From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 05 21:34:56 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2020 01:34:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37974 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jW8xc-0003U5-9X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 21:34:56 -0400 Received: from antelope.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.4]:43141) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jW8xZ-0003Tw-JF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 05 May 2020 21:34:54 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D055A101160 for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 01:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-9-23.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.9.23]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 75924100E4E for ; Wed, 6 May 2020 01:34:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.8); Wed, 06 May 2020 01:34:51 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Fumbling-Dime: 0ebc0efa1f2566ab_1588728891704_1403247017 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1588728891704:1749053674 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1588728891703 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB13B1B99 for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:34:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=Yaa/X8dPvjY9DGjvH7wS50bqgLU=; b=MW6kssUlKv9qXRCM jea9AQdmxyVR5zc7N8VXYwnKNXdadkQPOWCwuNGOkZRTmFO1b04VnG7F0NrUpPb5 TeZdLHrDbyfwKc6/vi3qjxCpQv0QZ4ztZP5hNg+xCHKmG5b/Dws4RXGhh2SKdHBl /taFIU3F2XEuFQ9BRd3LEGyTbdQ= Received: from jidanni.org (220-140-8-245.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [220.140.8.245]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a91.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79072B1B9C for ; Tue, 5 May 2020 18:34:50 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a91 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: When messages have no Date: X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 07:23:43 +0800 Message-ID: <878si6c6f4.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrjeejgdejfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepleetffegtdetveekffevffejiedvkeekkeetueektefhgfefjeektddtheeigeffnecukfhppedvvddtrddugedtrdekrddvgeehnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgepvdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpedvvddtrddugedtrdekrddvgeehpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepshhusghmihhtseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhg X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Got an idea: if a mail arrives without a Date: header, gnus should add a X-Gnus-Artificial-Date: header. And when opening such messages, if no Date: is found, use the X-Gnus-Artificial-Date: header when making dates for the *Summary* buffer. That way instead of 1970 dates, you'll have dates certainly just a day or two from the real date (when they sent the mail, that we don't know.) -AND/OR- Dig the earliest date out of all the Received headers. My idea increases the accuracy of the date thousands of times over "1970" (which of course could still be an option for folks who like it.) Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.11) of 2019-09-23, modified by Debian From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 06 07:37:07 2020 Received: (at 41102) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 May 2020 11:37:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38810 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jWIMN-0004Br-4y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 07:37:07 -0400 Received: from black.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.19]:62112) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jWIMK-0004Bg-Ij for 41102@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 May 2020 07:37:05 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CA3100D90 for <41102@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-7-20.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.7.20]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 006DD1001E7 for <41102@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 May 2020 11:37:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.8); Wed, 06 May 2020 11:37:03 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Ruddy-Scare: 46ff1ced338f7c2c_1588765023049_1871501211 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1588765023049:2747941725 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1588765023049 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA957FDD4 for <41102@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 May 2020 04:37:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=uAEgTg/aOYE7PtYpnA8CL2gwpJ0=; b=mmQGY46xxTQBa7xv 4dQT9rWR/UuCzASwaZlwjAPGC+WUcXOediz/0CHMvz1IWT2/GxWrYG/gor4hHryc MzcWvMCizk4T2j8p5624v2LmqKgr9IdSNQPyR51D4N7BU/C0LOFrPIGi9WNGOq5e X2k8AKdR8d/p2tlnNN19qIBDzzY= Received: from jidanni.org (1-170-86-250.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [1.170.86.250]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a46.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4C1A77F59F for <41102@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 6 May 2020 04:37:00 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a46 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: 41102@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: just like totally-fudged-out-message-id Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 19:36:56 +0800 Message-ID: <87wo5ppa5j.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrjeekgdegtdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesthdtredttddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepleetffegtdetveekffevffejiedvkeekkeetueektefhgfefjeektddtheeigeffnecukfhppedurddujedtrdekiedrvdehtdenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddrudejtddrkeeirddvhedtpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepgeduuddtvdesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrgh X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41102 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Just like nnmail.el: (concat "<" (message-unique-id) "@totally-fudged-out-message-id>") Make a X-Gnus-Totally-Fudged-Out-Date header. 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Wed, 6 May 2020 05:03:23 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a46 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: 41102@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Mutt Date: Wed, 06 May 2020 20:03:20 +0800 Message-ID: <87o8r1p8xj.5.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrjeekgdegfecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgfgsehtkeertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpejnnjjnucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvvdevveduffefleegtddvheevgeevtdehheeikeelveegkeehgfeggfeludegleenucfkphepuddrudejtddrkeeirddvhedtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmohguvgepshhmthhppdhhvghlohepjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpedurddujedtrdekiedrvdehtddprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheppeeruhhtfhdqkeerueerheeimhfphefnihehhegsveekreepucffrghnucflrggtohgsshhonhcuoehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjihgurghnnhhisehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhnrhgtphhtthhopeeguddutddvseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhg Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41102 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Let's have a look at what mutt does, q:Quit d:Del u:Undel s:Save m:Mail r:Reply g:Group ?:Help 1 + 5=E6=9C=88 06 =E5=9C=8B=E6=9C=89=E8=B2=A1=E7=94=A2=E7=BD=B2= (0.4K) =E8=AB=8B=E5=9B=9E=E5=A1=AB=E4=BF=A1=E4=BB=B6=E9=A9=97=E8=AD= =89=E7=A2=BC 2 N F 5=E6=9C=88 06 To jidanni@jida (0.1K) test Well the first message is the one with no date. As we can see mutt doesn't say 1970. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 05 07:16:40 2020 Received: (at 41102) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2020 11:16:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HPU-0007Vs-3i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 07:16:40 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39746) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HPS-0007QO-2W for 41102@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 07:16:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=rcm7xPaj8pO1Ysq5F5QunjgzQp1og88524CBKdRj58E=; b=n36bFDaC/R9659Z+crr8TqToYN ovbO4DGdX8lx6jOh4m4oOr2qnxirLHH2VjpRQJVKNXPFu+gcgRRQSbvxJKnjFnFc/CVvDJ4WnxZA2 09a4jj+Plt7g6UCiMVDdV9KEUINRAVa+7RnBh1j7KRI0+oD7I7B6Bh/goIvx+w/1LbOQ=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HPI-00040i-U2; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:16:31 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#41102: When messages have no Date: References: <878si6c6f4.5.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:16:27 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878si6c6f4.5.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Wed, 06 May 2020 07:23:43 +0800") Message-ID: <87r1sl9wc4.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson writes: > Got an idea: if a mail arrives without a Date: header, gnus should add a > X-Gnus-Artificial-Date: header. > > And when opening such messages, if no Date: is found, use the > X-Gnus-Artificial [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41102 Cc: 41102@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Got an idea: if a mail arrives without a Date: header, gnus should add a > X-Gnus-Artificial-Date: header. > > And when opening such messages, if no Date: is found, use the > X-Gnus-Artificial-Date: header when making dates for the *Summary* > buffer. > > That way instead of 1970 dates, you'll have dates certainly just a day > or two from the real date (when they sent the mail, that we don't know.) I don't think we should pretend -- when we don't know what the sent date is, then giving an errorish date (1970, aka year zero) is the best, I think. 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