From jfinder@crypticstudios.com Sun Aug 9 19:47:33 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Aug 2009 02:47:33 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.6 required=4.0 tests=AWL,FOURLA,THREADTOPIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7A2lVAV018540 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:47:33 -0700 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaKv5-0008Ns-7r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:47:31 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MaKv0-0008M9-BH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:47:30 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43959 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MaKv0-0008M5-5H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:47:26 -0400 Received: from universe.crypticstudios.com ([208.95.187.69]:33870) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MaKuz-0003VB-Nj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:47:25 -0400 Received: from proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com (172.31.97.6) by universe.crypticstudios.com (208.95.187.69) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.311.2; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:47:16 -0700 Received: from proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com ([172.31.97.6]) by proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com ([172.31.97.6]) with mapi; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:47:25 -0700 From: Jared Finder To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:46:17 -0700 Subject: 23.1; Minor bugs in Emacs 23 Thread-Topic: 23.1; Minor bugs in Emacs 23 Thread-Index: AcoRRvYzaeEIRcdBRGyq7f+skryHrgIHcXy2 Message-ID: References: <64CCCAABBBC73A44926EC2CB7E6CBF2B0FF5590746@proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com> In-Reply-To: <64CCCAABBBC73A44926EC2CB7E6CBF2B0FF5590746@proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ I'm trying sending this again -- it seems the first sent version of this di= d not appear in emacsbugs. Since you guys are talking about reorg-ing the = menus, I think now would be a good time to consider the menu changes mentio= ned here. :) I've checked out the new release of Emacs 23 and found the following bugs (= all in Emacs 22) still present: The following commands still should have the CUA move property set: c-forward-conditional c-backward-conditional c-down-conditional c-up-conditional c-down-conditional-with-else c-up-conditional-with-else c-beginning-of-statement c-end-of-statement It would be VERY convenient to have a `global-c-subword-mode' function, def= ined as: (define-global-minor-mode global-c-subword-mode c-subword-mode (lambda () (c-subword-mode 1))) The Microsoft regexp in `compilation-error-regexp-alist-alistis incorrect; = it does not support the "see declaration" messages, it should be: "^ *\\([0-9]+>\\)?\\(\\(?:[a-zA-Z]:\\)?[^:(\t\n]+\\)(\\([0-9]+\\)) : \\(?:s= ee declaration\\|\\(?:warnin\\(g\\)\\|[a-z ]+\\) C[0-9]+:\\)" It would be really nice if all the printing related options in the File men= u got grouped until a "Print" submenu. Please change the "Visit New File" entry to a "New File" entry defined as f= ollows: (define-key menu-bar-file-menu [new-file] '(menu-item "New File" (lambda () (interactive) (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "*untitled*"))) :enable (menu-bar-non-minibuffer-window-p) :help "Create a new buffer")) This corresponds to what just about every other editor on the planet does -= - prompt for a filename when the file is first SAVED. Thank you for making such a great editor! -- MJF In GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6001) of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.0.6001 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1252 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: global-balanced-mode: t hrule-mode: t global-hi-lock-mode: t url-handler-mode: t show-paren-mode: t recentf-mode: t gud-tooltip-mode: t global-reveal-mode: t reveal-mode: t global-c-subword-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: Recent messages: Loading c:/Users/jfinder/Desktop/.emacs.d/lisp.el (source)...done Loading c:/Users/jfinder/Desktop/.emacs.d/lua.el (source)...done Loading c:/Users/jfinder/Desktop/.emacs.d/msdev.el (source)...done Loading c:/Users/jfinder/Desktop/.emacs.d/text.el (source)...done Loading c:/Users/jfinder/Desktop/.emacs.d/xml.el (source)...done Loading c:/Users/jfinder/Desktop/.emacs.d/zz.local.el (source)... Loading vc-svn...done Starting a new list of tags tables Loading c:/Users/jfinder/Desktop/.emacs.d/zz.local.el (source)...done For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. [2 times] From juri@jurta.org Mon Aug 10 17:53:00 2009 Received: (at 4100) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Aug 2009 00:53:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=4.0 tests=AWL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mx1.starman.ee (smtp-out1.starman.ee [85.253.0.3]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7B0qwiL021624 for <4100@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:53:00 -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by Amavisd-New at mx1.starman.ee Received: from mail.starman.ee (82.131.28.100.cable.starman.ee [82.131.28.100]) by mx1.starman.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E1B3F4133; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:52:50 +0300 (EEST) From: Juri Linkov To: Jared Finder Cc: 4100@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#4100: 23.1; Minor bugs in Emacs 23 Organization: JURTA References: <64CCCAABBBC73A44926EC2CB7E6CBF2B0FF5590746@proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:57:57 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Jared Finder's message of "Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:46:17 -0700") Message-ID: <87ljlrjica.fsf@mail.jurta.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Please change the "Visit New File" entry to a "New File" entry > defined as follows: > (define-key menu-bar-file-menu [new-file] > '(menu-item "New File" > (lambda () > (interactive) > (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "*untitled*"))) > :enable (menu-bar-non-minibuffer-window-p) > :help "Create a new buffer")) > > This corresponds to what just about every other editor on the planet > does -- prompt for a filename when the file is first SAVED. This makes sense since this new *untitled* buffer is just like the *scratch* buffer but you need also add (setq buffer-offer-save t) and (auto-save-mode 1) to *untitled* so exiting will ask a question about saving it to a file. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jun 03 05:40:59 2021 Received: (at 4100) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jun 2021 09:40:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42370 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lojqV-0005lX-GM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 05:40:59 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:41216) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lojqU-0005lB-7S for 4100@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 05:40:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=LrPbGABHZXIFl0ujC3TcMLGhIP17v2Z6ERpR6KAMTmg=; b=hs1sHmo4H27/ew86qRhO16Zwsc Cjf+dEhzPpMSfKeu492CSghdCh+9ilnF+sSn9CVv8BMXfRflGoUxuMzLX2K5A9sajcMLYAa1xf+U6 kZa9p28Xsknngz9q8mI22uofxGC+iflrb1B5WMlzujX+2HuxjSRVVy4YJXnz/IFoXwzE=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lojqM-0000Wh-2V; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 11:40:52 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Juri Linkov Subject: Re: bug#4100: 23.1; Minor bugs in Emacs 23 References: <64CCCAABBBC73A44926EC2CB7E6CBF2B0FF5590746@proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com> <87ljlrjica.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Now-Playing: Little Simz's _Grey Area_: "Offence" Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 11:40:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ljlrjica.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 11 Aug 2009 02:57:57 +0300") Message-ID: <877djb5lr2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Juri Linkov writes: >> Please change the "Visit New File" entry to a "New File" entry >> defined as follows: >> (define-key menu-bar-file-menu [new-file] >> '(menu-item "New File" >> (lambda () >> (interactive) >> (switc [...] Content analysis details: (-1.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.1 URIBL_SBL_A Contains URL's A record listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: jurta.org] 1.0 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL's NS IP listed in the Spamhaus SBL blocklist [URIs: jurta.org] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4100 Cc: Jared Finder , 4100@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Juri Linkov writes: >> Please change the "Visit New File" entry to a "New File" entry >> defined as follows: >> (define-key menu-bar-file-menu [new-file] >> '(menu-item "New File" >> (lambda () >> (interactive) >> (switch-to-buffer (generate-new-buffer "*untitled*"))) >> :enable (menu-bar-non-minibuffer-window-p) >> :help "Create a new buffer")) >> >> This corresponds to what just about every other editor on the planet >> does -- prompt for a filename when the file is first SAVED. > > This makes sense since this new *untitled* buffer is just like the > *scratch* buffer but you need also add (setq buffer-offer-save t) > and (auto-save-mode 1) to *untitled* so exiting will ask a question > about saving it to a file. I'm not sure we want to confuse the users any further -- the normal Emacs way here is to prompt for the file at start, and having this menu work the opposite way wouldn't help with this. 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