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([2a00:f41:18d3:be4a:2c:5620:a8f7:8da6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s14sm5720598wme.33.2020.05.05.13.17.39 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 May 2020 13:17:40 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Sebastian Urban Subject: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) Message-ID: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 22:17:39 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::42f; envelope-from=mrsebastianurban@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x42f.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) When I was building PDF of Emacs manual (doc/emacs from 3.05.2020), there were problems with 2 references and missing character. 1. References. pdfTeX warning (dest): name {\(Hooks\)} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one pdfTeX warning (dest): name{VC\040Delete/Rename} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one After digging: For DIRED.TEXI (from build log): l.726: Undefined cross reference `VC Delete/Rename-snt'. l.726: Undefined cross reference `VC Delete/Rename-snt'. l.726: Undefined cross reference `VC Delete/Rename-pg'. In VC1-XTRA.TEXI (L206-211), this reference is for non-TeX formats, for TeX there is longer name. For CUSTOM.TEXI (from build log): l.1885: Undefined cross reference `(Hooks)-snt'. l.1885: Undefined cross reference `(Hooks)-snt'. l.1885: Undefined cross reference `(Hooks)-pg'. I think I fixed this: --- old/custom.texi 2020-05-05 21:20:12.301698100 +0200 +++ new/custom.texi 2020-05-05 21:21:05.926993100 +0200 @@ -1882,7 +1882,7 @@ Since a mode's keymaps are not constructed until it has been loaded, you must delay running code which modifies them, e.g., by putting it -on a @dfn{mode hook} (@pxref{(Hooks)}). For example, Texinfo mode +on a @dfn{mode hook} (@pxref{Hooks}). For example, Texinfo mode runs the hook @code{texinfo-mode-hook}. Here's how you can use the hook to add local bindings for @kbd{C-c n} and @kbd{C-c p}, and remove the one for @kbd{C-c C-x x} in Texinfo mode: 2. Missing character. As for missing character, there is a problem with word "Bahá'í" in CALENDAR.TEXI. In the log I found: Missing character: There is no Ă in font cmr10! Missing character: There is no Ą in font cmr10! Missing character: There is no Ă in font cmr10! Missing character: There is no - in font cmr10! After changing "Bahá'í" to "Baha'i", so ASCII only, the lines above disappeared from the log. S. U. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri May 08 07:32:45 2020 Received: (at 41100) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 May 2020 11:32:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44727 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jX1FF-0006zI-Jk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 07:32:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58348) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jX1FC-0006z4-RD for 41100@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 07:32:43 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53577) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jX1F7-0006Zo-Ht; Fri, 08 May 2020 07:32:37 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2538 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jX1F6-000473-T8; Fri, 08 May 2020 07:32:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 14:32:24 +0300 Message-Id: <83mu6iirw7.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sebastian Urban In-Reply-To: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Tue, 5 May 2020 22:17:39 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#41100: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) References: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sebastian Urban > Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 22:17:39 +0200 > > For DIRED.TEXI (from build log): > l.726: Undefined cross reference `VC Delete/Rename-snt'. > l.726: Undefined cross reference `VC Delete/Rename-snt'. > l.726: Undefined cross reference `VC Delete/Rename-pg'. > In VC1-XTRA.TEXI (L206-211), this reference is for non-TeX formats, > for TeX there is longer name. Fixed. > For CUSTOM.TEXI (from build log): > l.1885: Undefined cross reference `(Hooks)-snt'. > l.1885: Undefined cross reference `(Hooks)-snt'. > l.1885: Undefined cross reference `(Hooks)-pg'. Fixed. > As for missing character, there is a problem with word "Bahá'í" in > CALENDAR.TEXI. In the log I found: > Missing character: There is no Ă in font cmr10! > Missing character: There is no Ą in font cmr10! > Missing character: There is no Ă in font cmr10! > Missing character: There is no - in font cmr10! > After changing "Bahá'í" to "Baha'i", so ASCII only, the lines above > disappeared from the log. I tried to fix this, but I'm not sure the fix will work: ultimately, this is a problem with fonts available to TeX. I'm not sure we should change names that are dear to some people because TeX might not have a suitable font. It could also be a Texinfo problem. Thanks. 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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a15sm1385667ljb.37.2020.05.08.08.07.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 May 2020 08:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#41100: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) To: Eli Zaretskii References: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> <83mu6iirw7.fsf@gnu.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: <9d14d258-dac9-3c73-aed6-8f9426325fad@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 17:07:38 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83mu6iirw7.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) >> As for missing character, there is a problem with word "Bahá'í" in >> CALENDAR.TEXI. In the log I found: >> Missing character: There is no Ă in font cmr10! >> Missing character: There is no Ą in font cmr10! >> Missing character: There is no Ă in font cmr10! >> Missing character: There is no - in font cmr10! >> After changing "Bahá'í" to "Baha'i", so ASCII only, the lines above >> disappeared from the log. > > I tried to fix this, but I'm not sure the fix will work: ultimately, > this is a problem with fonts available to TeX. I'm not sure we should > change names that are dear to some people because TeX might not have a > suitable font. It could also be a Texinfo problem. The funny thing is, even with this message, they looked OK in printed version. Anyway, I changed your fix to "Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}}", updated few other places, in CAL-XTRA.TEXI as well, and I think this fixes everything, these lines no longer appear in log. For CALENDAR.TEXI: <------------------------- DIFF START -------------------------> --- old/calendar.texi 2020-05-08 16:22:02.409211500 +0200 +++ new/calendar.texi 2020-05-08 16:30:54.648170200 +0200 @@ -532,7 +532,7 @@ holidays}, which prompts for the month and year. The holidays known to Emacs include United States holidays and the -major Bah@'{a}@t{'}@'{i}, Chinese, Christian, Islamic, and Jewish +major Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}}, Chinese, Christian, Islamic, and Jewish holidays; also the solstices and equinoxes. @findex list-holidays @@ -769,10 +769,10 @@ twelve @dfn{terrestrial branches} for a total of sixty names that are repeated in a cycle of sixty. -@cindex Bahá'í calendar - The Bahá'í calendar system is based on a solar cycle of 19 months with -19 days each. The four remaining intercalary days are placed -between the 18th and 19th months. +@cindex Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}} calendar + The Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}} calendar system is based on a solar cycle +of 19 months with 19 days each. The four remaining intercalary days +are placed between the 18th and 19th months. @node To Other Calendar @subsection Converting To Other Calendars @@ -810,7 +810,7 @@ (@code{calendar-french-print-date}). @findex calendar-bahai-print-date @item p b -Display Bahá'í date for selected day +Display Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}} date for selected day (@code{calendar-bahai-print-date}). @findex calendar-chinese-print-date @item p C @@ -877,7 +877,7 @@ Move to a date specified with an astronomical (Julian) day number (@code{calendar-astro-goto-day-number}). @item g b -Move to a date specified in the Bahá'í calendar +Move to a date specified in the Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}} calendar (@code{calendar-bahai-goto-date}). @item g h Move to a date specified in the Hebrew calendar <------------------------- DIFF END -------------------------> And the same for CAL-XTRA.TEXI: <------------------------- DIFF START -------------------------> --- old/cal-xtra.texi 2020-05-08 16:47:55.839947000 +0200 +++ new/cal-xtra.texi 2020-05-08 16:56:02.498805500 +0200 @@ -202,8 +202,9 @@ @minus{}1 the last occurrence, @minus{}2 the second-to-last occurrence, and so on). - You can specify holidays that occur on fixed days of the Bahá'í, -Chinese, Hebrew, Islamic, and Julian calendars too. For example, + You can specify holidays that occur on fixed days of the +Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}}, Chinese, Hebrew, Islamic, and Julian calendars +too. For example, @smallexample (setq holiday-other-holidays @@ -513,11 +514,11 @@ @subsection Diary Entries Using non-Gregorian Calendars As well as entries based on the standard Gregorian calendar, your -diary can have entries based on Bahá'í, Chinese, Hebrew, or Islamic dates. -Recognition of such entries can be time-consuming, however, and since -most people don't use them, you must explicitly enable their use. If -you want the diary to recognize Hebrew-date diary entries, for example, -you must do this: +diary can have entries based on Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}}, Chinese, Hebrew, +or Islamic dates. Recognition of such entries can be time-consuming, +however, and since most people don't use them, you must explicitly +enable their use. If you want the diary to recognize Hebrew-date diary +entries, for example, you must do this: @vindex diary-nongregorian-listing-hook @vindex diary-nongregorian-marking-hook @@ -535,7 +536,7 @@ @end smallexample @noindent -Similarly, for Islamic, Bahá'í and Chinese entries, add +Similarly, for Islamic, Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}} and Chinese entries, add @code{diary-islamic-list-entries} and @code{diary-islamic-mark-entries}, @code{diary-bahai-list-entries} and @code{diary-bahai-mark-entries}, or @code{diary-chinese-list-entries} and @code{diary-chinese-mark-entries}. @@ -546,14 +547,14 @@ @vindex diary-islamic-entry-symbol These diary entries have the same formats as Gregorian-date diary entries; except that @code{diary-bahai-entry-symbol} (default @samp{B}) -must precede a Bahá'í date, @code{diary-chinese-entry-symbol} (default -@samp{C}) a Chinese date, @code{diary-hebrew-entry-symbol} (default -@samp{H}) a Hebrew date, and @code{diary-islamic-entry-symbol} (default -@samp{I}) an Islamic date. Moreover, non-Gregorian month names may not -be abbreviated (because the first three letters are often not unique). -(Note also that you must use ``Adar I'' if you want Adar of a common -Hebrew year.) For example, a diary entry for the Hebrew date Heshvan 25 -could look like this: +must precede a Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}} date, @code{diary-chinese-entry-symbol} +(default @samp{C}) a Chinese date, @code{diary-hebrew-entry-symbol} +(default @samp{H}) a Hebrew date, and @code{diary-islamic-entry-symbol} +(default @samp{I}) an Islamic date. Moreover, non-Gregorian month names +may not be abbreviated (because the first three letters are often not +unique). (Note also that you must use ``Adar I'' if you want Adar of a +common Hebrew year.) For example, a diary entry for the Hebrew date +Heshvan 25 could look like this: @smallexample HHeshvan 25 Happy Hebrew birthday! @@ -574,7 +575,7 @@ Here is a table of commands used in the calendar to create diary entries that match the selected date and other dates that are similar in -the Bahá'í, Chinese, Hebrew, or Islamic calendars: +the Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}}, Chinese, Hebrew, or Islamic calendars: @table @kbd @item i h d @@ -962,8 +963,8 @@ @item %%(diary-astro-day-number) Make a diary entry with today's equivalent astronomical (Julian) day number. @item %%(diary-bahai-date) -Make a diary entry with today's equivalent Bahá'í calendar date. +Make a diary entry with today's equivalent Bah@'a'@'{@dotless{i}} +calendar date. @item %%(diary-chinese-date) Make a diary entry with today's equivalent Chinese calendar date. @item %%(diary-coptic-date) <------------------------- DIFF END -------------------------> S. U. 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The result in Info is correct without it. 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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r12sm1405726ljc.12.2020.05.08.08.31.28 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 May 2020 08:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#41100: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) To: Eli Zaretskii References: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> <83mu6iirw7.fsf@gnu.org> <9d14d258-dac9-3c73-aed6-8f9426325fad@gmail.com> <834ksqihio.fsf@gnu.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: <2b49dd37-986c-4835-be55-a9fb025e1974@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 17:31:36 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <834ksqihio.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F7BE856CD2BAF7FDF86AFD44" Content-Language: en-GB X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F7BE856CD2BAF7FDF86AFD44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Why do we need @dotless? what happens if we don't use it? The result > in Info is correct without it. Quick test shows that "Bah@'a'@'i" gives correct result in plain text and HTML, but in PDF I get accent above "i" (complete "i", not dotless) - see picture. S. 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8 May 2020 17:10:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46222 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jX6WB-0007Kx-RM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 13:10:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:38792) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jX6W9-0007Ki-OS for 41100@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 08 May 2020 13:10:34 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:33986) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jX6W4-0007KQ-IQ; Fri, 08 May 2020 13:10:28 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jX6W3-00050U-Kj; Fri, 08 May 2020 13:10:27 -0400 From: Glenn Morris To: Sebastian Urban Subject: Re: bug#41100: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) References: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> X-Spook: weapons of mass destruction Bomb squad Center for Disease X-Ran: `5qN@zlpA+t^c`8R?FLqeLqVPyrx2BPS2,C>baEaCQ;#F{ (Sebastian Urban's message of "Tue, 5 May 2020 22:17:39 +0200") Message-ID: <2ja72imjy4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Sebastian Urban wrote: > As for missing character, there is a problem with word "Bah=C3=A1'=C3=AD"= in > CALENDAR.TEXI. In the log I found: > Missing character: There is no =C4=82 in font cmr10! FTR, I don't see this on Debian testing, RHEL7, or RHEL8. Those characters have been in the source for years. The PDF at eg https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/pdf/emacs-xtra.pdf looks fine. So perhaps something is different about your system. 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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q16sm1614637ljj.23.2020.05.08.10.26.42 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 08 May 2020 10:26:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#41100: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) To: Glenn Morris References: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> <2ja72imjy4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: <9fb36427-7ae0-2740-aad8-d22bd7f1ec2e@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 19:26:51 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2ja72imjy4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > FTR, I don't see this on Debian testing, RHEL7, or RHEL8. Did you check "log" in the terminal after executing "texi2pdf" (it doesn't appear there) or the one written to the file "emacs.log" (with --tidy, it's in "./emacs.t2d/pdf/build/")? S. U. 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([2a00:f41:18aa:532f:ade4:201d:e992:e4f5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r20sm16268834wmh.26.2020.05.09.03.04.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 May 2020 03:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#41100: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) To: Eli Zaretskii References: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> <83mu6iirw7.fsf@gnu.org> <9d14d258-dac9-3c73-aed6-8f9426325fad@gmail.com> <834ksqihio.fsf@gnu.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: <4c996d16-8079-8813-c0b1-fd07798ce03d@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 12:04:09 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <834ksqihio.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) As an alternative "Bah@'a'@U{00ED}" also seems to work. It is shorter, but it is also less readable. S. U. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat May 09 06:15:51 2020 Received: (at 41100) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 May 2020 10:15:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46807 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMWN-0004RK-Cu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:15:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:36130) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMWM-0004R7-Ke for 41100@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:15:50 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:49492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMWH-0004Ok-Dm; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:15:45 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2613 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXMWG-0000dj-Sa; Sat, 09 May 2020 06:15:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 13:15:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83tv0pfm7t.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Sebastian Urban In-Reply-To: <4c996d16-8079-8813-c0b1-fd07798ce03d@gmail.com> (message from Sebastian Urban on Sat, 9 May 2020 12:04:09 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#41100: 2 undefined references and missing character (Emacs manual, PDF) References: <159ca2b9-e9c3-a01d-080b-3201ed8c5a79@gmail.com> <83mu6iirw7.fsf@gnu.org> <9d14d258-dac9-3c73-aed6-8f9426325fad@gmail.com> <834ksqihio.fsf@gnu.org> <4c996d16-8079-8813-c0b1-fd07798ce03d@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Sebastian Urban > Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 12:04:09 +0200 > > As an alternative "Bah@'a'@U{00ED}" also seems to work. It is > shorter, but it is also less readable. But Glenn says the original also works. Also, I understand from you that the log is the only indication of some problem, the actual PDF is OK. In which case I see no reason to make our manual harder to read in its Texinfo form. Glenn, can you please chime in and tell what you see on your systems, and more generally what is your take on this issue? TIA. 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83wo5mgx3q.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3227B7F345C69B87BC9EFF59" Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: Glenn Morris , Sebastian Urban , 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3227B7F345C69B87BC9EFF59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/8/20 10:22 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> They all seem to display fine in eg >> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/pdf/emacs-xtra.pdf > Sebastian seems to say that is not the case? The original problem report was about the Texinfo input =E2=80=9CBah=C3=A1= '=C3=AD=E2=80=9D (with U+0027 APOSTROPHE), which Texinfo renders as =E2=80=9CBah=C3=A1=E2=80=99=C3=AD=E2= =80=9D (with U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK) in info and as something similar-looking in TeX. The quick patch was to change the Texinfo input to =E2=80=9CBah@'{a}@t{'}= @'{i}=E2=80=9D; the @' calls were to suppress false-alarm diagnostics and I don't know why the @= t{'} was put in. It now appears that there's no need to worry about the false-alarm diagno= stics (the output is fine, as Glenn noted). Also, the @t{'} is not necessary in= that it puts one wrong character into the output (namely, U+0027) instead of a different wrong character (namely, U+2019). The preferred Unicode spelling these days is =E2=80=9CBah=C3=A1=CA=BC=C3=AD= =E2=80=9D (with U+02BC MODIFIED LETTER APOSTROPHE). However, although Texinfo can handle that character a= nd puts it into info files, the character doesn=E2=80=99t survive transliteration= to TeX (it gets lost). I don't know whether this is a bug in Texinfo or in TeX, but = anyway we need to work around it if we're going to use the correct spelling. I suggest that we use the preferred spelling in info files, and fall back= on the previous behavior of using apostrophe (which TeX renders like the right s= ingle quotation mark) when outputting to TeX. I=E2=80=99m attaching a proposed = patch, which I emailed to Eli earlier before seeing this bug report. 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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h84sm6653470lfd.88.2020.05.10.02.34.40 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2020 02:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: emacs-27 7081c1d: Fix typos in the Emacs user manual To: Paul Eggert , Eli Zaretskii References: <20200508112249.18810.62466@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200508112251.1183120B2F@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83wo5mgx3q.fsf@gnu.org> <816dcd95-9a30-f0da-247d-e841ae315baf@cs.ucla.edu> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 11:34:39 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <816dcd95-9a30-f0da-247d-e841ae315baf@cs.ucla.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: Glenn Morris , 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > The preferred Unicode spelling these days is “Baháʼí” (with U+02BC MODIFIED > LETTER APOSTROPHE). However, although Texinfo can handle that character and puts > it into info files, the character doesn’t survive transliteration to TeX (it > gets lost). I don't know whether this is a bug in Texinfo or in TeX, but anyway > we need to work around it if we're going to use the correct spelling. AND from patch: > +@iftex > +@c TeX mishandles ʼ (U+02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE), so approximate > +@c it with ', which TeX renders as a right single quotation mark. > +@set Bahai Bahá'í > +@end iftex When I put this "modified letter apostrophe" alone in calendar.texi and build PDF, in emacs.log the following line appear: "Unicode char @u8:ʼ not defined for Texinfo", so perhaps it is Texinfo that "mishandles" the apostrophe, not TeX. S. U. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 10 05:51:11 2020 Received: (at 41100) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2020 09:51:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXic2-0004v8-Q6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 05:51:10 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:45729) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXibz-0004uw-Gf for 41100@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 05:51:10 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49KfTP6zqqz1qrfD; Sun, 10 May 2020 11:51:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.70]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49KfTP1wYtz1qrKh; Sun, 10 May 2020 11:51:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.70]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SBKYEfclvXwc; Sun, 10 May 2020 11:51:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: YmodXNmNX7Q6p9QRfOWs7yqCaCUXsEcOmX5LZtW/7EZ4ND95gd1O4SH5IHux4pBU Received: from hase.home (ppp-46-244-181-47.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.181.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Sun, 10 May 2020 11:51:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hase.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B4BFF10154D; Sun, 10 May 2020 11:51:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Sebastian Urban Subject: Re: bug#41100: emacs-27 7081c1d: Fix typos in the Emacs user manual References: <20200508112249.18810.62466@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200508112251.1183120B2F@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83wo5mgx3q.fsf@gnu.org> <816dcd95-9a30-f0da-247d-e841ae315baf@cs.ucla.edu> X-Yow: I feel real SOPHISTICATED being in FRANCE! Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 11:51:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Sebastian Urban's message of "Sun, 10 May 2020 11:34:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87k11krud4.fsf@linux-m68k.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Mai 10 2020, Sebastian Urban wrote: > When I put this "modified letter apostrophe" alone in calendar.texi > and build PDF, in emacs.log the following line appear: "Unicode char > @u8:ʼ not defined for Texinfo", so perhaps it is Texinfo that > "mishandles" the apostrophe, not TeX. Look for \DeclareUnicodeCharacter in texinfo.tex to see the list of Unicode characters that are supported. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." 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Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 11:58:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Sebastian Urban's message of "Sun, 10 May 2020 11:34:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87ftc8ru0h.fsf@linux-m68k.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Mai 10 2020, Sebastian Urban wrote: > When I put this "modified letter apostrophe" alone in calendar.texi > and build PDF, in emacs.log the following line appear: "Unicode char > @u8:ʼ not defined for Texinfo", so perhaps it is Texinfo that > "mishandles" the apostrophe, not TeX. When using XeTeX or LuaTeX, texinfo uses their native UTF-8 support, which means all characters are supported. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." 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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y129sm6777167lfc.23.2020.05.10.03.14.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2020 03:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#41100: emacs-27 7081c1d: Fix typos in the Emacs user manual To: Andreas Schwab References: <20200508112249.18810.62466@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200508112251.1183120B2F@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83wo5mgx3q.fsf@gnu.org> <816dcd95-9a30-f0da-247d-e841ae315baf@cs.ucla.edu> <87k11krud4.fsf@linux-m68k.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: <918cfaa3-6c91-0797-6249-8f03cb7fd27f@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 12:14:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87k11krud4.fsf@linux-m68k.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: 41100@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > Look for \DeclareUnicodeCharacter in texinfo.tex to see the list of > Unicode characters that are supported. Looks like in TEXINFO.TEX v2020-05-08.18 there is no "DeclareUnicodeCharacter" for this character, but I guess it shouldn't be that difficult to add it. Maybe we could request it? S. U. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun May 10 10:39:42 2020 Received: (at 41100) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2020 14:39:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50200 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXn7F-0001Xd-Qb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 10:39:42 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jXn73-0001X5-Dm for 41100@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 May 2020 10:39:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jXn6v-0007LE-A6; Sun, 10 May 2020 10:39:22 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2760 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jXn6u-00019r-5a; Sun, 10 May 2020 10:39:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 17:39:12 +0300 Message-Id: <83tv0ndfcf.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Paul Eggert In-Reply-To: <816dcd95-9a30-f0da-247d-e841ae315baf@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Sat, 9 May 2020 14:29:00 -0700) Subject: Re: emacs-27 7081c1d: Fix typos in the Emacs user manual References: <20200508112249.18810.62466@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200508112251.1183120B2F@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83wo5mgx3q.fsf@gnu.org> <816dcd95-9a30-f0da-247d-e841ae315baf@cs.ucla.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, mrsebastianurban@gmail.com, 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: Glenn Morris , 41100@debbugs.gnu.org, > Sebastian Urban , Glenn Morris > From: Paul Eggert > Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 14:29:00 -0700 > > It now appears that there's no need to worry about the false-alarm diagnostics > (the output is fine, as Glenn noted). Also, the @t{'} is not necessary in that > it puts one wrong character into the output (namely, U+0027) instead of a > different wrong character (namely, U+2019). The @t{} trick was to avoid converting ' into ’, which is definitely not how this word should be displayed. So I think the @iftex part of your proposal needs to use @t{'}. > The preferred Unicode spelling these days is “Baháʼí” (with U+02BC MODIFIED > LETTER APOSTROPHE). Is that official? Can you tell where you saw that this is the preferred spelling? We should be very careful with such situations, as people tend to get offended when their names or the names of their nation or religion or language is misspelled. Thanks. 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83tv0ndfcf.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0DD7D21E8550FB0327E2042C" Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, mrsebastianurban@gmail.com, 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0DD7D21E8550FB0327E2042C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/10/20 7:39 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > The @t{} trick was to avoid converting ' into =E2=80=99, which is defin= itely > not how this word should be displayed. bahai.org disagrees; see below. >> The preferred Unicode spelling these days is =E2=80=9CBah=C3=A1=CA=BC=C3= =AD=E2=80=9D (with U+02BC MODIFIED >> LETTER APOSTROPHE). >=20 > Is that official? Can you tell where you saw that this is the > preferred spelling? I got it from Wikipedia. :-) I looked into it more. There=E2=80=99s nothing official as far as Bah=C3=A1= =E2=80=99=C3=AD and Unicode goes, as far as I could find. The Bah=C3=A1=E2=80=99=C3=AD main website bahai.org spells it =E2=80=9CBa= h=C3=A1=E2=80=99=C3=AD=E2=80=9D (with U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK). Its style guide complains, =E2=80=9CBah=C3=A1=E2=80=99=C3= =AD, Bah=C3=A1=E2=80=99u=E2=80=99ll=C3=A1h, and other names are written with accent marks, but many publications and Web sites = do not have the facility for using such marks.=E2=80=9D[1] without saying whethe= r the accent marks used on its own website are correct or have been bowdlerized in ord= er to cater to browsers lacking U+02BC MODIFIER LETTER APOSTROPHE. Certainly ba= hai.org is doing bowdlerization; for example, their calendar page[2] uses =E2=80=98Sharaf=E2=80=99 to display =E2=80=9CS=CD=9Fharaf=E2=80=9D= , even though Unicode says it should instead use U+035F COMBINING DOUBLE MACRON BELOW between the =E2=80=9CS=E2=80=9D = and the =E2=80=9Ch=E2=80=9D; here the web page is understandably bowdlerizing because too many browsers (Emacs included) don't render the Unicode =E2=80=9CS=CD=9Fharaf=E2=80=9D well. Getting back to the hamzah (the apostrophe-like character in question), h= ere=E2=80=99s how other sources represent it in Latin transliterations: ' U+0027 - ArabTeX (presumably because it displays as U+2019 in TeX) =CA=BC U+02BC - Library of Congress, various geographic names standards (UN, US, UK), Hans Wehr =CA=BE U+02BE - Deutsches Institut f=C3=BCr Normung, Encyclopaedia of I= slam =CB=88 U+02C8 - ISO Presumably English Wikipedia uses U+02BC because of UN/US/UK/LoC. That be= ing said, bahai.org is as definitive as it gets on the web for Bah=C3=A1=E2=80= =99=C3=ADs; if that website uses U+2019 to represent hamzah, we=E2=80=99re in good company an= d can mostly stick with what we=E2=80=99ve got. Proposed patch attached. 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Thanks for the research, this is fine with me. 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[89.161.2.137]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w21sm7232968lji.26.2020.05.10.10.27.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 May 2020 10:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: emacs-27 7081c1d: Fix typos in the Emacs user manual To: Eli Zaretskii , Paul Eggert References: <20200508112249.18810.62466@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20200508112251.1183120B2F@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <83wo5mgx3q.fsf@gnu.org> <816dcd95-9a30-f0da-247d-e841ae315baf@cs.ucla.edu> <83tv0ndfcf.fsf@gnu.org> <83o8qvdb15.fsf@gnu.org> From: Sebastian Urban Message-ID: <86d54c0d-0dc5-d352-f61a-d93008832a3c@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 19:27:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83o8qvdb15.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 41100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) So, if we can ignore the warnings, I guess we can close it (Bug #41100)? 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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <86d54c0d-0dc5-d352-f61a-d93008832a3c@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 41100-done Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 41100-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 5/10/20 10:27 AM, Sebastian Urban wrote: > So, if we can ignore the warnings, I guess we can close it (Bug > #41100)? Sure, done. From unknown Thu Sep 11 17:02:24 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator