From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:08:57 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#40951 <40951@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#40951 <40951@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Weird highlighting Reply-To: bug#40951 <40951@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:08:57 +0000 retitle 40951 Weird highlighting reassign 40951 emacs,gnus submitter 40951 =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson severity 40951 minor tag 40951 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Apr 28 20:57:53 2020 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2020 00:57:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41978 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jTb2v-00024M-Dt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:57:53 -0400 Received: from azure.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.7]:24141) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jTb2n-000246-Jd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 20:57:51 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB503413F8 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-21-20.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.21.20]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 27F33340A28 for ; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:57:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (pop.dreamhost.com [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.6); Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:57:43 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jidanni@jidanni.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Hook-Shelf: 19ce36e6582f53b7_1588121863433_3963461380 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1588121863433:2968914343 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1588121863432 Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7027F4C5 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:57:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= jidanni.org; bh=BxFJByiMDl4+f8TpWs0velS15JI=; b=fvjtWO6QWt9iz1L4 4SnReGZzB9fcqO3FajtJXYXx35dhughayz8sOc8p1/aU3jafU+YrsTw6aWVWu7d1 Oj3BwGYCrz065411AK2lsv4+CpU8rYFKMqU+eOkmsf2lV8ur7Pa/M3HumM/mKdJb Bq5VoLqTbetkPYE7kxhS17H77gY= Received: from jidanni.org (1-170-83-193.dynamic-ip.hinet.net [1.170.83.193]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a20.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4048F7F4AD for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:57:42 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a20 From: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: Weird highlighting X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: emacs,gnus Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:52:37 +0800 Message-ID: <87imhj6rl6.8.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: 0 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedriedvgdefkecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgesmhdtreertddtjeenucfhrhhomhepnjjnnjcuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqnecukfhppedurddujedtrdekfedrudelfeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehjihgurghnnhhirdhorhhgpdhinhgvthepuddrudejtddrkeefrdduleefpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpeeprehuthhfqdekreeureehiehmpfehnfhiheehsgevkeerpecuffgrnhculfgrtghosghsohhnuceojhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrgheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhiuggrnhhnihesjhhiuggrnhhnihdrohhrghdpnhhrtghpthhtohepshhusghmihhtseguvggssghughhsrdhgnhhurdhorhhg X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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[pipe to procmail:] --=-=-= Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Martin Ward Message-ID: <87sggn6rw3.8.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id> Subject: Re: How NASA does software testing and QA (Functionize) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:05:17 +0800 Lines: 27 A couple of quotes from the article that I found depressing: > Crumbley recommends the CMMI Institute's Capability Maturity Model > Integration (CMMI) as a good process model. CMMI defined five "maturity levels" starting at level 1: "Processes unpredictable, poorly controlled and reactive." So to say that you use "CMMI" just means you have decided which maturity level your process is currently defined as. You could be level 1 and happy with it! Crumbley does not say what level NASA's software development department has currently reached, or what level they are aiming at nor what steps they are taking to reach the desired level. Instead he says: > We use the CMMI model as a tool to see how our software development > practices compare with other industries "Other industries" have woefully inadequate software development practices: as exemplified in every issue of comp.risks! Comparing yourself with them just gives a false sense of security. NASA's software requirements are so much more stringent than the vast majority of other industries: on other industries, if the software more-or-less works, only needs rebooting occasionally and only has a few zero-day exploits per week, then the software is considered to be a success. He does not even *mention* formal methods. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain No such bug when viewed in mutt. Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.11) of 2019-09-23, modified by Debian --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 29 03:45:13 2020 Received: (at 40951) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2020 07:45:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42268 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jThP0-0003aq-Ao for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 03:45:13 -0400 Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com ([209.85.128.54]:37712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jThOy-0003Zs-Kc for 40951@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 03:45:05 -0400 Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id z6so868068wml.2 for <40951@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:45:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lsujHZE1CJBZMVAJpYiVNevi11ZdL4Ee1/wMs4gvluQ=; b=Rzm7GtqcNpzWz+96zob+B/6NK2QjWgKtf/el1tRtl0Fdw166XXEMEtfF9E8sl5Y5CD I28w8t3mBHT/56VpDiBeKPeZT0vVSrusOB4wG6uhyq9OL7+pBwmU4yDP8QqVk4hd2kta TtmEUy645FH7N+j1DYuhRYwj9dD6Qvz4AKGbj/pAMburH/geFpgTMlx3TWDX1bAnjkAV xIzPY8zdQ44Q5zsAIix6jOank9yXoL+T2FpVxQhVAlNIAGdzOI2U674ShQGAeLuR8dly cTZwbT2UY8rc7kILCgc5B3ZDNJAYIm1qvxhl2IJV7l45KOwGC27dqWUhU6RRrUi4ogWY q+IA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lsujHZE1CJBZMVAJpYiVNevi11ZdL4Ee1/wMs4gvluQ=; b=F2QJv+wLtgsYOgjTKl/Wufwhigodw6c5a52boQCSik3nDmjK6S1iw+fL7XSsjypNyS 83TMORsDSbRQHVodF0ZRSFQgN0uqKo/fa04vZV2pc6V7jTfwGArL1dOdn+s57UGyu/ak veP1hFuZ3B7bSu5ZRJw+sN5UEikwtmg2UyodvdvzJFshVfS+UJdaOGNfKV/QAlwB/kZ3 Q+F6cq+qbwYg5HOBA/S+sT93oqY/VfSfQ8CCaT+3cxielZYPVJ/d4xxAZ0lsHxKoU6Vq Yecy6tMILHJW16fjcjWnrRl25j4Zw01x6tI3xPqQ4qqNlsx2dTxvMeLCb93A6XAADcMe 8z0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuabyAhdCLL06IMURSzEnDpyrEJEjJFrYZkCbnX6hoUh0/AGm8YW BP2YgFeFxpoRkO5Eb8D4lcr3eQmxgcQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJbxHbtm0uEGI1E0ChGlA1n7M0TNI6uIRSVPP+kd/zDDjNqeDf7awujV8nUn/1fLYEpK3T5jg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:210b:: with SMTP id u11mr1804464wml.133.1588146298325; Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from my-little-tumbleweed (200.143.13.109.rev.sfr.net. [109.13.143.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m1sm28179829wro.64.2020.04.29.00.44.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 29 Apr 2020 00:44:57 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin_Le_Gouguec?= To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#40951: Weird highlighting References: <87imhj6rl6.8.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 09:44:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87imhj6rl6.8.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Wed, 29 Apr 2020 08:52:37 +0800") Message-ID: <87tv12ohvr.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40951 Cc: 40951@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: > Why does the > taking...: > line get different color (bad) > but the > A couple...: > line not? (good). > [pipe to procmail:] > > From: Martin Ward > Subject: Re: How NASA does software testing and QA (Functionize) > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:05:17 +0800 (22 hours, 29 minutes, 33 seconds a= go) > > Crumbley does not say what level NASA's software development department h= as > currently reached, or what level they are aiming at nor what steps they a= re > taking to reach the desired level. Instead he says: > > No such bug when viewed in mutt. > > Gnus v5.13 I'd blame gnus-cite-attribution-suffix. Try setting it to a regexp that doesn't match "says:", then redisplay the article with 'g'. That sounds like a tricky bug to fix. On the one hand, I've seen many false positives (i.e. lines highlighted because someone writes e.g. "the manual/docstring/comment says:"), on the other hand I don't see how Gnus could distinguish between a verb added deliberately by the article author, and the same verb added automatically as part of the mail client's citation boilerplate. 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[109.13.143.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j17sm5839686wrb.46.2020.05.01.11.44.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 01 May 2020 11:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin_Le_Gouguec?= To: =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson Subject: Re: bug#40951: Weird highlighting References: <87imhj6rl6.8.fsf@jidanni.org> <87tv12ohvr.fsf@gmail.com> <87368m6v1a.8.fsf@jidanni.org> Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 20:44:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87368m6v1a.8.fsf@jidanni.org> (=?utf-8?B?IuepjeS4ueWwvA==?= Dan Jacobson"'s message of "Thu, 30 Apr 2020 01:50:25 +0800") Message-ID: <87r1w3o5qa.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40951 Cc: 40951@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson writes: >>>>>> "KLG" =3D=3D K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec write= s: > KLG> =E7=A9=8D=E4=B8=B9=E5=B0=BC Dan Jacobson write= s: > > KLG> on the other hand I don't see how Gnus could distinguish between a > KLG> verb added deliberately by the article author, and the same verb > KLG> added automatically as part of the mail client's citation > KLG> boilerplate. > > Hmmm, well don't boilerplates have some @ and/or < and > etc. in them? If we focus solely on Gnus's message.el, message-insert-citation-line can be relied on to use whatever was in the "From" header. From what I gather from RFC 5322, that should at least include an "@" sign. That only covers Gnus's "writes:" though. Spelunking in lisp/gnus for other verbs featured in gnus-cite-attribution-suffix, I get the impression that other MUAs tend to follow suit, but that might be wishful thinking. Assuming false negatives (failing to highlight) on articles from "non-conforming" MUAs are less annoying than false positives (highlighting part of a line that's not introducing a citation) on "conforming" ones, I'm still not sure where the right "fix" would belong. gnus-cite-attribution-suffix's job is to match just the final verb before the citation, so I think it's fine the way it is. There's probably a way to teach gnus-article-highlight-citation that it shouldn't apply gnus-cite-attribution-face to the whole line, but I'm not familiar enough with the code to see how to go about it. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 05 07:20:02 2020 Received: (at 40951) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2020 11:20:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50187 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HSj-0008OP-Vl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 07:20:02 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39832) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HSh-0008O2-Em for 40951@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 07:20:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hgChG5nO4NHQvgUsyDa8xrNPaC52Prj07EQnmfmK6zM=; b=MdV4J/rc/fUhZvQpRScl4GCUdz PCZkkPgqyenZ0eYo1ZuDBez+NvzQcFy7cd+KQels7n9Wmxv+nXP2FuZA+/s8wYqDSF25QG9J5ZR8J xJD/gWG/o1tQ/PR0W47M0HOM4I2JVaR6S3jruZiGCrkX/Fg8jIFwACO38Z3o1aqS7Zh8=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HSZ-000423-2D; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:19:53 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: =?utf-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Subject: Re: bug#40951: Weird highlighting References: <87imhj6rl6.8.fsf@jidanni.org> <87tv12ohvr.fsf@gmail.com> <87368m6v1a.8.fsf@jidanni.org> <87r1w3o5qa.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:19:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r1w3o5qa.fsf@gmail.com> (=?utf-8?Q?=22K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec"'s message of "Fri, 01 May 2020 20:44:13 +0200") Message-ID: <87lfit9w6i.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Kévin Le Gouguec writes: > That only covers Gnus's "writes:" though. Spelunking in lisp/gnus for > other verbs featured in gnus-cite-attribution-suffix, I get the > impression that other MUAs tend to follow suit, but that mig [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 40951 Cc: 40951@debbugs.gnu.org, =?utf-8?B?56mN5Li55bC8?= Dan Jacobson X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) K=C3=A9vin Le Gouguec writes: > That only covers Gnus's "writes:" though. Spelunking in lisp/gnus for > other verbs featured in gnus-cite-attribution-suffix, I get the > impression that other MUAs tend to follow suit, but that might be > wishful thinking. Yeah, the "says:" stuff can be anything, really.=20=20 > Assuming false negatives (failing to highlight) on articles from > "non-conforming" MUAs are less annoying than false positives > (highlighting part of a line that's not introducing a citation) on > "conforming" ones, I'm still not sure where the right "fix" would > belong. Both are pretty annoying, but I don't think there's realistically any way to fix this to be better than it is. Some AI analysis would be handy. :-) So I'm closing this bug report. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 05 07:20:05 2020 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2020 11:20:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50190 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HSn-0008Os-8S for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 07:20:05 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HSm-0008O8-H9 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 07:20:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hq292OUkNadxn3+rLin9yg3evcb3J2GPjTpyDRnLZ5o=; b=Cv3cXCopCenlrI4dwHIarVwpIj 3QBa9Ey5bvef19mr/ugFvMl6b9OaXzPB+ePsbPGbB2onwogWzKMRCloFnaGZxEvYkqbpCnpvlyerm vIt50WtOj/EGRv4Q6psUELAW3x/bD9CpYcWAUGnVLL4jX7elaHk6MmaGdT4GfcDTPrc8=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k3HSe-00042A-Pz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:19:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 13:19:55 +0200 Message-Id: <87k0yd9w6c.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #40951 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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