From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:14:37 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#4108: 23.1; MS Windows (tested on Vista and XP) scrolling stutters/pauses Reply-To: Reto Hubmann , 4108@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Reto Hubmann Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 4108 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.124992629411139 (code B ref -1); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:50:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Aug 2009 17:44:54 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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(84-75-117-70.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.75.117.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm174672eyb.20.2009.08.10.10.44.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:44:43 -0700 (PDT) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Reto Hubmann Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:46:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87ab2736la.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Scrolling problems get worse with complicated sources. Try color-theme-library.el. It is already happening with the default font (Courier New). But selecting fixedsys font for example is making it far worse. It happens when scrolling down with C-n. I hope tis can be fixed because it keeps me from using 23 and I stick with 22 as the problem does not exist there. It may have something to do with the new font engine, I don't really know though... 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[2 times] kill-region: The mark is not set now, so there is no region [2 times] From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 26 20:52:15 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2010 01:52:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NZx4p-0001L8-3A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:52:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NZx4n-0001Kz-Cy for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:52:13 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NZx4j-0008Do-Q1; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:52:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19295.40009.742711.907136@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:52:09 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control X-Attribution: GM X-Mailer: VM (www.wonderworks.com/vm), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs) X-Hue: black X-Ran: .,Id9;5qiQf&2n,<1Q)pSe~'s"9B`l,&Ounxr+7\iedM93C_oK>"#$=D?*3Jqnu(&EvTR4 X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) tags 4053 moreinfo reassign 4066 emacs,org-mode reassign 4068 emacs,org-mode severity 4068 minor unarchive 4087 reassign 4087 notemacs tags 4094 moreinfo merge 4094 4096 merge 1611 3978 4108 unarchive 4097 unarchive 4130 merge 4097 4130 tags 4140 moreinfo close 4146 reassign 4151 emacs,ns tags 4192 patch From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:14:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#4108: 23.1; MS Windows (tested on Vista and XP) scrolling stutters/pauses Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:26:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4108 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reto Hubmann Cc: 4108@debbugs.gnu.org, 1611@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 4108-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4108.15698283464642 (code B ref 4108); Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:26:03 +0000 Received: (at 4108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 07:25:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56726 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq41-0001Cm-Qj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:25:46 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq3z-0001Ca-TQ; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:25:44 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq3w-0004cI-OX; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:25:43 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87ab2736la.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:25:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ab2736la.fsf@gmail.com> (Reto Hubmann's message of "Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:46:09 +0200") Message-ID: <878sq6i6tn.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Reto Hubmann writes: > Scrolling problems get worse with complicated sources. Try > color-theme-library.el. It is already happening with the default font > (Courier New). But selecting fixedsys font for example is making [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Reto Hubmann writes: > Scrolling problems get worse with complicated sources. Try > color-theme-library.el. It is already happening with the default font > (Courier New). But selecting fixedsys font for example is making it > far worse. It happens when scrolling down with C-n. I hope tis can be > fixed because it keeps me from using 23 and I stick with 22 as the > problem does not exist there. It may have something to do with the new > font engine, I don't really know though... (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any response at the time.) I don't think I've heard about any slow-scrolling issues on Windows for quite some time (this bug report is ten years old). Are you still seeing these problems? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 30 03:25:51 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 07:25:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq47-0001DH-J8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:25:51 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46050) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq45-0001D8-Q9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:25:50 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEq43-0004cU-5n for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:25:49 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:25:46 +0200 Message-Id: <877e5qi6th.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #1611 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 1611 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 1611 + moreinfo quit From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:14:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#4108: bug#1611: bug#4108: 23.1; MS Windows (tested on Vista and XP) scrolling stutters/pauses Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4108 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: 4108@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 4108-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4108.156982873612284 (code B ref 4108); Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 4108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 07:32:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqAK-0003Bm-64 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:32:16 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46230) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqAI-0003A7-Ek for 4108@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:32:14 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqAF-0004ez-Cb for 4108@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:32:13 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87ab2736la.fsf@gmail.com> <878sq6i6tn.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:32:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <878sq6i6tn.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:25:40 +0200") Message-ID: <87lfu6gryc.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: The mail bounced, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) The mail bounced, so I'm closing this bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 30 03:32:23 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 07:32:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56759 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqAP-0003GD-HY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:32:23 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:46242) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqAN-0003EZ-O7 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 03:32:20 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqAL-0004f5-0A for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:32:18 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:32:16 +0200 Message-Id: <87k19qgry7.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #1611 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: close 1611 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 1611 quit From unknown Thu Aug 14 22:14:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#4108: 23.1; MS Windows (tested on Vista and XP) scrolling stutters/pauses Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4108 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 4108@debbugs.gnu.org, 1611@debbugs.gnu.org, retohu@gmail.com Received: via spool by 4108-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4108.1569830827852 (code B ref 4108); Mon, 30 Sep 2019 08:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 4108) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2019 08:07:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56866 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqi3-0000Da-9D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:07:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:39659) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqi1-0000Cz-48; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:07:05 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:34964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqhw-0003VO-11; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:07:00 -0400 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2420 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1iEqhu-0006Sa-5c; Mon, 30 Sep 2019 04:06:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 11:06:52 +0300 Message-Id: <83wodqcin7.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <878sq6i6tn.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:25:40 +0200) References: <87ab2736la.fsf@gmail.com> <878sq6i6tn.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:25:40 +0200 > Cc: 4108@debbugs.gnu.org, 1611@debbugs.gnu.org > > Reto Hubmann writes: > > > Scrolling problems get worse with complicated sources. Try > > color-theme-library.el. It is already happening with the default font > > (Courier New). But selecting fixedsys font for example is making it > > far worse. It happens when scrolling down with C-n. I hope tis can be > > fixed because it keeps me from using 23 and I stick with 22 as the > > problem does not exist there. It may have something to do with the new > > font engine, I don't really know though... > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately didn't get any > response at the time.) > > I don't think I've heard about any slow-scrolling issues on Windows for > quite some time (this bug report is ten years old). At least bug#1611 compares Emacs from before the introduction of line-move-visual and after it. That variable is non-nil by default, and movement by visual lines is definitely slower than moving by physical lines. It's still reasonably fast IME, but if people want the pre-Emacs-23.1 behavior, they can customize line-move-visual to nil.