzhcBOV02s/1JQFstKxaVD44H4/cOG24zxsCN5VuApZk5B IooTxHmfge3mDe0ZEK+c7UK2TXVGCQ007Talo2E7Whscaw8Yo4tA2ztuPQpFEMGApHnf i/4lm90MIhfoOP/vzZKa1qzu7O9H/JlsAYiujrH50QF/Kd02CBMaDNftilraVNG50YZ0 hjntRTv8Bn/0pwfw/iLzsTgNZya7j8E+xsIiNz0BIZCwK4ppUbdmgjs37atH+o3BDrB6 YJmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531DhvJoDFhuMUvR8rHQrT8CLN8CgkLTtlt6WcesEfDA9NTE07Td vc23tokE97E3+UwS1/I0beGHIFROthsnRD/LFuQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzhPyRUtQ2ehVTi/dDKHfEIj6t6DDvlFYDYhgtnrykbpr+zpgYA+uBXoDYcJcHfooU2NEaZFWJZtVDbOXtgIWw= X-Received: by 2002:a50:e685:: with SMTP id z5mr3963603edm.259.1600015051522; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:37:31 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <83wo0zede1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <54e1bb29-8f1c-b9b8-ad06-33167f0f098b@matholka.se> <802ea178-6ecc-6da4-b38b-fb3e87a74fb4@matholka.se> <83eenw7hwv.fsf@gnu.org> <83wo0zede1.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:37:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#41147: A modern frame-title-format To: Eli Zaretskii Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41147 Cc: 41147@debbugs.gnu.org, lars@matholka.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) close 41147 28.1 thanks Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I therefore suggest to install the attached patch. > > Thanks, please go ahead. Thanks. Now pushed to master as commit 817dd54649. From unknown Thu Jun 19 14:04:42 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 11:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator