From unknown Mon Aug 18 14:21:19 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#4091 <4091@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#4091 <4091@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: No Japanese Katakana input with shift pressed in Japanese input mode (Kotoeri/Mac) Reply-To: bug#4091 <4091@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:21:19 +0000 retitle 4091 No Japanese Katakana input with shift pressed in Japanese inpu= t mode (Kotoeri/Mac) reassign 4091 emacs submitter 4091 Jean-Christophe Helary severity 4091 normal thanks From jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com Sat Aug 8 19:04:04 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Aug 2009 02:04:04 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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(pl834.nas982.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp [124.154.43.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c20sm15667204rvf.31.2009.08.08.19.03.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3238CDEA-6941-4445-A702-FCCC263E905E@gmail.com> From: Jean-Christophe Helary To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: No Japanese Katakana input with shift pressed in Japanese input mode (Kotoeri/Mac) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:03:52 +0900 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) I am using a Japanese input method (Kotoeri) that allows direct input of Katakana while holding the shift key. In Aquamacs 1.8 and 2.0 preview holding the shift key only produces capital alphabet letters, not katakana signs. Input without shift held correctly produces hiragana. Jean-Christophe Helary In GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i386-apple-darwin9.7.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0) of 2009-06-08 on scarlett.local - Aquamacs Distribution 1.8c Windowing system distributor `Apple Inc.', version 10.5.8 configured using `configure '--without-x' '--prefix=/usr/local' 'CFLAGS=-DMAC_OS_X_VERSION_MIN_REQUIRED=1040 -g -O9 -mtune=nocona - pipe -fomit-frame-pointer'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1 default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: HTML helper Minor modes in effect: savehist-mode: t smart-frame-positioning-mode: t aquamacs-autoface-mode: t global-visual-line-mode: t visual-line-mode: t recentf-mode: t encoded-kbd-mode: t osx-key-mode: t tabbar-mwheel-mode: t tabbar-mode: t show-paren-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t pc-selection-mode: t cua-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t utf-translate-cjk-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t smart-spacing-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: k a K A x r e p o r t e m Recent messages: Truncate long lines disabled Mark set Aquamacs is based on GNU Emacs, a part of the GNU/Linux system. It is Free Software: you can improve and redistribute it under the GNU General Public License, version 3 or later. Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc. (C) 2009 D. Reitter. No Warranty. Loading url-util...done SOFA - Design, Interfaces & Software.html has auto save data; consider M-x recover-this-file Loading html-helper-mode...done Truncate long lines disabled Mark set Auto-saving...done Loading emacsbug...done From mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp Sun Aug 9 01:08:38 2009 Received: (at 4091) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Aug 2009 08:08:39 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=4.0 tests=AWL,GMAIL,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, PUSSY autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp [133.82.132.2]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n7988b3l026812 for <4091@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 01:08:38 -0700 Received: from church.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (church [133.82.132.36]) by mathmail.math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906A62C40; Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:08:35 +0900 (JST) Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:08:35 +0900 Message-ID: From: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu To: Jean-Christophe Helary , 4091@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#4091: No Japanese Katakana input with shift pressed in Japanese input mode (Kotoeri/Mac) In-Reply-To: <3238CDEA-6941-4445-A702-FCCC263E905E@gmail.com> References: <3238CDEA-6941-4445-A702-FCCC263E905E@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.8 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Shij=F2?=) APEL/10.6 Emacs/22.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) Organization: Faculty of Science, Chiba University MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:03:52 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary said: > I am using a Japanese input method (Kotoeri) that allows direct > input of Katakana while holding the shift key. In Aquamacs 1.8 and > 2.0 preview holding the shift key only produces capital alphabet > letters, not katakana signs. The NS port (23.1) behaves as you describe, but the Carbon port (22.3) can correctly input Katakana characters with the shift key. I tested with US-keyboard with Hiragana-mode/Romaji-input. YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp From jean.christophe.helary@gmail.com Sun Aug 9 01:14:47 2009 Received: (at 4091) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 9 Aug 2009 08:14:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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(pl834.nas982.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp [124.154.43.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b39sm17349821rvf.13.2009.08.09.01.14.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:14:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: 4091@debbugs.gnu.org Message-Id: <7C59D892-2199-4E68-9552-5C2FCECEEFFC@gmail.com> From: Jean-Christophe Helary To: YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#4091: No Japanese Katakana input with shift pressed in Japanese input mode (Kotoeri/Mac) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:14:42 +0900 References: <3238CDEA-6941-4445-A702-FCCC263E905E@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) My mistake. In AE 1.8 Shift+kb in Kotoeri works indeed. How can I correct this bug report ? On Aug 9, 2009, at 5:08 PM, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009 11:03:52 +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary >>>>> > said: > >> I am using a Japanese input method (Kotoeri) that allows direct >> input of Katakana while holding the shift key. In Aquamacs 1.8 and >> 2.0 preview holding the shift key only produces capital alphabet >> letters, not katakana signs. > > The NS port (23.1) behaves as you describe, but the Carbon port (22.3) > can correctly input Katakana characters with the shift key. I tested > with US-keyboard with Hiragana-mode/Romaji-input. > > YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu > mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp Jean-Christophe Helary From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Sep 17 03:16:16 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Sep 2011 07:16:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R4p8J-0000vs-99 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 03:16:16 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R4p8D-0000v8-1Z for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 03:16:10 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R4p3S-0004Ee-UF for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:11:14 +0200 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 09:07:56 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #4091 X-MailScanner-ID: 1R4p3S-0004Ee-UF X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316848275.02306@zlHYmZL88vo6+pEcEetW5A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) reassign 4091 emacs,ns From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 10 10:58:25 2016 Received: (at 4091-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2016 14:58:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45267 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bMGBd-0007bb-FU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:58:25 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f47.google.com ([74.125.82.47]:36850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bMGBb-0007bN-KI for 4091-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 10:58:23 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f47.google.com with SMTP id f126so64864702wma.1 for <4091-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:58:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=E7bWVS0PXuTkh1/Ldw+JH2e2zBSU8NvYObS1KbRel8I=; b=E0rE1A4R0aZr4+wme0K8998GaZ/lvfBz9CCM1rqKfl5EAwJD3EsaifXWeomA4ablXL egaUA4636zLlx6ox1vOlp3cXEzINTcMk0+iW4IJNRySr1qhR7JqUpOInaqtwb15L45+D saWryqBPeorKIWDNn31pW4cKjV1Rz4MdJU1Hv/bWL85bT56Hs/PTETgUrhq1rYyB42QF WStex7bNGrg0RM0K8plp221bhHsTBnALNGDvM8DCVKGCz3or6N+PqDJcZNWNDmIHQ+u1 iiL+E+KSuaTRkxA+FqdRkNJV72+0EmBeakgYO9t41vOThMcPyO/yL/s7s9PePIjeQZco RLIg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=E7bWVS0PXuTkh1/Ldw+JH2e2zBSU8NvYObS1KbRel8I=; b=UMJNovzHwUZsUKxrpBQkvEoia7Vs1lEsAeLlFnzKvVQlzk/DMej5YCX2HC2mtrnjuO nPjmJ5ANNjMOBkzfPG3u4Cct1slyHQw/WWBES1MMUNAy/Fq7CCN5TWsUbcucmnbJjNsF dU2c4ALKzWrIUJ5vHjOt1YmeLZM2xj8BjSmaUcxuqEGejyFIjp0d0+GzMl6g5UbjomeO sYN9JGWufWbY3ZvkGLKEXe8CDPDjgzu3AGiVh5huocCw6pSa7Ex3HueXPpbJnlkj1j6A teJ2+aoU7jh/+BoOi552iTvd3ytWU1gZkoqdBQC1SPSQMNPjFh+YRaRbaJ0/xpc7EN8A sIaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJj8xsfkJJwpIjya0Db5bUXSZkB2V/1jqlLgWcUXjHJ1aexJRdUFRPkScCUKvEi7w== X-Received: by 10.28.14.75 with SMTP id 72mr7529206wmo.85.1468162697990; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from breton.holly.idiocy.org (ip6-2001-08b0-03f8-8129-5cc4-ba14-a0d0-bdac.holly.idiocy.org. [2001:8b0:3f8:8129:5cc4:ba14:a0d0:bdac]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i74sm9374786wmg.21.2016.07.10.07.58.17 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Jul 2016 07:58:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Third To: Jean-Christophe Helary Subject: Re: bug#4091: No Japanese Katakana input with shift pressed in Japanese input mode (Kotoeri/Mac) References: <3238CDEA-6941-4445-A702-FCCC263E905E@gmail.com> <7C59D892-2199-4E68-9552-5C2FCECEEFFC@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 15:58:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <7C59D892-2199-4E68-9552-5C2FCECEEFFC@gmail.com> (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Sun, 9 Aug 2009 17:14:42 +0900") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (darwin) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4091-done Cc: 4091-done@debbugs.gnu.org, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > My mistake. In AE 1.8 Shift+kb in Kotoeri works indeed. How can I > correct this bug report ? Hi, I believe you're saying this is not a problem any more? I'll close the bug report, but if you're still seeing this problem let us know and we can re-open it. -- Alan Third From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 10 12:50:15 2016 Received: (at 4091-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jul 2016 16:50:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45419 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bMHvr-0006nJ-Do for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:50:15 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.220.51]:34025) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bMGUB-0002sT-9C for 4091-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:17:36 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fi15so13444416pac.1 for <4091-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:17:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9pIIKc9MT7upIV3mP+d49XfotCz0i7P/yVa7ihuZYWE=; b=dv8qbFVsswynY8dS7C2/kQ22StQqBT4Rj0RyNKTMT8QkLccF7B4nFCAMsGHMNYDUi1 pleFvN55798wtDzjOObJn6j1qF627bRlAQufN8pxdmY1UNk5j9M3926JSnr5I/3oUyny BtieT9TMaTNeu3Ysbm6WEifW4tNAhxYmjmUBLp6GM4VCX5bqGfGsO9bT9pSP3rSvcjIY qYHusNJatCpZT9QKsFO+RDJ2V1x6D4BDCwJT5rXYKEWX3+N/nycNm8Zn2vSpOoT/rdt/ KLO/juVUA0Zn9iNdSYUHl7qH3mHk7fQxvcctalytW71v/xN4GTKcPu1RAoNTE1e9UTx3 AcmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9pIIKc9MT7upIV3mP+d49XfotCz0i7P/yVa7ihuZYWE=; b=i9Uc0wW0fOBcGHlMnPT0Cred1WrrJD9ex5p07Kx/4rA/3/Pg7WPbJEF+HlOAVU5hMq HPBBbc3fvi23maKlQ/TWt0eLKNkuHGpOmah3uUngf+XlwbXSVs4xR49f1+MJ3ATSMTGs 7yZcQ3JYmGogDTbTc/PAvCrQe35dtbqElfyUpb3BJBxu6yVJ30Dx918i+FL5Zh70uSkO CxgaRLKPDmbaLB0TE9Ehdxu1N7efwxjEdvoAFq53fAcJa2K34Lkd/aBS8653jqCVhkPm jsEMHMMXkYxVlpvHJCU0Uiaw9Z9V6p178yZ4tT7E7nMWEuJE7difuiQn+3kXelW+3mdA pP3g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLxNoZyzZYlXC4hG47eSeQWnJ1P9saHE/MUEz/o+g5jmaT4DSeMOHUUaNkMvtCBUA== X-Received: by 10.66.150.67 with SMTP id ug3mr27348782pab.41.1468163849387; Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.24.55] (pl249.nas984.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp. [124.154.42.249]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k76sm1474316pfg.53.2016.07.10.08.17.26 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: bug#4091: No Japanese Katakana input with shift pressed in Japanese input mode (Kotoeri/Mac) From: Jean-Christophe Helary In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 00:17:18 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3238CDEA-6941-4445-A702-FCCC263E905E@gmail.com> <7C59D892-2199-4E68-9552-5C2FCECEEFFC@gmail.com> To: Alan Third X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 4091-done X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 12:50:14 -0400 Cc: 4091-done@debbugs.gnu.org, YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Thank you ! Jean-Christophe=20 > 2016/07/10 23:58=E3=80=81Alan Third =E3=81=AE=E3=83=A1= =E3=83=BC=E3=83=AB=EF=BC=9A >=20 > Jean-Christophe Helary writes: >=20 >> My mistake. In AE 1.8 Shift+kb in Kotoeri works indeed. How can I >> correct this bug report ? >=20 > Hi, I believe you're saying this is not a problem any more? I'll close > the bug report, but if you're still seeing this problem let us know = and > we can re-open it. > --=20 > Alan Third From unknown Mon Aug 18 14:21:19 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2016 11:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator